The next US President will be...

[bwind22]

http://www.popmatters.com/images/news_art/s/senatorbarackobama.jpg


I just heard this morning that Senator Barrack Obama (Illinois) is considering a run at the Oval Office in '08. Oh please, let this happen!!!!! He is 1 of the 2 politicians in Washington that does not yet seem corrupted by our system! If you've ever heard him speak, you probably noticed a well grounded, well spoken, intelligent young (for a politician) man that really seems to know where HE stands, and not just where his party thinks he should. If the democrats are serious about wanting the White House, this is the man they need to run. Not Hillary, not John Kerry and certainly not any of the lesser known people who's names are floating around... Hillary, Kerry, etc... are too polarized already. They are too far left to pull in the "gray area" voters (That's just a term I use to refer to those of us who vote every election, but hold no political affiliation to any certain party.) Obama is a moderate liberal and a middle of the road democrat and I honestly think that if he runs, he will win. Granted most of America probably hasn't even heard of him yet, let alone hear him speak, but once they do... Well, let me just introduce our next president.

Now, the real icing on this cake will be if the Republicans get their act together too and give us the other middle of the road candidate that hasn't been corrupted by Washington yet.... Norm Coleman (Senator, Minnesota) He used to be a middle of the road Democrat and then switched to middle of the road Republican and that alone should tell you he has no problem standing up to the parties. If we get Coleman vs. Obama in 2008, I might just find myself having some restored faith in our political system because those 2 both actually seem like real people when you hear them. They don't seem like puppets and certainly not like deceitful politicians. They both seem to genuinely want what is best for their constituants and the people of the country and I'd be happy to vote for either...

[Roderick Usher]

I'm torn on this one. Yes I love Obama, but...


Horror thrives under Republican rule. It's part of thier public policy to push fear- and thus, protection. Just look at history...


Eisenhower (R) in the 50s - horror explodes

Kennedy and Johnson (D) in the 60's - horror fades away (or comes from England)

Nixon and Ford (R) in late 60's early 70's - American Indie horror breaks new ground and big budget horror emerges

Carter's (D) term in ther late 70's seems the exception - horror is still present

Reagan & Bush Sr (R) in the 80s - the slasher film explodes

Clinton (D) in the early 90s - the horror film goes out of fashion

Bush Jr (R) late 90s to present - The Biggest push horror has ever seen



My livelyhood my just depend on a Republican regime:mad:

[urgeok]

I cant see a black president being elected in our lifetime.

too many crackers in the US - and people who dont think they are crackers - but are.

the vast majority will always vote in the old rich white guy.

being honest and 'unbuyable' is a strike against anyone too.



very sad but true.

[Vodstok]

Maybe this is the time where a democrat will usher in a brand new era orf Horror movies. Maybe he is a closet horror fan and will get th enational endowment for the arts to start funding horror projects!


A man can dream, cant he?

[urgeok]

closet horror fan !

i'm suprised you guys just dont vote catholic priests into office !

[Vodstok]

I cant see a black president being elected in our lifetime.

too many crackers in the US - and people who dont think they are crackers - but are.

the vast majority will always vote in the old rich white guy.

being honest and 'unbuyable' is a strike against anyone too.



very sad but true.

Funny how much Canadians know about our elections, but how little we know about theres....


What do you have? A leprechaun? Maybe a moose-beaver who drinks maple syrup out of a mounty's hat?


One of these days, the canadians of horror.com are going to launch an attack on me....

[urgeok]

Funny how much Canadians know about our elections, but how little we know about theres....


What do you have? A leprechaun? Maybe a moose-beaver who drinks maple syrup out of a mounty's hat?


One of these days, the canadians of horror.com are going to launch an attack on me....


hardly any canadians know about the canadian elections :)

there hasnt been anyone flamboyant in 'power' here since pierre elliot trudeau,

although we did have this other gnarly french canadian guy who ran over a sleeping drunk with his car.

we've done a pretty good job at seperating church and state so far - but we're seeing a threat of it on the horizon..

re leprechauns ... its too fucking cold for them up here ...

[Vodstok]

hardly any canadians know about the canadian elections :)

there hasnt been anyone flamboyant in 'power' here since pierre elliot trudeau,

although we did have this other gnarly french canadian guy who ran over a sleeping drunk with his car.

we've done a pretty good job at seperating church and state so far - but we're seeing a threat of it on the horizon..

re leprechauns ... its too fucking cold for them up here ...

I thought they were pickled and immune to the cold. You learn something new every day.

[urgeok]

I thought they were pickled and immune to the cold. You learn something new every day.


just because they're green - it doesnt mean they are pickled ..

crazy yank wanker !

[Zero]

i also really like obama - saw him on Charlie Rose the other day and he reminded me of clinton without all the slick-ness but with the charisma and confidence.

that said, i fear its too early for obama who won't even see out his first senate term.

i also fear that the likely republican is a prohibitive favorite - McCain. personally i think mccain is much more right-wing than the general public realizes. . . but lots of democrats i know say they would vote for mccain because he is a 'straight shooter' - whatever that means

[bloodrayne]

being honest and 'unbuyable' is a strike against anyone too.

We were actually discussing this here yesterday...What we decided was:

We will never have a completely honest politician...Why?

Because people don't REALLY want to know the truth...Argue if you like, BUT...We discussed it at length, considered MANY things...So, think about it indepth...No one is perfect and not everyone agrees with everyone else...If ANY politician was simply himself, he would not be accepted by the general majority...An honest person would be ousted pretty damned quick...

Personality aside...What about the issues?...How far do you think a politician would get if he expressed his TRUE feelings on welfare recipients?...Homeless people?...Abortion?...Gay marriage?...and SOOO many other issues?

They are puppets because they HAVE to be...in order to be elected and to stay in office...They HAVE to tell people what they want to hear, or the people won't listen...Think about it...

Hell, people have a problem with ME at times because I'm honest...

[urgeok]

i tink it has to do a lot more with the people who put people into power.
and why.

the lobbyists .. the people who have something to gain (power/financially) by putting a certain person into power.

only a small percentage of people actually understand what is going on politically .. entheusiasts and conspiracy theorists mostly ..

everyone else is uneducated and uninformed other than what they pick up on the news. (scratching the surface at best)
(i'm in this category myself)

this majority of the people vote for who looks like they know what they are doing .. based on what they are told. or they vote based on what the person looks like - the image.

the lobbyists exert a lot of influence. they dont need someone in power they cant buy. they wont financially back them - or back the people who can also provide influence to their cause.

the people who own the oil run the planet. I know this sounds simple and childish .. but there is a a lot of truth there.

[Vodstok]

Oil definately is power. i think we are a long way off from the fusion powered world we would all like. And even then, what does the middle east have to fear? Even if we discoverted a viable, inexpensive inexhaustable power supply tomorrow, theose types of things require a very important product to work:

Plastic. And corn based polymers arent exactly catching on like wildfire yet. And even if those two things came to pass TOMORROW, i garuntee you they would STILL have something of value:

Sand. We are still using silicon chips, and EVEN IF we stopped using them, everything will be (most likely) running on fiver optics and stored in holographic drives or somethign similar, still requiring sand. Which they have a lot of (unfortunately for them, so does everyone else. but everyone seems to have oil too.)

[The Flayed One]

At this point in time, if the Dems put up a half decayed bluegill in a cowboy hat I think I'd vote for it.

I like Obama as well. I was really hoping he'd run. Unfortunately, I think it might still be too early for the first African American president. I hope to hell I'm wrong, but living in the midwest for the last 3 years hasn't done a lot to console me.

[tic]

Has anyone seen this

Death of a president

Channel 4 in the UK have been showing this recently.
It's a fictional account of what would happen if good ol' bush was shot.

Held up by a secret service bodyguard in his dying moments after being shot in the stomach, this is President Bush being assassinated.
Surrounded by a crowd of panicking onlookers, the American leader is pictured just seconds after being gunned down by a sniper following an anti-war demonstration.

But rather than a repeat of JFK's shooting or Ronald Reagan's attempted assassination, this shocking image is part of a new Channel Four show.
The dramatic scene, which has caused outrage among Americans, has been created by a British film company for a programme about the effect of the War On Terror.

In Death Of A President, which will premiere at the Toronto Film Festival later this month (SEPT)before being shown on Channel 4's satellite channel More4 in October, the assassination is a starting point for a retrospective fictional documentary about what happened next.

This scene, which was created by putting the President's face onto an actor with digital wizardry, shows him being gunned down just hours after driving past an anti-war demonstration while doing a talk in Chicago.
The two hour drama, in which events are 're-created' by the use of footage and interviews, shows the media storm around the War on Terror as Muslims are fingered as the culprits before there is any evidence.
In the wake of the assassination, authorities focus on a Syrian-born man in the search for the culprit.

'In the hunt for the killer, this will show how America has been affected by the War on Terror,' said a spokesman. 'It is about the polarisation of America in all the events post 9/11.'

But the drama, which will be shown on Channel 4 after being screened on More4, has angered some Americans who have seen four presidents assassinated while in office.

Eric Staal of Republicans Abroad in London said last night: 'I wonder if they are celebrating the idea that the president could be assassinated. * no I think we all wished * :rolleyes:
'We've seen from early in his presidency the extremes that the political Left are willing to go to vilify him. This takes this vilification to a new and disturbing level.

'It is an appalling way to treat the head of state of another country.'
While a White House spokesman said: 'This does not dignify a comment (sic).'
:D

[bloodrayne]

Unfortunately, I think it might still be too early for the first African American president. And what do you suppose would happen if we DID elect a president who wasn't white and/or male?...Would people believe that he/she was only a token, elected in order to show how progressively diverse we have become?...If so, Would they be correct?

Would he/she feel the unbelievable pressure of being constantly aware that every move they make and every word they speak would be held up to the strongest scrutiny EVER in history, and that they would set an example for every other minority who might ever consider running for President?..Always waiting for the masses to avow "See?...We KNEW that wouldn't work"...And fear that their failure would mean the death of any chance that any minority might ever have thereafter?...Americans (in general) DO have a tendency to attribute the actions of a few, to an entire race, group, gender, etcetera...

Would they be assassinated?...Unfortunately...We (the country as a whole) aren't as 'progressive' as we would like to believe or have the rest of the world think...


Even if someone of another race and/or gender WAS actually given a chance...They would never REALLY be given a chance...

[Haunted]

Obama would be nice. Really nice. I'd like to see a woman in office, but if and only if she had the country's best intrest in mind. It's like when Elizabeth Dole ran for Senate here in NC. A bunch of feminist supported her even though she is so anti women's rights (on most women's rights- to chose, day care, working, etc) that's it's not funny. I don't want some radical right wing female (essentially, what I would consider to be a "tool") in office.

Go ahead and beat me, but Hillary doesn't scare me they way she scares other people. I think she's got a huge set of ovarian power. However, as a human, she has the great potential to fuck up.

[Vodstok]

How history making would that be? the first female president is the wife of a former president...


"Bill, this is my house now, bitch. Go make me some waffles."

[The Flayed One]

Would they be assassinated?...Unfortunately...We (the country as a whole) aren't as 'progressive' as we would like to believe or have the rest of the world think...


Even if someone of another race and/or gender WAS actually given a chance...They would never REALLY be given a chance...

I think Colin Powell stated he believed that the first black president would be assassinated. I'm not sure if that's why he declined to run or not.

[Roderick Usher]

Hillary doesn't scare me they way she scares other people.

My problem with Hillary is that if she were elected Pres, we'd have 2 families running the US for 24-28 years.

'89-'93 George Bush
'93-'01 Bill Clinton
'01-'09 Geoerge Bush Jr.
'09-'13 or even '17 Hillary Clinton?

Seems too much like battling royal families to me. The system was set up to eliminate the Aristocracy, but it seems that's what we're stuck with:mad:

[Burning in Hell]

[QUOTE=urgeok;494230] although we did have this other gnarly french canadian guy who ran over a sleeping drunk with his car. [QUOTE]

That would be René-Levesque, prime minister of Québec from 1976 to 1985. He was a very simple man, did not want to waste money on a driver and used to drive his car by himself. But that incident with the drunk sure put an end to that :p

[bwind22]

Nice replies! A few things I want to touch on though...

1- Obama is not black, he's mulatto (Sp?). His dad is from Africa, his mom is from Kansas.

2- It may be too early for him to run. Initially I had been hoping he'd run in 2012, but recent developments within the democratic party are now pointing to the strong possibility of an '08 run. They are looking for a middle-ground democrat to pull in some of the middle-America vote.

3- McCain is a straight shooter. I would agree with that. He's not afraid to stand up to his party and tell them what he thinks. The problem I have with him is that I don't neccesarily agree with what he thinks.

4- Rod mentioned the mounting Clinton/Bush monarchy we could be looking at if Hillary were to win. Let me take that a step further and propse the issue of Jeb Bush running some time in the future too! We could be looking at up to 36 straight years of having a Clinton or Bush in power. FUCK THAT!



In closing, I really DO think Obama will run in '08, but I am not sure if he will be able to win the democratic primary and get himself in to the race. IF he does get in the race, I could see him winning. America is tired of being at war and I have a feeling whichever democrat gets nominated, will end up winning. On top of the core democrat support he would receive, I think he'd also be able to pull in a large portion of the minority votes (Usually Democratic anyways) as well as a very large portion of the under 35 voters. The under 35 voters could be his key to winning this one. Obama believes that the baby boomers have had their chance in power and now it's time for the next generation to take over (and I, like many of my peers in the under 35 age group) feel exactly the same way. They had their chance, they fucked it up. Step aside and let someone else try.

[Haunted]

My problem with Hillary is that if she were elected Pres, we'd have 2 families running the US for 24-28 years.

'89-'93 George Bush
'93-'01 Bill Clinton
'01-'09 Geoerge Bush Jr.
'09-'13 or even '17 Hillary Clinton?

Seems too much like battling royal families to me. The system was set up to eliminate the Aristocracy, but it seems that's what we're stuck with:mad:

That's an excellent point and taken, especially if Chelsea sticks her nose into politics. In twenty years, she'll be running for office, and climbing that ladder too.

[bwind22]

Don't forget about Jeb Bush. He'll get his turn before Chelsi ever does.

[bwind22]

I'm happy to say it is looking more & more like I am gonna be spot on with this prediction of Obama taking the White House. He's garnering a TON of support online from the 18-35 crowd since officially throwing his name into the hat.


Too bad it's looking like Norm Coleman isn't gonna get the Republican support he'd need. I'm guessing it'll be Obama vs. McCain or Giuliani in 08. I gotta say, in general, that'd be a big step in the right direction. Instead of getting stuck choosing between a flag burning doof & a complete fuckin' idiot, we'll get to choose between the hero of 9/11 (Giuliani) or a well-decorated veteran that has no problem at all speaking up against his own party (McCain) and the guy that embodies the change this country is looking for (Obama).

That's a much better choice to be faced with than 04.

[AUSTIN316426808]

1- Obama is not black, he's mulatto (Sp?). His dad is from Africa, his mom is from Kansas.




Do you honestly think that's what those red states near the bottom of the map are thinking? Not speaking of all of 'em, but sadly, for the most part.

[bwind22]

Obama won't win many states in the south or middle, but I think he can take the north & both coasts.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Obama won't win many states in the south or middle, but I think he can take the north & both coasts.


Lets hope so, as of now, he's got my vote. Being in Louisiana, I don't know how much it'll help. I'm still baffled over that ridiculous electoral college, the loser can actually have more votes than the winner...as smart as they're supposed to be up there on capital hill you'd think they'd have figured out by now that that's pretty damn stupid.

[knife_fight]

I think part of the reason that Kerry failed was that he counted too much on the "youth vote" (the under 35 age group mentioned previously). I live in the South, and Obama has my vote (an under 35 one at that), but he shouldn't count too heavily on a bunch of slackers getting off the couch and "rocking the vote" (anyone remember that pitiful attempt to get gen-X'ers to vote?).

[The Flayed One]

I was watching the news one morning, (Fort Wayne, IN) and they were asking people what they thought about Obama or Hillary. The amazing thing was, the comments went exactly the opposite that I thought they would. People were loving Obama but hating Clinton. NOT because they were against what Hillary was about, but because she's female. They were seriously writing in with comments, trying to state reasons from the bible why she shouldn't be President. It was amazing.

[bwind22]

Hillary Clinton is too polarizing. It'd be a gigantic mistake for the Dems to put her up in my opinion. I wouldn't have a problem with a woman, in general, holding office, but I'd have a real big problem with THAT woman holding it.

And yeah, the electoral college is fuckin' retarded. I live in a state that's notoriously a blue state (When Reagan won 49 out of 50 states in his landslide win, Minnesota was the only one he lost.) but my parents are staunch conservatives. They hit the polls & vote every election but their guy never wins & all of our states votes end up going to someone they oppose. (Which I typically find pretty funny.) People say it's important to vote, but honestly, I can see a lot of cases where it doesn't make a lick of difference.

Right around the 04 elections, it was rumored that Colordao was gonna change how their electoral votes worked. Let's say, for the sake of simplifying this, that Colorado has 10 electoral votes. If 60% of their states voters voted Democrat, 30% republican & 10% for 3rd party candidate, they would give 6 electoral votes to the dems, 3 to the repubs, and 1 to the 3rd party. To me, that's fair. It represents the popular vote & then, even if you know your candidate doesn't stand a chance of winning your state, you don't neccesarily feel like your wasting your time going to vote because you know it will count for something. It never happened though and until it does, we're stuck with the utterly retarded all or nothing system.

[The Flayed One]

We desperately need to do that. It would be a great start to getting into a multi-party system (something I'm in favor of.) If people saw a third party candidate winning some electoral votes, they might actually start to believe that voting for those people ISN'T a complete waste of time.

[bwind22]

We desperately need to do that. It would be a great start to getting into a multi-party system (something I'm in favor of.) If people saw a third party candidate winning some electoral votes, they might actually start to believe that voting for those people ISN'T a complete waste of time.

I couldn't agree more! I'd like to see up to 10-12 candidates each election, all on a level playing field (Same amount of money for campaign, same amount of tv airtime, etc...) and all with a viable chance of winning.




My wife sent an email around about a month ago with a bunch of little things to ponder, one of which was... Why are there over 50 candidates for Miss USA, but only 2 for president? It's a good fuckin' question.

[stubbornforgey]

I couldn't agree more! I'd like to see up to 10-12 candidates each election, all on a level playing field (Same amount of money for campaign, same amount of tv airtime, etc...) and all with a viable chance of winning.




My wife sent an email around about a month ago with a bunch of little things to ponder, one of which was... Why are there over 50 candidates for Miss USA, but only 2 for president? It's a good fuckin' question.


We have government parties over here and its fucken ridiculous..
Labour or National are the only 2 that always win

[Gus]

the next president will be thinking he/she made a mistake for running.
we should force g. bush to stay president till he dies, let him handle his war.

[Posher778]

Sorry, but, full republican all the way. (I even supported Bush)

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Anyone who thinks Hilary Clinton could be president in 2008 lives in fantasy land.

I don't even know who's thinking about running, but I bet some southern good ol boy with a doofy smile wins.

[Angra]

Anyone who thinks Hilary Clinton could be president in 2008 lives in fantasy land.


Oh no, miss Dolly.

We all know it will be you. :)

[The STE]

A lot of the names getting thrown around are people I either don't like or don't care about. Given the people thought to be shoe-ins for running in '08, I don't think there'd be anybody I'd vote for that I'd be voting for because I like them. Maybe McCain or Obama. But, there's one politician that I really want to run for president. And that man is:


http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/05/12/kinky_friedman_narrowweb__300x450,0.jpg
Kinky Friedman

[ferretchucker]

As long as it isn't bush. Oh yeah, IT CANT BE! Here in Britain a head of party can lead the two houses for as long as they want (or they're elected/ the party keep them as the big one.) Look at magie thatcher! She was a nutcase (But still she would be fun to have back) and she was incharge for three terms!

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Oh no, miss Dolly.

We all know it will be you. :)

I'd be more likely to call up Al-Qaida ( القاعدة if you're rod)and be like "You want to really drive fear into the hearts and minds of americans? Make me your leader" Americans would automatically think I was the next Hitler.

it would go down just like that too, with a business call and being openly accepted as leader/figurehead.

too bad they're so set in their ways, I'd love to see everyone crapping themselves if they introduced a female leader. A white female leader would be too much, people would be just start killing themselves knowing how pure evil she must be. :cool:

[Angra]

I'd be more likely to call up Al-Qaida ( القاعدة if you're rod)and be like "You want to really drive fear into the hearts and minds of americans? Make me your leader" Americans would automatically think I was the next Hitler. I might get assassinated but whatev :cool:

it would go down just like that too, with a business call and being openly accepted as leader/figurehead.


You would turn the entire States into Iraq in no time, baby. ;)

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

I'd be cooking up 9/11 times a million :D

anyway enough about my fantasies, back to the real world political crap. :)

[Despare]

I'd hope Obama beat Hill, and Gore in turn beat her. I consider myself a republican and the ONLY shot I think our party has is Julie... doesn't matter they'll all screw us over for the money/power.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

I think Gore will win if he is running. He should be running, is he still really fat?

[bwind22]

He's still fat & he's not interested in running again.

[AUSTIN316426808]

he's not interested in running again.

You put together what he went through the first time and the job Bush is leaving on the table, can you really blame the guy?

[bwind22]

Nope, I don't blame him at all.

Just relaying some info. :)

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

I shouldn't be encouraging you but you're going to be banned tonight or tomorrow so who cares right? In my head, Bill Clinton having an orgasm is the funniest thing ever. If anyone knows of a parody on youtube or something with someone pretending to be Clinton during sex/talking dirty post the link :)

[bwind22]

Why do you say that I will be banned?

Probably because you're a fuckin' retard.

[Angra]

No kidding! Bill Clinton was awesome because deep down all that he really cared about was where and on who he was gonna blow his next load! Lol. Why do you say that I will be banned?


Die clown, die....

[bwind22]

Lol. I highly doubt that there is a such thing as a "fuckin retard" with an IQ of 145. Lol.

Yeah I doubt that too. Too bad your IQ is probably about half that and there certainly is such a thing as a "fuckin' retard" with an IQ of 72.

Dumbass.

[bwind22]

Hey, that guy didn't last too long at all.


Thanks Austin! You da man!

[AUSTIN316426808]

Hey, that guy didn't last too long at all.


Thanks Austin! You da man!

I have no recollection of the event in question.

[bwind22]

I have no recollection of the event in question.

You didn't just ban this ravenclaw dipshit & delete all his posts?


If you didn't, who did? I don't see any other mods on. ???

[AUSTIN316426808]

You didn't just ban this ravenclaw dipshit & delete all his posts?


If you didn't, who did? I don't see any other mods on. ???



I have no recollection of the event in question.
(i'm joking by the way, boredom)

[Angra]

You didn't just ban this ravenclaw dipshit & delete all his posts?


If you didn't, who did? I don't see any other mods on. ???


Invisible mode, remember? ;)

Could be Zwoti or Rayne.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Invisible mode, remember? ;)

Could be Zwoti or Rayne.

You can still see the number of members logged in. Although I think I'm the only person who bothers doing that.

[bwind22]

Well, now I'm confused.


Oh well, I guess I don't need to know which mod banned him, as long as he's gone it's all good.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Well, now I'm confused.


Oh well, I guess I don't need to know which mod banned him, as long as he's gone it's all good.


It was me ya genius.:rolleyes:


:D

[bwind22]

My guess is that he'll return as "MelonFucker'.




Anyone else notice the irony of him trying to pass himself off as having a 145 IQ while at the same trying to sell an "independent movie" of himself fucking a watermelon?

[bwind22]

It was me ya genius.:rolleyes:


:D




Sigh.... Thanks for making it so difficult. haha. I was right the first time and only became confused when you said you had no recollection of what I was talking about. It's okay though... You're still da man for getting rid of that tard!

[Angra]

I think only the mods can use invisible mode now.

[bwind22]

Yeah, I think so too. (Not that I ever used it to begin with.)

[AUSTIN316426808]

I think only the mods can use invisible mode now.


Rightfully so, I get the most retarded PMs you could think of when I'm on.

[Angra]

Rightfully so, I get the most retarded PMs you could think of when I'm on.

Like mine. ;)

[AUSTIN316426808]

Like mine. ;)

No, I'm referring to when the content of the pm is retarded, not when a retarded person sends me one.

[Angra]

No, I'm referring to when the content of the pm is retarded, not when a retarded person sends me one.


WHY YOUeløæjhgøoljakøeoipjufrasdktj0932450238uogin3ij4 tæoi2hærh23ær!!!!




Hrmf!! :mad:

[bwind22]

No, I'm referring to when the content of the pm is retarded, not when a retarded person sends me one.

haha

zing!

[AUSTIN316426808]

do tell...TELL! :)



Well, there was on recently with some noob asking why there's discussion about what deaths are the best. I simply replied..''It's a HORROR forum''. Then he said some crap about how nuts it is to talk about such things and how we all must've been raised wrong and whatnot.

[bwind22]

Well, there was on recently with some noob asking why there's discussion about what deaths are the best. I simply replied..''It's a HORROR forum''. Then he said some crap about how nuts it is to talk about such things and how we all must've been raised wrong and whatnot.

haha. If he can't see the stupidity in his question then he has led a sheltered life & is in fact, the one who was raised wrong. I bet if my 'Predict the next terror attack' thread hadn't been deleted he would have started crying when he saw it. What a pussy.

[Posher778]

haha. If he can't see the stupidity in his question then he has led a sheltered life & is in fact, the one who was raised wrong. I bet if my 'Predict the next terror attack' thread hadn't been deleted he would have started crying when he saw it. What a pussy.

Haha, that made my morning.

[bwind22]

Hahaha


I thought this article was great.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070222/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama

Even former Clinton supporters don't like her. Probably because she's retarded enough to ask Obama to apologize for someone else's (David Geffen) comments.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

haha. If he can't see the stupidity in his question then he has led a sheltered life & is in fact, the one who was raised wrong. I bet if my 'Predict the next terror attack' thread hadn't been deleted he would have started crying when he saw it. What a pussy.

damn, sounded like a good thread. :(

[bwind22]

damn, sounded like a good thread. :(

Yeah, it was a good one. There were several pages of replies too, but then some dumbass threatened the president with assassination in it & AMK deleted the whole thread. :(

[The STE]

Look, how many times do I have to apologize? All I said was that if I happened to be shooting the president anyways I would at least try to get a good shot in, geez.

[bwind22]

Well, that's logical. No sense in half-assin' something.

[Dominion]

Arnold Schwarzenegger will be the president in 2012.

[bwind22]

I'd just like to remind everyone that I called Obama as our next president way back in February of 2007.















That is all. :D

[Dude Guadalupe]

I'd just like to remind everyone that I called Obama as our next president way back in February of 2007.















That is all. :D

Where's your proof?.......................you lie

[bwind22]

Where's your proof?.......................you lie

First post in this thread.

What's up Dude G. How's it goin?

[Dude Guadalupe]

First post in this thread.


I refuse to believe it

:D

[GorePhobia]

Heyo bwind you crazy mofo!

I believe ya and I can't wait until he is the President.

I just hope he can get shit done and fix problems like the economy and the gas prices and all that jazz.

[The Mothman]

I'd just like to remind everyone that I called Obama as our next president way back in February of 2007.

That is all. :D

yep, it was a good call, but he's not winning.
a bunch of stupid, indecisive and naive hillary supporters are now deciding to support McCain instead. Im voting for Obama, but hes not winning.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

mccain is old, white and male. he's already the next US president.

[bwind22]

yep, it was a good call, but he's not winning.
a bunch of stupid, indecisive and naive hillary supporters are now deciding to support McCain instead. Im voting for Obama, but hes not winning.



Time will tell I guess, but I hope you're wrong. McCain = more of the same. Obama = new direction for the country.

[bwind22]

Latest polls have Obama up on McCain 49% to 43%. :D

I called this almost 2 full years ago. Just wanted to point that out. :cool:

[Leprucky Cougar]

http://www.popmatters.com/images/news_art/s/senatorbarackobama.jpg


I just heard this morning that Senator Barrack Obama (Illinois) is considering a run at the Oval Office in '08. Oh please, let this happen!!!!! He is 1 of the 2 politicians in Washington that does not yet seem corrupted by our system! If you've ever heard him speak, you probably noticed a well grounded, well spoken, intelligent young (for a politician) man that really seems to know where HE stands, and not just where his party thinks he should. If the democrats are serious about wanting the White House, this is the man they need to run. Not Hillary, not John Kerry and certainly not any of the lesser known people who's names are floating around... Hillary, Kerry, etc... are too polarized already. They are too far left to pull in the "gray area" voters (That's just a term I use to refer to those of us who vote every election, but hold no political affiliation to any certain party.) Obama is a moderate liberal and a middle of the road democrat and I honestly think that if he runs, he will win. Granted most of America probably hasn't even heard of him yet, let alone hear him speak, but once they do... Well, let me just introduce our next president.

Now, the real icing on this cake will be if the Republicans get their act together too and give us the other middle of the road candidate that hasn't been corrupted by Washington yet.... Norm Coleman (Senator, Minnesota) He used to be a middle of the road Democrat and then switched to middle of the road Republican and that alone should tell you he has no problem standing up to the parties. If we get Coleman vs. Obama in 2008, I might just find myself having some restored faith in our political system because those 2 both actually seem like real people when you hear them. They don't seem like puppets and certainly not like deceitful politicians. They both seem to genuinely want what is best for their constituants and the people of the country and I'd be happy to vote for either...

I agree about the Obama justifications...but disagree about Kerry & Clinton. You said that they are too far left....not even....besides low voter turnout one of the reasons Kerry lost because for many he was left ENOUGH. And at the time, the democrats should've been working harder at defining themselves, rather than going on and on about what their opponents did vs. what they should've done; Remember just 2.5 yrs after 9/11 in the 04 elections, republicans were united. Democrats? Not exactly...some were converting to the other side. While others became what I like to call "conservative" dems voting republican on things like minority rights (ie-women, homosexuals, etc)

However thankfully unlike Kerry and Clinton he's done a magnificent job at balancing both; knowing when to not "bash" McCain's policies and records but indicate the tremendous flaws and highlighting substantial points as to why his may not be perfect--but much better than the staus quo; an d much better for the "average" [middle class] americans, etc.

Hillary when Bill was prez used to be able to do that; however at the time I belive '93 or '94, any Hillary Clinton supporters you can correct me if I'm wrong was a HUGE ADVOCATE FOR HEALTHCARE. Like Great Britain and France, she wanted universal Healthcare and had pretty good poliicies for ir. However, when your husband is a democratic president with a republican GOP it's very hard to get legislation you want passed. Anyway the republicans were pretty pissed at the idea of a first lady being "active" in the presidency in addition to her policy (republicans wanted to keep healthcare privatized and usually slash a good 60% of programs democratic presidents before them create) so they made a deal. Hillary essentially became "one of them." She accepted a $800,000 bonus, with "implied gurantee" she would secure a spot as New York Senator when Clinton's term was up, in promise she'd "keep her mouth shut by the bill and drop it." If anyone watches Michael Moore's documentary: SicKo--on US failing health care system you can get filled in on all the details.

However since then--especially in her campaign against Obama healthcare was always a strength of hers. She was even considering reforms for it. Thankfully if there are any Hillary supporters here she supports Obama, she spoke and gave her support formally at the convention; so please vote for Obama if want to stay on the democratic party. We need your help more than ever to secure the White House and encourage undecided voters to get out there at the polls. :)

Shannon can't wait for people to Barack the Vote on Nov. 4th :)

[bwind22]

Just in case any of you forgot where you heard it first.... Right here.

Time to crack the champagne. This one's over. Woohoo!

[neverending]

It's true! You got a magic 8-ball?

[hellfire1]

I'm with Murderdoll and Mothman. I think McCain is going to win, though I'm seriously hoping this won't be the case.

[Marroe]

I have to admit I have been nervous about this all day but I'm feeling good now:)

btw...hi all:p

[neverending]

I'm with Murderdoll and Mothman. I think McCain is going to win, though I'm seriously hoping this won't be the case.

Have you been watching the election coverage AT ALL?

[The Flayed One]

For those watching, all Obama needs is one more state, because California & Washington WILL go Obama. It's almost over. Obama will be our next president.

[hellfire1]

Have you been watching the election coverage AT ALL?


Why no.. I'm not on msnbc at all (at 4:30 am my time, by the way) and I'm just talking out of my ass. :rolleyes:

I'm not calling it till I see it, and it isn't over yet.

[The Mothman]

Just in case any of you forgot where you heard it first.... Right here.

Time to crack the champagne. This one's over. Woohoo!

its not called yet over here, but kudos for calling it. Im getting pretty excited, because it looks pretty good.

[hellfire1]

For those watching, all Obama needs is one more state, because California & Washington WILL go Obama. It's almost over. Obama will be our next president.



And this is why you have my vote. ;)

Thank you, that was very informative.

[novakru]

I have to admit I have been nervous about this all day but I'm feeling good now:)

btw...hi all:p

Good to see you!
How are you?
How's baby??

[Despare]

I could care less how people vote but I'm so sick and tired of people voting simply because they want a president that isn't white. I guess it's just bad to be white now just like it is to be a Christian or to have a decent amount of money (unless you're an actor than you can be a multi-millionaire and still be a man of the people and denounce the rich). Looks to me like Obama has it all tied up, he'll have a democratic congress too so he'll get his ideas passed...

[Marroe]

Good to see you!
How are you?
How's baby??

Hey! I am good, thanks! A bit crazy after all the hurricane stuff but all is good now. And the baby is great. She'll be one next month:( How's yours?


Well, PM me anyways because I don't wanna go too off topic:D

[novakru]

I could care less how people vote but I'm so sick and tired of people voting simply because they want a president that isn't white. I guess it's just bad to be white now just like it is to be a Christian or to have a decent amount of money (unless you're an actor than you can be a multi-millionaire and still be a man of the people and denounce the rich). Looks to me like Obama has it all tied up, he'll have a democratic congress too so he'll get his ideas passed...

Fuck that
I am THRILLED I can tell whomever to FUCK OFF when I am called 'whitedevil bitch'


Obama is THE MAN now:cool:

[pinkfloyd45769]

I have to admit I have been nervous about this all day but I'm feeling good now:)

btw...hi all:p

OMG!!!Where have you been?Its good to see you again:)How are you?

[hellfire1]

*Phew*

and YAY!

[The Flayed One]

It's over! Obama is president!

[The Mothman]

woooooooooooo!

[hellfire1]

Sigh... I'm so happy this man has finally been elected. After living abroad for so long, and seeing firsthand how much our reputation and the way the world views us has been tarnished these past 8 years, and personally suffering the backlash, it feels great to be proud again.

Fucker better do right by us. :p

[Leprucky Cougar]

It's over! Obama is president!

Wooohoooo! Guys as you can rightfully imagine I am beyond estatic right now. I haven't been to bed. It's 3am here and I've been glued to Cspan, Cspan 2, Cnn and msnbc watching senate, house and presidential results. Not sure if any of you all missed me the past two days but I was at my local Obama campaign office campaigning like crazy--phonebanking and door-to-dooring doing everything in my power to encourage voters to get out there and cast their ballots, making sure they had the right polling information, and making sure everyone had those absentee ballots in--stressing the importance of voting even if it wasn't the candidate I agreed with--the fact that this time we can truly say it matters. I was campaigning for Virginia and I like to say I partook in making them blue--1st time for them since LBJ was Prez! Of course not by a huge margin 51-49 but that's still making a huge statement on their progress.

Since 7pm I along with majority of my dormmates were glued watching the results at first many were worried because between 7 and 8:15 there was a lead of I believe 88-44 McCain-many were very tense and either thought McCain's gonna' win or we will be up all night because of the nail-bitter situation. Especially when it came to FL, OH, VA, NC, and PA. I reassured everyone that it's far too early to call because 15 states closed their polls at 8 (I know my homestate Maryland does for sure) and another 15 closed at 9.
Shortly after there were huge sighs of relief as we checked the electoral college again and there was a 199- 97 lead for Obama. More and more results came in as my dorm was still divided [on the left we had the obama supporters far right -republicans, in the middle the nader/ron paul supporters/ "non caring people"--these were the ones who didn't
vote for illegitimate reasons] Following that I'm watching statistical comparitive analysis of each candidate's party during the 04 and 00 elections to see how great or how worse than did than their preceiving party. As you can imagine, Obama did far greater a job than John Kerry in 04. For McCain some states equal, some states not as much. Then all of sudden I see 297 Obama, 160 for McCain and the reality starts to sink in that it's over because he only needed 270 and got way more than that. The obama supporters leave the dorm and start running all around campus celebrating. I stay around just in case something shady happened like a contesting of the votes--a want for a reccount--a concession speech, etc. Then around 11:45-12am the number get even larger: Obama 315, McCain 190 and I start to fantasize a in a good way of course in what this means. Then the majority of the republicans tell me "it's cool," "they'll get over it and they don't care anymore" and respectfully went away in defeat, although a few rebellious ones posted signs up that said "Death: RIP Democracy on 11.4.08" . After that, I listened to McCain's concession speech --which to me sounded a bit choreographed, not entirely from the heart and covertly irate--nonetheless was a respectable approach to address and redirect his supporters--although many were responding in a rally form of comply rather than a speech (Ie--extreme boos, nothing politically respectable). Within the next half hour I get more results more increased numbers--all before I watch Obama give remarks live from Chicago followed by an appearacnce of his wife and family alongside Biden and his family. The words he spoke, feelings I felt, and scene I saw was outrageously breathtaking and exhilirating at the same time. Within the next 20 minutes of me checking out the electoral college once again I saw Obama 339, McCain 149. That's when I finally verbally and mentally celebrated because then I knew despite any deficit, argument, recount or contestation--I knew there was absolutely nothing McCain could do to pull it off no matter if all the precints for the remaining states was in. He just couldn't get it done with the math.

What I was so amazed by is how many political analysists (including myself although not officially lol) said that just because someone is winning in the polls doesn't mean they will on election day. Well tonight/today it happened. And there have also been remarks that proved that even if a candidate doesn't win the popular vote he can still win presidency because of the electoral college. This happened--sort of. Obama did have the popular vote -not by a close margin though 51-49. But ironic to most turnout's he (like Bush in '04) won by a landslide!--actually outdoing Bush's 04 election by a bigger number. The keys here: He got the swing states he needed and by good enough margins and the ones that were assumed to be his (naturally democratic states--the West and Northeast coast) won by significant numbers.
The last time I checked the numbers : 2:45 am et it was Obama 359, McCain 159.

So there's my experience through the whole thing. I can't wait to the inaugaration on January 20th 2009. ANti-bush supporters actually have countdown clocks that countdown the days minutes hours and seconds til his last day. I live in Maryland, so I'm about a half-hr (45 minutes if heavy traffic and without shortcuts) away from DC--and I'm thinking about going to the inaugaration. One of my friends here has family that works in DC during all the prez inaugarations and actually has a good reason for work now-so I may attend with them. I don't know how many of you guys on HDC are Democrats or republicans, or independents-- but regardless I'm proud to know any Obamacans here. Sorry for being fanatic about this whole ordeal but we've got the 44th President on his way to the white house. Woooo!!!! We shall gain our respect back (hopefully) on the international circuit. Troops you've done a noble job thus far: it's almost time to come home!! :) :) :)

[Leprucky Cougar]

Sigh... I'm so happy this man has finally been elected. After living abroad for so long, and seeing firsthand how much our reputation and the way the world views us has been tarnished these past 8 years, and personally suffering the backlash, it feels great to be proud again.

Fucker better do right by us. :p

Yeah and so far no backlash in terms of severe actions have taking place regarding his victory. Let's hope the same for his inaugaration.

[Nella]

LC, you know a LOT about politics! :)

I'm glad Obama won. I'm not very political but I do think it's time for a change. I'm glad gas prices have gone down and I hope they'll continue to go down. I heard taxes were supposed to be a lot higher...I haven't been watching the news so I was wondering what Obama will do about the war...

[saffronsinclaire]

Whooooooo! Go Obama!

[Leprucky Cougar]

LC, you know a LOT about politics! :)

I'm glad Obama won. I'm not very political but I do think it's time for a change. I'm glad gas prices have gone down and I hope they'll continue to go down. I heard taxes were supposed to be a lot higher...I haven't been watching the news so I was wondering what Obama will do about the war...

Why Thankyou Nella. I'm working on it....lol Just promise me if I run in 25 years I have ur support. :)


Glad u asked.

Taxes? you won't see a change or rise if u make under $250,000.00 a year

War? Making the focus of the war be AL Quieda and the terrorists--not Iraq. Making sure they shift to their own power as we BRING BACK OUR BABIES in Iraq in and fight the real enemy. And slowly bring 'em back in an "efficient and responsible" manner

[Nella]

Why Thankyou Nella. I'm working on it....lol Just promise me if I run in 25 years I have ur support. :)


Glad u asked.

Taxes? you won't see a change or rise if u make under $250,000.00 a year

War? Making the focus of the war be AL Quieda and the terrorists--not Iraq. Making sure they shift to their own power as we BRING BACK OUR BABIES in Iraq in and fight the real enemy. And slowly bring 'em back in an "efficient and responsible" manner

Yeah, I'll vote for ya. :)

I asked about the taxes because my dad makes at least 4 times that amount per year. He's gonna have to pay big time. We were talking about that yesterday, in fact.

Cool. Did Obama actually say "BRING BACK OUR BABIES". I think that would be wonderful. The war's been going on for too long, IMHO.

[Leprucky Cougar]

Yeah, I'll vote for ya. :)

I asked about the taxes because my dad makes at least 4 times that amount per year. He's gonna have to pay big time. We were talking about that yesterday, in fact.

Cool. Did Obama actually say "BRING BACK OUR BABIES". I think that would be wonderful. The war's been going on for too long, IMHO.

oh that phrase was me in the heat of the moment--I get in the zone when I'm talking about politics, debating or narrating. That was just my oratory coming out


Yeah he'll have 2 pay---but in the long run--it won't be like he's downgraded from billionaire to millionaire --just not as much as before til tax returns of course and theoretically speaking it makes more sense. I would get into specifics but I haven't been to bed and my brain's moving slow so bare with me

[Nella]

I have to say that the stimulus payment was pretty cool. I got $300. I hope we get that kind of benefit from Obama. Or was that simply a move by the IRS?

[Leprucky Cougar]

I have to say that the stimulus payment was pretty cool. I got $300. I hope we get that kind of benefit from Obama. Or was that simply a move by the IRS?

Wasn' t the IRS....was Bush's lame duck way of fixing the econ

For some it benefited for others it was just gas money--nothing heavily contributed

[Nella]

Wasn' t the IRS....was Bush's lame duck way of fixing the econ

For some it benefited for others it was just gas money--nothing heavily contributed

I thought is was George W.'s decision. I just had to ask as I said I'm not very political, and I don't like to get involved.

Yeah, my son got $600. I would have gotten more if I'd had him to claim as a dependent.

[Leprucky Cougar]

I thought is was George W.'s decision. I just had to ask as I said I'm not very political, and I don't like to get involved.

Yeah, my son got $600. I would have gotten more if I'd had him to claim as a dependent.

I know...take no offense to the lame duck comment. That's political talk for when when we talk about a politican stuck in a rut type of situations.

[Nella]

I know...take no offense to the lame duck comment. That's political talk for when when we talk about a politican stuck in a rut type of situations.

None taken. Thanks for filling me in on the little questions I had.

[Zero]

quack quack - i just hope george jr. doesn't get us into another war before he flies off to his texas pond

[neverending]

quack quack - i just hope george jr. doesn't get us into another war before he flies off to his texas pond

Just like his daddy did for Clinton....

[_____V_____]

I really, really hope Obama is everything the people want him to be. The next couple of years will tell...maybe even sooner.

[Festered]

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk111/serenacce/Project1-1.jpg

Anybody needs me, I'll be renouncing my citizenship and moving to Bolivia today.

[Leprucky Cougar]

quack quack - i just hope george jr. doesn't get us into another war before he flies off to his texas pond

Same here. When he phoned Obama for congrats he said "have fun while you're here." How the hell is that suppose to be interpreted?

God please don't make George W. fuck with Iran just because he's rich and bored and thinks he can play with countries and get away with it because his daddy let him the past 8 years

[ferretchucker]

I think he'll keep quiet from now on.

And good luck Obama!

[skyblue342]

Obama as our president is evil. We are all doomed! His false promises he will kill us all. Brainwashed you all into thinking he was going to help us! No he will help his people, he is the anti christ!!. We are all DOOOOMMEEDD!!

[Posher778]

Yay! I've been itching for some doom. Or.... maybe its just a hemorrhoid.

[Zero]

oh my - thanks for this insightful political commentary. i'll give this a good, long think

[Nella]

Did you register just to type that out? ;)

[skyblue342]

Obama=antichrist We're All Doomed!

[Zero]

wow - the mod's are like super gunfighters with their quick-draw deletes.

i was actually looking at the obnoxious anti-obama thread (that was obviously heading towards polemic racism) when suddenly the screen flickered and it said 'the thread you are looking for does not exist' - damn that was like 20 seconds

[skyblue342]

Im trying to save you people! Its all over for us. Obama will kill us all

[newb]

I was just about to post in the thread and....whhoooosh...it was gone....kudo's to the quick modding......although I did have a funny pic to insert....I'll put it here


http://content.humorpix.com/images/2726/p001.jpg

[Posher778]

Do you go to GSU? Cause I could swear my roomate does this crap all day.

[newb]

holy shit.....did I just time travel or something?

[skyblue342]

You'll see! Jesus sent me to warn all that no nothing.

[Posher778]

You'll see! Jesus sent me to warn all that no nothing.

Incorrect. You should have said "know" nothing, ya know nothing.

[newb]

You'll see! Jesus sent me to warn all that no nothing.

thats "know"....not "no"

and posh beat me to it

[skyblue342]

Fine look for my spelling errors. I have done what i was sent here to do..




Times up...

[Zero]

wow - the mods are insanely quick. i posted a thread about how quick they were and they deleted it before it even got posted. (which seemed a bit harsh)

[newb]

wow - the mods are insanely quick. i posted a thread about how quick they were and they deleted it before it even got posted.

kinda ironic




dontcha think

[bloodrayne]

You'll see! Jesus sent me to warn all that no nothing.

Look, you can kiss Obama's ass or bash him to hell...That's one of the awesome things about this country (in some other countries, you'd be beheaded for it...and I'm not kidding)...However, you have made your point so you don't have to make multiple posts/threads saying the exact same things...That's spamming and it's unnecessary

I don't like Obama's proposed policies, views or mathematically impossible plans either, but I'm not being retarded about it.

Take a chill pill.

[Posher778]

thats "know"....not "no"

and posh beat me to it

Must be my limber youngness. ;)

[Zero]

but - maybe skyblue is right! this is the end of the world and now we're on a highway to hell


(cool!)

[newb]

Look, you can kiss Obama's ass or bash him to hell...That's one of the awesome things about this country (in some other countries, you'd be beheaded for it...and I'm not kidding)...However, you have made your point so you don't have to make multiple posts/threads saying the exact same things...That's spamming and it's unnecessary

I don't like Obama's proposed policies, views or mathematically impossible plans either, but I'm not being retarded about it.

Take a chill pill.

damn Rayne...you're quick today. :D



here.....have another


http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1507/st_redbull_f.jpg

[monster123]

Im deeply saddened that our country chose him as our president. However i would come on here sprouting all this jesus sent me stuff. Just say you dont like him..

I agree with bloodrayne have your self a chill pill.

[bloodrayne]

but - maybe skyblue is right! this is the end of the world and now we're on a highway to hell


(cool!)

And thank YOU for getting a song stuck in my head, monkey ass

:p

damn Rayne...you're quick today. :D



here.....have another


http://www.wired.com/images/article/magazine/1507/st_redbull_f.jpg

lol...I think it's the coffee and donuts :D

[newb]

And thank YOU for getting a song stuck in my head, monkey ass

:p

what song...."End of the World" or "Highway to Hell"...I would choose the later

[The Mothman]

Im trying to save you people! Its all over for us. Obama will kill us all

you are an ignorant idiot.

[monster123]

you are an ignorant idiot.

I agree with that!

[Posher778]

what song...."End of the World" or "Highway to Hell"...I would choose the later

I have Bullet With Butterfly Wings stuck in my head :)

[bloodrayne]

what song...."End of the World" or "Highway to Hell"...I would choose the later

I HAD no choice...The latter just kinda jumped in there on its own ;)

[GorePhobia]

I am glad to see Obama as the next President. I feel great knowing I got to vote fore the first time and it was for the winning canidate. I hope he can lead our country in the right direction and get us out of the rut we are currently in. Thank God we don't have to deal with another Bush-like four years like McCain would have presented us with.

[bloodrayne]

I have Bullet With Butterfly Wings stuck in my head :)

I just pictured how that would LOOK...that was pretty cool...and bloody...lol


EDIT: And sorta fairyish, what with the wings and all :p

[newb]

I HAD no choice...The latter just kinda jumped in there on its own ;)

yeah.....I know....I spelt latter wrong


Let me help you get the other one stuck


That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes,
an aeroplane - Lenny Bruce is not afraid.
Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn,
world serves its own needs, dummy serve your own needs.
Feed it off an aux speak,, grunt, no, strength,
The ladder starts to clatter with fear fight down height.
Wire in a fire, representing seven games, a government for hire and a combat site.
Left of west and coming in a hurry with the furies breathing down your neck.
Team by team reporters baffled, trumped, tethered cropped.
Look at that low playing!
Fine, then.
Uh oh, overflow, population, common food, but it'll do.
Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its own needs, listen to your heart bleed dummy with the rapture and the revered and the right - right.
You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright light, feeling pretty psyched.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

[bloodrayne]

yeah.....I know....I spelt latter wrong

Aww, poor Newb...I didn't even notice that...lol

[Zero]

And thank YOU for getting a song stuck in my head, monkey ass

:p



Here - a replacement:

I wake up every mornin'
I stumble out of bed
Stretchin' and yawnin'
Another day ahead
It seems to last forever
And time goes slowly by
'Til babe and me's together
Then it starts to fly

'Cos the moment that he's with me
Time can take a flight
The moment that he's with me
Everything's alright
Night time is the right time
We make love
Then it's his and my time
We take off

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him

He takes me to a movie
Or to a restaurant, to go
Slow dancing
Anything I want
Only when he's with me
I catch a light
Only when he gives me
Makes me feel alright

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him

All day I think of him
Dreamin' of him constantly
I'm crazy mad for him
And he's crazy mad for me
(Crazy mad for me)
When he steps off that train
I'm makin' a fool, a fight
Work all day to earn his pay
So we can play all night

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him

He's always on that morning train
(He works from nine till five and then)
He works so hard
(He takes another home again)
To find me waiting for him
(My baby takes the morning train)

[monster123]

Here is something to ponder.
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service,
he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers,
a known terrorist.

If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard!
It's Hard to believe this man could be President of USA.

Im not trying to fight im just saying was this the right choice?

[Psycom5k]

Man, and I thought everybody loved Obama. He got my vote and I'm happy he won. Thats all I'm saying.

[The Mothman]

Here is something to ponder.
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service,
he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers,
a known terrorist.

If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard!
It's Hard to believe this man could be President of USA.

Im not trying to fight im just saying was this the right choice?

I don't judge people by their associates.

[monster123]

I do its a simple fact that you dont hang out with someone if you think what they do is wrong. If you thought they were wrong you would want nothing to do with them

[Zero]

i think the ayers thing has been way blown out of proportion. let's all recall that mccain was buddy-buddy with Keating (of the 1990 savings and loan scandal) and was even chastised officially by the US senate for having 'poor judgment' in relation to his helping Keating avoid regulators.

the key though is that obama has a vision for getting america moving and people responded (not all but most and a bigger number than have responded to any prez candidate in the past decade). love him or hate him - he is now our president and deserves at least some level of respect until you can point to actual mistakes he's made as president

[Vodstok]

Here is something to ponder.
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with the Secret Service,
he would be disqualified because of his past association with William Ayers,
a known terrorist.

If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his own body guard!
It's Hard to believe this man could be President of USA.

Im not trying to fight im just saying was this the right choice?
A man is not responsible for the actions of those around him. I used to hang out with people who were freinds with a guy who raped a girl. I was around him all the time, so people could infer that he was my friend (although listening to how I spoke to him, there was no mystery that i hated him), so if I decided to run for office, people could say "he used to hang out with a rapist", which is technically true. But so what?



Incidentally, I hung out in the same company BEFORE he committed rape. After that I wouldnt be caught dead around the dick. But you get the point.

[monster123]

Thats fine im sure he'll make many mistakes.

[monster123]

A man is not responsible for the actions of those around him. I used to hang out with people who were freinds with a guy who raped a girl. I was around him all the time, so people could infer that he was my friend (although listening to how I spoke to him, there was no mystery that i hated him), so if I decided to run for office, people could say "he used to hang out with a rapist", which is technically true. But so what?



Incidentally, I hung out in the same company BEFORE he committed rape. After that I wouldnt be caught dead around the dick. But you get the point.

If you truelly hated him you would of not spoke to him at all.

[hellfire1]

Oy vey... :rolleyes:

[The Mothman]

Thats fine im sure he'll make many mistakes.

and McCain wouldn't?

[Zero]

besides politicians - or leaders of any kind - have to associate with all kinds of people - the key is what you do with and for them. obama didn't have a long lasting relationship - he had a fundraiser the guy had a little bit to do with. he's not out using political influence to help the guy (which, incidentally, IS what McCain did)

[bloodrayne]

Here - a replacement:

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him




OH

MY

FUCKING

GOD!!!



I cannot BELIEVE You just did that to me



lol...That's gonna be here all week now

You win, monkey man...I concede to your incredible memory and astounding cruelty

[Vodstok]

i think the ayers thing has been way blown out of proportion. let's all recall that mccain was buddy-buddy with Keating (of the 1990 savings and loan scandal) and was even chastised officially by the US senate for having 'poor judgment' in relation to his helping Keating avoid regulators.

the key though is that obama has a vision for getting america moving and people responded (not all but most and a bigger number than have responded to any prez candidate in the past decade). love him or hate him - he is now our president and deserves at least some level of respect until you can point to actual mistakes he's made as president
Exactly. Practically everyone backed bush right after 9/11, and even if you didnt, you kept your damn mouth shut lest you be beaten publicly like the dixie chicks. he DID do a few things right way back when. Its everything before that and everything sicne that has made Bush so reviled.


Obama has some ridiculously high standards to live up to. There are a frightening number of people treating this like christ coming down from on high and destroying evil with his mighty lightsaber. he's a man for god's sake. Keep a realistic expectation and hope he can make good on the expectations, and if not, that he will at least try where so many have folded or were clearly bullshitting before.


Plus, dont be too harsh, or Michelle Obama will kick your ass. Seriously, she is the first First lady i have ever looked at and though "There is no way I am fuckign with that woman". Laura Bush i slike June Cleaver, and Nancy Reagan and barb Bush would be down with a light punch. Hillary was a scrapper, but she is short.

Michelle Obama though... She looks like she would kill you.

[Zero]

audio-evil! mwah ha ha ha haha

(of course now i have the damn thing in my head as well - so its kind of checkmate) - must listen to new ac/dc to clean the palatte

[newb]

Plus, dont be too harsh, or Michelle Obama will kick your ass. Seriously, she is the first First lady i have ever looked at and though "There is no way I am fuckign with that woman". Laura Bush i slike June Cleaver, and Nancy Reagan and barb Bush would be down with a light punch. Hillary was a scrapper, but she is short.

Michelle Obama though... She looks like she would kill you.

hmmmm....can't EVER recall looking at a "first lady" and wondering if I could beat her up.


you got some serious anger issues Vod. :D

[bloodrayne]

hmmmm....can't EVER recall looking at a "first lady" and wondering if I could beat her up.

you got some serious anger issues Vod. :D

LMAO


Oh Baby, you are on a ROLL today!




*waits for Newb to post a picture of himself wrapped in a bread product*

:D

[Vodstok]

hmmmm....can't EVER recall looking at a "first lady" and wondering if I could beat her up.


you got some serious anger issues Vod. :D
I got my ass beat by my much larger sister growing up and listened to stories about my dad getting into all sorts of fights when he was a kid (white kid in the Oakland projects during the 60s), so I tend to wiegh myself against people when I meet them.

I have amental list of people onm tv who i could murder hand to hand, and those I wouldnt screw with for a million dollars tax free.


And you saw my productivity thread, i'm a smily guy :D

[newb]

LMAO


Oh Baby, you are on a ROLL today!




*waits for Newb to post a picture of himself wrapped in a bread product*

:D

I figured the world is ending.....I'm gonna get all my funny out today.

[Zero]

newb you are the MAN

[Festered]

Obama as our president is evil. We are all doomed! His false promises he will kill us all. Brainwashed you all into thinking he was going to help us! No he will help his people, he is the anti christ!!. We are all DOOOOMMEEDD!!

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk111/serenacce/Animationdamien3.gif

I knew it. It's that fuckin' Thorne brat again.

[bwind22]

So who is the trigger-happy and biased mod that deleted my post about the question I asked my magic 8-ball about a member here but allows someone else to flat out call the same member an ignorant idiot in this thread?
Just curious.... :rolleyes:

[Vodstok]

If you truelly hated him you would of not spoke to him at all.
you apparently dont understand the mechanics of hate. when you hate someone, but in order to be around people you like you are forced to endure their presence, you do things to make it bearable.


In my case, if i dislike something or someone, i often take great pleasure in causing them discomfort. Its not like i was beating up a kid for having bad hair, i was trashing and belittling a horrible selfish arrogant douchebag that sadly was good friends with one of my good friends, and he insisted on speaking to me despite my many overt "I dont like you, why are you talking to me?"

So i tortured him emotionally.

[Leprucky Cougar]

I don't like Obama's proposed policies, views or mathematically impossible plans either

.


If it's his policies you disagree with: here's the beauty of America's Checks and Balances Policy and how Congress works. A prez just can't make a law and it's there. It starts as a bill...goes to the House first...and ALL it's committes, get's debated on the floor, makes any neccessary revisions, then debated again, then voted on--then the same exact thing happens with Senate--only because there's more equal power and not as centralized in terms of structure--any Senator could make the process longer for everyone by deciding to fillibuster a bill. Then they vote. And send it to the Prez...the prez can choose to sign or veto or make them do it all again....if he vetoes, congress if they feel neccessary can overide his veto.

So for any Anti-obamas on here that dislike him b/c of his policy ideas I'm sure everyone policy he makes will not end up as he's described on the campaign trail. Yes we the democrats have the majority in the House and picked up a little more seats in the Senate--but in the Senate often the minority party gets just an equal say if not more in the house becasue there's so few and unlike the House can filibuster. So they'll wanna reform his ideas. And 2 --he really wants to alleviate partianship and has worked closely with some big time republicans like McCain and Lugar and is consideringf putting some in his cabinet. Which is a reason why Biden was an excellent VP choice--He's still a democrat but NEVER refrains from constructive criticism and critques of his colleagues. Was never an ass-kisser for his party in lamest terms.

So Rayne and others--don't worry you won't be totally dissatisfied, I'm sure.

[bloodrayne]

So who is the trigger-happy and biased mod that deleted my post about the question I asked my magic 8-ball about a member here but allows someone else to flat out call the same member an ignorant idiot in this thread?
Just curious.... :rolleyes:

Sorry Babe...YOUR post spawned no less than 6 PAGES of controversy...You should have been here, you would have been proud ;)...You were quoted many times.

Had to cut off the head of the snake.


On the bright side...You won the 'Shit-Stirrer Of The Day' award :p

Looks like we have a couple of members in the running for today, too.

[bwind22]

I've never been so proud to have a post deleted in my life. Thanks for the explanation. Since it was you, I know there must have been a good reason for it since I know you're not trigger happy OR biased. No worries. Thanks for the award. I'll hang it over my mantlepiece with the collection of severed limbs. :D

[bwind22]

For no real reason, I decided to resurrect this thread to bask in the warm glow of predicting an Obama presidency 2 years before the election took place. Sorry to say, I have been fairly disappointed in him thus far though. He's turned out to be a lot more of a typical politician than I was hoping. (I'd still vote for him over McCain any day though.)