Did anyone actually like Wolf Creek and Hostel? [Archive] - Horror.com Forums

dicconzane

10-06-2006, 12:40 AM

I can't think of any other films where I've checked my watch so many times. There are only so many times you can show that the heros are alone, and still alone, and still alone and cut off from the rest of the world, and still alone and cut off from the rest of the world with no chance of help, and still alone and cut off with no chance of help not for a long time, and still etc etc... before you start wondering if the seat you're sitting on would fit down the person that dragged you to see the film's throat... or perhaps somewhere else.
I love horror and feed off the suspense but any sense of foreboding had long since turned to boredom. I know it's a horror film so I DO know there will be guts and gore. If I have to wait to have any slight attempt to actually scare or shock me till the last 10 minutes of a film, even if they then try to cram as much in as they can, I'm already so bored it has no impact. And to be honest the guts and gore thing wasn't great for me anyway. We see worse on the news and in the papers.
But anyway, rant now spent, DID anyone enjoy these films?

bwind22

10-06-2006, 12:57 AM

I liked Wolf Creek a lot. It reminded me of a modern day Texas chainsaw Massacre or something along those lines with it's gritty feel.

Hostel seemed like too much of a Saw knockoff for me to really get in to, but the scene in the locker room where he's talking to the dude, that dialogue is awesome & I'd be willing to bet anything Tarantino wrote it.

urgeok

10-06-2006, 02:45 AM

havent watched hostel yet .. saw Wolf Creek - thought it was ok..

The_Return

10-06-2006, 03:14 AM

I shall expand on this later, but the short answer:

Wolf Creek was pretty good.

Hostel sucked.

alkytrio666

10-06-2006, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by The_Return
I shall expand on this later, but the short answer:

Wolf Creek was pretty good.

Hostel sucked.

My thoughts exactly. But I'd add the word "balls" after 'sucked' for Hostel.

noctuary

10-06-2006, 04:46 AM

I did like Wolf Creek. It was nothing groundbreaking by any means, but it wasn't a bad film. The villain was definitely the most memorable part of the film.

Hostel, on the other hand... To put it mildly, this movie wasn't too good. I don't think I've ever seen such a repellent cast of characters. This was a major step back for Eli Roth, for sure.

VampiricClown

10-06-2006, 05:04 AM

Haven't watched Wolf Creek yet.

Hostel wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

The Mothman

10-06-2006, 05:15 AM

Wolf Creek=good. i thought it was pretty creepy.

Hostel=pretty bad. second half was decent though. but the whole plot turned out to be pretty gay.

Vodstok

10-06-2006, 05:40 AM

Wolf Creek, Not bad until the stupid disclaimer at the end. you go through the whole thing thinking "How the hell did anyone know all of this happened?" only to get to the end and know, it's prbably a bunch of bullshit that some guy made up to cover for the fact that he probably killed 2 girls.

Hostel... promised gut wrenching torture, but more or less pusse dout with most of it. it was inspiring from the viewpoint of "Good idea, but i could do SO much better..." and Holy shit.. Someone get Eli Roth a girl who will actually fuck him, for christ's sake...

It is verty akward to sit through a movie like that with your wife.. tooo Many tits, i know this is me, but jesus christ.. Maybe when i was single i could have accepted it, but i wanted brutal torture and instead i got 45 minutes of jackoff material leading to some special effects.

crazy raplh

10-06-2006, 05:46 AM

I would have to say the same about these movies. Hostel was gay.

VampiricClown

10-06-2006, 05:46 AM

Originally posted by Vodstok

It is verty akward to sit through a movie like that with your wife.. tooo Many tits, i know this is me, but jesus christ.. Maybe when i was single i could have accepted it, but i wanted brutal torture and instead i got 45 minutes of jackoff material leading to some special effects.

Haha, watching that movie with any female is very awkward. My girlfriend wanted to watch it with me. We watched the first 20 minutes of it, I got embarressed and turned it off. I think she knows why, but she kept bugging me about it and it's still in our "To Watch" stack of films. :(

VampiricClown

10-06-2006, 05:48 AM

Originally posted by crazy raplh
I would have to say the same about these movies. Hostel was gay.

Literally. Have you read all of the critical letters in Fangoria for the past few months? It's all about Hostel and it's reference to the words "Fag", "Gay" and "Homo". Very sad indeed, although that IS normal talk for any teenager.

urgeok

10-06-2006, 07:42 AM

Roderick Usher

10-06-2006, 08:44 AM

Liked Wolf Creek - nice slow burn and the "head on a stick" line is wonderfully chilling.

Really liked Hostel - the idea of someone paying more to torture an American over any other nationality makes this the most subversive film to come out of Hollywood in a while. A real indictment of the "ugly American."

urgeok

10-06-2006, 08:45 AM

how much for a Canadian ?

couple of food stamps and a bus ticket ?

Vodstok

10-06-2006, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by urgeok
how much for a Canadian ?

couple of food stamps and a bus ticket ? they pay you :p

Roderick Usher

10-06-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by urgeok
how much for a Canadian ?

couple of food stamps and a bus ticket ?

generally not worth the effort:D

urgeok

10-06-2006, 08:57 AM

lets face it boys ..

people love us, they'd never torture us in the 1st place.

ok .. the truth is ..

we're fucking invisible. people would have to notice you to torture you.

Vodstok

10-06-2006, 09:06 AM

America: We are the world's only superpower! Do you have a problem? We will fix it! Love us! Look at us! AHHHH! Shoot at us! Come on, bitch, we can take it.

Canada: (looking down) What a moron...

urgeok

10-06-2006, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Vodstok
America: We are the world's only superpower! Do you have a problem? We will fix it! Love us! Look at us! AHHHH! Shoot at us! Come on, bitch, we can take it.

Canada: (looking down) What a moron...

no - we look down and say 'jesus christ i hope they never get pissed at us'

its like having a psycho big brother.

Vodstok

10-06-2006, 10:09 AM

Why would we get mad at you guys? you would have to start assailing us with beavers strapped with dirty bombs and WMDs. they would then gnaw away at out mighty forests (the ones we havent logged yet). then if a mounty or a moose tried to kil GW senior, then we may have a war on our hands.

Of course, georgy probably looks ta canada on a map and thinks "man, that country is huge. and right over us! man, if we do anything to it, it may come loose and squish us!"

urgeok

10-06-2006, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Vodstok
Why would we get mad at you guys? you would have to start assailing us with beavers strapped with dirty bombs and WMDs. they would then gnaw away at out mighty forests (the ones we havent logged yet). then if a mounty or a moose tried to kil GW senior, then we may have a war on our hands.

Of course, georgy probably looks ta canada on a map and thinks "man, that country is huge. and right over us! man, if we do anything to it, it may come loose and squish us!"

so when exactly are you moving your family up here ?

lemme know - we'll grab lunch and i'll show you around the place :)

Nikkif8

10-06-2006, 01:20 PM

I think they both sucked and were a total let down. I had heard they both were so good and I do not agree one bit.
Both had bad acting, bad lines, not as much gore and creepiness I had anticipated.
Huge letdown!!

bbeastieboy

10-06-2006, 03:07 PM

<3 hostel
never seen wolf creek

paws the great

10-06-2006, 04:03 PM

Wolf Creek is ok.
I love Hostel.

The_Return

10-06-2006, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by Roderick Usher
Really liked Hostel - the idea of someone paying more to torture an American over any other nationality makes this the most subversive film to come out of Hollywood in a while. A real indictment of the "ugly American."

I completly agree; It's a fantastic idea. Too bad it was so poorly executed.

Both of these films are basically different sides of the same coin. Both spent a good portion of the film on character development. Both tried to show a darker side of human nature, without straying very far from the relm of the "possible".

The major difference, to me at least, is that Wolf Creek could actually pull it off.

There are a few minor spoilers here and there through this post, but nothing major.

Hostel's character development was entirely pointless. It failed to make the characters believable in the least (plus dumber than your average slasher fodder), and the incredibly flat acting really didnt help that fact. Plus, they managed to fill the movie with more tits than most softcore porn. By the time we got to the "payoff", I had lost all interest in the film. A potentially great concept, dragged through the mud. It had a few things going for it (The scene where Paxon is escaping and has a conversation with one of the toturers was genius), but not enough.

Wolf Creek on the other hand created some very realistic and sympathetic characters. The actors made them believable, likeable, and above all real, where Hostel totally missed the mark. By the time the shit started to fly, you actually liked these people to some extent. You even had started to like the killer, which made it all the more eerie. It did have flaws of course (Borrowed ALOT from Texas Chainsaw), but overall was MUCH better than Hostel.

See? I told you I'd expand on what I said.

newb

10-06-2006, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Vodstok
Why would we get mad at you guys?

ahem....................
http://www.onlineseats.com/upload/concerts/14_con_celine-dion-featured.jpg

I liked Hostel....didn't see Wolf Creek....yet

roshiq

10-06-2006, 10:02 PM

Wolf Creek
>>: C

Hostel
>>: D

horrormad

10-07-2006, 01:38 AM

i havent seen any of those but i love gore hence being a george a romero fan.
also i heard that hostel is just plain sick. if it is im more tempted to buy it?

feral cat

10-07-2006, 01:51 AM

Both films where pretty mediocre affairs in my opinion and neither lived up to its super gory sick hype at all. Wolf creep has a slight edge on Hostel though I think because the guy that plays the killer gives a great performance

urgeok

10-07-2006, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by feral cat
Both films where pretty mediocre affairs in my opinion and neither lived up to its super gory sick hype at all. Wolf creep has a slight edge on Hostel though I think because the guy that plays the killer gives a great performance

he made an effective switch from a rotund, jovial good old boy to a psycho .. especially at the time of the stare at the guy around the campfire

alkytrio666

10-07-2006, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Nikkif8
[Wolf Creek] had bad acting, bad lines

I strongly disagree. I think the dialogue/acting in Wolf Creek was very good. Very realistic, and not at all over the top.

Hostel, on the other hand...Jesus, it was horrible.

mikel1021

10-07-2006, 10:52 AM

In my mind anything that is actually able to happen is always more scary then the fantastical, getting lost in the back country and having a strange man do all that stuff seems more able to happen then a man who can enter your dreams and kill you. which makes it scarier.

psycho_butthead

10-07-2006, 02:23 PM

wolf creek was okay but i hated hostel.

JP500

10-07-2006, 02:49 PM

I've seen Hostel but never bothered with Wolf Creek.

The Flayed One

10-08-2006, 02:25 AM

I enjoyed Wolf Creek. Nothing fancy, just good ol gritty fun Down Under.

I don't think Hostel is as bad as a lot of people proclaim it to be. Very disappointing, but not terrible. When they tout something to be the most gut wrenching, disgusting thing to come along in a long time, they forget that a lot of the hardcore horror crowd watches shit like The Guinea Pig series. Hell, gore-wise it doesn't even live up to Cabin Fever standards.

dicconzane

10-09-2006, 12:39 AM

Hostel as jerk off material? You're kidding right? I watched it with my girlfriend and spoken to other girls about it. None have been bothered by it, in fact most have agreed even that was poorly done. I mean, if its core were much softer on the sex side it'd be marshmallow. I wouldn't say I was uncomfortable about it... bored by i maybe but not uncomfortable. Hell I see better than that on an average Saturday night out... Sunday... Monday... Tuesday etc etc. So if you think that's good believe me there's plenty out there that will blow your mind.

punk666

10-09-2006, 04:10 AM

i watched hostel for the 1st time the other night n i got bored half way through it that i turned it off, n i dont like when peoples eyes get cut n stuff in films n people were telling me that the eye bit in hostel was really bad but when i watched it i was like is that it?

Vodstok

10-09-2006, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by dicconzane
Hostel as jerk off material? You're kidding right? I watched it with my girlfriend and spoken to other girls about it. None have been bothered by it, in fact most have agreed even that was poorly done. I mean, if its core were much softer on the sex side it'd be marshmallow. I wouldn't say I was uncomfortable about it... bored by i maybe but not uncomfortable. Hell I see better than that on an average Saturday night out... Sunday... Monday... Tuesday etc etc. So if you think that's good believe me there's plenty out there that will blow your mind. Perhaps none of them saw the unrated version then. i think return had the best reviews on both so far.

the point wasnt that there were lots of tits, its that they promised horrific torture, then flopped around 30 or so pairs of tits. oh yeah, then some horror.

Burning in Hell

10-10-2006, 06:52 AM

Well, I for one enjoyed Hostel, although it is far from a classic by any accounts. Thing is, I saw a couple of reviews about it saying that it was a kind of mix between American Pie and Saw before seing it. So I entered the movie theater knowing what to expect and I it delivered just that. I saw this with my girlfriend, and she was not disgusted at all by the first part.

The opposite thing happened with Wolf Creek. I was so looking forward to this one, as it was hailed as very intense and disturbing, and it failed miserably on both points in my book. Good acting and character development, sure, but that's the only good thing it had in my opinion. Nothing remotely intense or disturbing in this one if you ask me.

swiss tony

10-10-2006, 07:37 AM

liked wolf creek a lot for its claustrophobic helpless atmosphere. liked hostel for its over the top humourous violence. don't know if the director would be happy that i enjoyed it on a comedy level

ENTITY2000

10-10-2006, 07:42 AM

i liked hostel! that was a pretty fucked up but yet great movie!

i didn't know they called a hotel that though:o

bwind22

10-10-2006, 11:47 PM

i liked hostel! that was a pretty fucked up but yet great movie!

i didn't know they called a hotel that though:o

There is a slight difference between Hostels and Hotels. In a hotel, you rent a room. In a hostel, you rent a spot to sleep, but you might be on the bottom bunk with a total stranger on the top bunk and two other total strangers in the other bunk bed right next to yours. You don't usually get your own room and the privacy is very minimal, but staying at hostels is waaaaay cheaper than staying at hotels.

the_real_linda

10-11-2006, 11:06 AM

wolf creek was better me thinks....hostel is good in retrospect.....but i was slightly disapointed whilst watching it, the eye bit was good tho. i cared more about the people in wolf creek but i wouldnt rush out and buy other on dvd.

slayer666

10-19-2006, 12:15 PM

I thought Wolf Creek was okay. I have no need to run out and buy it, but it was worth the rental. On the other hand, I thought Hostel was terrible. Overhyped, fairly boring, and just all around pointless.

AmericanManiac

10-19-2006, 01:48 PM

Do you know how many times I checked my watch reading that nonsense ?
I enjoyed Hostel, and Wolf Creek was "OK" nothing great except the "Head on a Stick"

PhilnEdee

10-19-2006, 05:21 PM

I don't "not like" many movies...these two are on the no good list for me though.

lovecraft

10-21-2006, 06:15 AM

I didn't care for Hostel. The characters were so damn annoying. Never did care for them. But the thing with the feet grossed me out...

slayer666

10-21-2006, 07:08 AM

lovecraft, your comment made me think of something. I think the main reason I liked Wolf Creek better than Hostel was that it did a better job of making me care about the characters. In my opinion, a horror film that doesn't elicit feelings of sympathy for the main characters is not going to work.

PhilnEdee

10-21-2006, 08:14 AM

On the top "Even scarieir movie moments"...they had Hostel at #1...load of bull.
I have figured out though that whichever actor, writer, director...etc...they can get to be on that show...they are obligated to use parts of thier movie...thus Open Water being in the top 10-the two bobbing shark bait actors...def enjoyed the version of this that Bruce Campbell did last year.

mattalgrand

10-23-2006, 04:52 PM

I loved Wolf Creek.
I thought Hostel was a lazy attempt at an interesting concept.

The Demeter

10-24-2006, 06:00 AM

I enjoyed Wolf Creek. I really like the killer. He was so charming.
Hostel was okay, it had some really nice parts and I liked the story, i just didnt care for how it was done.

the_real_linda

10-24-2006, 09:08 AM

exactly! hit the dumb blonde cheerleader on the head!

joshaube

10-26-2006, 01:36 PM

Like most people here...
I liked Wolf Creek.
I didn't like Hostel.

the_real_linda

10-26-2006, 01:41 PM

and i always felt like hostel looked like it was going to be so much better than it was.........i still feel cheated

Gerbzilla

10-26-2006, 01:50 PM

I enjoyed em both and can't see anythink like sew in hostal at all, I just like the brutalness in hostal and thank god there was no twist in it like every film these days just streaght dont give a fuck killings....

illdojo

10-26-2006, 07:49 PM

I liked both....Wolf Creek is a little slow at first, but turns into a creepy movie. I thought Hostel was cheesy but super violent. It has some intense torture scenes ...I really liked it. I'm surprised more people on this site didn't like it.

sadman

10-26-2006, 08:11 PM

[SPOILER ALERT]

To be honist I though they were both crap.

Hostel was just random gore and was boring and the characters seemed so bland.

Wolf creet made you sleep for the first half of the movie. Then a random happy chap comes along and kills them all. I just don't understand why hes killin' them? It seems he must be some guy who likes killing peopel I suppose. But I wanted him to use that screw driver on the girl he tied up but he didnt :(

Oh and look at the part were he shoots tha car tyre and keep replaying it and you will se the car turns on its side then suddenley spins all the way round. This is just lazy editing and then the car has no scratches or anything. It is pretty poor but seriusly. Isn't it intense and the best line "Thats not a knife, this, this is a knife" and then "dont worry its not gonna kill you, its just a cut" And here fingers are chopped of :D

Me and my mate watched it and my mate is a complete wuss. He had nightmares over FINAL DESTINATION 3 ... hahahaha

Anyway, he thought it was really scary but, zzz BORING!

Anyway thats what my views are, who agrees with me? :confused:

sadman

10-27-2006, 10:25 AM

no one gonan reply?

scouse mac

10-27-2006, 12:20 PM

Wolf Creek was very good, slowly built up a relationship with the chararcters and the psycho was the sort of bloke you could enjoy a pint with down the local boozer.

Hostel was ok but it relied on the fact that people were being tortured as the shock component, at no time did I feel any sort of sympathy for the wankers being tortured or was any effort put into building up some tension.

Dee Hart

10-28-2006, 07:54 AM

havent watched hostel yet .. saw Wolf Creek - thought it was ok..

I haven't seen either one yet, but wolf creek has been of starz last nite
and it was okay from the short time that I watched it.

slayer666

10-28-2006, 08:02 AM

Hostel was ok but it relied on the fact that people were being tortured as the shock component, at no time did I feel any sort of sympathy for the wankers being tortured or was any effort put into building up some tension.

Exactly! No tension, no growing dread, and no concern for the welfare of the main characters. As bad as Cabin Fever was, I liked it more than this mess.

sadman

10-28-2006, 02:33 PM

Exactly! No tension, no growing dread, and no concern for the welfare of the main characters. As bad as Cabin Fever was, I liked it more than this mess.

True!

Cabin fever was betetr than both!
Hostel was a pile of crap thats the biggest thing that hit mean, it was so over rated.

SPOLIER!

And on Wolf creet would someone reply to me about when he shoots the car wheel of the car and then it tumbles upside down but then it suddenly has another bolt from now were at rights its self, please look at that area, its so dodgy. I want to write a letter ot the director about it and how they should have redone it cause it looks so fake!

Anyone agree?

Tad

10-28-2006, 02:36 PM

I loved Wolf Creek and hated Hostel. And 'hate' is not too strong a word either. Fantastic concept, terrible execution.

EarthSlayer

11-01-2006, 07:58 PM

I really liked WOLF CREEK. I liked the dept of the charcters and the dialog not to mention that I felt that the villian was as good a villian as I have seen in quite a while. It also seemed like somthing that could have been a real serial killer case not only in the way the script was layed out and felt but also it just pulled me into the scenes and made me want to protect the girls and kill the sick fuck myself. Really good movie.

HOSTEL was plain and simply flat out lame!!

Morbid Fantasy

11-01-2006, 09:12 PM

IMO, Wolf Creek didn't have a lot to offer, but it was very different from typical horror movies so I had to give it a lot of props. I especially was pretty surprised with the ending...just didn't expect it to end in that kind of a way.

Hostel wasn't bad. Though, I expected a bit more but the storyline behind it was terrific.

SCARECROW

11-02-2006, 12:55 AM

They werent dat Gud. I thawt they wuld off been a lot better

stinking_dylan

11-02-2006, 03:28 AM

I quite liked wolf creek. Reminded me a little of TCM, probably just due to it being the australian outback.

I haven't seen hostel. Just having QTs name on the front put me off.

swiss tony

11-02-2006, 03:48 AM

i agree. similar atmosphere to TCM. and a really good bad guy, like TCM. the hostel, on the other hand, was described as a splatter version of american pie and i can see where they're coming from. strange how some films make you want the bad guy to get his trash taken out and others make you want the victims to get whats coming to them. i think these two films are examples of both types. definitely thought wolf creeks baddie was top notch:D

scaryminda15

11-03-2006, 03:48 AM

the grudge and bad news bears talk about rude and boring.

the_real_linda

11-04-2006, 03:50 AM

the original grudge gets a thumbs up but sarah michelles bad japanese gets a thumbs down....anyone seen the piss take out of her in scary movie four?

melaniepants

11-05-2006, 03:47 PM

Wolf creek was pretty god not the best movie ive ever seen but it was good. The last 30 minutes of hostel were great!:confused:

Elvis_Christ

11-05-2006, 04:53 PM

Yeh Hostel ended up pretty cool. But fuck.... weren't they some of the most unlikeable characters ever! KILL THEM :)

JP500

11-05-2006, 05:51 PM

I watched Wolf Creek on the Starz channel a few weeks ago.I thought it was a good movie(alot better than Hostel anyway).

GetrDone

11-06-2006, 12:17 AM

I havn't watched hostel yet but I've seen wolf creek and I didn't care too much for it really. I Have Hostel, just need to get around to watching it.

Disease

11-09-2006, 01:55 PM

They where both good, I should watch them both again

acenobitesgod

11-09-2006, 04:23 PM

hostel fucking blows!

wolf creek wasn't bad though.

BASSI

11-30-2006, 12:46 AM

i didn't like them that much but i would say Hostel was better in the last half hour of movie,

i didn't like wolf creek at all

did anyone die in that movie?

tcardenas

11-30-2006, 04:37 AM

hostel wasnt that good. wolf creek wasnt that good. overall, both movies were not good. i rented both from work and was disappointed. i even told our video manager that. she didnt care too much.

DEATHH DREAMS author

11-30-2006, 03:32 PM

I loved Wolf Creek. Everybody said it was slow, silly, etc, but I dug it. Have not seen Hostel...

tcardenas

11-30-2006, 04:38 PM

i havent seen any of those but i love gore hence being a george a romero fan.
also i heard that hostel is just plain sick. if it is im more tempted to buy it?
what are you defining as sick? .. cuz, theres some gore, but not a heck of a lot. kind of a let down in that area.

Spec7ral

12-01-2006, 04:46 PM

these are movies to scare people who go travelling and are fucking cheesemos. i laughed alot in hostel, the badguy was pretty good i wolfcreek tho, but the movie took too long to get going. i guess that was sort of supposed to be its charm but it was just a little too slow at the onset for my liking, i do pwn it tho, but i wouldnt buy hostel.