View Full Version : Mad Max..Good Horror?
R.C. KITCHENS
10-03-2006, 11:20 PM
I just watched Mad Max again, I realized that there is
a complexity about this film, about horror from both
spectrums of good and evil, being shelled out at one another.
plus, the end reminds me of the first SAW...Mad Max..
Good Horror?
Disease
10-03-2006, 11:24 PM
I've never seen this movie as horror, more sci fi, end of the world type stuff.
So no, not good horror!
bwind22
10-03-2006, 11:47 PM
Um no. Mad Max isn't a horror film, it's a post apocalyptic sci-fi/action film. This is the fist time I've ever heard anyone remotely consider it horror.
meetthecreeper
10-04-2006, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by R.C. KITCHENS
I just watched Mad Max again, I realized that there is
a complexity about this film, about horror from both
spectrums of good and evil, being shelled out at one another.
plus, the end reminds me of the first SAW...Mad Max..
Good Horror?
SAW......Mad Max? how do you make that connection????
urgeok
10-04-2006, 06:55 AM
a lot of head scratchin going on here over that one
Disease
10-04-2006, 07:07 AM
Even when i was too young to tell pt 1 and 2 apart I didn't think it was horror!
Vodstok
10-04-2006, 07:08 AM
I can see what he is getting at. the funny thing is, most people say "Post-apocalyptic" when referring to Mad Max. trhe original was not. it was mildly futuristic, but not end of the world by any stretch.
however, he has a point. think of it in relation to TCM or devil's rejects. A roving band of sickos wander the countryside, killing and raping innocent people because they like it.
Then they over react to someone trying to get away from them and end up murdering a cop's wife and baby.
He then gets horrific revenge on them.
It actually almost qualifies as a "revenge horror" if you squint a little.
it didnt become post-apocalyptic for real until the road warrior.
urgeok
10-04-2006, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
I can see what he is getting at. the funny thing is, most people say "Post-apocalyptic" when referring to Mad Max. trhe original was not. it was mildly futuristic, but not end of the world by any stretch.
however, he has a point. think of it in relation to TCM or devil's rejects. A roving band of sickos wander the countryside, killing and raping innocent people because they like it.
Then they over react to someone trying to get away from them and end up murdering a cop's wife and baby.
He then gets horrific revenge on them.
It actually almost qualifies as a "revenge horror" if you squint a little.
it didnt become post-apocalyptic for real until the road warrior.
well, if murder is the qualifier then the horror genre sure just broadened up ...
i think they are completely oposite in feel and theme.
although not quite apocalyptic, society is in the begining throes of a breakdown on a large scale (and they always say australia will be the last to go.
saw was mostly indoors - confined spaces - mad max is all outdoors..
Mad Max compares to The Fast and Furious far more than Saw
Disease
10-04-2006, 07:16 AM
No, the first was set in the futre if u see it enought times you will read it like a book, i saw it a lot as a little kid in australia, and watched all three again this year, it is definatley set in the future from the start. in my opinion
Vodstok
10-04-2006, 07:20 AM
Okay, you are both right.
urge, i had forgotten about the SAW comparison. although i see the horror connection, it could not be farther away from saw, so i definately agree with you there. Saw was methodical, the villains in Mad Max were just nuts.
Maybe even poo nuts...
But not Poo wang... that is screech's arena.
Disease
10-04-2006, 07:23 AM
So we all agree, or do i need to sik Angry Anderson on you!
urgeok
10-04-2006, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Okay, you are both right.
urge, i had forgotten about the SAW comparison. although i see the horror connection, it could not be farther away from saw, so i definately agree with you there. Saw was methodical, the villains in Mad Max were just nuts.
even then i still think there is an almost measurable criteria for 'feeling' a horror movie vs a action/crime/drama
in an action movie like Mad Max .. generally the crimes are commited to show how bad the bad guys are and pump fuel into the revenge mode of the hero - and us.
in a horror the violence is usually done to make us feel extremely uncomfortable .. stretch our endurance for unpleasantness.
thay arent quick dirty violent deaths like the action films ... these are slow and horrible (thus horror !)
some times you'll see an action film blur the lines (kill bill) but then again - Tarantino has one foot in 70s grindhouse action and one in 70's grindhouse horror .....
Nikkif8
10-04-2006, 07:26 AM
I would not say it's horror either. Sci-fi/action. I still remember seeing Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome at the Drive-In when I was very little!!
Disease
10-04-2006, 07:31 AM
I can'y believe it is such a debate!
It is sci-fi , set in the future, unless you are going to start nameing war films as horror, just because they have torture and slow deaths!
Vodstok
10-04-2006, 07:42 AM
Everything is a horror movie!
The little mermaid, filled with freakish human-fish and human-mollusc hybrids!
High plains drifter.... Oooooo! a ghost! Spoooky!
The Matrix. Killer programs and robots shaped like bugs.
The Stupids. Tom Arnold in a lead role!
urgeok
10-04-2006, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
The little mermaid, filled with freakish human-fish and human-mollusc hybrids!
the fact alone that they talk and sing ...
can you imagine the horror of being out on the lake, 5:00am, you just snag a perch and as you're pulling it into the boat it goes :
"jesus christ you fat bastard, throw me back in, i cant breath - you prick !"
i think most people would feel horror at that point...
meetthecreeper
10-04-2006, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
the fact alone that they talk and sing ...
can you imagine the horror of being out on the lake, 5:00am, you just snag a perch and as you're pulling it into the boat it goes :
"jesus christ you fat bastard, throw me back in, i cant breath - you prick !"
i think most people would feel horror at that point...
Not me. I would just smack the fucker on a rock.
And then say "How you like that BEOTCH"
THen I would cry.
urgeok
10-04-2006, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by meetthecreeper
THen I would cry.
yeah ... i'd cry too if i killed a talking fish ...
think of all the money you could make ..
unless it started singing : 'hello my baby, hello my darlin,"
at that point you'd just throw it back in ..
meetthecreeper
10-04-2006, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
yeah ... i'd cry too if i killed a talking fish ...
think of all the money you could make ..
unless it started singing : 'hello my baby, hello my darlin,"
at that point you'd just throw it back in ..
You obviously have never seen the film "The incredible Mister Limpet."
Watch that and tell me you dont want to kill every fish in the sea.
urgeok
10-04-2006, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by meetthecreeper
You obviously have never seen the film "The incredible Mister Limpet."
Watch that and tell me you dont want to kill every fish in the sea.
i have that very release :)
i love those old pre-tim conway don knotts films :D
Mr. Limpet.........love that one and The Ghost & Mr. Chicken.
Mad Max, I wouldn't consider horror.
Next your gonna tell me "28 Days Later" is a zombie movie.......sheesh.
Vodstok
10-04-2006, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
yeah ... i'd cry too if i killed a talking fish ...
think of all the money you could make ..
unless it started singing : 'hello my baby, hello my darlin,"
at that point you'd just throw it back in .. No. Eat it. you know how the cartoon goes... the evil little fucker would just destroy someone else's life....
imagine picking up a crab with a huge lower lip and a jamaican accent.. THAT is scary...
I used to know a fat ugly woman with tentacles, though. she was my band teacher in high school.
Edit: THIS IS HER! HAH!
im not kidding. Kiddies, this is the face of evil:
http://www.seacoastonline.com/2001news/dover/d7_6.jpg
speaking of hypociritical self-righteous christian zealots....
Disease
10-04-2006, 08:23 AM
When our music teacher walked in the room we used to all say "bums to the wall, Hogans on the crawl!" His name was Mr Hogan you see and he was a red faced fag.
urgeok
10-04-2006, 08:23 AM
i used to work with a woman that looked exactly like the witch .. the octopus witch thing...
Vodstok
10-04-2006, 08:33 AM
I;m horrified the bitch's pic is actually on the web. it belongs on rotten.com...
she is actually prettier than she is nice.... and that is a very accurate image...
Disease
10-04-2006, 08:42 AM
did both you guyss Know her?
Vodstok
10-04-2006, 09:07 AM
Urge didnt, he is canadian and didnt go to the sdame hellhole i went to highschool in. Plus he is 10 + years my senior :p
I knew the creature in the picture. she is pure evil. She epitomises the hypocrisy and intolerance displayed by pushy psychochristians.
She also has thighsd like 50 gal trashbags filled with cottage cheese and stuffs them into stretch pants.... Blech...
stubbornforgey
10-04-2006, 09:11 AM
i never classed mad max as a horror
but more drama than anything else.
Vodstok
10-04-2006, 09:15 AM
It's a fanciful romp for the kiddies! :D:D:D
it actually would be a riot watching the entire thing with sound effects over the acts of violence....
Especially at the end when the last guy runs into the semi truck... queue the wile e coyote fall sound effect, then the crash when he hits, follow it up with the "Wah, wahhhhh".
paws the great
10-04-2006, 03:05 PM
Mad Max and the Road Warrior are great films,but they are not horror.