the greats you hate

[swiss tony]

just thought i would try and get some negative feedback on some of these so called classics that people bang on about but when you actually watch them they are dog shit. i bought and watched the first 15 minutes only of the last house on the left. it was supposed to have a good reputation. so if anyone feels like sharing any bad experiences with these 'greats' it would help me be more selective in picking up supposed must haves for my collection. thanks

[BASSI]

the greats i hate is

The Shining is most overrated movie ever
i didn't find scary and it was so boring

[Vodstok]

I agree with tony, never cared for last house on the left. Just felt like Wes craven acting out some perverted fantasy, and the banjo music really took me out of it.

I never really cared for any of the freddy or jason movies, although i find the first couple in each series at least watchable...


Except for the mattress on the stairs in Nightmare on elm street... Dear god, they didnt even try to hide it...

[halloweenfreak1]

I didnt find any of the NoES movie very appealing. I didnt like the whole "kill you in you dreams" bull shit.

[Vodstok]

I didnt find any of the NoES movie very appealing. I didnt like the whole "kill you in you dreams" bull shit.

I thought it was interesting, especially HOW wes craven came up with it, but it was a one trick pony, that kept trying to pass it off asd a new trick.

The first time i saw New Nightmare, i didnt think it was too bad, becausei had just seen Darkness Falls. I openly dislike it now.

[halloweenfreak1]

I thought it was interesting, especially HOW wes craven came up with it, but it was a one trick pony, that kept trying to pass it off asd a new trick.

The first time i saw New Nightmare, i didnt think it was too bad, becausei had just seen Darkness Falls. I openly dislike it now.

i like the movies that are in the realm of possibility more than i do ones that can not and will never happen. Usually i can watsh a good science fiction horror flick but NoES kinda fucked it up for me(Johnny Depp was graet though)

[Vodstok]

I can see why you like Halloween then :)


Personally, Halloween 1 and 2 are the only slashers i will bother with, and maybe Scream (just the first one)

[halloweenfreak1]

truthfully i just tolerate Friday the 13th. the first one was good, and mabe the second. but i hate the rest of the series. And who the fuck cam up with jason in space. that writer should be drug out into the street and shot. it looked like an old power ranger movie.

[The_Return]

For the life of me I cant see the appeal of Jaws. It wasnt a terrible movie, but I really didnt think it was so great. Well acted but really drawn out...

The Exorcist is damn good, but it's nothing compared to the book. Very good movie, but the novel is 100% better.

Not so much horror, but I didnt think much of Hitchcock's Vertigo, either. Ok, so it had a couple good twists and a great performance from James Stewart. Too bad that's all it had going for it...

[urgeok]

Jaws is one of those movies that may not be appreciated by younger folks because by the time they see it - there has been a lot of other flashier productions.

but when that flick was first released - it scared the shit out of more people than most other horror flicks combined

[The_Return]

Jaws is one of those movies that may not be appreciated by younger folks because by the time they see it - there has been a lot of other flashier productions.

but when that flick was first released - it scared the shit out of more people than most other horror flicks combined

I couldnt care less about "flashiness"...most of my favourite movies were made long before Jaws came out, and with a hell of alot less $$$ behind them. I just didnt find Jaws entertaining at all.

[urgeok]

fair enough = but i still think if you saw this film - when it came out - in the theatre - you'd probably appreciate it a lot more..

[Vodstok]

Jaws probably did more harm to worldwide shark populations than regular fishing and pollution combined.


Hence me having a severe dislike of Peter Benchly... he was a marine biologist who profitted from feeding people's fear and ignorance. It wasnt until very late in his life that he made any attempt to rectify things, and that was too little too late in my opinion. jerk.

[urgeok]

Jaws probably did more harm to worldwide shark populations than regular fishing and pollution combined.


Hence me having a severe dislike of Peter Benchly... he was a marine biologist who profitted from feeding people's fear and ignorance. It wasnt until very late in his life that he made any attempt to rectify things, and that was too little too late in my opinion. jerk.


did you cut and paste this from the last time you ragged on the guy ? :D


same with carpenter ... he did more to sully the already tarnished reputation of homicidal insane psycho killers than anyone else.

and HE didnt even apologize !!

[_____V_____]

The Hellraiser series.

Never cared much for them, and never bothered to see any of 'em cept the original. Least interested in the remake too. I dont know why, but the original itself didnt appeal to me one bit so I never bothered with the rest.
Same with Dead Alive. So many on here dig the movie as being the goriest, and give kudos to the lawnmower scene at the climax, but it didnt appeal to me one bit. Same goes for Cannibal Holocaust, Bad Taste etc.

I dunno, maybe I get turned off by too much gore I guess. I dig movies like Se7en, Final Destination, The Omen, Session 9, Halloween, Alien, The Haunting, Rosemary's Baby, Eyes Without a Face, Suspiria, Saw etc. Great atmosphere, excellent direction and pace, believable characters and engrossing storyline. Now thats my line!!:D

[Vodstok]

did you cut and paste this from the last time you ragged on the guy ? :D


same with carpenter ... he did more to sully the already tarnished reputation of homicidal insane psycho killers than anyone else.

and HE didnt even apologize !!

No, its just the same litany. Dont like him, never will.

The Hellraiser series.



Same here....

[bwind22]

Phantasm .

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Evil Dead II
Dead Alive
Halloween
Hellraiser

[Vodstok]

Henry: Portait of a serial killer.

hated it. I am intimately familiar with the story of henry lee lucas and ottis toole, and the movie had next to nothingto do with how things went, at least according to the two of them.

[Geddy]

Hellraiser.

[Whip Slash]

Driller Killer and Ichi the Killer come to mind.

[stygianwitch]

Dead alive aka braindead.... it helps if you are before watching this rubbish

TCM *running for cover now* i know almost everyone here admires this movie but i found it really slow and boring... sorry but....

[Vodstok]

Dead alive aka braindead.... it helps if you are before watching this rubbish

TCM *running for cover now* i know almost everyone here admires this movie but i found it really slow and boring... sorry but....

Dont worry,. my wife wasnt impressed by either either. I now like TCM, but didnt when i first saw it. It is slow, but any movie where that godamn wheelchair bound retard gets killed is good by me....

[urgeok]

i dont think i 'hate' any 'greats'.

there are some 'greats' i dont like as much as other people ...
(eg. Suspiria)

and there are films i hate that are by no way, shape, or form 'great'

(the village, res evil 2, house of the dead)

[stygianwitch]

Dont worry,. my wife wasnt impressed by either either. I now like TCM, but didnt when i first saw it. It is slow, but any movie where that godamn wheelchair bound retard gets killed is good by me....

:) i'm glad i'm not the sole voice of dissent, i tend to like the movies others hate and vice versa :rolleyes:

[Roderick Usher]

i dont think i 'hate' any 'greats'.

there are some 'greats' i dont like as much as other people ...
(eg. Suspiria)

and there are films i hate that are by no way, shape, or form 'great'

(the village, res evil 2, house of the dead)

My sentiments exactly.

[The_Return]

Driller Killer and Ichi the Killer come to mind.

Didnt know it was classified as "great", but I wasnt a big fan of Driller Killer either.

[Vodstok]

Come now, House of the Dead has a peculiar form of greatness...

I sat through it reminding myself that no, the director was NOT kidding when he made it, he really thought he was doing a good job....

[urgeok]

Come now, House of the Dead has a peculiar form of greatness...

I sat through it reminding myself that no, the director was NOT kidding when he made it, he really thought he was doing a good job....



its actually very true .. according to my friend who interviewed him - he is sincerely hurt and confused the people dont like his films.

[Despare]

its actually very true .. according to my friend who interviewed him - he is sincerely hurt and confused the people dont like his films.

He'll never get a fair break either. Although fighting critics who didn't like your movie is a little off anyway. Especially with the "rules" he had for picking his opponents.

[alkytrio666]

For the life of me I cant see the appeal of Jaws. It wasnt a terrible movie, but I really didnt think it was so great. Well acted but really drawn out...

Not so much horror, but I didnt think much of Hitchcock's Vertigo, either. Ok, so it had a couple good twists and a great performance from James Stewart. Too bad that's all it had going for it...

You know, you and I have very similar tastes, but I was always shocked to see you didn't care for these two.

IMO Vertigo is perfect. One of my top 5 favorite films of all time. The performances are impeccable, the plot is flawless, the twists are wacky, the pacing is fast and fiery, the score is chilling, the sets are hauntingly fantastic. Again, IMO, this is Hitchcock's finest masterpiece, and an American film I hope my grand kids show their grand kids...




I usually, like Urge and Rod said, tend to agree with most "greats".

A lot of people loved The Boondock Saints around here (as in where I live). In fact, some have cults around it. I thought the movie was utter trash.

Of course, if they're conisdered "greats", I hated Saw, and I hated Hostel even more.

As of now, I can't think of any classics or genre leaders that I really don't like.

[urgeok]

He'll never get a fair break either. Although fighting critics who didn't like your movie is a little off anyway. Especially with the "rules" he had for picking his opponents.

it was pretty shrewd though ..

he won a lot of people over with that little stunt ..

[urgeok]

A lot of people loved The Boondock Saints around here (as in where I live). In fact, some have cults around it. I thought the movie was utter trash.




i wasnt impressed ..

it was like res dogs for 14 year olds.

[Whip Slash]

Didnt know it was classified as "great", but I wasnt a big fan of Driller Killer either.

Neither of those were. But I've seen some people that liked the two movies.

[Vodstok]

its actually very true .. according to my friend who interviewed him - he is sincerely hurt and confused the people dont like his films.

I know... It is sad, he lives in a very deluded little world.

[Phalanx]

Halloween.
The first one was "ok" but IMO nothing great...the sequels, downhill descent.

The Producers - saw the "new" one...didn't like it at all, I can only assume I'd feel the same about the old one, same shit, different cast, hm?

...and, I just can't like reservoir dogs. Bores the shit outta me...especially upon the second viewing...

[The Mothman]

Dead alive aka braindead.... it helps if you are before watching this rubbish

TCM *running for cover now* i know almost everyone here admires this movie but i found it really slow and boring... sorry but....

shame shame.

i think youre the first person ive stumbled upon that dislikes those films.

[Phalanx]

I didn't find TCM boring, but it never really made a splash with me either...I mean sure, I guess for it's time it would've turned some heads...but it's never done a great deal for me, not something I'd see again unless I was bored, and it was on tv, for free, and I had nothing else, pretty much at all, to do.
I mean, surely it had what splatter/thriller fans were after, and the whole intense psychological...blah blah blah...etc, but just didn't really work for me.

Braindead I like...not for it's shitty storyline, acting, or camerawork, but for two things, the insanity and gore factors. It's hard not to laugh...oh, and the kung fu preist. It's not like groundbreaking shit, and it's meant to be stupid on stupid...
The one I DIDN'T like was Jacksons prior film "bad taste", found that waaay too slow and boring...

[evilreign]

friday the 13th, nightmare on elms street- I dont really hate these movies but I just thought they were passable, they just seem like bad, cheesy horror, im sure at the time they were revolutionary, but now they just arent very good

[alkytrio666]

Halloween.
The first one was "ok" but IMO nothing great...the sequels, downhill descent.

The Producers - saw the "new" one...didn't like it at all, I can only assume I'd feel the same about the old one, same shit, different cast, hm?

...and, I just can't like reservoir dogs. Bores the shit outta me...especially upon the second viewing...
This should be illegal- judging an original, and great, movie based only on a remake made many years later.

The original Producers is fantastic. I highly reccomend you checking it out. It's kind of like the remake, only funny. It isn't a cutesy musical like the new one, trust me. It's risque humor and an excellent cast, with superb direction by Mel Brooks.

[alkytrio666]

i wasnt impressed ..

it was like res dogs for 14 year olds.
Exactly. Bingo.