scream v halloween

[swiss tony]

this poll stems from a debate that originated in the suspiria thread

[Unaboner3000]

I don't think this poll will be very close.

[Shady]

Obviously Halloween is the better if the two. Although Scream comes in very close. I really enjoyed Scream and it is by far one of my favorite horror movies of all time. Scream is one of those movies where I can watch all day and never get sick of it. Halloween gets very old after awhile.

[alkytrio666]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.


















...Halloween.

[mordrid]

Obviously Halloween is the better if the two. Although Scream comes in very close. I really enjoyed Scream and it is by far one of my favorite horror movies of all time. Scream is one of those movies where I can watch all day and never get sick of it. Halloween gets very old after awhile.

Scream comes in very close? In what way? If Scream can stand the test of time like Halloween has, then maybe. Right now Scream, though a decent movie for what it is, is just nothing more than a horror parody that does a good job on its own as a slasher pic.

[the_real_linda]

i love scream so much but its gotta be halloween

[The Mothman]

honestly. if you voted scream....nevermind.

[Disease]

I see the people who voted for scream didn't write anything, What are you afraid off?

I say, halloween!

[crabapple]

I am not really a fan of the scream films, at all. But then again, I don't think the scream films were trying to be anything more than entertaining, somewhat tongue-in-cheek horror spoof films with a hard gory edge. And on that level, they work fine.

As for the Halloween series, I liked Episode 1 (A New Hope) because it established everything. 2 was a good sequel--got better with age, in my opinion, as I hated it the first time I saw it. 3 had nothing to do with Michael Myers but was very imaginative while also being kind of cheesy, so it rates at least a 5 out of 10 for me.

The other Halloween movies...well, let's not talk about those.

[Posher778]

scream!!!!!!!!

[the_real_linda]

a new hope?????? :confused: :confused:

[Mictlantechutli]

a new hope?????? :confused: :confused:

I thought that was funny:D Nicely played, Crabapple.

no one would want a #1 in a series be referred to as a Phantom Menace

[mcilroga]

scream!!!!!!!!

I DON'T WANT TO.

Seriously though, back that up.

[Posher778]

I DON'T WANT TO.

Seriously though, back that up.

How do you want me to back it up? It's an amazing film (imo) that laughs at itself, has true fear, can actually be scary, good acting (it's better than halloween's acting at least), good story( a lot more than halloween's), it has nice plot twists, great kills, creative phone calls, surprising jump scares, suspense, comedy, blood and gore, antagonist's that are at least somewhat realistic in the fact that they die EVENTUALLY, unlike the dumbass nebula or whatever keeping michael alive, good soundtrack(I'm sorry, but as frightening and perfect as Halloween's ost is, I like the Scream music better), lot's of cameos from really well known people, extremely interesting characters, and great setting and locations, especially Sidney's house. It also has a brutal finale, and is actually scary if you look at it from the right perspective. The Killer(s) are completely deranged, the way they do their work is freaky and psychotic, and... I love the last reel with the surprise jump out... Is that enough back up? Hope so.

[swiss tony]

do horror movies have to be either old or exceptional to have any soul? a lot of new movies tick most of the boxes but still are a great steaming pile of shite. although i know an example is totally surplus, how about Hostel

[AsylumSeeker]

Wow, it's like people think their choice is in direct correlation to penis size or something. Being a woman, I really don't care :P I voted Halloween and, honestly, to me these two films are in such different classes that it's like putting up....Animal House against Earnest Goes to Camp. Just my opinion. Scream was cute and fun, but a classic....I don't know. I enjoyed it, don't get me wrong, I just don't see them as being in the same genre. Like Shaun of the Dead and Dawn of the Dead.

[swiss tony]

Wow, it's like people think their choice is in direct correlation to penis size or something. Being a woman, I really don't care :P I voted Halloween and, honestly, to me these two films are in such different classes that it's like putting up....Animal House against Earnest Goes to Camp. Just my opinion. Scream was cute and fun, but a classic....I don't know. I enjoyed it, don't get me wrong, I just don't see them as being in the same genre. Like Shaun of the Dead and Dawn of the Dead.

if you had to label the two opposing classes you'd put them into, what would they be? i think they are in the same category, although i take your point about screams comedic qualities. still, i would call them 'crazy man/men on stalking slashing spree' movies

[mcilroga]

It's an amazing film (imo)

It's a moderate film.

can actually be scary,

Halloween is scarier.

good acting (it's better than halloween's acting at least),

No, it's not.

good story( a lot more than halloween's),

Uh, nope.

it has nice plot twists,

That I'll give you.

great kills,

Halloween's were better.

creative phone calls,

Black Christmas's were better.

surprising jump scares,

Didn't jump once. At least, in Halloween, the film was creepy.

suspense,

You mean, like, when the chick goes up the garage door? Yeah, I was boiling with anticipation.

comedy,

"Never say, 'I'll be right back.'"

"I'll be right baaaaaaaacckkk!" *cue dumb face*

blood and gore,

Typical.

antagonist's that are at least somewhat realistic in the fact that they die EVENTUALLY,

Took them long enough.

unlike the dumbass nebula or whatever keeping michael alive,

What the fuck are you talking about? If you're referring to THORN, I'll inform you that the inane storyline didn't come in until part 6. We're talking about the original's here... keep the conversation on topic.

good soundtrack(I'm sorry, but as frightening and perfect as Halloween's ost is, I like the Scream music better),

Doesn't even compare.

lot's of cameos from really well known people,

Whopee-shit.

extremely interesting characters,

That's not even funny. I didn't give a shit about Sydney... Sorry you did.

and great setting and locations,

Haddonfield kicks Scream's ass.

especially Sidney's house.

Myers house was better.

It also has a brutal finale,

Versus Halloween's very atmospheric, chilling, and enigmatic ending.

and is actually scary if you look at it from the right perspective.

What perspective?

The Killer(s) are completely deranged,]

Myers is more deranged.

the way they do their work is freaky and psychotic,

As does Myers.

and... I love the last reel with the surprise jump out...

And I love Halloween's montage ending.

Is that enough back up? Hope so.

No.

[Despare]

I voted for Halloween because that's the movie I PREFER. I guess people aren't allowed to have an opinion anymore. Go ahead... just ask me to back up my choice...

[mcilroga]

I voted for Halloween because that's the movie I PREFER. I guess people aren't allowed to have an opinion anymore. Go ahead... just ask me to back up my choice...

I guess people aren't allowed to negate opinions anymore.

You're right, it was too much of me to ask for someone to back up their choice.

[AsylumSeeker]

if you had to label the two opposing classes you'd put them into, what would they be? i think they are in the same category, although i take your point about screams comedic qualities. still, i would call them 'crazy man/men on stalking slashing spree' movies

That's a great question. I think my differentiation between them is that one is a very serious, crazy stalker thing with the insanity overtones and the other is very much a send up of those same serious films.

[DEATHH DREAMS author]

[QUOTE=I guess people aren't allowed to have an opinion anymore. [/QUOTE]

People can have opinions, just not ridiculously idiotic ones!

[can't get enough gore]

Without Halloween there would be no Scream :p

[mcilroga]

People can have opinions, just not ridiculously idiotic ones!

Quoted for truth.

[swiss tony]

Quoted for truth.

elaborate please.

[horrorobsessed]

why are we even debating this? Scream vs. Halloween? there's no fight because Halloween is completely and utterly supreme to Scream.

1. the score is the most excellent of all horror movies(in my opinion). music is one the most essential factors in making a movie even remotely creepy, and Scream's score does not do that.

2. Halloween was completely original, the first of it's kind. Scream was not, it basically spoofed everything before it.

3. Michael Myers is the shit, and the two jackasses in Scream (can't even remember their names they sucked so bad).

4. Halloween had 'Don't Fear the Reaper' in its soundtrack. and when Scream played 'School's Out' as background music they didn't even bother to get the best version of it......Alice Cooper!

[Posher778]

4. Halloween had 'Don't Fear the Reaper' in its soundtrack. and when Scream played 'School's Out' as background music they didn't even bother to get the best version of it......Alice Cooper!

So what? Scream had red right hand, which is good too. Get over it, people are going to like different films than you, welcome to the real world. this isn't directed only at you btw, i'm not trying to start something, but anyone who says that someone elses opinion is stupid because it isn't like your own is totally asking to be dropkicked in an alley somewhere.

[horrorobsessed]

So what? Scream had red right hand, which is good too. Get over it, people are going to like different films than you, welcome to the real world. this isn't directed only at you btw, i'm not trying to start something, but anyone who says that someone elses opinion is stupid because it isn't like your own is totally asking to be dropkicked in an alley somewhere.

i didn't say that anyone's opinion was stupid, if it came out that way i'm sorry.

all i was trying to say was that Scream doesn't even come close to being as awesome as Halloween. that's just my opinion, however, i do know that a lot of people share this same opinion. so i'm not really going to feel bad about what i said.

not trying to start anything, just replying.

[Shadow]

I am going to vote Halloween. Scream is watchable but I would not consider it scary. Myers is definatly more visually scary, his whole image and attitude can freak you out. Scream well I find the scream mask has just become comedy. However I did like that you didnt know who the killer was in Scream but as I said Myers definatly more scary. The whole atmosphere of Halloween was more creepy. I consider both to be good films but over all Halloween is better IMO.

[halloweenfreak1]

This is the most pointless poll I have ever seen.The out come is so obvious.

[Kane_Hodder]

Halloween. Scream doesnt even come close to John Carpenter's classic slasher.

[swiss tony]

This is the most pointless poll I have ever seen.The out come is so obvious.

i agree, it is a foregone conclusion. i posted it to resolve an argument in a long since dead thread. you have to admit, it is promoting a lot of comment. based on the content on the initial thread i think a lot of closet scream fans are keeping their heads down in the face of a landslide. you're right, you can't really compare the benchmark for probably the most popular horror sub-genre with a humourous parody of the sub genre. scream does deserve a little credit, it is a solid movie that contributed to the recent horror kick start