Sex in Horror

[bloody_ribcut]

has any one wondered why most modern horror has sex ?

dont get me wrong, im down for nudity...but why is it the horror genre mostly?

[novadawn969]

Well, uh, maybe because that's how demoralized the world is today.
In the days of black & white films, they weren't allowed to say someone was pregnant... nowadays all we're taught is sex, drinking, and many other things that shouldn't even be thought of...
Even though they frequently are.
Just how the culture is now.

[Despare]

It's been proven... sex sells. As long as it can add to their final gross they'll add as much as they can. Some of it could also be writers misrepresenting the generation they're writing about because they’re ignorant. Other times it could just be Eli… errrr… the director, wishing he was making porn instead. I don’t think there’s one “right” answer, Nova’s point was valid as well. It all depends on the movie I think.

[PhilnEdee]

No doubt, but nothing new...60's 70's def 80's had some near porn sex in the horror "flicks".

[Despare]

No doubt, but nothing new...60's 70's def 80's had some near porn sex in the horror "flicks".

Some movies, like the great revenge flick Thriller: They Call Her One Eye, actually had "porn sex" in it. Personally I didn't think it added anything to the overall experience of the film and prefer the edited version which is only missing the hardcore sex.

[Roderick Usher]

the two most primal urges

1. fear

2. lust

Sex has ALWAYS been linked to horror, usually using fear of sex and sexuality as a primary theme. From Dracula to Shivers to Hostel, it is the pursuit of free sex that leads to destruction.

I love it. Two great tastes that taste great together.

[Posher778]

I think it's unnecessary, but sometimes it's ok.

[bloodrayne]

I HATE sex in my horror movies...Time wasted watching people screw (which anyone can do at any time), could be spent seeing some good gore, or at least something a little scary... I just think it's an unnecessary waste of time...If I wanna watch people have sex, I'll watch a porno (personally, I'd rather HAVE sex than watch someone else have sex)...But, I wanna see HORROR when I watch HORROR

[Despare]

Well...I'M not a prude NOR a virgin...and I HATE sex in my horror movies...Time wasted watching people screw (which anyone can do at any time), could be spent seeing some good gore, or at least something a little scary... I just think it's an unneccesary waste of time...If I wanna watch people have sex, I'll watch a porno (personally, I'd rather HAVE sex than watch someone else have sex)...But, I wanna see HORROR when I watch HORROR

You can't deny that there are some films where it's a good thing though. I like it better when it's used to set up a great scene and less when it's used to add a sense of immorality to characters who die so the audience doesn't "feel as bad".

[_____V_____]

It gets tiring after awhile...every 2nd teen slasher has it, and so does every 3rd horror movie. I am with BR, I d rather watch an all out horror movie than sequences of sex before characters get butchered. People have grown out of it, since the 70s and 80s had TONS of movies with the same stuff...especially us people who have seen so MANY of em...:rolleyes:

One or two short scenes are tolerable, but when the movie is centered more on nudity and sex and less on horror, it goes down in my book.



And xperiment, I suggest you cut down on the tonalities. Just because you are drunk doesnt mean you have to start stuff here, cuz you risk getting the ban-hammer from the mods.

Dont believe me...see this thread for details

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29495

[zwoti]

it depends on why it's there, plot device or titillation

[Despare]

It seems like a lot of companies now realize they make more from a PG-13 horror film so we get that with a lot of "almost sex scenes" so the companies can just pile up the money. Would the Wicker Man remake have made more money if it was R and included the nude rituals?

[Posher778]

it depends on why it's there, plot device or titillation

Yes, like what Despare said. If it has to do with the plot or anything but what the next thing I say it, it's fine, but, if it's for the sake of putting boobs and ass on the screen to attract horny teens... lame.

[bloodrayne]

Would the Wicker Man remake have made more money if it was R and included the nude rituals?Wicker Man is a GREAT example...The first one was FILLED with nudity and sexuality...It was boring and lame, I hated it (couldn't even finish watching it...fell asleep)...But, the remake was a really good movie...I enjoyed it

V makes a good point...The sex stuff is old and tired, it's EVERYWHERE...I wanna see something new...Some good innovative kills would be much better

[_____V_____]

I wanna see something new...Some good innovative kills would be much better


Thats the main reason why the Saw series were so hugely successful.

But with Hostel it came back to the same stuff. Sure, there were some great scenes of torture and kills, but the oozfest of sex and parties brought it down.

[Posher778]

Wicker Man is a GREAT example...The first one was FILLED with nudity and sexuality...It was boring and lame, I hated it (couldn't even finish watching it...fell asleep)...But, the remake was a really good movie...I enjoyed it



I couldn't stand it either. There wasn't a single element of horror I could find in the entire film, until the last 5 minutes, it was, just, lame.

[Despare]

I liked it because it was surreal and it was so unlike anything else...

I wouldn't put it in my top 10 but I did like the original.

[_____V_____]

Movies like the Cube series wouldnt be so critically acclaimed either. There's a note for filmmakers out there as to what the audiences what to see right now.

Something new. Not the same rehashes anymore. Get something new in your movies, and you are bound to get the audiences.

Grindhouse, anyone?

[_____V_____]

Ok, I think someone is treading the fine line again...:rolleyes:

[zwoti]

Ok, I think someone is treading the fine line again...:rolleyes:

they sure are....




wicker man (original) is a CLASSIC film

:D

[Posher778]

they sure are....




wicker man (original) is a CLASSIC film

:D

Documentary:cool:

[_____V_____]

I wouldnt call the original boring exactly...sure it had its fill of sex and nudity, but it was a genuinely atmospheric movie. The surrealness was gripping, and thats what the remake lacked.

Plus, Nicholas Cage disappointed. I would much rather see a lesser fancied actor in that role, who could have done better.

Cage...I dont know...that role didnt fit him. Or rather his screen persona, for that matter.

[Posher778]

I wouldnt call the original boring exactly...sure it had its fill of sex and nudity, but it was a genuinely atmospheric movie. The surrealness was gripping, and thats what the remake lacked.

Plus, Nicholas Cage disappointed. I would much rather see a lesser fancied actor in that role, who could have done better.

Cage...I dont know...that role didnt fit him. Or rather his screen persona, for that matter.

Cage fits in with monotone and boring...



He should have been in the original!

[_____V_____]

No way...then both Wicker Mans would have been forgettable flicks...:rolleyes:

[Posher778]

No way...then both Wicker Mans would have been forgettable flicks...:rolleyes:

I'm not bothering with the remake, so they already are.

[bleeding_angelgirl]

In the last couple of horror movies I've watched that are new recently, there was no sex in it, maybe there diciding that is unnessecary unless it has to do with the plote. Did i spell unnessecary right?

[stubbornforgey]

Yeah ..em with B.R.
I hate the sex scenes in horror..
I mean..especially since it always depicts teenagers..
but heres one factor that always pisses me off about any sex scenes in any movies..
Why the hell don;t they ever shower after the scene..?
can you you say ewwwwwwww poo!!

[trx1]

If u want Sex in horror/gore, just get DEAD ALIVE. :p

[ferretchucker]

sex scenes work in horror because a lot of people like to see the two people get killed in some stupid sex related way. Like, the man will get up cause he heard a noise. He wont come back. Suddenly, the knife goes into the womans a-hole slightly and she's like "Ooooh, that's how it's gonna-" then it goes all the way in. [Yes, i saw this on a film]

[Papillon Noir]

In the last couple of horror movies I've watched that are new recently, there was no sex in it, maybe there diciding that is unnessecary unless it has to do with the plote. Did i spell unnessecary right?

there-->they're
diciding-->deciding
unnessecary-->unnecessary
plote-->plot
;)

I think sex in horror movies completely has to do with the tone and plot of the film. If it's an exploitation film--definitely! Ghost movie, maybe not so much.

That whole "only the virgin survives" and the "if you do drugs and have sex you will get gutted" themes that were really popular in the 80's, stems from the old Production Code (movies before 1934 were actually pretty racy). The MPAA was still new at trying to get their ratings right during the 80's, as the PG-13 rating didn't even come out until 1984.

[ferretchucker]

that's why, after you're in that old abandoned warehouse, your friends have gone missing and there are noises everywhere YOU DON'T GET INTO BED WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED AND NOT LOOKING AT THE DOOR TO THE ROOM YOUR IN!"

[Demonique]

I believe that sex and horror have been linked not only from the late '80's but much longer ago than that. This pairing can be seen throughout our culture back as far as the middle ages and Chaucer's Cantebury Tales. In that, he write about the 7 deadly sins (mostly about lust) and the people who have sex are the ones who get killed or punished in the most interesting, painful ways. Our tales about vampires are only a thinly veiled representation of sexual congress and look what happens to them. Sex and deadly punishment has been linked in our culture for a very long time. It lately (since the '80's) seems to be more specifically represented in horror movies but I think it always has and will always be there.

[Doc Faustus]

I've always felt that the 80s slasher sex kills attitude had something to do with figures like Jason being subconscious embodiments of AIDS. He's faceless, unstoppable and he kills people for promiscuity. It also has to do with horror movies being moral fiction. Horror has always been moral fiction. It starts even before Ovid's Metamorphoses and continues through the Middle Ages and Renaissance. Dante and Ovid are real progenitors of horror. Look at Ovid's King Lycaon, one of the first literary werewolves, or Dante standing before a truly ghastly Satan. One of the reasons I love horror is because it tells you more about the human condition and how to live your life than almost any other writings, because it's the legacy of Dante, Ovid and others like them. So, sex kills because after the sexual revolution there's a lot of moral ambiguity, the occasional lack of intimacy and the fear of disease. Sleeping with the wrong person can damage people's feelings, can ruin one's life or can outright make you sick. Nobody's ever killed in a horror movie for being in a responsible loving relationship, but often for misguided, ill advised sex, which society usually says goes on between teenagers. I'd like to see more corporate drones castrated for "working late" instead of spending time with their three children myself. I think that's just as harmful as teenage sex. With the dissolution of intimacy, sex becomes something different, often something scary, risky or ill-advised. Our society still isn't punishing the right behaviors, however.