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[errorinxcelence]

Am I alone in the genre or is anyone NOT wanting all the re-makes of classic movies. I read an interview with the director of the new TCM and he said he was more or less supposed to be another installment in the series but the studio knew no one would go see TCM part 5. and Dawn of the dead??? WHY the FUCK do we need to remake that movie. And this is off topic but I read in the FvJ 2 thread that good ole BC wouldnt play ash (if he is in the movie) WHAT THE FUCK. Hollywood needs a slap on the ass and I am not talking about some little pat either. We need some good horror movies. Not remakes, not sequals, and def. not anymore of those shitty teeny bopper movies.

*end rant*

[ds_spoon]

great rant error in xcellence i agree with u completely even morso about the shitty teeen horror movies

[ShamSham04]

Shitty teen horror movies...

That also includes anything related to the following movies:

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003 and 1974)
A Nightmare On Elm Street
Halloween
Friday The 13th

I don't think any of those movies are shitty...but yah know, to each his or her own opinion, as I always say.

[JimmyScoops]

I agree 100 percent, errorinxcelence. This applies not just to horror, but all movies (I remember hearing about a remake of Casablanca. WTF!?!?)

But horror does particularly seem to be taking the brunt of this, which is especially disappointing because the genre lends itself so well to creativity and there is still a lot of potential out there for people to make new ORIGINAL movies.

If Hollywood wants these movies back in theaters, fine. I would have LOVED to have seen TCM re-released the same way Excorcist was a couple of years ago. If you have new footage you want to add to the flick that you think adds something to it, fine. I would also love to see a re-release of Dawn of the Dead instead of a remaking.

When a movie is so great, what's the point in trying to remake it?

[mictlan]

Originally posted by JimmyScoops
I agree 100 percent, errorinxcelence. This applies not just to horror, but all movies (I remember hearing about a remake of Casablanca. WTF!?!?)


I heard that it was to be a Bennifer project. This rumor, fact or fiction, was pre-Gigli, of course.

Another one I heard was that Harrison Ford and Clarista Flockhart were going to remake Breakfast at Tiffany's. Ick.



When a movie is so great, what's the point in trying to remake it?

They are reluctant to spend money on a new idea when they can use an idea that is proven to have made money. Eventually they will run out of ideas to remake and we will have films about stupid shit like Slinkys.

[cheebacheeba]

just a short bout of support here, I have to say I agree about the remake ok dawn of the dead....why the fuck? Do they really think they're gonna out-do THE BEST DAMN ZOMBIE FILM EVER???
First of all, they can't and won't...
Secondly, who here thinks they need to?

[Sam The Egg]

Teens...that's who goes to see the movies. That's mostly who went to see them in the 70's and 80's. The only thing stopping the movies from being as gorey is the protesting. Stop blaming them for making movies geared towards teens, as that's the core audience for horror movies. Blame the religious fundamentalists, blame PETA, blame ANY organization that's for any specific race or religion or that has a cause, because no matter what group it is, eventually something in movies will piss them off, and that's when the protests come, and that's what kills horror movies.

[errorinxcelence]

Just a note I want to add to this thread I just read today in Maxim magazine. A nationally distributed magazine that Bruce Campbell's people have been talking with the FvJ 2 people.

[Sick_As_Fuck]

I actually don't mind remakes. I though the new TCM was fucking great. And I know I'm not alone here. However, from the trailer I saw the new Dawn of the Dead doesn't look promising at all. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised though. Oh yeah, and what's wrong with teens? I'm a teen myself, only 19, but I consider myself pretty damn knowledeable in the modern horror genre.

[Distorty]

As much as i dislike the idea of remaking these classic horror films its better than the genre dying or falling into the horrible 90's slasher films, I know what you did last summer, Scream etc

[nightbreed]

ive got to agree with Sick_As on this one I love the new TCM. Was it better than the original. No way. But I prefer to look at it like a comic dork. Let me explain. In the comic world there are these spinoff comics called "what ifs", like "punisher kills the entire marvel universe". That how i look at the new TCM. They took the same basic characters and threw in a different story. I liked how different they were. To me it showed that they respcted the OG version b/c they didnt try and re make it, simply take the scenario in a different direction.

Dawn of the Dead remake. Well first off ill say that i thought Dawn was the weakest of the trinity. Yeah its got some good social commentary on it. But really, and you have to agree on this, the zombies are fucking green. I just couldnt feel it. Like "Hey ive got an idea thats going to save on budgeting, lets get a bunch of extras and paint them up like a bunch of fucking martians."

And im not agreeing that it should be remade but ill give it a chance, though im pretty sure its going to fucking suck. really these days i only go to horror movies for the effects, sometimes i get suprised with a decent flick. also lets not forget the 1990 night of the living dead, IMO, the best zombie movie to date. But at the same time Romero did write it, and had savini direct, so i think it had some of the same tone that the others did, and the new DOTD doesnt have any backing from romero.

[ShamSham04]

Originally posted by Distorty
As much as i dislike the idea of remaking these classic horror films its better than the genre dying or falling into the horrible 90's slasher films, I know what you did last summer, Scream etc

It's very hard for me to respect your opinion. How could you want remakes more than a slasher flick such as the THREE from the 90's? Come on, man, slasher flicks aren't the most original thing in the world, I'll admit. But I'd choose them over a remake anyday. Basically what you're saying is you want a remake over a completely different horror movie, and that's where it becomes hard to respect your opinion. But I do, so don't throw bricks at me or anything....

[Sam The Egg]

Didn't some Halloween, F13 and NoeS movies come out in the 90's, too?

[Ritualistic]

it is what will sale and the fuckers in hollywood know this... I say bring back the old drive in classics and that is where true horror will be at... but there is not a big market for it, and as long as they put out some slasher/gore big budget films every other year then they think they are feeding the horror public.. But if there is horror fans on here that are like me then you probably own more 70`s-80`s horror, and you basically forget about the new horror, but you still check it our for mere curiousity... so to me it is not a big deal.. as long as I have my old horror then I am happy...

[Ritualistic]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Didn't some Halloween, F13 and NoeS movies come out in the 90's, too? this is true

[starseed]

My favorite horror remakes:

The Thing
House on Haunted Hill
13 Ghosts
Evil Dead 2 (it's a remake)
Night of the Living Dead
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1972)
TCM 2003 (I never understood how Psycho and TCM were based on the same serial killer until this version)
The Fly
The Blob
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Village of the dammed

Most hated remakes:

Psycho
Lost in Space
The Mummy
TCM: The Next Generation
Cat People
The Haunting
King Kong

What is a remake anyway? Part 2, 3, 4, 5 those are remakes or just regurgitated versions of the original. Take Demons and Demons 2 for example - Demons 2 is the exact same story with the only difference being the Demon come out of a TV instead of a movie screen and the people are trapped in an apartment instead of a theater. It's really just a remake or rehash of the same story.

Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of unofficial remakes and rip-offs like:
ID4=War of the Worlds
Eight Legged Freaks = Any giant spider movie from the 50's
Alien = Creature
Night of the Living Dead = All zombie movies
Link = Monkey Shines
The Werewolf - The Howling

People have been stealing ideas and story lines from movies, books, comics, Games, history etc. What is original these days anyway (even in Asia - maybe if we lived there we might know where those "original" stories have been stolen from too - And Asian movies steal from other countries too - The Séance was taken from Séance on a Rainy Day - I guess people think the grass is always greener on the other side).

I have no problem with remakes as long as they are well done. If it's not good, then it's just another crappy movie. Some I like, while other I hate. I just take it one at a time and for what it is.

Just my .02

[Sam The Egg]

THANK YOU Starseed for that very insightyful observation bout Asian movies

[Sick_As_Fuck]

Like someone said, if they take our favorite characters but change the story up, and do it right, then it's all good with me. And the new TCM mos def was done right IMO. And how is "Scream" horrible? That may be the best mainstream horror movie we got in the nineties period. Not including the sequels, of course.

[Sam The Egg]

Scream is not a horror movie, it's satire. In that sense, it's very well done. It gets a bad rap because it spawned a lot of horrible movies.

[rikki]

I'm not a huge remake fan myself - see Gone in 60 Seconds and I LOVE Angelina Jolie. Most remakes turn out to be total and utter crap.

And Breakfast at Tiffany's is one of my favorite movies (who doesn't love a movie/book/story where 2 hookers fall in love?) and I'm a HUGE Indiana Jones fan, but Harrison Ford and Skeletor girl as the "new age" Holly and Paul.

Also, I have not seen the new TCM, so I don't have any opinions on that one. I hear it's supposed to be good, but I haven't found the courage yet to possibly taint my love for the original. The Psycho remake sucked ass IMHO, and I like Vince Vaughn.

[Voorhees]

I hate remakes! I was sick when i heard they were making a new version of The Exorcist... Are there great differences between psycho 1960 and 1998 versions? I have only seen the 1998 version :(

[starseed]

Oddly enought the Psycho remake was supposed to be shot exactly like the original - frame for frame - scene for scene - word for word. They even kept the "mistakes" from the original.

That's why it's on my hated remakes list.

I'm not sure what the point was in doing that, but it might make for a good film student study I guess.

I actually liked Scream, but as someone said, it's a satire. I remember Ebert (the movie review guy - I know, who cares what he says) in his review of Scream saying that usually when a genre satires it's self, it spells the end of the genre. With movies like "I Know What You Did Last Summer", "Valentine", "Urban Legend", "Scary Movie" etc. I got scared that he was right and Horror was going to die. (I'm not knocking those movies). I think Wes said Scream was supposed to rebirth the horror genre, but it just gave birth to these low-intensity copies. Thank goodness (or darkness) the intensity in horror is still alive.

[errorinxcelence]

The Thing was a good remake and not to say that all remakes are shit. Just why remake perfect movies like TCM and DotD

[Onikitty]

I hate the majority of remakes, they make me sad for some reason

All though my favorite movie is a remake(THe Count of Monte Cristo) hah

[slrae]

I hate remakes and movie versions of TV shows! WTF!

Why did they even bother with Texas Chainsaw 2003 when the original still holds up? You can't replace Gunnar Hansen!

I and some of my writing buddies think that Hollyweird has honestly run out of ideas. So they decide to rehash something or make Love Boat - The Movie because there's a built in audience (where?, I have no friggin' clue!)

It's time to bring back hardcore horror, no more of this non-original watered down crap! If people are offended and can't handle it...GREAT! That's what's so damn cool about horror!

[Sick_As_Fuck]

Well obviously "Scream" wasn't supposed to be a serious horror movie, but that shouldn't change the fact that Wes Craven accomplished what he wanted with the movie. I LOVE the first one. I've seen it over 50 times probably and could see it another 50 more. Now the trilogy part of it is a different story.

[Arioch]

Why did they even bother with Texas Chainsaw 2003 when the original still holds up? You can't replace Gunnar Hansen!

smartest post ive read in a while;)