sunshine - danny boyle

[why me why now]

hi all..

sorry if this is a repost - the search button didn't want to seem to work for me :rolleyes:

Anyway - i blagged a place at a press screening of this the other day....AND IT'S AWSOME.

I keep seeing people compare it to The Core etc...but it's nothing like that. Think alien crossed with the shining and you're more or less there...
Actually sprinkle some 28 days later in there too..

Anyone else seen this? Some seriously thought provoking stuff going on

trailer by the way (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WNZwrgFo3GE)

[Shadow]

I had difficulty with the search at first also. I find if you right click search this thread then select open it will open a search at bottom of forum. Might work for you.

Also hell that trailer looks good. However from looking at the trailer it does seem more like an end of the world/save the world film rather than horror.

So you have seen it and you consider it horror?

[why me why now]

I had difficulty with the search at first also. I find if you right click search this thread then select open it will open a search at bottom of forum. Might work for you.

Also hell that trailer looks good. However from looking at the trailer it does seem more like an end of the world/save the world film rather than horror.

So you have seen it and you consider it horror?



ah yes - thanks for the search tip.

yes - as above i managed to blag a press screening (i'm a little bit werr...a little bit weee :D )

I would consider it horror as i would say alien is more horror than sci-fi. To be honest i think the 'save the world' premise is a bit incidental. The real meat of the story is in the mentalness that escalates with the crew (which is what made me think of the shining).

In that sense it;s similar to 28 days later for me.The end of that film, actually the whole premise to be honest, was incidental to the pressures on the characters.

in that sense it was a psychological horror for me, as is sunshine

Am i making any sense here at all?

:rolleyes:

[Shadow]

Took a few reads to understand (but im a bit slow lol)
You have cleared that up for me and I feel I must view this film now.
*puts on to be viewed list (near the top)*

[why me why now]

Took a few reads to understand (but im a bit slow lol)
You have cleared that up for me and I feel I must view this film now.
*puts on to be viewed list (near the top)*

sorry yes - i rushed that last post.

i can use 28 days as an example - The highlights of that film for me were things like:

1) Being completely alone in london - it's like that childhood fantasy of being able to freeze the world and being able to do whatever you want. where would you go

2) The towerblock scenario - How the hell you survive in that environment. What risk is worthwhile to take to escape it

3) the scene with the soldiers and the women - where it becomes obvious that they are prepared to be 'sub-human' towards these women to try and perpetuate the human race.

For me it's things like that that were the most gripping parts of the film, as opposed to guys with red eyes running around and eating people.

Sunshine is kind of the same - the decisions that the characters are forced to make, and what *I* would do in the same situation.
Spaceships, towerblocks etc...are all kind of beside the point in terms of what is actually interesting about the film..Which for me is the relationships between the people involved *as exacerbated by* their environment.

"Hell is other people" after all ;)

Am i confusing this further?

:cool:

[DP McCoy]

I like Danny Boyle's work so far,i like Cillian Murphy so i am looking forward to this,the trailer however doesn't set my world alight,trailers can be so misleading though but i will still go along and see this and hope for the best.

[why me why now]

I like Danny Boyle's work so far,i like Cillian Murphy so i am looking forward to this,the trailer however doesn't set my world alight,trailers can be so misleading though but i will still go along and see this and hope for the best.

indeed - take a look at this that i stumbled across the other day

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Gutk2iMYFTs

the original 1979 trailer for alien. Not exactly representative of the actual pace of the film

still looks damn good though :p


and no - the Sunshine trailer doesn't really illustrate the most interesting parts of the film...And actually i don;t think you could in a 90 second clip

[DP McCoy]

That Alien trailer was pretty intense,very un-nerving and very effective.I guess the thing with trailers concerning movies set in space is that one can end up looking pretty much like another although the movies themselves are vastly different beasts.The Alien trailer concentrated on the tension&substance rather than painting a pretty picture,damn good stuff thanks for that.:)

[why me why now]

That Alien trailer was pretty intense,very un-nerving and very effective.I guess the thing with trailers concerning movies set in space is that one can end up looking pretty much like another although the movies themselves are vastly different beasts.The Alien trailer concentrated on the tension&substance rather than painting a pretty picture,damn good stuff thanks for that.:)



no worries - amazing how good it still looks after such a long time eh?

[DP McCoy]

no worries - amazing how good it still looks after such a long time eh?

Yes,looks great and the movie as a whole hasn't dated at all badly considering it was made 28 years ago.

[why me why now]

Yes,looks great and the movie as a whole hasn't dated at all badly considering it was made 28 years ago.

still looks amazing imo...much more 'real' than all the shiny cgi these days.

the only thing i wish was different is them having shown the alien in full body shot at the end.
It was kind of a shame to finally give it a sense of scale, as all the other shots throughout the film had only been of sections of the creature which made it very hard to gauge the size or mass of it - and that added to the sense of mystery and threat.

As it is, the final shot kind of looked what it was - a man in an alien costume

:mad:

[Ash's_evil_hand]

still looks amazing imo...much more 'real' than all the shiny cgi these days.

the only thing i wish was different is them having shown the alien in full body shot at the end.
It was kind of a shame to finally give it a sense of scale, as all the other shots throughout the film had only been of sections of the creature which made it very hard to gauge the size or mass of it - and that added to the sense of mystery and threat.

As it is, the final shot kind of looked what it was - a man in an alien costume

:mad:

You know, that's a very good point. I'm a big advocate of the 'what you don't see is more scary than what you do' train of thought, and Alien did that right the way through.

I think what saved that scene for me, though, was already knowing how invincible the creature was - 'You can't kill it, it's perfect' is what we are told.

It took me a long time to respect 'Aliens' when that came out, simply on that premise - I always considered the Aliens to be more or less invulnerable, and yet there are hundreds of them getting blown apart without much of a problem. Once I saw it as an action film, though, (and once I saw the special edition) I fully accepted it for what it was, and I love both films now.

Alien is still far scarier, though.

[why me why now]

You know, that's a very good point. I'm a big advocate of the 'what you don't see is more scary than what you do' train of thought, and Alien did that right the way through.

I think what saved that scene for me, though, was already knowing how invincible the creature was - 'You can't kill it, it's perfect' is what we are told.

It took me a long time to respect 'Aliens' when that came out, simply on that premise - I always considered the Aliens to be more or less invulnerable, and yet there are hundreds of them getting blown apart without much of a problem. Once I saw it as an action film, though, (and once I saw the special edition) I fully accepted it for what it was, and I love both films now.

Alien is still far scarier, though.

agreed - less is most definitely more. i felt that about 2001 - where the sheer threat of Hal came through just through that one immobile red light....Sunshine has shades of that now i think about it

[why me why now]

oh and also - i think that's why i'm a much bigger fan of the silent hill games, rather than resident evil..

[are you allowed to talk about video games on here?] :o

[why me why now]

Yes,looks great and the movie as a whole hasn't dated at all badly considering it was made 28 years ago.

'28 Years Earlier'



:getscoat:

[Ash's_evil_hand]

agreed - less is most definitely more. i felt that about 2001 - where the sheer threat of Hal came through just through that one immobile red light....Sunshine has shades of that now i think about it

Agreed as well - I think Hal is one of the most threatening adversaries in film. Kubrick is an absolute master of this type of thing. He really gets across the idea of a flat, emotionless THING you're seeing - how can you reason with that?

I have to turn my webcam away from my face when I'm not using it - it reminds me too much of Hal. I'm sure it's watching me, even when the PC's not switched on... :eek:

[why me why now]

I have to turn my webcam away from my face when I'm not using it - it reminds me too much of Hal. I'm sure it's watching me, even when the PC's not switched on... :eek:


HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!



oh god - i do that too

:o

[why me why now]

found a lovely new clip

check THIS cgi out :eek:

http://www.sunshinedna.com/videos/19

[Ash's_evil_hand]

found a lovely new clip

check THIS cgi out :eek:

http://www.sunshinedna.com/videos/19

That's a lovely sequence. I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

And CGI too. I should be ashamed.

I've always been a bit of a sucker for space CGI though, I suppose. Just not the fast moving 'live-action' CGI, like for example the appalling Godzilla, which I think is already dating very quickly. IMO, Star trek TNG CGI still stands up very well to this day.

:eek: geek attack :eek: sorry!

[Amalthea_unicorn]

I saw the trailer, and I'm looking forward to this too!

[why me why now]

That's a lovely sequence. I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

And CGI too. I should be ashamed.

I've always been a bit of a sucker for space CGI though, I suppose. Just not the fast moving 'live-action' CGI, like for example the appalling Godzilla, which I think is already dating very quickly. IMO, Star trek TNG CGI still stands up very well to this day.

:eek: geek attack :eek: sorry!



i fell asleep in godzilla, 3 times..aso i really can;t comment...

but yeah - anyway...What i loved about the cgi in that clip is that it wasn't really cgi-looking...Looks very natural to me..

cos - y'know..i've got loads of experience in watching planets move across the sun close up

:rolleyes:

[Ash's_evil_hand]

i fell asleep in godzilla, 3 times..aso i really can;t comment...

but yeah - anyway...What i loved about the cgi in that clip is that it wasn't really cgi-looking...Looks very natural to me..

cos - y'know..i've got loads of experience in watching planets move across the sun close up

:rolleyes:

Me too! I'm so quick to criticise anything I KNOW looks wrong, yet so quick to accept something I have no experience of. :rolleyes:

I saw on IMDB that the release for this in the US has been put back to autumn. Any idea when it comes out in the UK?

[why me why now]

Me too! I'm so quick to criticise anything I KNOW looks wrong, yet so quick to accept something I have no experience of. :rolleyes:

I saw on IMDB that the release for this in the US has been put back to autumn. Any idea when it comes out in the UK?

april 16th i believe

just seen a review on aintitcool from a screening here in London a couple of days ago:

"Having had the pleasure to catch a screening of Danny Boyle’s new film Sunshine, followed by a Q&A with the man himself and star of the film Cillian Murphy, I thought I’d share my 2 cents worth with you.

Essentially the plot is that the sun is slowly dying and a group of scientists are on a mission to reverse this by ‘kick starting’ the sun. The film knowingly references many sci-fi films from the serious and reflective, 2001 and Aliens, to the more popcorn, Event Horizon. To give you an early idea of how much I enjoyed it I’d place it much closer to the first two films mentioned than the latter. In fact some of the scenes almost feel like updated versions of Kubrick’s film (watch out for the monoliths at the end!) As their ship (the Icarus II) gets closer to the sun they encounter Icarus I, from an earlier, failed attempt. As soon as they decide to change course and investigate things start to go wrong.

Some of the most wonderful thing about the film are the visuals and sound design, this film is a treat for the senses. The CGI work is exemplary and goes a long way to establishing the sun as a character in its own right. The sound design suits the grand scale of the picture perfectly, we’re talking Oscar quality here, and Danny Boyle’s directing is at times mesmerising. The choices he makes behind the camera are inspired. He manages to infuse the screen with beauty, from the serene depictions of the ship at the beginning of the film to the extreme, jumpy, staccato, blurry and physically jarring work that comes later. It is all note perfect.

There are some fine performances but they are all overshadowed by the truly excellent visuals. Whilst Boyle does his best to balance everything out there is no denying that the visuals, don’t necessarily overpower, but are of a much higher standard that some of the acting on display. Cillian Murphy puts in a strong performance and is able to convey the internal struggle of the character very well. Both Michelle Yeoh and Hiroyuki Sanda are very good and Rose Byrne equips herself well in a part that is far too small. The other performances range from average to poor, the main problem being that the supporting actors are unable to fully portray the intellectual gravitas that such people in their position and their characters would inevitably have and that ultimately weakens the impact of the film. That’s not to say its all their own fault as the characters on the periphery are very one sided and stereotypical not leaving the cast a great deal to work with. Though it is not long before in true sci-fi style they meet untimely demises.

The closer the crew travel to the sun the more their obsession with its power takes control to the point where it takes on almost mythical proportions and the film poses some metaphysical questions.

A hugely enjoyable if not totally original film Sunshine would not exist if it were not for those that have gone before it. Boyle has borrowed from the best sci-fi of the last 40 years and brought it bang up to date. I personally can’t wait to watch it again!"

[why me why now]

oh nice...Just saw this: http://www.sunshinemoments.co.uk/

Some lovely pix in there....



Also, interview with boyle in the guardian;

http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview...040180,00.html


interesting to read this:


"We had this argument in the bar last night. He said it's absolutely critical we use nuclear power and Cillian said, 'What about the Irish sea? It's so polluted and there's all these leukaemia clusters.' And Cox went, 'If we use nuclear power we can give light and food to a million people in Africa and you're worried about a few hundred people in Ireland?'"

I'm more and more convinced that Boyle's principle interests lie in these human dilemmas, and his films are just different backdrops to explore what is basically the same idea each time

[why me why now]

just found this > http://www.myspace.com/sunshinemovie

More clips etc....interesting choice of top friends ;0)

[Ash's_evil_hand]

This comes out on the 5th of April. Can't wait to see it.

Oh no, I've gone and let the build-up build up my expectations! ;)

[why me why now]

This comes out on the 5th of April. Can't wait to see it.

Oh no, I've gone and let the build-up build up my expectations! ;)

just relax, sit back, and enjoy. Don;t get all het up about it

;)

[why me why now]

UK release this weekend! BOH!

:)

[why me why now]

hearing a lot of different reviews of this - seems to be polarising people something chronic. two reviews from papers here - seems to sum it up fairly well..

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6323/londonliteds1.jpg

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,2042098,00.html

[chaibill]

i just watched the trailer on fox's site looks good but i guess the asian guy dies unless it really is an original movie

[why me why now]

i just watched the trailer on fox's site looks good but i guess the asian guy dies unless it really is an original movie

to coin a phrase... "lulz"

[why me why now]

http://www.sunshinesunspots.com/

cute idea...and lol @ the first entry > http://youtube.com/sunspotsmessageuk

[chaibill]

to coin a phrase... "lulz"

what does that mean?

[why me why now]

what does that mean?

like 'lol', but even lamer

[why me why now]

any more reviews?

:confused:

[the_real_linda]

i loved it.....kinda...well sorta.....i dunno....hes a fab directer any which way

[why me why now]

i loved it.....kinda...well sorta.....i dunno....hes a fab directer any which way


lol - made an impact then...:p

[the_real_linda]

HUGE IMPACT....well a fairly big one...i enjoyed it....sorta....no i did........really :rolleyes:

[why me why now]

HUGE IMPACT....well a fairly big one...i enjoyed it....sorta....no i did........really


:D :D :D :D :D

[fuglystick]

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I just saw this yesterday. I thought it was a good film, but the third act was a little weak, especially after the film began so well. Halfway through, I was thinking it belonged in the company of "Alien," but I found the end a bit of a let down, although still acceptable.

[Roderick Usher]

Every Danny Boyle film falls apart in the 3rd act - he's genius for two acts but ever delivers the goods in the end. I keep watching his films because 2/3 of a great film is still better than most people ever get and I'm still rooting for him to really knock one out of the park.