Horror is dead.

[wufongtan.]

With no (or very very few)good horror movies released within past few years and with very very few good ones about to be released horror i'm sad to say is dead. It looks like i'll be going to the old section of the video store for my horror fix from now on.:(:( :eek: :( :(

[alkytrio666]

And this is new news to you? Horror's been dead for nearly twenty years.

[VampiricClown]

Indeed it has been dead for twenty years. I hate the new stuff, but I watch it anyway so I can write reviews on it so people will no longer watch it.

[crabapple]

New horror? New horror is for the most part a big Pootie! Except for, well, I don't know. There might be a few things, and I liked Below (the haunted submarine movie) a lot--really fun and scary movie.

[stubbornforgey]

so true..horror died along with all the good writers and directors..
not to mention the shitty actors..actresses.

[Despare]

Bah, there's still gems released every year. Personally I think there's just as many good horror movies released today but the fact that there are hundreds more crappy movies released by their side takes the shine off a little bit. In 2006 there were 805 movies released while in 87' we only saw the release of 201. With just over 600 more movies theres bound to be a LOT more crap especially with how far down the cost of making movies has come. Of course there's always the nostalgia facotr. How many times have you heard somebody say something like the toys, cartoons, tv shows, music, etc... was better in "their day"?

[stubbornforgey]

Bah, there's still gems released every year. Personally I think there's just as many good horror movies released today but the fact that there are hundreds more crappy movies released by their side takes the shine off a little bit. In 2006 there were 805 movies released while in 87' we only saw the release of 201. With just over 600 more movies theres bound to be a LOT more crap especially with how far down the cost of making movies has come. Of course there's always the nostalgia facotr. How many times have you heard somebody say something like the toys, cartoons, tv shows, music, etc... was better in "their day"?



thats true.
I think that for most avid horror fanatics out there..
the old kind of scare monger movies ruined us.
Admittedly..there are some pretty good stuff out there..
i suppose you just have to look or play the wait and see game
as to the next new releases.

[Dante'sInferno]

Horror is indeed dead,but its realy dead now.It has to be dumbed down for this audience.

[Roderick Usher]

Bullshit!

Horror lives and breathes as it always has...underneath the bed, in the closet, down the darkened alley and in the quiet fears we all hold dear.

The Descent, 28 Weeks Later, Grindhouse, Hatchet, Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon, All the Boys Love Mandy Lane, Hard Candy, The Host, Bug...

These are good films, some of them are great. Of course there's a ton of crap out there, but that's just because everyone is content-starved. Too many things made too fast simply to fill time, but good stuff is there and more of it is coming.

How many of you "horror fans" went to see Bug this weekend instead of Pirates of the Caribbean? You can bitch about it or you can help the situation by GOING TO SEE THE FILMS IN THE THEATER!

[bwind22]

Like Despare touched on, I think it has to do with the quantity of films coming out nowadays. There's gonna be probably 5-15 pretty good horror films in any given year. In the 80s, there might have been 10 good ones one year and 30-40 stinkers. Now, we still get about 10 good ones a year, but there's more like 200 stinkers out there with all the straight to video stuff.


There's still good horror being made, you just need to know where to look.

[crabapple]

No way! All bad--all bad--no way! Way!

Whoopah!

[swiss tony]

modern horror is generally poo but if you head to asia you'll find some of the finest movies anywhere. the problem is that people assume hollywood is the be all and end all and it is currently utterly atrocious, as far as horror is concerned. just shop around. watch irreversible, event horizon, ju on and 28 days later and tell me horror is dead. i rest my case

[VampiricClown]

Modern horror has been ruined for the simple fact that they have simply run out of ideas. You can only have so many boogeymen before they become "just another boogeyman" movie. You can only have so many psychological thrillers, slasher films, ghost films, vampires, zombies, etc. before it all becomes yesterdays news. How else do you explain all the remakes and sequels. Not to mention with the "straight-to-video" release being so easy for anyone to do. I mean, there are ads in Fangoria where they are looking for films to put on store shelves from independent movie makers. Back between the 20's and 80's, most of the films had to actually be something worth watching, or they were never noticed or put on any sort of video. Now it's simply no effort involved.

Long story short, large name movie makers have run out of ideas, and the little guys are making movies with no budget hoping to get there name out there so they can get a big name and still have no fresh ideas.

That's my two cents worth.

[Wensday13]

I dont think its fair to count it out yet. Still plenty of good movies being released. Some shitty ones to granted, still some good ones in there.
In this case, dont look at the weakest link, look at the stronger ones.

[jenna26]

Bullshit!

Horror lives and breathes as it always has...underneath the bed, in the closet, down the darkened alley and in the quiet fears we all hold dear.

The Descent, 28 Weeks Later, Grindhouse, Hatchet, Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon, All the Boys Love Mandy Lane, Hard Candy, The Host, Bug...

These are good films, some of them are great. Of course there's a ton of crap out there, but that's just because everyone is content-starved. Too many things made too fast simply to fill time, but good stuff is there and more of it is coming.

How many of you "horror fans" went to see Bug this weekend instead of Pirates of the Caribbean? You can bitch about it or you can help the situation by GOING TO SEE THE FILMS IN THE THEATER!

Ehh, I tend to agree for the most part, except that this horror fan, living in a small town, is not willing to waste gas money driving an hour to two hours to a place where they are actually showing, to pay increasing ticket prices to see it on a smaller screen, in a smaller seat surrounded by many irritating people that seem disinterested in actually watching the film....

I see MAYBE one-two films in the theater a year, and I usually regret it. I was planning to see Grindhouse, but not showing anywhere in the area. Also 28 Weeks Later. Not showing in the area. Yes, we are actually going to see Pirates of the Carribean, why? Because it is one of TWO films showing in a town that refuses to cater to our taste in film....:p

But no horror is not dead. Yes, I often lament my favorite time period in horror, and yes there is more crap than ever before, and even the films that are highly praised I often find to be highly overrated (*coughSawHightensioncough*:D ). But I do think there is just as much good out there; just not as much originality, or love going into it. There is so much out there now, as has already mentioned. Its still there though, you just have to look for it, and be willing to watch a lot of crap to do so, which I have always been fond of doing anyway. I would just rather do it in the comfort of my own home.....;)

[Posher778]

Bullshit!

Horror lives and breathes as it always has...underneath the bed, in the closet, down the darkened alley and in the quiet fears we all hold dear.

The Descent, 28 Weeks Later, Grindhouse, Hatchet, Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon, All the Boys Love Mandy Lane, Hard Candy, The Host, Bug...

These are good films, some of them are great. Of course there's a ton of crap out there, but that's just because everyone is content-starved. Too many things made too fast simply to fill time, but good stuff is there and more of it is coming.

How many of you "horror fans" went to see Bug this weekend instead of Pirates of the Caribbean? You can bitch about it or you can help the situation by GOING TO SEE THE FILMS IN THE THEATER!


I saw tentacles of the deep by the way. BAHAHA! You were so right. What kind of kraken was that? I have a scarier bath toy squid.

[illdojo]

Bullshit!

Horror lives and breathes as it always has...underneath the bed, in the closet, down the darkened alley and in the quiet fears we all hold dear.

Well said Rod. Why would someone make a thread saying Horror is dead on HDC???? Kind of a Oxymoron if you ask me. :rolleyes:
My Girl and I are going to see Bug on Sunday.

[novakru]

I agree with the Rodman.

[Despare]

Modern horror has been ruined for the simple fact that they have simply run out of ideas.


Books based off of old folklore and superstitions then being translated into books only to move onto radio shows and then onto film...

You present one idea in so many ways that even the most simple concept could be turned into more than one great movie. Look at how many great films can be made with the simple idea of the vampire, the zombie, or even just gangsters. Not only have there been many great films made but I suspect there will be more than a few good ones in the future using one of those simple ideas. What we really need is originality in presentation and skill in shaping something we all know into something that seems fresh. Maybe original thought hasn't existed for thousands of years... maybe every thought going through the heads of each and every person on the planet has already been thought. In fact, I'm sure if I dug deep enough I could probably find a paragraph similar to this one on another forum.


As for Bug... I can get my wife to go see Pirates with me but Bug was out of the question after she saw the commercial. Not only that but I'd probably see Pirates 3 first myself, I had already been entertained by the other two movies to no end and I couldn't see one thing that could prevent the third film from doing the same. Also, I like pirates... from Captain Hook to Sid Meier's to those of the space variety.

[crabapple]

Yeah, I guess, as a writer-director, I don't think it's possible to "run out of ideas." I think it is possible to fail to think in creative ways, and I think it's possible to fall into the habit of relying on trends and formulas and conventional structures. It's almost like a gravitational force that a person has to fight, and often, if a person is being paid really well as some of these people are, the tendency is to relax. I think a low-paid person has much more of a tendency to be creative because they're hungry and achieving something is a theme that is central to them.

[Phalanx]

Creep, Wrong turn, Slither, event horizon, Uzumaki, 28D/WL...all relatively recent...and those are just off the top of my head, I enjoyed them all.
Yes, horror has had it's "time" it seems...but then, that could well apply to pretty much all genres, no? Nothing REALLY gets considered all that groundbreaking.
The Host and the number 23 also look great.., and I've heard FEAST is the shit, too, so, it's not "dead".

You want more? Check out some horror comics, they've really come up in the last few years...it's not only films that encompass the entire genre...

[zer0]

i agree. if i see one more "horror" flick with bad writing, and even worse acting, just because the dumb girl will show her rack, i am going to scream.

[Phalanx]

I think you're talking about the entire 80's, most of the 70's...

[swiss tony]

they are just lazy. it costs the same to remake as it does to make and you save yourself the hastle of having to be creative. say what you like about hostel, at least it tried to be different. if you are sick of hollywood look into world cinema.

[stubbornforgey]

i just watched the grudge ..'meh'

[Shazbut]

I dont think its fair to count it out yet. Still plenty of good movies being released. Some shitty ones to granted, still some good ones in there.
In this case, dont look at the weakest link, look at the stronger ones.

And alot of people tend to only judge horror on gore content. How about those wonderful psychological horrors that actually make you think and then blow your mind with an unpredicted twist.

"Skeleton Key"
"The Others"
"Sixth Sense"

I know there are more, but cant think now!

And, having got into asian horror in the last couple of months, I am finding many of them dont use alot of gore, just leaving things to the imagination but written in such a psychologically twisting way - with camera angles and lingering, silent moments that just make you squirm.

[ferretchucker]

good horror is down to the individual's opinion. I unlike a few like h20, I was never much of an evil dead fan and I think jason X was a good film but just ruined by the fact it was jason, maybe if it were a new character with nothing to do with jason it would be better.

[crabapple]

good horror is down to the individual's opinion. I

I agree. And in my opinion, I think some of these people need to get slapped around a little!

*whoopah*

[Despare]

Real quick, on the subject of new ideas, take a look at The Departed. An original idea? No. A great movie anyway? Yep...

[Smackytherabbit]

Real quick, on the subject of new ideas, take a look at The Departed. An original idea? No. A great movie anyway? Yep...
wasent the departed a remake of a korean flick?

[ferretchucker]

sure there are no good ideas and the stories may not be a gripping or as scary as they were back then. The truth is, the films are usually scarier, but because it takes a lot more to scare people nowadays, they don't seem it. I think the film should be judged as a film, not just "some remake with a completely different plot2 or "Just a rip off"

[zer0]

wasent the departed a remake of a korean flick?

don't know for sure, but yeah, probably... i am figuring out that a lot of the films i think are 'original' are actually a remake of something from 50 years ago.

payback, scarface, blah blah blah- the list goes on and on

talk to an old person, they can really enlighten you

what a slogan!!

shady acres retirement homes- talk to an old person, they can really enlighten you.

[Phalanx]

Yeah, I hear that the departed is loosely based on the first in a 3 film series called "Infernal Affairs".
Have yet to see either.

A lot of good points here..the fact of the matter is EVERYTHING has been done to an extent...if you notice it more in terms of horror, that'd be a combination of you noticing your preferred genre moreso, and the FACT that horror has not ever met with as much public approval as many other genres...therefore there's ALWAYS been less of it out there...over all I'd say the ratio has remained largely the same.

Funny, the person who started this thread probably thought it'd make some kind've negative splash, and more than likely hates the fact he started a half decent conversation...

[Shadow]

As long as the fans stick by horror then it will always be there. Sure it may not be as good at times as it can be but its there. Horror fans need to be more supportive and as previously said, go to the cinema to see new horror releases. The more demand there is for horror the more horror there will be. However as was also said earlier the more films being made the more chance there is of a few bad films. I personally think there have been some quality horror films recently.

[zwoti]

wasent the departed a remake of a korean flick?

hong kong movie trilogy