remaking HELLRAISER [Archive] - Horror.com Forums

Roderick Usher

10-20-2006, 04:24 PM

According to Fangoria...

http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=2994

...Clive Barker himself is writing an upcoming HELLRAISER remake at the request of the Weinsteins. He says he's doing it because if he doesn't then somone else will write it and probably fuck it up.

so is this good news or bad news?

And before everyone starts posting "OMG enough with the remakes..." get used to it. Remakes have been going down since film began - it's simply how the world of cinema works. Yes we're going through a rather heavy spate of horror films being remakde right now, but they're making money, so expect more to come.

goregurl

10-20-2006, 04:31 PM

not a bad idea but the orginal was a great flick...i'm just a tad worried that it's gonna end up being 2 hours of CG scenes...film makers have adopted this too much is never enough additude with CG and i ,personally am tired of it..thats my one concern about it

The_Return

10-20-2006, 04:56 PM

Not gonna work.

Better Clive doing it than some hack, but I still dont think it's a very good idea.

A big budget theatrical sequel with Clive involved is what the series needs to get back on track IMO, not a remake. All the series needs is a bit of love and money, and I think another strong installment would be more than possible.

Prelude95Si

10-20-2006, 06:10 PM

I can't see a reason to remake this movie, especially considering that there were 2 direct to video/DVD sequals that came out last year.

Doc Faustus

10-20-2006, 06:21 PM

If Barker writes it, it should work, but it would be unfortunate if there's too much CG. It should be good news in the long run, and it would be cool to see some revamped cenobites. I don't see what more could be done with the franchise anyway. Unless of course they decided to make a Freddy vs. Pinhead movie, which might be sort of heavyhanded for Freddy fans.

The STE

10-20-2006, 08:59 PM

I still refuse to believe every remake rumor I hear. A lot of these will never see the light of day

_____V_____

10-20-2006, 09:26 PM

If they eventually get around to completing it and releasing it, I bet it will be a disappointment. Even Barker himself cannot do justice to a remake. A sequel or prequel, on the other hand, would have been a much better idea.

alkytrio666

10-20-2006, 10:08 PM

Goddamnit.

noctuary

10-21-2006, 05:48 AM

Vodstok

10-23-2006, 05:20 AM

there may be hope if they keep Doug Bradley as pinhead....

granted, they are fucking around with an icon.. but i never really liked hellraiser, so maynbe this will be good.

the weird thing for me is that they are now making remake sof movies that are a couple of decades old, whihc figures... But that i remember them clearly from childhood....

I remember seeing the poster for hellraiser at a theater and thinking "No thanks"...

I was a bit of a wuss when it came to horror when i was a kid.

urgeok

10-23-2006, 05:49 AM

Looks like Barker needs money. Guess that attempt at being Neil Gaiman isn't working out so well for him. Honestly though, ol' Clive is a skilled screenwriter, so this could work out. I'll remain quite skeptical until it actually materializes, if ever.

Clive Barker is a sweetheart of a man - a real fan favorite for good reason ..
but despite owning everything he's done - i'm not a big fan.

i like the direction gaiman is going a lot better then the one Clive took.
like stephen king - his latter novels are pretty much just bloated excess as far as I'm concerned.

Books of Blood were great - i think he's better off with short stories. less room to meander.

as far as redoing hellraiser ... i'm one of the few people who bitch about remakes - but i think a bit more time should be put between the origional and the remake.

if the origional still holds the power - and is still fresh in the minds of the fans (the sequels are still coming out) - it seems like an ill timed idea that will mostly miss the intended mark of exposing new fans to the hellraiser series

BudMan

10-23-2006, 06:11 AM

"OMG enough with the remakes..."

Doc Faustus

10-24-2006, 06:09 PM

In spite of an overabundance of whimsy, I think the Abarat setting has some potential, and his paintings are very distinctive and cool. It's a fun, dark fairy tale for another kind of audience. Barker has a great mind that doesn't like being held down by things, I would speculate it's one of the reasons he identifies with characters in all of these Faust legends he keeps retelling. His old brand of dark fantasy was getting redundant for him and his readers. Everville was a huge disappointment, and everything after that was pretty unpalatable. I don't think he's gotten too much like Gaiman, because Gaiman got too much like Gaiman and started to suffer from it, while Barker's expanding a bit. I don't think the Hellraiser remake will have any of the syrupy interludes that I will admit can hold the Abarat series down, but I'm pretty sure that it won't be the same thing the original was. Barker has a much more peaceful mind and spirit than he used to and might therefore have a more objective and cerebral take on things. We might be able to expect a more brooding, subtle intelligent Hellraiser. And remember, if you read enough Carl Jung, everything's a remake.

Windowlicker

10-28-2006, 06:58 AM

im a big hellraiser fan n wud hate 2 see it remade, even if it is clive barker doin it.
why cant clive make somthing complety original. that wud b gd 2 see!!

slayer666

10-28-2006, 07:30 AM

I hate all these remakes, but at least Clive's involvement should make it better than if they just gave it to Toilet Boll.

makemebad

10-28-2006, 09:11 AM

Wow.... I will see it no dout

but still... wow

slayer666

10-28-2006, 09:27 AM

In cases where I really liked the original (and Hellraiser is such a case), I'm almost afraid to see the remake.

the_real_linda

10-28-2006, 03:36 PM

a fav of mine so they better not piss it up or sell it out.....seriously ill be afraid to see it too......just like i havnt seen the wickerman remake cause i love the original

alkytrio666

10-28-2006, 06:23 PM

*nevermind*

The_Return

10-28-2006, 07:02 PM

a fav of mine so they better not piss it up or sell it out.....seriously ill be afraid to see it too......just like i havnt seen the wickerman remake cause i love the original

The new Wickerman is good for a laugh...not good for much else though, Im afraid.

Nick Cage in a giant bear suit beating the crap out of a mob of women....fucking hilarious. Wasnt supposed to be, of course...but I was laughing my ass off. One of the most unintentionally funny movies Ive ever seen.

pinkfloyd45769

10-28-2006, 07:05 PM

This remake bullshit is getting old.I really don't care much for Hellraiser, but ,FUCK!!! Give the shit a rest!!!
Remakes are now my pet peeve!

pinkfloyd45769

10-28-2006, 07:10 PM

BTW, do you notice that in the upcoming horror movies most of the movies are remakes? It is really pissing me off.

makemebad

10-28-2006, 09:15 PM

BTW, do you notice that in the upcoming horror movies most of the movies are remakes? It is really pissing me off.

it's always been like that....

pt447

10-29-2006, 10:49 AM

i remember reading that "it won't be the pinhead we all know and love". that means, no doug bradley? and also, why change pinhead? that's stupid!!!

the_real_linda

10-30-2006, 01:09 AM

The new Wickerman is good for a laugh...not good for much else though, Im afraid.

Nick Cage in a giant bear suit beating the crap out of a mob of women....fucking hilarious. Wasnt supposed to be, of course...but I was laughing my ass off. One of the most unintentionally funny movies Ive ever seen.

olo! :eek:
i supose i could give it a try....when its cheap or on tv....or some other cheaper way :rolleyes:

antipax

11-25-2006, 06:37 PM

Well, this was inevitable. I was angry when I first read this as a exclusive from Clive Barker's official site Revelations (www.clivebarker.info), I was really upset that Bob Weinstein had contacted Clive to do a remake of the first Hellraiser, right after they had run the franchise to the ground with laughable budgets and shooting the last couple of DTV sequels in Romania back-to-back using local talent.

I was really venting when I found out Clive had said yes to writing it, and might even be involved in the production. It's like asking Picasso to repaint the Guernica! I honestly couldn't (and still can't) understand why he would agree to reshaping his original work. It's like having someone come back to the museum and add a few more brush strokes to a painting in a museum, completely painting over the canvas.

Then the idea has been settling with time. I still reserve judgement as this could go either way, they might do it or not, and it sure will take a long time to get this film project greenlighted and really into the early stages of production.

But Clive still has to finish and publish "The Scarlet Gospels", and after that he needs to get the books 3 and 4 of Abarat done too. I don't predict a very good future for his re-writing of the Hellraiser script, he has a very special pace (sloooooow) of doing things, and I'm guessing that he might lose the train if this project is moving forward. Then we'd be left with a really crappy sequel project for Hellraiser.

I'm excited in a little way because Clive has just been doing the touch ups on the Scarlet Gospels and thus, has this whole landscape of Hell and Pinhead fresh in his mind. For those of you who don't know, Scarlet Gospels is a book where Harry D'Amour meets Pinhead and rescues some people from Hell. That's the good news. The bad news is this Hell is a real Judaeo Christian hell from what has transpired from interviews and such. There's Christ and Lucifer in the mix there too, and this kind of denies everything the movie series and the comics had created over the years (the Hellraiser 'hell' as a parallel dimension where Leviathan rules, there is no moral judgements there or damned souls in the religious term of the word, and only the discipline of flesh in the war for Order).

So I'm sure everything we know and love from the original Hellraiser will pretty much be discarded or repurposed (No Labyrinth, no Leviathan) and probably be replaced with a much more interesting but severely different mythology.

Pinhead has also been said to be a very important character, albeit very different from Doug Bradley's portrayal. It is very unsure if Doug will have any input in this possible remake.

I would like to believe that the franchise wouldn't end on a couple of crappy DTV sequels that are an eyesore to watch. But a Remake?

Like I said, mixed feelings.

I just hope this is a chance to do a good movie, or a couple of good movies (am I greedy aiming for a trilogy?) that bring Hellraiser to a new audience and back into the theatres, and not just another cheap way to milk a franchise with a one shot crappy remake or worse, milking the cow this might bring, following the remake with a couple more crappy sequels, again.

Spec7ral

11-26-2006, 10:44 AM

if clive barker signs on without bradley, that's a fucking travesty, since they are friends from wayback. I will obviously see this movie at some point, but I am EXTREMELY wary of it. They should have just made "Cenobites gone wild" and had an hour and a half of cenobites tearing the shit out of people, although i guess that's what the series turned into anyhoo.

tcardenas

11-30-2006, 06:11 AM

why must they remake everything?

incubust

11-30-2006, 09:07 PM

Id rather see Clive rewrite it than let some music video director use it as his debut and put a bunch of (c)rock & (c)rap music in it. At least, he has the hindsight of 20/20 to go back and redo some of the things he may have hated about his original and add things he's thought about throughout the years since. But personally, I think the original is perfect and shouldnt be fucked with at all. If anything I'd rather just see him do another sequel or a prequel. I dont care who's in it as long as it's not a bunch of brat packers from WB/UPN/CW.

noctuary

12-01-2006, 05:04 PM

I was really venting when I found out Clive had said yes to writing it, and might even be involved in the production. It's like asking Picasso to repaint the Guernica!
Hyperbole, thy name is antipax.

Roderick Usher

12-01-2006, 05:10 PM

Hyperbole, thy name is antipax.

Niiiiiiice:D

noctuary

12-01-2006, 05:17 PM

Niiiiiiice:D
*bows*

filler

colubrid660

02-12-2008, 08:01 PM

Here is what the man himself had to say about the anticipated Hellraiser remake:
"They’re going to remake Hellraiser One with a lot more money and they’ve invited me to write it – the invitation came from Bob Weinstein – which I am going to do, on the basis that if I don’t do it, it will be done in some way that I probably won’t like!
"It’s only that one that I really, really, really care about in terms of its remake value - and it’ll be kind of fun to have the extra money to do the effects and all that cool stuff...
"I’m excited about it - actually it’ll be kinda cool to revisit it once and see if there are things we can do to it which will make it significantly better... I am very happy at the idea of having some more money for the cool stuff – I don’t know how much more money, but it’s got to be more than the $900,000 that we had the first time!"

fortunato

02-12-2008, 08:33 PM

where'd you find that?

colubrid660

02-13-2008, 08:24 AM

where'd you find that?

A Clive Barker website. I am sure it was from a magazine interview (Probably "Fangoria"), but it didn't say.

I think its good news though.

siorai

02-13-2008, 11:39 AM

colubrid660

02-13-2008, 02:23 PM

As great as it is to hear that Barker will be writing it, why bother? The original is great. Why not put that money to better use and make a.. *gasp* new movie? Oh yeah... Sorry. I forgot. Hollywood sucks ass... :mad:

There was a thread about this earlier.... Part of me wants to believe that the horror industry is less concerned with money as it is with keeping REAL horror alive in the a decade dominated by torture porn, and this is why there has been a recent resurgence in horror remakes. Of course, it could be just about squeezing as much money from franchises as possible.

Of course, where is the Hellraiser series supposed to go after Hellworld? Is that where directors hoping to make a new (non-sucky) Hellraiser film have to go from? I think remakes are a good way to renew interest in these franchises so that more, potentially better-quality additions can be made. Look what a clean slate did for the Batman fanchise; a direct sequel to the last one would have been horrendous, so filmmakers resurrected it. So I guess my point is that there is a slim chance this remake will be bad, which is good news for fans of the original 3 films.

siorai

02-14-2008, 09:34 AM

There was a thread about this earlier.... Part of me wants to believe that the horror industry is less concerned with money as it is with keeping REAL horror alive in the a decade dominated by torture porn, and this is why there has been a recent resurgence in horror remakes. Of course, it could be just about squeezing as much money from franchises as possible.

Of course, where is the Hellraiser series supposed to go after Hellworld? Is that where directors hoping to make a new (non-sucky) Hellraiser film have to go from? I think remakes are a good way to renew interest in these franchises so that more, potentially better-quality additions can be made. Look what a clean slate did for the Batman fanchise; a direct sequel to the last one would have been horrendous, so filmmakers resurrected it. So I guess my point is that there is a slim chance this remake will be bad, which is good news for fans of the original 3 films.

If the horror industry wasn't concerned about money would we be seeing Saw 4 (and god forbid even 5 later this year), Hostel 2, Final Destination 4, or countless remakes of Japanese horror films? Sorry to burst your bubble, but the horror industry is just as money hungry as any other genre of the industry. Remakes are just a way to suck even more money out of a franchise. There's no altruistic motive behind it. It's all about money. Of course the film companies don't want to risk money so they go for the easy cash. Michael, Freddy, and Jason all raked in the money in bucketloads in the past. Hence why they're all being remade now.

Personally I think the Batman remake is an anomoly. Not only is it an amazing move forward for the franchise, but it's also the best comic hero adaptation to date. It is definitely not the norm as far as I'm concerned.

As for Hellraiser, I've only watched up to whatever the fourth one was called. Hellraiser 3 made me want to puke it was that bad. It was so completely against the Hellraiser/Cenobite mythos it was just painful to watch. I specifically remember seeing it in the theater and less than an hour later I couldn't remember how it ended. A sure sugn of a great movie if I've ever heard of one. ;) I have hazy recollections of 4, but I feel it's better to just leave them like that. I love the whole Hellraiser mythos, but the movies should have stopped with 2.

colubrid660

02-14-2008, 09:41 AM

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the horror industry is just as money hungry as any other genre of the industry. Remakes are just a way to suck even more money out of a franchise. There's no altruistic motive behind it. It's all about money.

I had no bubble to burst. Of course I know its money-hungry. Its still Hollywood, is it not?

Personally I think the Batman remake is an anomoly. Not only is it an amazing move forward for the franchise, but it's also the best comic hero adaptation to date. It is definitely not the norm as far as I'm concerned.

No, its certainly not the norm, but it was a source of some hope for me that franchises gone sour can be resurrected. As for best comic hero adaptation, Batman Begins is pretty good, but its no Spider-man 2.

I love the whole Hellraiser mythos, but the movies should have stopped with 2.

Yeah, Hellbound isn't that bad, Barker still had a hand in making it. Ebert really hates this movie though, and makes a good case for why. I agree that no more should have been made, but when producers see dollar signs, nothing can stop them.

jugchord

07-25-2008, 01:50 PM

I read this is happening in a magazine is this confirmed?!?

VampiricClown

07-25-2008, 02:09 PM

New Hellraiser....Old news.

Noah

07-27-2008, 09:58 PM

Just like Englund needing to return for the NOES remake.... If Doug Bradley doesn't return as Pinhead/Lead Cenobite, I'm not wasting my time with this fucking nonsense.

jugchord

07-28-2008, 05:54 AM

I 100% agree I wish they wouldn't remake Hellraiser, this is in my top 5 horror movies and they are probably just going to ruin it.

VampiricClown

07-28-2008, 11:02 AM

Don't go see it then.

Noah

07-28-2008, 04:10 PM

I wont, if Bradley's not in it. I will if he is.... Some characters can not be played by others, it just would never work.... Some that come to mind are:

Ash by Bruce Campbell

Freddy by Robert Englund

Pinhead by Doug Bradley

Chucky voiced by Brad Douriff

All have the possibility of remakes/sequels, none of which should be replaced. Michael Myers and Jason are a bit more lenient, cuz of the whole mask thing. Though thinking back, I thought they made Michael a little bit TOO big/monstrous in Zombie's Halloween remake.... And who doesn't like Kane Hodder as Jason?

But I'm not bothered by them as much.

The_Return

07-28-2008, 07:52 PM

...And who doesn't like Kane Hodder as Jason?

Honestly? I wasn't too crazy about any of the Jason flicks he was in. IMO the series was pretty much dead by the time he showed up.

Noah

07-28-2008, 08:29 PM

I hear ya bro.... I'm not much of a Jason fan anyway.... But I never hadda problem with Hodder's performances.

The_Return

07-29-2008, 07:02 AM

I hear ya bro.... I'm not much of a Jason fan anyway.... But I never hadda problem with Hodder's performances.

I guess I dont have a problem with him either...it's not like that kind of part takes any kind of acting. I really dont get why people make a fuss about who plays Jason or Micheal...any decent stuntman could play either part just as well as anyone else.

Noah

07-29-2008, 02:32 PM

Agreed. Some people get picky on that sorta shit though.... I think Hodder was pissed that he wasn't cast for Jason in Freddy vs. Jason.... I figure if he's good at what he does, it shouldn't really matter.

colubrid660

07-30-2008, 03:18 AM

Hodder was only in what, 3 Friday movies? There are like 9, and only the first 3 are any good.

Dark_soul

07-30-2008, 04:58 AM

New Hellraiser http://smileydatabase.com/s/912.gif lol yes this is very cool, fantastical http://smileydatabase.com/s/477.pnghttp://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/jumping/jumping0001.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)http://smileydatabase.com/s/465.gifhttp://smileydatabase.com/s/486.png

neverending

07-30-2008, 06:43 AM

Hodder was only in what, 3 Friday movies? There are like 9, and only the first 3 are any good.

He was in 4. The only actor to play the role more than once.

Sick_As_Fuck

07-30-2008, 05:05 PM

I'm probably the only one that would love to see "Hellraiser" re-imagined.

One of the most over-rated horror films ever made, IMO.

stenchofdeath

08-07-2008, 04:53 AM

This doesn't need to be remade, this film is great as it is. I wonder what number the stories are at now. the last time i looked it was 8? If they want to remake something/ do another story with, then make another Phantasm movie.

rasobasi420

08-13-2008, 01:06 AM

I totally agree that Hellraiser doesn't need to be remade...

But, to all those who say that Doug Bradley 'MUST' play that particular Cenobite are off a bit I think. Yes Bradley was amazing in Hellraiser 1-8. He's a great actor and great character, but Hellraiser is more than a movie. If they're able to redo the story while remaining somewhat true to 'The Hellbound Heart', and the new actor can portray that particular cenobite (who BTW isn't necessarily the 'lead' cenobite) then I'd love to see it.

Hellraiser is much more than a movie, and to limit it as such limits the legend.

phantomstranger

10-29-2008, 07:06 PM

Pascal Laugier Helming Hellraiser
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
October 29, 2008

The Hollywood Reporter says Pascal Laugier (Martyrs) is in final negotiations to write and direct Dimension's re-imagining of Hellraiser, one of horrormeister Clive Barker's best-known creations.

Released in 1987, Hellraiser told the story of an unfaithful wife who attempts to assist her dead lover in his escape from hell. The movie introduced viewers to a race of demons called Cenobites, most notably one nicknamed Pinhead -- who became one of the most enduring horror characters of the decade -- who was summoned using an antique puzzle box.

Dimension has been hoping to relaunch the franchise for the past couple of years, first hiring Julien Maury and Alexandre Bustillo to write and direct a remake then hiring Marcus Dunstan and Patrick Melton to write a new draft.

"This is a dream project for me," Laugier said. "I know Clive Barker's work very well, and I would never betray what he has done. Fans are expecting a definitive 'Hellraiser,' and I don't want to take that away from them."

UngodlyWarlock

10-30-2008, 12:45 AM

Weird...I thought I heard Alexandre Bustillo (Inside) was doing it. I guess I had my frenchies mixed up, haha.

I thought Bustillo would have been great because I thought Inside was awesome. I haven't seen Martyrs yet, though, so I don't have an opinion yet.

-D

hacelikewhoa

01-14-2009, 01:20 AM

Hellraiser remake?....wtf

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0887261/

This must REALLY be the year of remakes, right?

neverending

01-14-2009, 01:45 AM

http://horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37666

http://horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34876

hacelikewhoa

01-14-2009, 02:03 AM

I looked in all three pages of Upcoming horror and didn't find one.

must be my settings my bad.

Gerbzilla2000

01-14-2009, 03:33 AM

Not even going to bother watching it.I love the 1st on and tell you the truth there is no need to remake it and not even looks dated.

If they want to make horror films wish they would look at some of Shaun Hutson Books to make as film in stead of remaking films when there is no need to think directors like to waste money lol

( Never touchin JD again drank to much last night)

stenchofdeath

01-27-2009, 02:39 AM

If they want to make horror films wish they would look at some of Shaun Hutson Books to make as film in stead of remaking films when there is no need to think directors like to waste money lol

I agree, I used to read alot of Shaun Hutson, even some more of James Herberts books.

If they want to remake this, then i don't have a problem with that.

CrimsonFiend138

01-27-2009, 03:58 AM

Fuck that even if Bradley was in it. Fuck this, just like the Children of the corn remake, have like a 5 year old playing issac, fuck the Nightmare remake, will i go see them?? Well of course I'll be too curious I think anybody would but FUCK the movies arnt even that old, I can see some of the 50's movies, just to see a new re-envisioning but man just leave them go.

Rodus

01-27-2009, 09:11 AM

Bugger that, yet another great film that doesnt need remaking. Stenchofdeath's idea is great, Shawn Hutson books could make seome good films, and why not Richard Laymon too.

rasobasi420

01-29-2009, 05:13 AM

You're all judging this movie before even seeing it?

What useless movie critics you'd all make.

:mad:

The_Return

01-29-2009, 08:27 AM

You're all judging this movie before even seeing it?

What useless movie critics you'd all make.

:mad:

Ebert only has to watch the first 7 minutes - we're just a step ahead!

CrimsonFiend138

01-29-2009, 08:40 AM

Critics are useless anyways. Hey if you like people telling you whats good or not that's your business.

rasobasi420

02-06-2009, 08:32 AM

Nevertheless, to ignore a movie based on your love of its previous incarnation is shortsighted. For all anyone knows, this could be better than the first. I won't say that with certainty, but to ignore it, and then comment on it is the definition of ignorance.

If you plan on boycotting the film, try to give a better reason than you really liked the first version.

milktoaste

02-06-2009, 10:00 AM

I would never boycott any of the Hellraiser series, even if it was a hunk of crap remake. I just can't figure out why any one would want to remake it. It does have a decent fan base, but nothing that would gaurantee huge profits. And it's not the most complex story line either. How hard could it be to write an original script that's simply along the same lines as Hellraiser. Sure you wouldn't get to use Pinhead or the puzzle box, but I imagine you could sell just as many tickets to Hellraiser fans.

_____V_____

08-24-2010, 09:18 AM

Last week we reported a brand new ‘stand alone’ Hellraiser flick was in the pipeline and gushing towards production.

It isn’t the much-discussed remake but a new entry into the world of sado-masochistic horror where victims have their souls torn apart by a bunch of demons called Cenobites.

The new movie – Hellraiser: Revelations – is being prepped by Victor Garcia from a script by Gary Tunnicliffe and centres on two friends who release the infamous Pinhead into their world and suffer the consequences. Now that is the usual narrative progression of all the series! One of the dudes hopes to swap himself for another unwitting person… again, doesn’t sound so fresh, does it?

Signing up for scares and scars is Australian actress Peta Wilson, who you may remember played the vampiric Mina Harker in Stephen Norrington’s The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Since its 1987 debut, Hellraiser, based on Clive Barker’s own novella The Hellbound Heart, has spawned eight films with diminishing returns (Hellraiser II: Hellbound is the best). Despite the relative low budgets and general crapness, the Hellraiser franchise remains iconic and memorable due to the power of its creator’s ideas. It’s also really gross. Past directors include Scott ‘Day the Earth Stood Still’ Derrickson and Anthony ‘Mute Witness’ Hickox… although Alan Smithee’s entry rocked!

Martyrs director Pascal Laugier recently abandoned plans to remake the original film and that production remains in limbo. For now we’ll have to make do with direct-to-dvd entries into hell.

neverending

08-24-2010, 09:36 AM

Where was that report from?

Doc Faustus

08-24-2010, 02:28 PM

That's odd because most of what Alan Smithee makes is crap, for some reason. You think he'd quit. Still, I'm proud of my autographed photo of Mister Smithee. I've posted it below.

fuglystick

08-24-2010, 02:51 PM

That franchise needs a reboot. The first two films were both great, in my opinion; then they got progressively worse to the point of being unwatchable.

ProfondoXxRosso

08-24-2010, 03:04 PM

I love Hellraiser! Its so kinky!

_____V_____

08-24-2010, 05:41 PM

Where was that report from?

http://www.filmshaft.com/more-hellraiser-revelations/

neverending

08-24-2010, 06:54 PM

Thanks!..........................

Caenxavier

08-24-2010, 09:27 PM

Oh man, I hope they don't crap all over my favorite other dimensional beings.

After Hellraiser 3 it started to go down in my opinion.

DeadKlown

08-25-2010, 01:12 PM

i watched Hellraiser for the first time since childhood about 2 years ago while tripping on Mescaline. i have to say it was fucking awesome

Caenxavier

08-25-2010, 01:47 PM

i watched Hellraiser for the first time since childhood about 2 years ago while tripping on Mescaline. i have to say it was fucking awesome

Props for that. Psychedelics and I don't get along well so I don't think I could do that.

wufongtan.

09-02-2010, 02:47 PM

i watched Hellraiser for the first time since childhood about 2 years ago while tripping on Mescaline. i have to say it was fucking awesome

I haven't seen hell raiser since i was a kid. A lot of the times, when i have liked a horror movie as a kid. It fails when i watch it as a adult. I should go watch it again. To see if it has stood the test of time.

Roderick Usher

09-03-2010, 08:03 AM

My partner and I did an uncredited polish on the script.

It's being rushed into production becasue TWC will lose the rights to remake/reboot (where all the money is) if they don't make a HALLRAISER film immediately.

novakru

09-03-2010, 08:21 AM

endo

09-03-2010, 09:26 AM

I'd be interested to see it done today. I also thought the 1st and 2nd one were great.
I haven't seen all of them, I think I stopped watching after Bloodline, or whatever the one in space was called.

Roderick Usher

09-03-2010, 11:49 AM

uncredited... but still well paid I hope?

...and if they rush into it? bad movie

Paid, yes. Well paid? That's a rarity.

As for the good or bad nature of it. It's less than 1/2 Million dollar budget, but the director is talented. We'll see how it all shakes out.

fiend_skull

09-03-2010, 04:51 PM

As for the good or bad nature of it. It's less than 1/2 Million dollar budget, but the director is talented. We'll see how it all shakes out.

That kind of scares me that they would only give it that much. I know that companies don't have faith in horror movies, but I'd figure the budget would be a little bigger than that.

Any word on who they have directing it now? I know that the last couple people dropped from the project.

Morbidementia

09-12-2010, 08:13 PM

So Doug Bradley won't be in it, and I heard that means that Pinhead won't be in it, but instead there will be another Cenobite that idolizes Pinhead so much he dresses just like him. Please tell me this isn't true. Even if it is...

Roderick Usher

09-14-2010, 04:38 PM

Pinhead is in it.

Morbidementia

09-15-2010, 10:43 AM

Where did you get that info? IMDB only lists "Pseudo Pinhead", no Doug Bradley, I've seen a redesign for a Pinhead-ish character because Pinhead is reportedly not in it, I'm so confused!

neverending

09-15-2010, 02:55 PM

Where did you get that info? IMDB only lists "Pseudo Pinhead", no Doug Bradley, I've seen a redesign for a Pinhead-ish character because Pinhead is reportedly not in it, I'm so confused!

Perhaps he got the info here:

http://horror.com/forum/showpost.php?p=873245&postcount=12

Morbidementia

09-15-2010, 06:30 PM

Perhaps he got the info here:

http://horror.com/forum/showpost.php?p=873245&postcount=12

Right, but its possible he is referring to Pseudo Pinhead as Pinhead, and to me those two seem like different entities. Its also possible A) they decided to go with another script, or B) that they decided to go with the script he polished, and all the info on IMDB and other sources that say no Pinhead is based on a script they decided not to go with. There are definitely discrepancies and I'm trying to figure out whats really going on.

_____V_____

10-21-2010, 03:34 AM

Collider have picked up confirmation that Patrick Lussier and Todd Farmer will be the force behind Dimension's Hellraiser remake.

It'll be the next project for the 3D-friendly duo who brought us the My Bloody Valentine redo and the upcoming Drive Angry. They also worked on the abandoned (for the time being) Halloween 3D for the Weinsteins.

Roommate director Christian E Christiansen had been in the running for the gig, but ultimately lost out to the Drive Angry team, as did Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan, who brought us the last four Saw films and The Collector.

Collider do confirm, however, that drafts of the script so far have all focused on "young adults encountering Pinhead", some with a Hellboy-ish fantasy vibe, and some more along Elm Street lines. Whether that will remain the case under the new creative team remains to be seen. The word is that Dimension is still keen on the "young adult spin", and given her presence in Drive Angry, the rumour of Amber Heard's casting may yet prove true.

More on this as it comes.

saturday_bell

05-07-2011, 06:18 AM

TheWickerFan

05-07-2011, 07:36 AM

So it's okay to remake Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Hills Have Eyes, and Jaws - but not Hellraiser. I don't get it.:confused:

roshiq

05-07-2011, 09:33 AM

Yup...they're late! Hellraiser should have been remade 5 years ago!:D

Doc Faustus

05-08-2011, 07:57 AM

So I just found out today that they are remaking the original Hellraiser. WHAT THE HELL:mad:! The original is perfect as is and them touching it is unneeded. I never understood why the industry remakes all ready GREAT horror films. If any thing they should remake the crappy ones that had good Ideas but needed better write/directors/budgets. Don't get me wrong I have like in the past a few remakes such as the hills have eyes, and Texas chainsaw massacre. All though I never saw the original so that is probably why I liked them. Now if it was jaws that I would go for just because of the new technology out there. Though I would want a new story line that dose not relate to the original. The horror industry really needs to start producing better horror. The last movie that I was obsessed with was the Hamilton. the last movie that kept me from sleeping was the sixth sense and the ring so they need to produce better one because I'm pretty easy to scare. What dose every one else think!?:confused:

Get informed. See the original versions. They've done worse things to better movies. And check out the HDC top lists if you're looking for something scary and interesting. If they do remake Hellraiser, the only thing I could see them doing for it would be to make it more like the novella it was based on. Hellraiser is itself an adaptation. To adapt again from the same source material is not unheard of. Look at Christopher Nolan's Batman movies for example. It was done so that a new slant could be taken on the source material. Jaws also originated from a book. If you have something new to say about Peter Benchley's novel, it might be worth remaking Jaws. If you want a CGI shark that probably won't even look as cool as the original shark, there's no reason to bother.

Fearonsarms

05-08-2011, 01:51 PM

I've decided out of spite that when a remake comes out I will buy the original on dvd for all my friends. If loads of people do this-I believe we will be sending them the right message-in addition if the original is available for free online I will post its link to anyone considering watching the remake-"you want to watch a remake of hellraiser?-save your money and watch the original for free here-etc etc"

saturday_bell

05-08-2011, 02:20 PM

Hey I'm just stating my opinion. I think there are other movies that could benefit from remakes. But like I said I'm just stating my opinion. And I don't particularly like movies before the 80's except for a couple of 70's. I don't know why. I know there is a lot of good ones out there. My attention span is short so With some movies I have a hard time making it to the good parts. And jaws I wouldn't want CGI. I would want mechanical like the original but with some more shark footage and the technology now I think would benefit more in the making.

leezuki

08-26-2011, 11:12 AM

i think a remake might be good. i have only watched 1 to 4, i would lke to watch the rest of them. i heard inferno is suposed to be good but not shure what the rest would are like. i like the original alot so i can see why alot of people would be against it, but a revamp of it could work i think.

William Seabrook

08-26-2011, 01:23 PM

Get informed. If they do remake Hellraiser, the only thing I could see them doing for it would be to make it more like the novella it was based on.

I agree I wouldn't mind a complete remake that went back to the original novella, but I really wouldn't want to see a remake of the film itself. I remember a while back someone remade psycho scene for scene. I never saw it, why bother when I'd already seen Hitchcocks. But taken from a new angle it could be really cool. Some of the later Hellraiser films really started to suck. Maybe they could do for Hellraiser what the remakes did for Batman. (After Tim Burton left it was all downhill for the original series, the new Batman's jumpstarted the whole thing again.)

Devastating

08-26-2011, 03:23 PM

Personally the Hellraiser Series is still on of my Favorites..Although I thought Hellworld Sucked.In my opinion by far the worst of the series.
I wouldnt mind watching a re-make of the original.:)

Bizarre

08-26-2011, 05:13 PM

Once anything that wasn't originally based in space goes there, I give up on the franchise. It is just a terrible idea.

Hellraiser and Hellraiser 2 were both very good. Hellraiser 3 sucked because they just gave up and made it another stupid slasher movie. I believe it was the 4th one that was in space, that was pretty dire. I've not seen any since then.

I think a remake would be a bad idea. I can see the demon who chases Kirsty through Hell (The Engineer?) and the hobo-dragon being bad CGI which would be a mistake. I just think that the original was pretty much perfect for its day and the gory/splattery parts will seem overdone for gross-out value with modern special effects.

Fearonsarms

08-27-2011, 03:28 AM

Funnily I just watched Hellraiser:Inferno-it had very little to do with Hellraiser at all basically it was a different film with pinhead thrown in to cash in. Still gotta watch 6-8 though.

leezuki

08-27-2011, 08:01 AM

Funnily I just watched Hellraiser:Inferno-it had very little to do with Hellraiser at all basically it was a different film with pinhead thrown in to cash in. Still gotta watch 6-8 though.

did you like inferno ?

i still want to watch it, i heard alot of good things about it.

Rela1024

08-28-2011, 09:05 AM

I need to see a trailer or something to judge wether or not it's gonna be good I do agree with another person it should be a sequel or prequel rather than a remake buuuuttt.....we'll see

Fearonsarms

08-30-2011, 11:42 AM

did you like inferno ?

i still want to watch it, i heard alot of good things about it.

Goodness its difficult to recommend it-having just watched watched part 6-Hellseeker which at least had Kirsty (ashley laurence) in it. They are very similar-there's just too much "unreality" in them that when their climaxes are revealed you just don't care-they are very hard to watch-not engrossing at all. I have a gut feeling that you wouldnt like either of them. Oh and I just watched part 7-Deader and that was much much better so I'd actually recommend that instead-I just need to see part 8-Hellworld to complete the set.

Devastating

09-03-2011, 05:03 PM

Yeah I agree about Hellraiser Deaders..I thought It was a good Movie.:).Shame I cant say the same about Inferno or Hellworld.

Doc Faustus

09-04-2011, 09:31 AM

I think they should have stopped after Hellraiser 2. In 3, Pinhead's priorities were skewed. If the whole world is Hell, Cenobites become moot. The point of Hellbound Heart and Hellraiser is that somebody sought out the ultimate experience and they got it and paid dearly for it. Pinhead has no reason to conquer the world. Bloodline created a cosmology and history that didn't entirely need to be there. Inferno is cool for adding noir elements into the equation, but it didn't need to be a Hellraiser movie. I would have preferred new, fresh demons. Hellseeker also didn't need to be a Hellraiser film. Deader I will admit I haven't seen. Hellworld was confusing, stupid and patronizing. It feels like Hellraiser was cut and pasted onto it. Revelations has made Clive Barker really angry. If you like Barker and you like Hellraiser, don't contribute money to making it an even worse franchise. Just say no. Shut the box before more crap comes out of it.

Fearonsarms

09-06-2011, 01:46 PM

You should watch Deaders it was the reward for fans who persevered with Inferno and Hellseeker but I agree that the first two were the best. Having just seen the awful Hellworld I don't think I can take anymore.

_____V_____

09-13-2011, 10:17 AM

It looks like Hellraiser is headed for the seventh circle of development hell.

The project has already been through more directors than Pinhead’s got through souls, and now the latest additions – Drive Angry duo Todd Farmer and Patrick Lussier – have dropped out.

We’re not sure why they left, but it might have something to do with the fact the production company behind the remake – those lovely Weinsteins – want it to be a PG-13.

Which probably means slightly less skin-flaying than in the original. Rendering it just a little bit pointless.

Still, we're sure this isn't the last we'll hear from the project. After all, the atrocious Hellraiser: Revelations was made so the brothers could hang on to the remake rights.

Is it just us, or does this feel a little bit like Pinhead's become sentient and is ushering in a new Hell on earth via the medium of Hellraiser sequels?

henke

09-15-2011, 08:31 AM

Hellraiser was a pretty solid horror movie. Can't really see the need for a remake. But I want to see the final result with my own eyes before I complain about the new version. I'll at least give it a chance.

shadyJ

10-25-2013, 03:10 AM

Yup, a Hellraiser remake might be in the works (http://collider.com/clive-barker-hellraiser-remake-doug-bradley/), maybe, with Clive Barker writing and Doug Bradley back as Pinhead. ...

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..OK that PG-13 thing might have been an exaggeration on my part. Just a little something to make sure you are awake. Look at it this way, I made the news extra good for you when you realized there was no way this Hellraiser is going to be PG-13 because you went from extreme disappointment to extreme delight instead of just a baseline to regular delight. You can't fully appreciate the peak of the mountains until you have been to the bottom of the valley.

Oh crap, looks like this is old news!

TheFext

10-29-2013, 12:15 AM

So is this movie going to happen or not?!?!?!

Tahrgat

12-10-2013, 04:15 PM

Clive Barker wrote the Hellbound Heart. He adapted that into the original Hellraiser. He directed the original Hellraiser so keenly because he knew how it was meant to happen. It was his baby and every sequel that followed just bastardized the mythos more and more. Unless Clive Barker directs this new one then it most likely wont turn out right. Only on rare occasions in the past have Clive Barker stories transitioned to cinema properly. Unfortunately I have found that a film is only as good as its director. On rare occasions that rule is broken, but not often enough for me to have hope for this film.

ChronoGrl

12-11-2013, 09:43 AM

I find the original movie to be overrated.

LOVE the Cenobites but hate pretty much everything else.

Damn Heathen

09-01-2014, 11:45 PM

The remake is on the back burner as Barker works on the script for Zombies vs. Gladiators.

tfantasy

09-04-2014, 12:14 AM

Instead of a remake, I would rather see it as a story that is tied into the original. I'm not going to bitch about remakes because it is what it is, I just wish writers would be more creative and focus more on tying into originals. Just think of the fantastic movies that could be created this way.

utahman1971

10-17-2014, 06:06 PM

Baron Von Marlon

11-03-2014, 09:16 PM

“I think the phrase is ‘reboot,’ although I’ve never really understood what that meant,” he says. “I wanted to make sure we sounded some fresh notes. The movie actually begins on Devil’s Island. I wanted to fold into the Hellraiser narrative something about the guy—the Frenchman Lemarchand—who made the mysterious box, which raises Pinhead. I figured, ‘Well, what would have happened to him?’ He might well have been taken to Devil’s Island and I thought that would be a pretty cool place to start the movie. We’re waiting for Bob to come back to us and see when we’re going to actually make the movie.”

Source: http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3319930/whats-latest-clive-barkers-hellraiser/

Could be interesting.
Does anyone knows what Devil's Island is?

ImmortalSlasher

11-06-2014, 09:18 AM

I had to look up Devil's Island when I read that news story a few days ago. I look forward to the remake. I just watched almost all of the Hellraiser movies last month. I passed on Part 9. At least for now. I'll post mini reviews soon in the watched area.

MrOhNo

11-10-2014, 08:32 PM

As long as Doug Bradley plays Pinhead, I will totally watch another hellraiser. As other's have already noted, I fear for its quality. I am however in support of a remake for hellraiser since I feel a couple scenes were weak and some plot points brought up later on in the series could have been hinted or suggested earlier in the series. There seemed very loosey goosey and awkward ways/times for things to be elaborated. I loved hellraiser series, especially the original quartet of cenobites so getting to rewatch them again would be such a sight.

MrOhNo

11-10-2014, 08:39 PM

If this is definitely PG-13, then I am going to skip it. It had gore in the original, and if they take it out, then it ruins the whole concept of this movie. I will not watch a washed down from the original horror movie. This is getting stupid with PG-13 horror taking over.

I have a hard time believing anyone could even conceive a PG13 hellraiser with all the bdsm outfits and self-mutilation that constitute the characters' visual designs (leaving out the gore in the movies aside).

ImmortalSlasher

11-11-2014, 02:43 PM

It would be a load of crap if the Hellraiser remake is watered down for PG-13. Wasn't the Evil Dead remake even R? Hellraiser calls for R if not a bit more.

horcrux2007

11-11-2014, 03:12 PM

It would be a load of crap if the Hellraiser remake is watered down for PG-13. Wasn't the Evil Dead remake even R? Hellraiser calls for R if not a bit more.

I didn't think the original Hellraiser was nearly as gory as the original Evil Dead, and I don't see how they could possibly make a remake gorier than the new Evil Dead and still have an R rating.

Jake.Ashworth

02-05-2015, 04:37 AM

A PG-13 remake would ruin everything that was amazing about "The Hellbound Heart". The book was incredible and gritty and gory. I would see it no matter what as I am a huge pinhead fan, but it wouldn't be right if they didn't show hooks piercing skin. Hell, the premise calls for to much gore for PG-13. The story revolves around a skinless man half of the film. I just pray they don't CG the cenobites. If there are CG cenobites, I will stop watching movies, forever. I cross my fingers that Clive Barker wouldn't allow them to destroy his vision.

anglewitch

02-05-2015, 05:47 AM

vampyd1977

02-05-2015, 06:01 AM

NO just no, some things cant be redone. i wont stand for it.

anglewitch

02-05-2015, 06:13 AM

AGREED! ::danger:: ::danger:: ::mad:: ::mad::

Jake.Ashworth

02-06-2015, 07:20 AM

I agree some things shouldn't be redone. But I back a lot of remakes strictly to bring the classics to a fresh audience. I am perfectly happy seeing a remake of Hellraiser as long as it does Pinhead justice. It needs to be visceral. It needs to make your stomach turn and make it hard to sleep. I grew up watching low budget and classic horror movies with my dad. I saw every Hellraiser that went to theaters the day it came out. I watched The Toxic Avenger with my dad when I was six. The problem is, if you take the original Hellraiser and throw it up on a HD TV, the younger generation will immediately lose interest because it doesn't look good. At the end of the day, if the younger generation cant grasp classic horror and we don't introduce it to them in a format that they can appreciate we will slowly see the extinction on good, dirty, real horror and all that will be left is Paranormal Activity...

Rant, done.

anglewitch

02-06-2015, 07:30 AM

How can you remake perfect?! People don't ever use their imagination anymore. I can probably wip up a short presentation by using my imagination.

Jake.Ashworth

02-06-2015, 09:58 AM

A remake does not always constitute a recreation. I want the same basic storyline but updated. I want to see the skinless man in true high definition. I really want to see the cenobites in all their glory. As long as Clive Barker is involved and does not let them CGI the movie to hell, I think I will be happy with it. I cant stand the use of CGI when it isn't needed. The original was beautiful, it was a masterpiece. That does not mean that it couldn't be better and more relevant to a modern audience. And this is coming from a guy that spent $500 on a functioning puzzle box.

anglewitch

02-06-2015, 10:00 AM

Remake will bring destruction upon a good movie.

Jake.Ashworth

02-06-2015, 01:15 PM

We will have to agree to disagree. Just saw the trailer for the Poltergeist remake, it looks like Sam Raimi did a great job with that one.

DR. DOOM

02-08-2015, 04:36 PM

Damn it so hellraiser is also being remade!! I noticed they are remaking The Gate.

Jake.Ashworth

02-09-2015, 04:03 AM

The Gate? That was a great movie. Hope they do it well. With remakes, its a lot on the director to get the feel of the movie right. Do you know who is doing it?

DR. DOOM

02-09-2015, 04:22 AM

I do not know who is making it, but I do know that the same person who designed the aliens in aliens is the one who is designing the monsters.

anglewitch

02-09-2015, 04:47 AM

^(&%$*%&(*$(!!! So now they are remaking The Gate. when is it going to end.

Jake.Ashworth

02-09-2015, 04:57 AM

Good back end talent makes good movies. Ive expressed my satisfaction with remakes. I wouldn't mind being able to bring The Gate to my kids. Hopefully that's what will happen. Or they will destroy it and we will still have the original to love.

anglewitch

02-09-2015, 06:09 AM

Yeah, I too have the original gate, and gate two.

Jake.Ashworth

02-09-2015, 06:13 AM

Well there you go, let them make the remake and if its bad you still have the original. But if its great, then we have a new horror film to help introduce our youngsters to the genre. Horror is broken, the current generation has little to no real good horror to be exposed to unless they go out of their way to find good B stuff. We need quality main stream horror to step back into the spotlight and if remakes make that possible then so be it. Remember, the majority of the people who end up seeing a remake more than likely have never seen the original and if they enjoy it, they will probably seek out the original giving it new life.