is this guy a hack or a genius?lucio fulci

[swiss tony]

i notice this guy passed away in mysterious circumstances and it got me thinking. is he highly rated and still talked about because of this and the controversy of his movies ie, they were anti church and political, not to mention blood soaked. i watched the house by the cemetery a few years ago and liked it. i was also bought the zombie trilogy as a gift and want to work out where to prioritise these movies as i have a mountain of unwatched dvd's. also, i distinctly remember buying city of the living dead at the same time as house by the cemetery and can't find it anywhere. i don't suppose any of you know where it is?

[Angra]

i notice this guy passed away in mysterious circumstances and it got me thinking. is he highly rated and still talked about because of this and the controversy of his movies ie, they were anti church and political, not to mention blood soaked. i watched the house by the cemetery a few years ago and liked it. i was also bought the zombie trilogy as a gift and want to work out where to prioritise these movies as i have a mountain of unwatched dvd's. also, i distinctly remember buying city of the living dead at the same time as house by the cemetery and can't find it anywhere. i don't suppose any of you know where it is?



Isn't it also called "Zombie 2"?

[swiss tony]

the movie zombie is called zombie flesh eaters in the u.k. the city of the living dead, i think, is a totally different movie.

[Angra]

the movie zombie is called zombie flesh eaters in the u.k. the city of the living dead, i think, is a totally different movie.


Oh yes, i see that now.


Try seaching for "The gates of hell" then.

[The STE]

Genius with hack tendencies

[Angra]

I would call him a good B-horror movie director.

Liked what i've seen so far, except for "House by the cemetary".

Didn't LOVE any of them though.

[swiss tony]

i have it man sorry :rolleyes:

let me know if its any good,lol. i'm being serious though, this dvd just evaporated. i hate it when that happens. maybe its for the best.

[mikeymassacre]

The man is a legend, no one does it better!

[bloodrayne]

i notice this guy passed away in mysterious circumstances and it got me thinking.So, do you think about Ambrose Bierce, too then? :p



i distinctly remember buying city of the living dead at the same time as house by the cemetery and can't find it anywhere. i don't suppose any of you know where it is?Well, I have both of those but MY copy of City Of The Living Dead is called Gates Of Hell, so they probably aren't the ones you lost :D


OH...That reminds me...I still have to get Gates Of Hell 2...*heads to eBay*...Thanks!

[Despare]

*AHEM*

Maggot Storm

[swiss tony]

So, do you think about Ambrose Bierce, too then? :p



Well, I have both of those but MY copy of City Of The Living Dead is called Gates Of Hell, so they probably aren't the ones you lost :D


OH...That reminds me...I still have to get Gates Of Hell 2...*heads to eBay*...Thanks!

sorry, not familiar with his work. do you think he's over rated? some of his one liners seem fairly witty. kinda reminds me of my fellow countryman oscar wilde. 'one should never trust a woman who tells one her age. a woman who would tell one that, would tell one anything' what age are you anyway BR?lol.
i'll have another look for that dvd. if i can't find it i'll try buying it using both titles. thanks!

[bloodrayne]

sorry, not familiar with his work.Not even 'An Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge'?...That's the one MOST people are familiar with...Ambrose Bierce also disappeared under mysterious circumstances...He supposedly hooked up with Pancho Villa's bunch, or that was what he wanted people to believe...Then he was never heard of or from again

kinda reminds me of my fellow countryman oscar wilde. 'one should never trust a woman who tells one her age. a woman who would tell one that, would tell one anything' what age are you anyway BR?!I'm 38...and yes, I WILL tell anyone anything...:p

i'll have another look for that dvd. if i can't find it i'll try buying it using both titles.
I hope you find it...*psst...eBay*

[bwind22]

I know I'm in the minority on this (especially here), but I think Lucio Fulci is one of the most over-rated film makers I've come across (with the exception of David Lynch.) I've only seen Zombie & The Gates of Hell (aka City of the Living Dead) but I thought both of them were about 87 minutes boring pieces of shit, 3 minutes inventive gore. 3 minutes of inventive gore isn't enough to make up for 87 minutes of shit though in my eyes.

[stubbornforgey]

I know I'm in the minority on this (especially here), but I think Lucio Fulci is one of the most over-rated film makers I've come across (with the exception of David Lynch.) I've only seen Zombie & The Gates of Hell (aka City of the Living Dead) but I thought both of them were about 87 minutes boring pieces of shit, 3 minutes inventive gore. 3 minutes of inventive gore isn't enough to make up for 87 minutes of shit though in my eyes.


probably you and I both..

80 minutes of yawn material.

I avoid any of thier movies

[swiss tony]

i'm not a huge fan. i think he showed flashes of quality, particularly in house by the cemetery and zombie, but it seems a lot of the rest of his stuff is very hit and miss. what is it about dying that boosts your profile, usually sportsmen and artists?

[PR3SSUR3]

I think the legend of directors like Lucio Fulci often leads to a sense of anti climax - that is to say, you hear so much talk of horror expertise but finally watching his movies just doesn't seem to satisfy many people.

I think it's better to narrow down such dubious auteurs to their specialities - with Fulci, there is the grime. Maggotty flesh, lunging rotting zombies and skin-puncturing stab wounds (usually delivered to hysterically screaming women... sorry girls) have never been more devastatingly manifested than through his more extreme films.

If you want strict coherency, scares or high art, look elsewhere.

[yourlastmistake]

I think the legend of directors like Lucio Fulci often leads to a sense of anti climax - that is to say, you hear so much talk of horror expertise but finally watching his movies just doesn't seem to satisfy many people.

I think it's better to narrow down such dubious auteurs to their specialities - with Fulci, there is the grime. Maggotty flesh, lunging rotting zombies and skin-puncturing stab wounds (usually delivered to hysterically screaming women... sorry girls) have never been more devastatingly manifested than through his more extreme films.

If you want strict coherency, scares or high art, look elsewhere.


You gotta love this guy.

[Scare-ah]

He's definitely one of the Italian horror masters...but his work isn't for everyone.

[The Mothman]

Zombie: Awesome. one of my all time favs.
City Of The Living Dead: Pretty good. nice score and creepy atmosphere.
House By The Cemetery: a decent watch.
The Beyond: expected much more...was disapointed.
The New York Ripper: weak as fuck

[chaibill]

I know I'm in the minority on this (especially here), but I think Lucio Fulci is one of the most over-rated film makers I've come across (with the exception of David Lynch.) I've only seen Zombie & The Gates of Hell (aka City of the Living Dead) but I thought both of them were about 87 minutes boring pieces of shit, 3 minutes inventive gore. 3 minutes of inventive gore isn't enough to make up for 87 minutes of shit though in my eyes.

WHAT DID DAVID LYNCH DO?

[The Mothman]

WHAT DID DAVID LYNCH DO?

redefine surrealism.

[_____V_____]

You gotta love him or hate him. If you love gore in your movies, love him. If you want fast-paced, creepy, bumpity-bump horror, then Fulci isnt your cup of tea. It all depends on one's tastes in horror I guess.

I still say that Fulci is a legend, for The House of the Cemetery and Zombie alone. The rest was decent or average material, but it does not deter from the fact stated above.

[PR3SSUR3]

For a moment I thought someone declared The New York Ripper to be 'weak as fuck' when clearly it's one of the most brutal and misogynist slasher films ever made, not requiring a police escort out of the UK for nothing.

:cool:

[The STE]

I like violence (Ichi the Killer, Dawn of the Dead), incoherency (Phantom of Liberty, Following), gore (Suicide Circle, Eaten Alive), and all that jibberjabber, but Fulci's only made one movie I like, Zombi, and even that's not as good as I remember it being. I still say that, within the horror community, The Beyond is one of the most overrated piece of shit movies I've ever seen.

[PR3SSUR3]

I didn't like The Beyond when I fist saw it (albeit in its cut form) either - and I remember why: it seemed to be badly acted, dubbed, put together, and most damagingly didn't appeal to my sense of teenage cool at the time.

Of course it could just simply be a bad film to some and always remain that way, but assessing it now (based on last viewing about 5 years ago) the almost subversive, sheer anti-cinema of The Beyond (and 80's Italian horror in general) shines on through to command respect. Although the scene is changing now with so-called 'torture-porn' (awful tag!), this is probably due to the damaging self-referential and anti-hero glut of 'safe' horror in the 1990s, when many of us were forced to look outside of Hollywood and the USA in search of more exploitative, less predictable fun.

[swiss tony]

perhaps holywoods drive to bring worldcinema remakes to our screens at every corner is a response to the exodus of pure horror fans to european and asian movie markets. either that, or they've run out of ways to make the same mindless gory shite and are just importing others ideas that have imagination and substance. maybe pans labyrinth is just another step along the road to subtitled originals being part of the mainstream; fingers crossed!

[bwind22]

WHAT DID DAVID LYNCH DO?



Eraserhead & Lost Highway. Fuck David Lynch.

These are 2 movies that I absolutely HATED and there really are not very many other movies I can say that about. A movie that is just weird for the sake of being weird with no purpose or resolution to the plot that wasn't ever really coherent to begin with is a waste of my fuckin' time. I might as well be watching a retarded kid try to hula hoop for 120 minutes.

[PR3SSUR3]

Lost Highway is another one of my favourites, and coincidentally, like The Beyond and Haute Tension, also rubs many people up the wrong way.

While it has been suggested that, with this film in particular, Lynch might be having us on, I think he bridges the gap between self-indulgence and subversion here. Yes, it features an inexplicable metamorphisis and strange doubles among other wierdness, but the consistency of mood and atmosphere is so engrossing that we go along for the ride anyway.

Love or hate him, David Lynch is still a pioneering filmmaker of our time.

[paws the great]

I don't like his zombie flicks too much,but I love his Giallo!

Here are some I liked a lot.


A Lizard in Woman's Skin
The New York Ripper
Murder-Rock
One on Top of the Other
Don't Torture A Duckling


Too bad he didn't make more of them!:(

[Baron_Blood]

I'd have to agree with Paws the Great. I prefer his giallo to his gore films. However, he made some great gore films too. Here is my top 5 Fulci's:

New York Ripper
A Lizard in a Woman's Skin
Don't Torture a Duckling
The Beyond
City of the Living Dead

Btw, I really want to see Seven Notes in Black and Beatrice Cenci. I hear they are totally rad.