Big Changes I've Seen In My Lifetime

[urgeok]

1) I still cant get my head around how swiftly the internet rendered most reference books obsolete. You cant even give encyclopedias away anymore.
Dictionaries, Thesaurus, all found online. I dig the practicality but at the same time it makes me a little sad ... i remember early schooling activities where we had contests to see who could find a certain word first in the dictionary.
I remember how much i loved the old science and nature Time-Life series of books (which i still have and will always keep) but i doubt my son will look at them much longer. No more door to door encyclopedia salesmen ! (ok - i guess it's not all bad)

2) When you sent your kids to school with lunch - and on those odd days you didnt have (or they didnt want) balony, etc, for their sandwich - the old school standby was peanut butter and jam sammies.
Now - you cant take peanut butter to school so you dont kill someones kid.
Death by sandwich. you cant tale anything with peanuts - or any other nuts in them. boys are forced to wear hermetically sealed asbestos underwear !!
They're taking no chances !

they dont even want you eating it at home before school incase you have trace amounts on your hands, etc..


I dont remember s single solitary kid having a peanut allergy when i was a kid .. whats going on ??!!


I think of some more later .. i'm not thinking things so obvious as the CD/DVD and the generation who never knew any differently .. i'm thinking of the wierder more subtle changes i've seen.

[Phalanx]

The introduction of the internet...that bought about a helluvalotta change, something "big" I was alive for.

Seems obvious, but the whole sept 11 deal, has changed so much about the way people view things and live their lives. The word "terrorist" becoming commonplace.

Introduction of reality tv. Yeck.

The death of rollerskates. I know you can still buy 'em, but inlines pretty much fucked them into obscurity...now nobody even likes THOSE anymore.

[urgeok]

The introduction of the internet...that bought about a helluvalotta change, something "big" I was alive for.

Seems obvious, but the whole sept 11 deal, has changed so much about the way people view things and live their lives. The word "terrorist" becoming commonplace.

Introduction of reality tv. Yeck.

The death of rollerskates. I know you can still buy 'em, but inlines pretty much fucked them into obscurity...now nobody even likes THOSE anymore.

i forgot about that - the whole airport experience has changed ..

also - the US Canadian border .. once the longest unprotected border in the world .. now Canadians will soon need passports to get into the USA.

[Vodstok]

As far as the peanut thing... No offence, but there was a reason John Travolta was in a BUBBLE in that movie... You cant make the world change just because someone has an allergy to something incredibly common. I had deadly allergies against cats and dogs growing up. Does that mean all the kids with pets have to shower at school before they go to class, so their dander doesnt agitate my tender sinuses?


NO. I kept well away formthe things until i found a medicine that worked for me.

I remember watching the growth of "Sexual Harrasment" and "Political Correctness". From the 80s to the 90s, i think overuse and abuse of these two things made the US both more litigous, and destroyed a massive heap of its little remaining innocence.

Lets face it: Being "Racially Sensitive" is actually segregationist. it forces you to constantly acknowledge and address differences that are better left ignored.

"That guy over there."
"Which one?"
"The black guy."
"WAIT! you cant use that word! Say 'African American!'"
"What was wrong with 'That Guy'?"

I remember shortly after the whole Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill thing, a kid in my school got suspended for a week for "Sexually harrasing" a girl. She was a big fat (literally) snot who had been making comments to this kid about being, shall we say, a good "prospect" for her because he was black, and they are more gifted, and that he wanted her. When he said he wouldnt put his dick anywhere near her ass, she whined to the teacher that he was sexually harrasing her and BAM! 1 week out of school. Instant double standard.

I think eventually, people screamed loud enough that they had to apologize to him, but he still had to stay away for a week.

[urgeok]

"That guy over there."
"Which one?"
"The black guy."


i cant think of a sigle black guy who would take offence to that ..
if my buddy (who is black) is referring to a black guy in a movie (and he is the only one in this particular movie) - and he doesnt know the guys name .. he'd say 'the black guy'

thats like saying the blonde guy or the redhead, the guy in the wheelchair, quick easy identification .. not based on discrimination.

everyone does the same thing among themselves.., asians, blacks, browns, etc ..

[The Flayed One]

Cellphones have changed life so much. Now you can get a hold of almost anyone anytime you want.

The downfall of the movie theater and the death of the drive-in. Remember when there was one or two new movies coming out a week? Theaters would hold the same movie on their one screen for a month. Now, 32 screen multiplexes (who are all going bankrupt) bringing in 7-11 new movies every week.

[kpropain]

Pretty much the rise and death of MTV as far as I'm concerned...

As Phalanx said Reality TV, ugh I'm so sick of all that shit on tv...

The fall of Soviet Russia...

The fall of the Berlin Wall...

[Vodstok]

i cant think of a sigle black guy who would take offence to that ..
if my buddy (who is black) is referring to a black guy in a movie (and he is the only one in this particular movie) - and he doesnt know the guys name .. he'd say 'the black guy'

thats like saying the blonde guy or the redhead, the guy in the wheelchair, quick easy identification .. not based on discrimination.

everyone does the same thing among themselves.., asians, blacks, browns, etc ..

EXACTLY! The only people i have known who gave a fuck either way were godamn whiny white people who over reacted to EVERYTHING.

Quotes (actual, real quotes) from some of these people:

"I'm a lesbian."
"So."
"Does it bug you?"
"No. Do you want it too?"

"if you had a kid, would you hit them if they did something wrong?"
"I dont know, maybe. If they did something really wrong, i might give them a swat."
"You would beat your kid?!"

I hate how they think they are doing the world a service for "Hurting for others" and being so oversensitive that they explode without provocation.

[urgeok]

my wife works with a gay guy .. who incessantly goes on about being a gay guy.
she works with several gay men (dunno why this particular profession) but he's the only one that prances around like a ballerina outing himself - and others...

no different than me talking to him (in paticular) non stop about being straight ..

gay or straight - who would want to hear any of that shit 24/7.

people like that just want a reaction .. its usually the only facet of their personality that they think is remotely interesting so they allow it - encourage it to define them.


i cant stand any focused outre personalities like that ... it reeks of phoniness and desperation and i have a natural aversion to that.

[Vodstok]

my wife works with a gay guy .. who incessantly goes on about being a gay guy.
she works with several gay men (dunno why this particular profession) but he's the only one that prances around like a ballerina outing himself - and others...

no different than me talking to him (in paticular) non stop about being straight ..

gay or straight - who would want to hear any of that shit 24/7.

people like that just want a reaction .. its usually the only facet of their personality that they think is remotely interesting so they allow it - encourage it to define them.


i cant stand any focused outre personalities like that ... it reeks of phoniness and desperation and i have a natural aversion to that.


I find people like that hilarious, they only give weight to sterotypes and create more for themselves to bitch about, which i imagine is their ultimate goal.

Something i thinkis funny is how styles have been changing for decades, with each having a few distinct looks, then suddenly, in the middle-late 90s, EVERYTHING became acceptable. Leather, bell-bottoms, big hair, MULLETS, stonewash.... They are everywhere now.

[Despare]

I guess it's not a big change but I can't stand those little rollerskate shoes. Whenever I see a little kid glide by me I think two things. The first being that I could just stick my arm out and make him be more careful around people. The second being a quote from Friends.

"Kids! Roll your way to childhood obesity!"

[The Flayed One]

Christmas/birthdays are two more big ones for me. When I was little, me and my cousins would start immediately playing with toys and being as noisy as we could once they were unwrapped. Now at Christmas, there were 9 children there last year 10 or under. Once the gifts were unwrapped, they all sat down quietly on the couch with their handhelds & quitly played video games. No interaction between each other at all.

[urgeok]

Something i thinkis funny is how styles have been changing for decades, with each having a few distinct looks, then suddenly, in the middle-late 90s, EVERYTHING became acceptable. Leather, bell-bottoms, big hair, MULLETS, stonewash.... They are everywhere now.


there is a very distinct style of the last 10 years .. the goatee ..
every other guy has a goatee.

and the close cropped hair .. not a crewcut - 1 stage longer.

in hollywood if you are behind the camera you have crazy ass long hair .. if you are in front of it its that short cut - with a goatee.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Christmas/birthdays are two more big ones for me. When I was little, me and my cousins would start immediately playing with toys and being as noisy as we could once they were unwrapped. Now at Christmas, there were 9 children there last year 10 or under. Once the gifts were unwrapped, they all sat down quietly on the couch with their handhelds & quitly played video games. No interaction between each other at all.

hand held? my aunt wishes I got him a hand held!

When I buy gifts for my little cousins I always buy the loudest, most annoying toys. Last year I got this "space" rocker with lights that makes space ship sounds when you rock on it. :cool:

[neverending]

When I was young a doctor would come to your house if you were sick.

We had a thing called a milkbox at the front door. You put your empty (glass) milk bottles in it and the milkman would come in his truck, take the empties and leave you fresh milk.

Halloween was a time when kids escaped from parents and went carousing by themselves, connecting with their inner demon.

There was a neighborhood theatre that showed a weekly "kiddie mattinee" on the weekends- showed a double feature (quite often 2 horror movies), cartoons, old serials, newsreels, and gave away prizes! All for $1.25.

Comic books were 12 cents and were fun to read.

Radio stations played everything from Frank Sinatra and Peggy Lee to Led Zepplin and Johnny Cash - on the same station.

[Vodstok]

there is a very distinct style of the last 10 years .. the goatee ..
every other guy has a goatee.

and the close cropped hair .. not a crewcut - 1 stage longer.

in hollywood if you are behind the camera you have crazy ass long hair .. if you are in front of it its that short cut - with a goatee.

Hey....


I actually had noticed this too. Notice how suddenly everyone in the 1800s, 1700s, 1600s.... In movies suddenly started sporting them?

I have one for one simple reason: The wife likes it. It itches, i have a weird compulsion to tug at it constanly, shaving around it without screwing up the edges is a bitch, but she finds me more attractive with it, so it aint going anywhere.

I have nice SHORT hair, because i am lazy and i cant get the above mentioned wife to agree to me just shaving my head.

[The Flayed One]

hand held? my aunt wishes I got him a hand held!

When I buy gifts for my little cousins I always buy the loudest, most annoying toys. Last year I got this "space" rocker with lights that makes space ship sounds when you rock on it. :cool:


Nice:cool:

That's what I always do. I go down the kids list. Video game, video game, video game, clothes (obviously mom put that there)....


Aha! SuperSonic Nerf Rocket Launcher that shoots 200 rounds a second and sounds like Hiroshima. There ya go, ya little bastard! Go break something like kids should!

[urgeok]

We had a thing called a milkbox at the front door. You put your empty (glass) milk bottles in it and the milkman would come in his truck, take the empties and leave you fresh milk.

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some houses have that little door built into the side of the house leading to a little compartment where they could put the bottles without going outside..
i still see them on the older houses.

and you hit on something else ... when we were kids - at 5 years of age we'd go and play in the neighbourhood park by ourselves... shit you'll never see that again.

[Roderick Usher]

1) I still cant get my head around how swiftly the internet rendered most reference books obsolete. You cant even give encyclopedias away anymore.
Dictionaries, Thesaurus, all found online. I dig the practicality but at the same time it makes me a little sad ... i remember early schooling activities where we had contests to see who could find a certain word first in the dictionary.
I remember how much i loved the old science and nature Time-Life series of books (which i still have and will always keep) but i doubt my son will look at them much longer. No more door to door encyclopedia salesmen ! (ok - i guess it's not all bad)

2) When you sent your kids to school with lunch - and on those odd days you didnt have (or they didnt want) balony, etc, for their sandwich - the old school standby was peanut butter and jam sammies.
Now - you cant take peanut butter to school so you dont kill someones kid.
Death by sandwich. you cant tale anything with peanuts - or any other nuts in them. boys are forced to wear hermetically sealed asbestos underwear !!
They're taking no chances !

they dont even want you eating it at home before school incase you have trace amounts on your hands, etc..


I dont remember s single solitary kid having a peanut allergy when i was a kid .. whats going on ??!!


I think of some more later .. i'm not thinking things so obvious as the CD/DVD and the generation who never knew any differently .. i'm thinking of the wierder more subtle changes i've seen.


My kid's class has a big ol unabridged dictionary (he told me he looked up "penis, vagina, shit and sex" the other day)

AND

I pack him a PBJ almost every day

[urgeok]

Hey....


I actually had noticed this too. Notice how suddenly everyone in the 1800s, 1700s, 1600s.... In movies suddenly started sporting them?

I have one for one simple reason: The wife likes it. It itches, i have a weird compulsion to tug at it constanly, shaving around it without screwing up the edges is a bitch, but she finds me more attractive with it, so it aint going anywhere.

I have nice SHORT hair, because i am lazy and i cant get the above mentioned wife to agree to me just shaving my head.



the artistic comunity dictate the fashion standards - always have.
actors/musicians are portrayed as cool .. the people YOU want to be...
so people will try to look like them.

this has been going on since forever.

lately the trends are lasting longer ... we already went through the cycle of 50's, 60's 70's 80's, then back to 50's, 60's 70's 80's .. the 90's and 2000s show signs that people are getting tired of reinventing themselves .. i just dont think there's any interest in rehashing the cycle again so we settled on safe chic or urban for style.. then there are the rest of us that dont really follow trends...

trends are really only followed in the major centres anyway - mostly the very socialite downtown crowd. there are always exceptions in the smaller towns ... but hardly any..

[urgeok]

I pack him a PBJ almost every day



my kid would get sent home.



ps .. give the kid some variety 'super dad' !

:p

[Vodstok]

I HATE PBJ. I know, i accepted long ago that i am a freak. i also dont like baloney and cheese.

[urgeok]

i dont like BBJ on bread - but i LOVE it on toast !

melted peanut butter ... mmmmmmmm

[kpropain]

I usually send my kid to school with a club sand. which he really likes but occasionally if I'm out of ham or turkey or something and in a rush I'll make him a PB&J, there's never been any kind of peanut problem at his school...

[kpropain]

i dont like BBJ on bread - but i LOVE it on toast !

melted peanut butter ... mmmmmmmm

You aren't the only one, I love pb&j's like that...

[Vodstok]

Peanut butter on toast is good, but the additoon of jelly, jam, whatever fruityness, just turns my stomach.

However, i like drinkign coronas with lime while eating a MR Goodbar. Odd combo, great pairing.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Peanut butter on toast is good, but the additoon of jelly, jam, whatever fruityness, just turns my stomach.



What about peanut Butter and banana?

[The STE]

there is a very distinct style of the last 10 years .. the goatee ..
every other guy has a goatee.

and the close cropped hair .. not a crewcut - 1 stage longer.

in hollywood if you are behind the camera you have crazy ass long hair .. if you are in front of it its that short cut - with a goatee.

I dunno about the close cropped hair, but the style I see a lot is the messy gelled style where it's supposed to look like they just got out of bed and didn't comb their hair, but you know they styled it like that.

[urgeok]

we never eat jelly ... not many people do up here - its mostly jam.

peanut butter and strawberry jam is tops..

but i also love paenut butter and corn syrup (its heavier than honey so it doesnt run off the toast as much) but it drives my wife nuts because she cooks with it.

[Vodstok]

What about peanut Butter and banana?

That IS a good combo... especially with the introduction of chocolate.

[urgeok]

What about peanut Butter and banana?

its good if you slice the banana really thin .. otherwise you look like a dog eating a peanut butter sandwich .. 'ack, ack, ack

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

lmao I just cut 4 big pieces and put them in.

[urgeok]

lmao I just cut 4 big pieces and put them in.


keep the phone close with 911 already dialed :)

[neverending]

When I was a kid my mother took me to a fancy restaraunt and I ordered a peanut butter and banana sandwich- which thoroughly embarressed my mother. Hey- it was on the menu!

[Vodstok]

When I was a kid my mother took me to a fancy restaraunt and I ordered a peanut butter and banana sandwich- which thoroughly embarressed my mother. Hey- it was on the menu!

During Mardi Gras in 2000, my freinds and I were in a restaurant on Bourbon Street, and i ordered a cheeseburger. I wanted a damn cheeseburger, i had been eating cultural food for 4 days straight just wanted some beef.

my freinds got all embarrased, but the waiter was cool about it. he stood there and smiled. my friends said "He's kidding..." The waiter said "I know, Im waiting for his real order."

i caved and had fried catfish. it was good, almost worth the $19 i paid for it... (the fucking cheeseburger was $5....)


then my friends proceed to bitch about the quality of their meals (crawfish for one, something with hushpuppies for the other), and dropped $7 a pint for guinness. i spent significantly less on corona.

they were going to stiff the waiter a decen ttip because the food was sub-standard fro the most part and the drinks way over priced, but i told them if i was cornered into spending 4 times what i was going to for a meal, they were sure as hell goingto leave hima good tip, he was great waiter.

in the end, i think the meal came to $90 and we left him a $35 tip.

[Phalanx]

Just thought of one...the fondue craze...that pretty much blew right up HUGELY, then just blew on out.
I know there's atill places that do it though...god knows, it's easy enough and (now) cheap enough to simply buy your own setup.

While still on food...
The widespread acceptance of "sushi", of all styles. I have always loved it myself, but I remember a time where the stores were few and far between here, where every second person would say "ew, raw fish" if you so much as mentioned it. I guess word of mouth eventually worked for this one.

The cell/mobile phone revolution, now they're almost considered "neccessity" by (I'd say) 90%+ of people. Still don't like 'em much myself.

One that's underway at the moment, that I personally consider pretty "big", is the gradual phasing out/banning of public smoking. It's a smart move...IMO a lot of smokers simply aren't respectful enough about it, I accept that they're spoiling their health, cool...but they don't tend to look outside and see the damage it does others, or don't acknowledge it anyhow. But yeah, I think this is one of those "big changes" I'll live to see.

[urgeok]

kids tying shoes ...

its all velcro now ... they dont have to go through that onerous rite of passage anymore until they are old enough to have more dexterous fingers.

i stopped to think how much of a negative imact this might have and couldnt think of one ... unless your kid was planning on becoming a professional present wrapper or a shoe salesman.

[Despare]

Fondu... The Melting Pot... mmmmmmmmm.

[Vodstok]

One that's underway at the moment, that I personally consider pretty "big", is the gradual phasing out/banning of public smoking. It's a smart move...IMO a lot of smokers simply aren't respectful enough about it, I accept that they're spoiling their health, cool...but they don't tend to look outside and see the damage it does others, or don't acknowledge it anyhow. But yeah, I think this is one of those "big changes" I'll live to see.

I HATE people who stand 2 feet from an entrance and smoke. Fucking inconsiderate as hell. I smoked for the better part of 10 years and was very concious of others when i was smoking. I wasted entire cigarrettes making sure i wasnt smoking around little kids and babies.

By the same token, I hate the pseudo-hippie "truth.com" anti-smoking adds. For one thing, they are all staged.... The "Fake-reality" thing is REALLY old now. And really, are they sharing any NEW information? "Cigarrettes are bad for you! The tobacco companies lied!"


"AND?"

[neverending]

Ew- raw fish!

I finally got a cell phone this year because it was required when I made a supervisor at work. I tend to view the damn things they way Bradbury did in his extremely prophetic story "The Murderer."

You may be right about the public smoking thing!

[neverending]

Learning to tell time on an "analog" clock!

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

During Mardi Gras in 2000, my freinds and I were in a restaurant on Bourbon Street, and i ordered a cheeseburger. I wanted a damn cheeseburger, i had been eating cultural food for 4 days straight just wanted some beef.

my freinds got all embarrased, but the waiter was cool about it. he stood there and smiled. my friends said "He's kidding..." The waiter said "I know, Im waiting for his real order."

i caved and had fried catfish. it was good, almost worth the $19 i paid for it... (the fucking cheeseburger was $5....)


then my friends proceed to bitch about the quality of their meals (crawfish for one, something with hushpuppies for the other), and dropped $7 a pint for guinness. i spent significantly less on corona.

they were going to stiff the waiter a decen ttip because the food was sub-standard fro the most part and the drinks way over priced, but i told them if i was cornered into spending 4 times what i was going to for a meal, they were sure as hell goingto leave hima good tip, he was great waiter.

in the end, i think the meal came to $90 and we left him a $35 tip.

:cool:

I worked at a really fancy restaurant and the only things kids could ever order was the cheeseburger, the menu was pretty limited. One time this husband and wife were ordering their main course and the woman's husband ordered a cheeseburger. She was like "Don't get a cheeseburger!" and she smiled at me as if to say "my husband is a moron, suggest something we can't eat at home" and I was like "The cheeseburger is delicious! How would you like it done?" I knew he would have eventually would have ordered something different and hated it if I didn't say that. Also I'm busy damn. :p

the cheeseburger was 17$ btw haha

[The Flayed One]

One that's underway at the moment, that I personally consider pretty "big", is the gradual phasing out/banning of public smoking. It's a smart move...IMO a lot of smokers simply aren't respectful enough about it, I accept that they're spoiling their health, cool...but they don't tend to look outside and see the damage it does others, or don't acknowledge it anyhow. But yeah, I think this is one of those "big changes" I'll live to see.


Yeah, I'm a smoker and I'm cool with it. If I have to smoke inside that bad, I'll join a private club that allows it. There are a lot of polite smokers (I consider myself to be one) who go out of their way to do things like put out their cigs & deposit the butts in receptacles, try the best they can to stand downwind from non smokers. When I'm waiting for a bus and lite up, I stand as far away from everyone as I can as to not be rude.

There's no way everyone can be taught these few simple rules of courtesy, so it probably needs to be done. When I visited my friend in Santa Monica, it was already in place. It was obnoxious at first, but I adjusted to it pretty quick.

[Phalanx]

I HATE people who stand 2 feet from an entrance and smoke. Fucking inconsiderate as hell. My biggest beef is the ones that either
a: snub one out right before getting on a train, and sit near you...like seriously, I know smoking fucks with your sense of taste and smell, but throw back a mint ferchrists sake, you pay the ridiculous (financial and physical) price for the habit, what's a pack of gum on top of that?
b: Again, with trains...the ones that stand at the door like they can't wait to get out, then light up as soon as the doors open, in front of like everyone.
Other than the times I have to inhale their habit myself, I don't much care about smokers...they're aware of the risks, it's their choice.


You may be right about the public smoking thing!
Well, yeah...society is becoming more actively health conscious at large, and I think it's only a matter of time before it happens...I consider it a pretty big "event" considering how widespread smoking is.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

My biggest beef is the ones that either
a: snub one out right before getting on a train, and sit near you...like seriously, I know smoking fucks with your sense of taste and smell, but throw back a mint ferchrists sake, you pay the ridiculous (financial and physical) price for the habit, what's a pack of gum on top of that?


wow, what a whiner.

2nd hand smoke is overrated, the polluted air you're breathing every second of the day does more damage than a few minutes of breathing second hand smoke from a smoker 10-20 feet away. You're just talking about someone who was smoking then sits beside you? give me a break. :rolleyes:

[Phalanx]

I'd say the whole AIDS epidemic thing would be a contender for the top5 up in here...While nobody seems sure of the exact point of time in which it STARTED, it was (as I recall) sometime in the 80's that the world became aware of how truly big it was. The panic, the confusion, the association...definately changed things.

[Despare]

2nd hand smoke is overrated, the polluted air you're breathing every second of the day does more damage than a few minutes of breathing second hand smoke from a smoker 10-20 feet away. You're just talking about someone who was smoking then sits beside you? give me a break. :rolleyes:

I quit smoking about 3 years ago and I love the smell of second hand smoke. I agree that banning it inside places is ok but outside you should be able to smoke like a chimney.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

I'd say the whole AIDS epidemic thing would be a contender for the top5 up in here...While nobody seems sure of the exact point of time in which it STARTED, it was (as I recall) sometime in the 80's that the world became aware of how truly big it was. The panic, the confusion, the association...definately changed things.

How old are you again?

I quit smoking about 3 years ago and I love the smell of second hand smoke. I agree that banning it inside places is ok but outside you should be able to smoke like a chimney.

agreed.

give em an inch, they want a mile.

[Vodstok]

wow, what a whiner.

2nd hand smoke is overrated, the polluted air you're breathing every second of the day does more damage than a few minutes of breathing second hand smoke from a smoker 10-20 feet away. You're just talking about someone who was smoking then sits beside you? give me a break. :rolleyes:

Its not very different from someone never bathing sitting right next to you. Do wahtever the fuck you want with your life, but dont infringe on other people's right to not have to deal with your stinky ass.

In a lot of regards, it has less to do with health and more to do with people just being stupid, inconsiderate dickheads.

[Roderick Usher]

Urge, you failed to mention

indoor plumbing
The Steam Engine
Pasteurization
The movable type printing press


ha...you're old

[PR3SSUR3]

I'm also sceptical about the nuts thing, and would go so far as to say many people claiming they have an anaphylaxis are just being fashionable, attention seeking and jumping to convenient conclusions... often transferrable to their kids, because eating nuts must have been the reasons for their illnesses and strange behaviour.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

ha...you're old

LMAO! :D

-

[Vodstok]

Urge, you failed to mention

indoor plumbing
The Steam Engine
Pasteurization
The movable type printing press


ha...you're old

Hey, he's getting senile. He also forgot:

The aqueduct
Astrolabes
Wheels
Fire
Clubs
Straw (used for collecting delicious termites)

[urgeok]

Urge, you failed to mention

indoor plumbing
The Steam Engine
Pasteurization
The movable type printing press


ha...you're old

when did we get a moveable type printing press ? :confused:

[urgeok]

I'm also sceptical about the nuts thing, and would go so far as to say many people claiming they have an anaphylaxis are just being fashionable, attention seeking and jumping to convenient conclusions... often transferrable to their kids, because eating nuts must have been the reasons for their illnesses and strange behaviour.


apparently - by their own admission - eating nuts is perfectly normal behaviour in Vod and Rod's world

usual side effects .. hair caught in the throat..


:D

[kpropain]

Urge, you failed to mention

indoor plumbing
The Steam Engine
Pasteurization
The movable type printing press


ha...you're old


Don't forget the invention of the automobile...

I'm sure that was a lot better than him riding around in that horse drawn carriage all the time...:D

[Vodstok]

Cashews...
Walnuts...
Peanuts...
Hazelnuts....


yep, i eat them all. Good stuff.


Why, what are you trying to imply?

[Roderick Usher]

when did we get a moveable type printing press ? :confused:

1450 - Johannes Gutenberg

[Phalanx]

I think the cervical cancer vaccine that's right around the corner will be a big 'un. Actually...cancer, it's one of those things that's just about fixed...I mean, don't get me wrong, it's still a big bad motherfucker, but the current rate of advancement in treatment/management is huge.

Just remembered...97 or 98? HongKong being handed back by the british...surely not as significant for us, as it was for them.

[urgeok]

1450 - Johannes Gutenberg


i was out of town at a witch burning that week ..

[Vodstok]

I think the cervical cancer vaccine that's right around the corner will be a big 'un. Actually...cancer, it's one of those things that's just about fixed...I mean, don't get me wrong, it's still a big bad motherfucker, but the current rate of advancement in treatment/management is huge.

Just remembered...97 or 98? HongKong being handed back by the british...surely not as significant for us, as it was for them.

Both biggies, definately. I felt really bad for hong kong...

And having a wife and a daughter, the cervical cancer vaccine is really exciting news.


i was out of town at a witch burning that week ..

LOL! thats just funny. Careful, Haunted may kick your butt.

[Phalanx]

I guess the capture of Saddam, and everything that's gone in in Iraq since is a change...for the better or worse, I'm really not sure...

[newb]

Damn....many changes in my life. Anybody remember rotary phones...you put your finger in the dial and move it.

I would listen to music on Records or [gasp] 8-tracks [the stupidest music format to date ].

3 channels on the TV and I would have to get off my ass to change the channel.

1st man on the moon.

Portable car phones came around when I was a teen.....but they were just for the rich and were huge and stationary.

CGI...........never heard of it....monsters wore a suit....with a zipper.

You could have sex with anybody....but watch out for the dreaded VD.......then you would have to get a couple of shots and you were all better.




fuck......i'm old

[Roderick Usher]

fuck......i'm old


Thank god for the advancements in hip-replacement surgery and adult diapers

[newb]

Thank god for the advancements in hip-replacement surgery and adult diapers

I almost could have used the diapers in Florida.

[urgeok]

or [gasp] 8-tracks [the stupidest music format to date ].




yes .... but did you know that there is a version of pigs on the wing (from pink floyds's animals) that is extended and was only available on 8-track ?

i think it recently became available on someone's solo album .. but its hard to find.

at least i'm pretty sure it's pigs on the wing..

[Vodstok]

Thank god for the advancements in hip-replacement surgery and adult diapers

keep pickin' buddy... You arent too far away from urge and newb...

i recall a "when i was 35" comment the other day...


Back on topic though. Anyone remember parachute pants?

[PR3SSUR3]

Just remembered...97 or 98? HongKong being handed back by the british...surely not as significant for us, as it was for them

But we'll never fully hand Australia back, because the bladdy galahs would end up in a roight bladdy mess.

:D

[urgeok]

keep pickin' buddy... You arent too far away from urge and newb...




its time to start looking for another giant squid picture to post !

[Roderick Usher]

keep pickin' buddy... You arent too far away from urge and newb...



But you'll always be older:)

At least until the sweet release of death

[Vodstok]

But we'll never fully hand Australia back, because the bladdy galahs would end up in a roight bladdy mess.

:D

HAHA!

I read that in Steve Irwin's voice...

[kpropain]

1st man on the moon.




I think it's funny that people still debate if that really happened...

[Despare]

I guess the capture of Saddam, and everything that's gone in in Iraq since is a change...for the better or worse, I'm really not sure...

More schools, women can learn, more vaccines...
Death, destruction, chaos...

Eventually I think it will get better.

Television tech has really amazed me. DVDs and CDs really took the place of cassettes and VHS too. Just the amount of media we have access to now is staggering. Because of news sites so many people have read so many conflicting articles on different things and it seems like everybody is now a political activist. So much information and so little truth. Fast food and coffee shops are EVERYWHERE now. What they're allowed to show on television is amazing. Broadband over dialup. Internet businesses. Car tech is incredible too. Do we really need two DVD players, surround sound, and a guidance system in our vehicles? What about subs in cars, seems like half the people I know don't know that treble exists and lyrics, well who needs those if you have thundering bass? I don't know, just some rambling, a lot has changed, probably the only thing that hasn't is the amount that people complain.

[newb]

I think it's funny that people still debate if that really happened...

Wasn't OJ in that movie?

[The Flayed One]

keep pickin' buddy... You arent too far away from urge and newb...

i recall a "when i was 35" comment the other day...


Back on topic though. Anyone remember parachute pants?

No. And I certainly didn't wear them. Especially not with a red and black Sergio Valente jacket.

[urgeok]

the whole Hong Kong thing turned out to be a fairly transparent move..
China knew better than to cut off their nose to spite their face and let it be ..

a lot of people who came to canada in fear of the worst went back once they found there were really no negative changes.

[kpropain]

Back on topic though. Anyone remember parachute pants?


Hell yeah I used to sport em all the time back in the 80's lol

[urgeok]

Wasn't OJ in that movie?


yep, capricorn one....

[urgeok]

Hell yeah I used to sport em all the time back in the 80's lol


i was old (OLD OLD OLD) enough to just shake my head at that one when it made a not brief enough appearance.


it didnt look good on Hammer ... what made you think it would look good on you ! :eek:

[Roderick Usher]

yep, capricorn one....
Now THAT'S a movie I wouldn't mind seeing remade...with better actors and effects it could be really cool.

[Vodstok]

I don't know, just some rambling, a lot has changed, probably the only thing that hasn't is the amount that people complain.

Sure it has. its increased. the internet now lets poepl ebitch to ANYONE.


Some things about the internet have changed dramatically already.


Remember when a new show or movie would be comingout, companies would drop ridiculous amounts of money on flashy, almost impossible to navigate websites that required the newest version of flash, and offered screenshots, wallpapers and screensavers?

Now, even Fox... FUCKING FOX has a damn myspace page for new shows.... Why spend a little bit of money (relatively speaking) when you can do it for free....

[Despare]

Sure it has. its increased. the internet now lets poepl ebitch to ANYONE.

Still the same amount of complaining, there's just a bigger audience now. :)

[urgeok]

Sure it has. its increased. the internet now lets poepl ebitch to ANYONE.

..

your first appropriate typo : ebitch :)

or eBITCH (bitching on the internet)

[Vodstok]

That reminds me.. i remember reading that there were 4 Billion people on earth... now there are almost 7 Billion! and a third of them live in China and India!

[kpropain]

i was old (OLD OLD OLD) enough to just shake my head at that one when it made a not brief enough appearance.


it didnt look good on Hammer ... what made you think it would look good on you ! :eek:

LOL hell hammer wasn't even out when parachute pants first came out...

Hell I was a kid, I didn't care...

[urgeok]

That reminds me.. i remember reading that there were 4 Billion people on earth... now there are almost 7 Billion! and a third of them live in China and India!



give Vod a big bottle of BBQ sauce and some running shoes and he'd have that problem licked in a day or two..

[VampiricClown]

The Pizza Hut sign....

[Phalanx]

2001 - The fall of Sega:(
While it's some small consolation that Sega DOES still make games (for nintendo, no less), things just don't feel right knowing that there won't be any more Sega consoles...

[stubbornforgey]

when i went to school...typewriters did not have small t.v screens attatched

Pot was something you cooked in
grass was something you mowed
we said goodmorning ..not .yo' hows it hangin'?
we understood the lyrics to the songs
fuck was a word that got slapped ..then washed out of your mouth.
we neva wrte lyke tis'
when we danced...we didn't look like spastics
spastic was about as handicapped as anyone could get
it was safe to eat anything without getting cancer or some kind of un prouncable disease.
what the hell is vitamans A.B. AND C?
sex was confined to the bedroom
no kissing and telling
the most porn we saw was donald duck who had no pants on.
girls were sexy regardless
boys always had pimples and lots of hair cream.
'sigh'....................
and i was born in the 70's :o

[Vodstok]

give Vod a big bottle of BBQ sauce and some running shoes and he'd have that problem licked in a day or two..

Make it frank's red hot sauce. Ive been on a big "Buffalo" kick these days....

Some Bleu Cheese and hotsauce, ill have india down to a cool mil in a year.

[VampiricClown]

2001 - The fall of Sega:(
While it's some small consolation that Sega DOES still make games (for nintendo, no less), things just don't feel right knowing that there won't be any more Sega consoles...

Oh wow...That was a big thing to me when it happened. The original Sega Genesis was a large part of my childhood.

[newb]

another big change......this guy use to be funny.








http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/kramer027.jpg

[Vodstok]

another big change......this guy use to be funny.








http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/kramer027.jpg

Did oyu hear his apology on Letterman? Jesus chrsit, how akward... it almost hurt to listen too. he sounded liek a kid having to explain to his parents in front of the prinicpal why he felt the need to throw a rock through a window and callhis teacher a fat bitch.

[stubbornforgey]

another big change......this guy use to be funny.








http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/kramer027.jpg

didja hear he abused the blacks in the audeince last night
cos they said he wasn't funny !!!didja.. ?:eek:

[stygianwitch]

landing on the moon has to be the biggie....

but who besides me remembers what computers were like way back when? they were just dumb terminals the size of a dining table and everyone worked off the mainframe.... and that took up a warehouse :eek: and absolutely no-one had a home computer, now we have palmheld devices that double as mobile phones... triple as digital cameras... quadruple as mp3 players.... the list goes on

oh, and home servers are now no bigger than a regular pc and the warehouse is now used to store a thousand of 'em

technology is advancing so fast that a pc is obsolete by the time it hits the store

[Phalanx]

Oh wow...That was a big thing to me when it happened. The original Sega Genesis was a large part of my childhood.
Yup...couldn't believe it when I read the announcement that they will "never again make any new hardware"....maybe just maybe they'll make enough money through their nintendo projects to TRY again in the future, but it seems like they've settles into the role pretty well...a shame it is...I was with them master system through dreamcast...RIP.

didja hear he abused the blacks in the audeince last night
cos they said he wasn't funny !!!didja..
Yeah, saw the footage...just looked like he was going nuts, in a really stupid unfunny way "they're niggers, get em outta here! niggers! fucking niggers!"...repeated about 10 times. Guess the fact he's a has-been finally caught up with him...angry lad.

[stubbornforgey]

Wide screen t.v's
'shakes her head..ugly i say'

[Vodstok]

didja hear he abused the blacks in the audeince last night
cos they said he wasn't funny !!!didja.. ?:eek:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8044789871599060390&q=michael+richards&hl=en


With a few tweaks, he could have pulled it off without coming off as an asshole.... He wouldnt stop though...

Apparently... the guys he went off on had been causing shit for two days at that place, so he SHOULD have said something, but... godamn...

If he had said "Whoops, i guess that was too far." and continuedon with his act,i bet no one would have paid attention...

[urgeok]

but who besides me remembers what computers were like way back when? they were just dumb terminals the size of a dining table and everyone worked off the mainframe....


that would be me :o


my first real job was acomputer operator on a mainframe

[stubbornforgey]

ooooooooooh ouch!!
he's appearing on lettermans show to apologise ..LOL

but i mean ..be fair.
the dude was being heckled..

I actually thought george is the funnyman on seinfeld..
i love watching george. :D

[Vodstok]

I didnt have a computer job until 2001 :)


My printed copy of my "resume" (a list of crap i could do on a computer) was lost, so i had my first interview for a helpdesk position over a handwritten list of skills. On Notebook paper. in 2 colors of ink and pencil.



Not only did i get the job, i set an IT department record for fast promotions and multiple raises in years where most people were lucky to see 2% and not get canned.

Now i work a job where about 80% of the peopel around me are mainframe programmers. weird.

[stubbornforgey]

I didnt have a computer job until 2001 :)


My printed copy of my "resume" (a list of crap i could do on a computer) was lost, so i had my first interview for a helpdesk position over a handwritten list of skills. On Notebook paper. in 2 colors of ink and pencil.



Not only did i get the job, i set an IT department record for fast promotions and multiple raises in years where most people were lucky to see 2% and not get canned.

Now i work a job where about 80% of the peopel around me are mainframe programmers. weird.


good..you can be my 1st millionaire friend..
i need another 19 :o

[Vodstok]

good..you can be my 1st millionaire friend..
i need another 19 :o

Hah! How's this, once i have a billion, ill send you a check for a million.

[stubbornforgey]

Hah! How's this, once i have a billion, ill send you a check for a million.


ok..em not greedy
but when you make your 1st billion..
you can be all my 20 bestfreinds :D

[Vodstok]

ok..em not greedy
but when you make your 1st billion..
you can be all my 20 bestfreinds :D

:)







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[neverending]

Not until page 7 did someone mention VHS, CDs and DVDs- yet those were pretty big things.

I remember every year it was a big event to watch Wizard of Oz on TV because that's the only way you could see it. Sometimes old films would get rereleased.

Now we have the DVD collector's industry. Eventually everything will get released- some way or another.

It's an amazing thing!


On another front- when I was young you didn't spit in public. It just wasn't done. Now there are goobers everywhere I go, and people spitting left and right. It makes me gag.

[Phalanx]

On another front- when I was young you didn't spit in public. It just wasn't done. Now there are goobers everywhere I go, and people spitting left and right. It makes me gag.
Fucking filthy habit...I'll do it only if neccesary, and even then, not around a bunch of people, into a bin or the gutter...I've seen people jst spit allover footpaths and walls...feel like grabbing them by the hair and rubbing their face in it.

[stubbornforgey]

Fucking filthy habit...I'll do it only if neccesary, and even then, not around a bunch of people, into a bin or the gutter...I've seen people jst spit allover footpaths and walls...feel like grabbing them by the hair and rubbing their face in it.


my 1st job as a waitress in town at the bus terminal
fuck..eww...ppl leaving spit in thier saucers n ashtrays.

[Elvis_Christ]

The Extinction of Dinosaurs
Fire
The telephone
Running water
Sliced Bread
WW II

:p
hahaha

[The STE]

iPods. To me they've made CDs almost completely obsolite. I'll still keep CDs around until we have cars with iPod hookups, but I hardly ever use them for listening to music anymore

[Elvis_Christ]

No way MP3s are about the shittest format for music. They sound terrible.

Plus no artwork, ect.

[Despare]

No way MP3s are about the shittest format for music. They sound terrible.

Plus no artwork, ect.

MP3s can have a bitrate equal to CD but then it becomes a larger file. It's funny when I make CDs, some songs can't be found with a good br so one or two songs on the cd sounds like ass. Ah well. Still quick, easy, and free (:eek: ).

[Elvis_Christ]

iPODs are for trendy assholes. Its bad enough I have a cellphone. One of those things would make me look like a complete yuppie douche

[kpropain]

No way MP3s are about the shittest format for music. They sound terrible.

Plus no artwork, ect.

I'll have to admit, since I first started downloading tunes, I've probably only bought about twenty or so cd's in the past 6 or 7 years...And it's usually cause it's something I can't find online...Mp3 quality can be just as good as CD but like Despare said it usally means a bigger file size, which I don't mind...

I used to burn cd's all the damn time but since I got my ipod that has slowed tremendously, I hardly ever use cd's anymore unless burning them for friends...

And you can get artwork for albums from downloading depending which program you use....

*cough*
SoulSeek
*cough*


:D

[Elvis_Christ]

Yeh I download a bunch of stuff. But I just like having Vinyl/CDs to look at.... haha not that I can afford to buy music latley.
I've got hundreds of burnt CDs

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

iPODs are for trendy assholes. Its bad enough I have a cellphone. One of those things would make me look like a complete yuppie douche

I have a cell phone, it's always off and nobody knows the number though. It's a one-way cell phone. :cool:

[Elvis_Christ]

I have a cell phone, it's always off and nobody knows the number though. It's a one-way cell phone. :cool:

Yeh thats like me. I was one of the last people over here to get and that was only because it was given to me. People seem to be permantley attached to them.....

[orangestar]

I got a generic MP3 player a couple years ago, and I have always been satisfied with it. I don't use it that often, (in my car I listen to CDs) but I've honestly considered getting an iPod because I think they are going to be the next default way to listen to music.

[urgeok]

Not until page 7 did someone mention VHS, CDs and DVDs- yet those were pretty big things.

I remember every year it was a big event to watch Wizard of Oz on TV because that's the only way you could see it. Sometimes old films would get rereleased.

Now we have the DVD collector's industry. Eventually everything will get released- some way or another.

It's an amazing thing!


On another front- when I was young you didn't spit in public. It just wasn't done. Now there are goobers everywhere I go, and people spitting left and right. It makes me gag.


when i origionally started the thread i was really only thinking of the smaller less obvious changes ... more the things that dissapeared because of the new advancements.

but yeah .. DVD .. (or any format of home theatre for that matter)

and MP3s are another huge one ..
and the walkman ... i still remember hearing my 1st walkman (when the only alternative for portable music was a transister radio - or a car radio - and they sounded like shit !)
when my friend let me try his walkman it blew me right out of the wayer ..


i'll never own an ipod simply because at my stage of life i never have the opportunity to wear headphones... cant do it at work - cant do it at home .. cant do it at sports ...

if i was a kid now - and had a tiny device that could hold 60 gigs of music .. i'd frigging love it.

[newb]

iPODs are for trendy assholes. Its bad enough I have a cellphone. One of those things would make me look like a complete yuppie douche

hey Elvis.....did you get an iPod yet ?

[ferretchucker]

I usually resent these old threads having the cobwebs brushed off and pulled out from the archives, but on this occasion...I'm on the edge of my seat in anticipation.

I think it's interesting that even since these last few comments were made, dedicated MP3/4 players are already going out of fashion in favour of simply using phones for the same purpose. With their ever increasing memory, it's hardly surprising, but still! That's convergence for you!

[TheWickerFan]

Why do you resent old threads being resurrected?:confused:

[Fearonsarms]

Why do you resent old threads being resurrected?:confused:

Ditto-not all of us were around at the time of these threads to have our say.What's wrong with new members having their 2cents?

[Elvis_Christ]

hey Elvis.....did you get an iPod yet ?

LOL :D

Nah man I've gone back to buying vinyl in a big way. Guess I've regressed!

[Angra]

LOL :D

Nah man I've gone back to buying vinyl in a big way. Guess I've regressed!


Good for you, old man. Good for you... FIGHT SCIENCE!!!

[ManchestrMorgue]

It is interesting how music recording/playback has shifted over the years.

Vinyl was good quality, but not very convenient or portable (albums were large, weren't very resilient to the elements, and deteriorated by just being played).

Cassettes swapped portability (convenience) for some quality. Although they lost out in convenience by being sequential access (having to fast forward/rewind between tracks).

Then CD's came out and they were hailed as being great for their improved sound quality (although many prefer the warmer and more "analogue" sounds of vinyl), improved durability, they didn't deteriorate no matter how often you played them, and were more portable than vinyl.

So there was a to-and-fro battle with tradeoffs between portability/durability/quality, without any subsequent format wanting to forgo too much of one for any other.

But mp3 has almost completely touted convenience above quality. The first wave of mp3 players used flash for very small capacity players and hard drives for larger capacity, but hard drive players have diminished in importance and again there has been a push for the convenience of flash-based players over larger capacity hard drive players.

Of course, eventually flash memory will be cheap enough to make it viable to use lossless compression for large media libraries, but that is not yet the case. And when this happens, quality will still be an afterthought, as improvement in quality is a byproduct of the technology and not its inherent thrust.

I find these changing priorities interesting.

[TheWickerFan]

I don't get the vinyl vs. CD argument. Vinyl was such a pain! You had to keep the records and the stylus in mint condition or else you would get static and skips. You really have to work hard to damage CDs to the point that they don't play correctly.

As for the iPod, I don't normally take it anywhere. I hook it up to the home theater with the Polk Audio speakers and the Tekkeon to display what it's playing on the TV including the album artwork, and I'm set for the day.:D

[ManchestrMorgue]

I think what people like about vinyl is the analogue sound. Sort of like comparing a valve amplifier with a solid state amp. It somehow sounds warmer and less clinical.

But the inconveniences that you mentioned are very real. A vinyl album deteriorates every time you play it.

Digital media lays down information by, in effect, taking cross-sectional samples. Many thousands of these occur per second for a CD, but you could argue that there is no such thing as a "lossless" digital recording. What is lost between these samples, however miniscule they are?

[crabapple]

I like digital audio in its various forms. No, I love it! And I also love vinyl, I love an old record, and I like the idea that the sound is visibly written into the grooves on the surface. I love spinning those old vinyl discs! It is a blast. I grew up with that and I always feel a connection with it.

[newb]

I like digital audio in its various forms. No, I love it! And I also love vinyl, I love an old record, and I like the idea that the sound is visibly written into the grooves on the surface. I love spinning those old vinyl discs! It is a blast. I grew up with that and I always feel a connection with it.

plus a lot of the album covers we're a work of art. Sometimes the albums themselves.....Grand Funks "We're an American Band" album was yellow..J Geils Band's "Bloodshot" was red. And who could forget the zipper on The Rolling Stones "Sticky Fingers" album cover...or the giant rolling paper in Cheech & Chongs "Big Bambu" album.

[neverending]

Not to mention gatefold albums that would open up to reveal a wealth of information, lyrics and artwork. They really were beautiful. I need a magnifying glass to read the lyrics booklets that come with CDs.

[ManchestrMorgue]

True... one of the reasons (besides the sound quality) that I preferred vinyl over cassettes was the album artwork.

[TheWickerFan]

Cassettes were awful in every respect. Sound quality, rate of deterioration, and ease of use.

[friday13thfan]

Digital Format comes in so many flavors and qualities that it's nearly impossible not find something to make even the biggest audiophile happy. I sadly have never experienced a Vinyl. Yet I have listened to a few 8 Tracks.