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slayer666
11-25-2006, 02:27 AM
I ordered Shutter, Ju-On, The Eye, and Dark Water on eBay from high-volume sellers with very high ratings. The 4 DVDs arrived yesterday, and all appear to be pirated, bootlegs, or whatever you call it.

The Eye has no barcode on the DVD case, and I can't find the other 3 barcodes in DVDProfiler. Worse, each of the covers is very similar but not identical to the covers shown in DVDProfiler.

So much for buying off eBay.

urgeok
11-25-2006, 02:42 AM
I ordered Shutter, Ju-On, The Eye, and Dark Water on eBay from high-volume sellers with very high ratings. The 4 DVDs arrived yesterday, and all appear to be pirated, bootlegs, or whatever you call it.

The Eye has no barcode on the DVD case, and I can't find the other 3 barcodes in DVDProfiler. Worse, each of the covers is very similar but not identical to the covers shown in DVDProfiler.

So much for buying off eBay.



what i would do is contact the seller and tell them you are reporting them to ebay if they dont refund your money. (if you're absolutely sure about the bootleg status)

slayer666
11-25-2006, 03:05 AM
I would do that if I was sure about the bootleg status. Thing is, I have no idea how to be sure. I've been looking all over the web for some way to tell without any luck.

urgeok
11-25-2006, 04:06 AM
I would do that if I was sure about the bootleg status. Thing is, I have no idea how to be sure. I've been looking all over the web for some way to tell without any luck.



how much did you pay and what is the quality of the DVDs and packaging ?

slayer666
11-25-2006, 06:33 AM
how much did you pay and what is the quality of the DVDs and packaging ?

I haven't had a chance to watch any of them yet, but the quality of the packaging is impressive. One of them was about $10 (Shutter). I think The Eye, Ju-On, and Dark Water were about $9/each including shipping. I got The Eye, Ju-On, and Dark Water from SunDevilDVD.

urgeok
11-25-2006, 07:16 AM
9$ each is ok if they include shipping ..
even bootlegs are around $5 in the chinese malls.
(if you dont have any around you - then the extra couple of bucks it the price of convenience)

the nice thing about digital media is that the bootlegs are usually as good as the origionals .. so its kind of transparent really

slayer666
11-26-2006, 04:27 AM
i told you were to go for movies try them and this wont happen :)

I'll look at mr. international, but the places I bought from had better ratings. I suspect that all mr. international sells are bootlegs.

slayer666
11-26-2006, 10:38 AM
no they dont why would i tell you to buy from them if they were going to give you shit...they are asian market movies not us so they are not like we have here and do not come with a hard case...you use your own...but they come with nice art work and an outer sleeve with art work on it . i have over 200 from them and god one bad one ...voice , so try it.

I may give them a try, but everything I've read about identifying Asian bootlegs says that sending them without a case is a clear sign of bootlegging. After all, when one buys from HKFlix, YesAsia, CD-WOW, etc., cases are always included. I'm not asking you to defend them - just being cautious.

urgeok
11-26-2006, 03:46 PM
I may give them a try, but everything I've read about identifying Asian bootlegs says that sending them without a case is a clear sign of bootlegging. After all, when one buys from HKFlix, YesAsia, CD-WOW, etc., cases are always included. I'm not asking you to defend them - just being cautious.



cases arent included because its cheaper to ship that way.

i've seen them receiving the boots in the chinese stores in the mall by where i worked.
they get them on a spindle with the flattened case wraps and inserts .. then they put them into cases - right in the store !
they keep getting raided and busted but they pop right back up a couple of days later.

slayer666
12-01-2006, 04:48 AM
Well, I plan to give mr. international a try as soon as I can get my region free DVD player working. The HDMI switcher I ordered is supposed to be delivered today, so I should finally get to hook up the player.

urgeok
12-01-2006, 05:37 AM
Well, I plan to give mr. international a try as soon as I can get my region free DVD player working. The HDMI switcher I ordered is supposed to be delivered today, so I should finally get to hook up the player.

i just bought an old apex player a few years back and found the code online to hack it ..

whats a hdmi switcher ?

slayer666
12-01-2006, 07:13 AM
i just bought an old apex player a few years back and found the code online to hack it ..

whats a hdmi switcher ?

My TV has one DVI/HDMI input, and I currently have my HD cable box connected to it. Since I bought an upconverting DVD player with HDMI output for improved picture quality, I need a switch box so that I can have both the cable box and DVD player connected to the TV at the same time. Without a switch box, I'd have to yank the TV out and swap cables each time I went from cable to DVD and back.

slayer666
12-08-2006, 11:25 AM
If a film was released on DVD in several countries, it makes sense that there would be several regions. When I go here, I see all the different region versions of the disc: http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=5357

when I then go to mr. international on eBay and see that he is selling an R0 version, doesn't this basically prove that he sells bootlegs? Unless I'm missing something obvious, someone selling a disc as R0 which was never released as R0 is selling a bootleg. What am I missing?

Angra
12-08-2006, 12:12 PM
I'll look at mr. international, but the places I bought from had better ratings. I suspect that all mr. international sells are bootlegs.



Bingo. ;)



I noticed a very interesting thing after i started downloading movies and burn them on dvdīs. The quality were just the same, if not better, than about 90 percent of the dvdīs bought on Ebay.

Now, what does that tell ya? ;)

Angra
12-08-2006, 02:39 PM
spend 5 dollers and find out...want me to send you the 5 dollers so you dont get ripped ?



Sure.

Send him 100 dollars and this will be his last bootleg complaining. :D

slayer666
12-09-2006, 03:28 AM
spend 5 dollers and find out...want me to send you the 5 dollers so you dont get ripped ?

Believe it or not, I'm not worried about getting ripped off. I just don't want to support someone selling bootlegs. I think that him selling region-free discs that were never released in region-free versions probably establishes that they are bootlegs.

slayer666
12-10-2006, 04:16 AM
i have 123 movies from this seller and not one boot in the bunch but you can go were you want to buy dvds im sticking with these guys :) also modfish and sundevil to .:)

If they are sending you region-free discs that were never released as region-free versions, all of them are bootlegs by definition.

Angra
12-12-2006, 02:35 PM
i have 123 movies from this seller and not one boot in the bunch but you can go were you want to buy dvds im sticking with these guys :) also modfish and sundevil to .:)



Maybe you just canīt tell the difference.. :rolleyes: