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chaibill
04-11-2007, 06:34 PM
when i ask people about HOSTEL they either like it or hate it...Why is this? what did you think of it?....one kid said today he liked the story but thought it could of been told better

I thought it was a good film the acting was a little inexpirienced but it usally is in horror movies..i did like the scene with the famous japanese director Takashi Miike when he ask him "how the museum is" and he replies "you could spend a lot of money in there"

and that character actor forget his name but he asks the star how he should kill his person ---he was really into it---- nice job

and the ending was cool too it had alot of good scenes that i think alot of people won't forget even if you did't like it

did it rip off any previous films is that why people don't like it?

bloodrayne
04-11-2007, 06:40 PM
Well, I loved the 25 minute Horror movie...I hated the 45 minute soft-core porno

chaibill
04-11-2007, 06:47 PM
really you think it was too much there wasn't that much sex in it was there

Posher778
04-11-2007, 07:08 PM
That was a horror movie? Oh... that explains why it was cheaper than the rest of the pron films at the hotel......

alkytrio666
04-11-2007, 07:23 PM
I'll give you a straight-up answer:

It was a cheap gimmick.

I felt insulted after watching it, but not for the same reasons mothers were angry and censors were flaring. I felt insulted because I had been suckered into watching a big budget horror movie with a no budget idea; I had been exposed to characters I immediatey didn't like that I was supposed to give a damn about; I, being a teenager, was given a stereotypical "teen" movie. I felt as though the film was made by a 60 year old, overly-horny man who was given several million dollars and instructions to make a horror movie targeted at teenagers that was "hip" by today's standards.

I hate Hostel because it's Euro Trip with some uncreative violence.

Riff
04-11-2007, 07:33 PM
I'll give you a straight-up answer:

It was a cheap gimmick.

I felt insulted after watching it, but not for the same reasons mothers were angry and censors were flaring. I felt insulted because I had been suckered into watching a big budget horror movie with a no budget idea; I had been exposed to characters I immediatey didn't like that I was supposed to give a damn about; I, being a teenager, was given a stereotypical "teen" movie. I felt as though the film was made by a 60 year old, overly-horny man who was given several million dollars and instructions to make a horror movie targeted at teenagers that was "hip" by today's standards.

I hate Hostel because it's Euro Trip with some uncreative violence.


Sadly, I think Euro trip had a better plot...

I've got to agree. This was a mixture of softcore porn and gore. That's it. There was little to no attempt at attaching a story to it. I have no problem with either softcore porn or gore, but to build a movie up as one of the most disturbing films ever made and then hand us this is insulting. If gore bothers you, it might be a little disturbing, but even that wasn't done so well it stands out. I've seen scarier film school projects than this.

chaibill
04-11-2007, 07:47 PM
for some one to even watch eurotrip is silly you can tell its garbage from the tv comercials....

what did you think of cabin fever

Riff
04-11-2007, 07:55 PM
for some one to even watch eurotrip is silly you can tell its garbage from the tv comercials....

Exactly my point, you got what was advertised...


And I actually got a kick out of Cabin Fever, but I view it as a dark comedy.

Roderick Usher
04-11-2007, 08:23 PM
I liked Hostel. Good times. The indictment of Ugly Americanism and the way it embraced both the sex and the gore that characterizes this sort of exploitation made this one a fine time.

Nothing brilliant, but better than plenty others.

chaibill
04-11-2007, 08:29 PM
it was better than house of wax, desperation, touristas and fear dot com.

roshiq
04-11-2007, 11:43 PM
Well, I loved the 25 minute Horror movie...I hated the 45 minute soft-core porno
totally agree.

it was better than house of wax, desperation, touristas and fear dot com.

Opposite!
These films are better than Hostel.

swiss tony
04-12-2007, 12:41 AM
i liked it. it was what it was, tits and gore. what sort of male horror fan would i be if i didn't like that formula. i do think it was a victim of its own hype. people felt cheated. i thought it was just another mindless, shallow, fun holywood style horror. stick with takashi miike if you want substance and gore. say what you like about it, it was entertaining.

Shazbut
04-12-2007, 01:07 AM
I loved the film - except for the pathetic *hanging out eye* scene - the makeup could have looked a little more realistic for me. Generally, the storyline that customers pay to torture people to death is perfect horror - as we are crossing the boundaries on what is perceived as acceptable and normal behaviour.

Like the atmosphere of the film and the general build up to the horror.

Brilliant :D

swiss tony
04-12-2007, 01:20 AM
the eye scene was the best bit. i think it was meant to look slightly fake, along with most of the rest of it, as an homage to the old 70's flicks it was a tribute to.

slayer666
04-12-2007, 02:59 AM
I thought Hostel was awful. Why? The characters were impossible to care about. When one doesn't care about the characters, the film quickly becomes boring. With nothing to draw the viewer in, there is no emotional attachment. I spent the first 45 minutes wondering if I received the wrong disc from Netflix. When the torture started, I thought that it might at least be somewhat interesting. It wasn't. I did not care whether the characters lived or died. All in all, it reminded me of watching a bad football game where one doesn't care who wins.

CryptKeeper13
04-12-2007, 04:40 AM
Well, I loved the 25 minute Horror movie...I hated the 45 minute soft-core porno

Took the words out of my mouth.

PR3SSUR3
04-12-2007, 05:08 AM
Great film, one of the best of the 'torture porn' (ag!) nu-wave.

It didn't go where you expected it to, and offered little reason or redemption to the gory violence.

I also had a problem with the badly constructed 'eye' scene, and the danger with its possible explanation - that it was 'meant to look amaturish' - is that many of the new 'splat pack' directors risk alienating their audience through self-indulgence.

While it might be clever to explain to the girlfriend that the likes of the Grindhouse 'missing reel' is retro and 'cool', too much hip and 'nods' to previous stylisation risks horror tumbling back into the knowingness and self-parody of 90s post-modernist boredom.

paws the great
04-12-2007, 05:46 AM
I loved "Hostel,"and I can't wait for part two!

Demonique
04-12-2007, 06:29 AM
I have to say I liked Hostel. Yes there was porn but I feel it was there for a reason. The sex and prostitutes acted as foreshadowing for the end of the movie. One character Josh? is complaining outside the whorehouse that it is a little sick to be able to pay to go into a room and do anything you want to someone. Which is eventually what someone does to him. The characters are lured to the hostel by promises that the girls there will let them have all the sex they want. Mr. Creepy on the train says that when you go there you can pay to do anything. He is speaking of his reason for the trip rather than theirs but they are excited and only realize this later. The porn goes a bit far perhaps but I think it is designed to show that the main characters wanted to do as the 'bad guys' did just not in such an extreme way. It makes the main characters a little less sympathetic and suggests in the back of your mind that some of what they got was little different that what they wanted to do to the women. It's only my opinion but I think it is important to the storyline.

Doc Faustus
04-12-2007, 06:44 AM
Didn't catch and don't feel inclined to see Hostel, but Roth looks like he's going to be doing good things. Between Cabin Fever and producing 2001 Maniacs, he's shown a sharp eye for the genre. His trailer in Grindhouse is also very good. I think he benefitted from hanging out with John Landis, and with the kind of smirking genre insight he shares with Landis, Tarantino and their ilk, I think he could start doing some really good stuff, so long as he ignores the horror status quo.

_____V_____
04-12-2007, 07:33 AM
I dont see why they dont like it. I found it a decent watch.

Not enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination but yeah, its better than some of the other street trash Hollywood has been peddling lately.

If someone comes to me and says he loves Uwe Boll's movies or the mindless remakes, but hated Hostel, then for me that guy is seriously whacked in the head.

Papillon Noir
04-12-2007, 07:44 AM
I hated this movie and it really lowered my opinion of Roth, whom I was impressed by with Cabin Fever. This movie wasn't as nearly gory or scary as they advertised it to be. Maybe I've been desensitized over the years, but it was really lame.

The characters were completely unlikeable. Having the characters unlikeable is probably the easiest way to lose your audience. The plot was boring and just blah. As for the soft-core porn aspect, it was so forgetable to me that I don't even remember what they showed or didn't show.

Besides, this movie completely ripped off Troma's "Blood Sucking Freaks" (aka the Incredible Torture Show). It's practically the same movie except that it has actually has gore and nudity for 90mins and it's set in a theatre instead of a hostel. It has some humor in it, but it's pretty twisted and all in all a gruesome and relentless movie. I would check this movie out if you thought Hostel was tame.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077247/

_____V_____
04-12-2007, 07:53 AM
The first part of the movie did it in, actually.

***POSSIBLE SPOILER***

If they didnt concentrate so much on the sex, drugs and partying and tried to make the characters more believable, I think this could have been a more enjoyable movie.

Sadly that was totally overlooked and by the time the tortures started, the audiences had de-linked themselves from the characters and it went nowhere. The second half is pretty enjoyable actually.

If only the first part wasnt so fucked up, it would have been a helluva movie.

beckylouise2904
04-12-2007, 08:00 AM
Personally I was really looking forwards to "Hostel" when I heard about it and I saw the trailer and thought it looked awesome.

But after watching the film I was so disappointed - it could have been done so much better and, for some reason I was a little bit sickened by the idea of it all. I'm not sure why, it wasn't the gore or the torure as I have seen much worse. And I think tits and a bit of gore go well in a slasher-type horror film, but the way Roth did it really didn't work for me. Sometimes it nice to watch a "tongue in cheek" kind of horror but this was awful.

It has put me off a bit of his other films as I've not seen "Cabin Fever" and am likely not to after such a disappointing reaction to "Hostel".

:cool:

chaibill
04-12-2007, 09:48 AM
fear dot com is not better it is shit ---a cop doesn't know there are bugs in his bed get real
and house of wax remake was shit too i explained in this thread
and Hostel i don't even remember the "porn" parts i remember the parts with the gore and trying to escape

Kane_Hodder
04-12-2007, 08:56 PM
I didnt hate Hostel, but I didnt like it too much either. The film loses its way more than once and thats what makes it a one-watch film. I suppose they wanted doses of reality in it, but the surrealism took the film nowhere else but down.

beckylouise2904
04-13-2007, 03:35 AM
and Hostel i don't even remember the "porn" parts i remember the parts with the gore and trying to escape


How the hell do you not remember the "porn" parts - did you black out for the first hour of the film then and wake up near the end??????!!!! :confused:

novakru
04-13-2007, 05:07 AM
Since I didn't see the movie and have no inclination to ever see it , I feel I am in a perfect position to give my expert and overblown opinion on the subject.
Phhhtttthhh.
And that's how I see it and most things in general :cool:

PR3SSUR3
04-13-2007, 05:51 AM
Besides, this movie completely ripped off Troma's "Blood Sucking Freaks" (aka the Incredible Torture Show). It's practically the same movie except that it has actually has gore and nudity for 90mins and it's set in a theatre instead of a hostel. It has some humor in it, but it's pretty twisted and all in all a gruesome and relentless movie. I would check this movie out if you thought Hostel was tame

I think that's a lot of an exaggeration.

chaibill
04-14-2007, 01:27 PM
How the hell do you not remember the "porn" parts - did you black out for the first hour of the film then and wake up near the end??????!!!! :confused:

i remember a treesome in the begining and i think a girl with a whip then the girls in the hostel but it wasn't graphic porn is a lot more than some tit shots

beckylouise2904
04-14-2007, 01:47 PM
i remember a treesome in the begining and i think a girl with a whip then the girls in the hostel but it wasn't graphic porn is a lot more than some tit shots

Either way, whether its softcore or hardcore, the fact that it was in there was a bit pointless, didn't think it really suited the style of film. As someone has already stated the horror parts were entertaining but could have been developed more rather than just add in pointless tit/sex scenes ;)

alkytrio666
04-14-2007, 02:18 PM
It can't make up its mind whether it wants to be a porno or a gross-out flick, and therefore fails at both.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Save yourself some trouble, and rent Cannibal Holocaust and Skinny Girls Ride That Fat Cock or something, it'd be much more fitting.

Or, settle for Hollywood bubblegum horror.

crazy raplh
04-15-2007, 06:52 AM
wow another thread about Hostel

PR3SSUR3
04-15-2007, 07:11 AM
There seems to be a preoccupation with the need to 'categorise' horror movies (or movies in general) so the viewer is armed with info as to what they should 'be like' and therefore what to expect - porn, gross-out, torture etc. etc.

How mind-numbing!

Watch a film for what it is and where it goes, and surely the experience is far more rewarding - and far less likely to push the wrong mental buttons in your heads when things almost seem like Freddy Krueger, then go a bit Blair Witch via The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

:cool:

Auditioned
04-16-2007, 06:15 PM
There seems to be a preoccupation with the need to 'categorise' horror movies (or movies in general) so the viewer is armed with info as to what they should 'be like' and therefore what to expect - porn, gross-out, torture etc. etc.

How mind-numbing!

Watch a film for what it is and where it goes, and surely the experience is far more rewarding - and far less likely to push the wrong mental buttons in your heads when things almost seem like Freddy Krueger, then go a bit Blair Witch via The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

:cool:

Couldn't have said it better myself.

swiss tony
04-17-2007, 12:54 AM
Watch a film for what it is and where it goes, and surely the experience is far more rewarding - and far less likely to push the wrong mental buttons in your heads when things almost seem like Freddy Krueger, then go a bit Blair Witch via The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.

:cool:

what a great idea for a movie. a wild west treasure hunt slasher flick done documentary style. :D