Halloween

[MyersBoy]

Tell us your fave halloween movie.

My fave is Halloween H20

[Elvis_Christ]

Halloween II

[The Flayed One]

*waits for obligatory Halloween III comments so he can go postal*

[The_Return]

Ive actually only seen the first 2....I think I have to go with the second, but just barely.

Havent seen either in a long while, will need to re-watch soon.

[Vodstok]

2. great follow up to the first one, and really, i think the 2 should be viewed in order, together.


# was okay, the fucking silver shamrock commercial make sme want to commit crimes...

it was a bad, but enjoyable movie. And as has been pointed out many a time here, it was never intended to be a sequal, but part of a story series. The halloweens originally were apparently going ot be a theatrical tales from the crypt,with each one being a sepreate story.

So calm down, deep, easy breaths. Its okay for someone to not hate it.

[crabapple]

Halloween III

wtf!!!! lolz muichal mysters wasnt even in that movie that movie sucked the director cast crew and starlets am idiots

was not good movies

[The Flayed One]

Originally posted by crabapple
Halloween III

wtf!!!! lolz muichal mysters wasnt even in that movie that movie sucked the director cast crew and starlets am idiots

was not good movies

YOU! YOU........! AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!

*RAMPAGE*

[alkytrio666]

Are you guys kidding? Halloween. Just Halloween. There is no comparing it.

[Miss Olivia]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
Are you guys kidding? Halloween. Just Halloween. There is no comparing it.

[Angelakillsluts]

Halloween II

I've only really seen the first two and bits of pieces I didn't like from the sequels.

[Spoorloos]

halloween 2 is my favorite. halloween 3 was great though

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
Are you guys kidding? Halloween. Just Halloween. There is no comparing it.

[Hulkster92]

I voted Halloween II, but Halloween is in a close second, with Halloween 4 in third.

[Zero]

halloween - hands down

although i thought halloween 3 was a great idea, pity people couldn't look past the myers obsession

[Posher778]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
Are you guys kidding? Halloween. Just Halloween. There is no comparing it.

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by Zero
halloween - hands down

although i thought halloween 3 was a great idea, pity people couldn't look past the myers obsession

I didn't think it was so bad. Wasn't what I expected, but a decent movie overall.

[XtRaVa]

Originally posted by MyersBoy
Tell us your fave halloween movie.

My fave is Halloween H20

I'm a bit surprised about that :S

My favourite is Halloween II.

[Elvis_Christ]

If you like Halloween you might like this:

http://www.caratulasdecine.com/Caratulas2/Malevolence.jpg

Basically a rip off.... but whatever there's some great moments that would appeal to fans of the Halloween series.
Shit its better than watching that one with Busta Rhymes in it.

[makemebad]

My one friend says he loves horror and loves holloween

but his favorite is Holloween 8 and he doesn't like the first few


how?!

[Elvis_Christ]

Originally posted by makemebad
My one friend says he loves horror and loves holloween

but his favorite is Holloween 8 and he doesn't like the first few


how?!

The opening of 8 is killer but it just turns to shit after that. Easily the worst of the series. But different strokes n all :)

[tarcher80]

halloween, w/ 2 nipping at it's heels (love the hospital setting)

[Jameslofton]

I have to give major kudos to the first one, but I went with Halloween 4. Its a brilliant sequel. Getting out of the hospital, going after his niece,etc. Great plot, good performances by everyone in the film. In my opinion, the series shouldve ended with this one. It just went downhill from there.


Who voted for 6?? Damn, that is one of the worst films I've ever seen. Poorly put together, crappy plot,etc. To me its almost like an unfinished film that they decided to release anyways.

[Suspiria 666]

Halloween 2 all the way! One of the best slashers ever

[slasherman]

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FE76D7FD5C63712A

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
If you like Halloween you might like this:

http://www.caratulasdecine.com/Caratulas2/Malevolence.jpg

Basically a rip off.... but whatever there's some great moments that would appeal to fans of the Halloween series.
Shit its better than watching that one with Busta Rhymes in it.

That movie was a whole lot like it. That's all I could really think about while watching it. It wasn't a bad movie, but knock-off's are just that, and they will never dominate the original.

[Burning in Hell]

I have to go with Halloween, without a doubt.

That said, I enjoy most of the others as well, except Season of the Witch (aka Halloween 3). In my opinion, the Halloween franchise is easily the best of all the "2 sequels is not enough" horror franchises :D

[paws the great]

Halloween 2

[halloweenfreak1]

Originally posted by paws the great
Halloween 2

even though just about every one in this thread will probubly disagree. I liked the entire series. there were some weak points but i would watch any of them again.

[spookychild]

Feel Free to call me wierd. I love Number 6 because it brought Tommy Doyle back into the story line. I wish that they would find a way to cruve back into the orignial story.

[Deposable]

I'm the only one that doesn't have a favorite.

[crabapple]

Okay. I asked this question before and I was referred to several DVD geek sites because they supposedly knew. But they don't know, so I'm asking again.

About, oh, seven or eight years ago, there was a Newly Remixed HALLOWEEN in Dolby Surround etc. released on VHS. Maybe you remember it. I think it was also THX. Alan Howarth, a really amazing music and sound guy, did a complete remix on the film. BUT! But................

He also re-performed and rerecorded all the music and added new orchestrations that made the theme music sound more like that in HALLOWEEN II. He also changed some of the stings, beefed up the gunshot sound effects, added heavier thunderclaps, new cricket effects, and so on. In other words, he changed the sound elements completely. From top to bottom.

Sounds really nice. But it's not the original.

So here's the question: Do the most recent "HALLOWEEN" DVDs feature this newly redone soundtrack with new elements...or do they feature a stereo remixed soundtrack featuring only the ORIGINAL sound elements as we heard them in 1978?

The original theme music for example was very simple, primitive, even, and that to me was why it worked.

I don't wanna buy or even rent any DVDs till I find this out.

Okay, geeks! Show me some stuff!

[Roderick Usher]

I have the 25th Anniversary Edition with 5.1 dolby surround sound and in Divimax - supposedly the best video transfer process there is.

The music is the original John Carpenter score and the extras are great.

A must for any collector

[crabapple]

I'm gonna rent it and give it a good listen. More geek comments please! Come on you squids.

[urgeok]

mine are the 2 versions of the Criterion laserdiscs (single disc and double disc) how do they fare ?

[crabapple]

As far as I know, the Criterion laserdiscs feature monaural sound (the original theatrical mono). All that audio is original. Criterion is pretty well known for "keeping it pure" and not allowing people to contribute, say, "new" elements to classic films.

In 1998, Anchor Bay put out a 2-tape VHS version (this is the one I have) which features all the original dialogue, music and sound effects, but remixed and stereo. It's the only stereo/surround version that I know for sure has only the original sound elements.

[Roderick Usher]

Originally posted by urgeok
mine are the 2 versions of the Criterion laserdiscs (single disc and double disc) how do they fare ?

niiiiiiice

[crabapple]

I figured I posted enough cute animal threads, so it's time to post a really pathetic geek thread, you see.

[horrorobsessed]

since i'm lame like this i don't have Halloween on dvd, i have cash flow problems until i get a real job.:(

but i do have two copies of it on vhs. original music and everything.

on the geek note though, every time i hear the music i freak, and today i was lucky enough to hear one of my friends who plays a mean piano play the shit out of the theme song. she's awesome. yeah, i also have a Michael Myers mask, poster, a t-shirt with him on it, and all of the movies. i'm such a dork when it comes to these movies that when my sister got me the Michael Myers mask for my 12th birthday i cried i was so happy.

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by Roderick Usher
I have the 25th Anniversary Edition with 5.1 dolby surround sound and in Divimax - supposedly the best video transfer process there is.

The music is the original John Carpenter score and the extras are great.

A must for any collector

I second that. It just might be the most extras-loaded 2-discer ever.

[tarcher80]

that's a great avatar deposable. it made me laugh out loud, even though i don't quite agree w/ you.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by tarcher80
that's a great avatar deposable. it made me laugh out loud, even though i don't quite agree w/ you.

That's fine. Because one day, you'll agree with me. ;)

[Phalanx]

That's fine. Because one day, you'll agree with me.
...and then he'll wanna fuck Rob Zombie too?
:D ;) :p :rolleyes: :eek:

I liked the first one, and thought H20 was ok. Gave the vote to the first because clearly it deserves it way more out of those two.
The rest of them bored the hell outta me.

[Disease]

is halloween what you call a joke?

The origanal, obviously, did this question even need to be asked?

[MSCard]

My favorite is H2O, I pretty much like them all too...

[Rabid Child]

It annoys me how everyone says Halloween 3 is so horribal. If It weren't for calling it Halloween 3 it still a great B-Movie i don't think of it as part of the series. Plus its better then Ressurrection

Oh And my favorite is the first one of course

[mikel1021]

halloween hands down

[JP500]

H20.

[cactus]

the first slightly ahead of the second

[Rabid Child]

Originally posted by JP500
H20.

I Like H20 cause its Hillarious! its also the perfect ending to myers but Noooooo! they had the say it was cop in the same suit. Myers mask makes him look like he's 15 years old or younger. still better then ressurrection.

[Rabid Child]

Originally posted by cactus
the first slightly ahead of the second

they should have waited for part 4 to make it gory that kind of ruined it but its stilll a great movie. dana carvey was in it too the guy talking to the news lady

[psycho_butthead]

i like the first one. the 2nd on was good to. those are the only ones that did anything for me.

[Rabid Child]

I like like the others cause they are hillarious

[evildemontoo]

Just plain old Halloween. That is the best one.

[Rabid Child]

I need to get the first and replace my vhs, H20, and the documentary dvd. i'm taping the rest on monsterfest. and i allready on 2

[Rabid Child]

I have a crappy Anchor Bay VHS I need the 2 disc Divamax one

[JP500]

Anybody know a website where I can buy the box set of all 8 halloween movies on DVD?

[Rabid Child]

Its not out in the US its out in Japan and the U.K. only. Lucky bastards

[JP500]

Originally posted by Rabid Child
Its not out in the US its out in Japan and the U.K. only. Lucky bastards
Damnit.I thought I saw a commercial for it on tv a couple of weeks back.I could be wrong though.

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by Roderick Usher
I have the 25th Anniversary Edition with 5.1 dolby surround sound and in Divimax - supposedly the best video transfer process there is.

The music is the original John Carpenter score and the extras are great.

A must for any collector

This is the same one I own.

I rented one from blockbuster though, and it wasn't the same. But the sound was the original '78 sound, but the picture wasn't as good as the 25th Anniversary Edition.

The one I rented was this one:

http://www.horrormovies.com/images/HalloweenTHX.jpg

[The_Return]

Originally posted by VampiricClown
The one I rented was this one:

http://www.horrormovies.com/images/HalloweenTHX.jpg

Thats the one I have.

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by The_Return
Thats the one I have.

You should get the 25th Anniversary Edition. It's a two disc set and has better picture quality than the one I posted the picture of. Although that one was a little more like going to the theater and seeing it for the first time.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by VampiricClown
You should get the 25th Anniversary Edition. It's a two disc set and has better picture quality than the one I posted the picture of. Although that one was a little more like going to the theater and seeing it for the first time.

I very, very rarely watch special features, I couldnt be bothered. Im perfectly happy with the quality of this version, I have no need to shell out another $30.

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by The_Return
I very, very rarely watch special features, I couldnt be bothered. Im perfectly happy with the quality of this version, I have no need to shell out another $30.

I rarely watch them as-well. I usually never do, but the fact that this is my favorite film of all time....I just can't pass it up. :D

[The_Return]

Originally posted by VampiricClown
I rarely watch them as-well. I usually never do, but the fact that this is my favorite film of all time....I just can't pass it up. :D

I see where you're coming from...even though I already have the Legacy set + a VHS tape, I plan to buy the 75th Anniversary edition of Dracula ASAP.

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by The_Return
I see where you're coming from...even though I already have the Legacy set + a VHS tape, I plan to buy the 75th Anniversary edition of Dracula ASAP.

Just saw that tonight at Wal-Mart actually.

[glm]

the first slightly ahead of the second

I'd have to agree with you.

[Rabid Child]

I just got the 25 Years Of Terror Documentary dvd its great,

[jason myers]

my favorite would be the original followed by part 6 which i think was also a nice one

[crabapple]

A little wacky bump for this thread.

[urgeok]

anyone come forth yet ?

(i had 3rd tied up)

[SteveJ2006]

Crabapple, as I mentioned in the other thread, I own the 2003 "25th Anniversary Edition" dvd of Halloween. Are you sure that this version also has the rerecorded music you speak of and not the original track? I'm still having a hard time noticing a difference.

And if so, do you know of a version that definitely has the original track so I could seek it out and compare it?

[crabapple]

Hey there, I have yet to see the 25th Anniversary edition, I probably will see this soon and will compare it. As far as the original music tracks, the Criterion edition of Halloween, on laserdisc, features the originals. That's for certain. Most of the EARLY video releases feature the original music.

The "newly created" musical score first came into existence--I think--around 1999 (I think it first showed up on a VHS box touting that Halloween was now "THX" and the box featured a morphing lens image of the Shape mask that changed into the slashing pumpkin graphic), and has been featured in all the rereleases I have seen since that time. So basically, any release that came out before that release, features the original music score because the redone version did not exist yet.

I know it's confusing. But it'll get cleared up as more people become aware of it. Here's an image of the release that introduced the "redone" THX mix:http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m108/darkcornerpix/halloweenthx.jpg

[PhilnEdee]

I second that. It just might be the most extras-loaded 2-discer ever.

That's the one I have and I have it on orig VHS...25th DVD is 5.1 and is great.

[freddy69]

i like halloween its the best:D :cool:

[Disease]

although part two is great, the origanal rules supream

[Ballz Deep]

I watched these on TV when they were on for Halloween and was wondering if there was another one in the works yet and if so.... Who's directing it?

[PhilnEdee]

Rob Zombie is doing a remake (of sorts) of the original John Carpenter...search Rob Zombie Halloween.

[Ballz Deep]

Thanks, I use to post here but have been out of the loop for awhile.
I appreciate Your help.:)

[PhilnEdee]

more than welcome!

[JP500]

I hope it will be better than #8.

[The STE]

Thanks, I use to post here but have been out of the loop for awhile.
I appreciate Your help.:)

but all your posts are from today

[Chase]

Rob Zombie is Directing it, I have faith that it will be better than the 8th.:)

[EarthSlayer]

I think Halloween one is a very boring movie. To me it amounted to Jamie Lee Curtis running around yelling help all night long zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
While she was and still is a hottie that gets boring pretty quick w/ o a movie to carry it somewhere. I know there are a lot of people that think it's great but it did nothing for me. I also saw parts of three it also blows. I did like H2O though.
Anyway you can all get hostile now if you like but thats my opinion.

[The STE]

Jeff Foxworthy could direct it and it would be better than the 8th

[Ballz Deep]

but all your posts are from today

Because I just registered today, I use to post here under a different name but changed email addresses and forgot My password information.

[the_real_linda]

i thought we had all already discussed the rob zombie 'remake' or 'revison' of halloween?????

[the_real_linda]

got to be the original.....boring and predictable of me to choose it yes....but it tis the best.....then probs H2O...hmmmmmm?

[PhilnEdee]

i thought we had all already discussed the rob zombie 'remake' or 'revison' of halloween?????

We have, just helping a returning poster out. ;)

[top-gunner]

i think the first one is the best....not only the best of the series but one of my fave movies ever

[GetrDone]

H2O is probably my favorite. its close between that one and the original but it has the edge.

[The Mothman]

Are you guys kidding? Halloween. Just Halloween. There is no comparing it.

aye. i thought the second one was cheesy and lame.

[illdojo]

Does anyone else have this Boxed Set??
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e107/illdojo/DSCN1722.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e107/illdojo/DSCN1725.jpg
It's Japanese and has 1-8. I got it off of Ebay.

[joshaube]

It's a bootleg.

[illdojo]

It's a bootleg.

Thanks....I thought it was. :mad: I won it for 50 bucks. Not bad for 8 movies.:cool: All the DVDs are good quality for bootlegs.

[alicefan]

yeah, it is still cool looking

[illdojo]

yeah, it is still cool looking

Thanks....You still might be able to get them on Ebay. :cool:

[davidd60]

i like michael movies, i just only have seen 1, jason to me is better

[bwind22]

Yeah, I have that. Nice set. Commercial quality. I got it with ANOES & F13 for $110 (after shipping).

[roshiq]

humm...I'm eagerly waiting for this.
(..still I haven't seen any of the movie of this series!!:o )

[The_Return]

humm...I'm eagerly waiting for this.
(..still I haven't seen any of the movie of this series!!:o )

Any? Not even the original?

Man - you're missing out. I havent seen many of the sequels yet myself, but the original is classic!

[illdojo]

Yeah, I have that. Nice set. Commercial quality. I got it with ANOES & F13 for $110 (after shipping).

Hell yeah. Thats a great deal. I'm gonna buy the F13 set sooner or later. I've seen all the Jason flix many many times. Pt. 3 is my Favorite. :cool:

[roshiq]

Any? Not even the original?

Man - you're missing out. I havent seen many of the sequels yet myself, but the original is classic!


yeah..I know. :(
But, hopefully within a week I'll gonna get the original one in my collections.

[pinkerton]

yeah..I know. :(
But, hopefully within a week I'll gonna get the original one in my collections.



Skip pt 3 and 8 if possible, shit bombs imo.

[roshiq]

Skip pt 3 and 8 if possible, shit bombs imo.

point noted.
& thanx for the suggestion:)

[bwind22]

point noted.
& thanx for the suggestion:)

Don't skip 3 or 8. Resurrection (Part 8), while being the crappiest of the series, still has some very vital storyline events take place. Part 3 is the only one with no trace of Michael Myers in it. It is a completely seperate story so just don't go in to it expecting Michael Myers and you won't be let down. It's a cool film, it just doesn't really belong in the series.


Originally posted by illdojo
Hell yeah. Thats a great deal. I'm gonna buy the F13 set sooner or later. I've seen all the Jason flix many many times. Pt. 3 is my Favorite.



The F13 & Halloween sets were both nice. The NOES one was PAL so it does not play in color on my DVD player here in the US. (I wish they had labeled that in their auction a little better, but oh well. I already have the American NOES boxset anyways.)

[pinkerton]

Yeah, listen to bwind22 and watch them all.Don't listen to one assholes opinion, make your own.:)

[ferretchucker]

i like michael movies, i just only have seen 1, jason to me is better

You may be cool but that above statement had now made you unworthy to me to talk about any halloween movies (except season of the witch). jason is, and always will be a ripoff of Michael. Even it's creator has admitted that.

[can't get enough gore]

this sound interesting but lets hope it releases officially non bootleg

[Gus]

cool , id give you a twenty piece of rock for that

[ferretchucker]

if you look carefully, theygot resurection and H20 mixed up.

[alicefan]

i hope they release it officially sometime soon too

[Rob Bottin]

How long is this version? http://www.itsonlyamovie.co.uk/EVEN%20NEWER%20COVER%20SCAN/HALLOWEEN%202%20(DVD).jpg

[Gus]

1hour
33 minutes

[Rob Bottin]

Thanks but dvdcompare.net says:

CUTS:
R1 America - (Goodtimes) - No cuts
R1 America - (Universal Pictures) - No cuts
R2 United Kingdom - (Castle Home Video) - (Castle Home Video) - Cut by 17 seconds during the scene where Michael dunks a nurse into a boiling Jacuzzi. The final two thrusts under the water have been removed, a close up of her burnt face and then Michael throwing her naked body to the floor. This is the version I links to but on IMDB they say that Sanctuarys realese is uncut whic CH´s realese ain´t and Sanctuarys is 88 mins.
R2 United Kingdom - (Sanctuary Digital Entertainment) - No cuts - all previous cuts waived
R4 Australia - (Infogrames) - No cuts

[the_real_linda]

i was in hmv today and there was a dvd with nothing on and a dvd with some pantsy extras...ill look tommorow to see running time

[alicefan]

it is a pretty good film

[Rob Bottin]

Oh I also forgot to rip this from dvdcompare yesterday, Note, that all DVD-releases (UK-release by "Castle Home Video" is cut) are 89 min (PAL)/93 min (NTSC) -versions. No "longer TV-version" available on DVD yet. More info about the "TV-version":
http://www.geocities.com/madnessmike/differences_with_the_halloween_i.htm

[ferretchucker]

in the version i got there are no cuts. At least i dont think there are. It's hard to tell. It get's annoying when they cut a really good bit out. Like on little shop of horrors, the original ending was when they took over earth but then a few years later they said it was too depressing so they remade it.

[Rob Bottin]

ferretchucker, how long is it and which region is it?

[ferretchucker]

1 hour 31 min - pal colour - england.

[jdclar]

it is a pretty good film

I agree, part 2 ia probably my fav. nothing beats the music in 2

[ferretchucker]

apart from the music in 1.

[ferretchucker]

Got it off ebay, just arrived. I was just watching it for the first time in years when i started actually thinking about it. Sorry to bug you but these questions need to be answered for me.

- In the write ups and plot outlines, they say Michael is after his baby. At what point do they say it was his baby as well? And if his goal was to kill his family on the night of samhain, why would he make another one?

-Why did that doctor guy want an evil child? They never explain.

-Why did Michael kill all those people in smith groves?

-What was that green stuff oozing out of michaels face when tommy bashes it in.

-And just for the sake, a continuity error - Why at the end when you see the mask on the floor and hear loomis screaming (the low point of the film, lower than when they killed off laurie in HR) does the mask have none of that green stuff on it?

[Posher778]

Got it off ebay, just arrived. I was just watching it for the first time in years when i started actually thinking about it. Sorry to bug you but these questions need to be answered for me.

- In the write ups and plot outlines, they say Michael is after his baby. At what point do they say it was his baby as well? And if his goal was to kill his family on the night of samhain, why would he make another one?

-Why did that doctor guy want an evil child? They never explain.

-Why did Michael kill all those people in smith groves?

-What was that green stuff oozing out of michaels face when tommy bashes it in.

-And just for the sake, a continuity error - Why at the end when you see the mask on the floor and hear loomis screaming (the low point of the film, lower than when they killed off laurie in HR) does the mask have none of that green stuff on it?

You're mising the point. Who cares about all the questions... Its a gay as hell sequal...

[Dominion]

I hated that movie. Michael Myers banging his niece....:confused:

[ferretchucker]

I respect it though because it was pleasances last film and if he thought it was worth doing i think it's worth watching. But still, i'm not a fan of the storyline. It seemed to be over too quickly

[Posher778]

I respect it though because it was pleasances last film and if he thought it was worth doing i think it's worth watching. But still, i'm not a fan of the storyline. It seemed to be over too quickly

Pleasance is a crappy actor in halloween anyway.
He's such a drama queen it drives me insane, its like... SHUT UP about fuckin Michael and get a hobby... He just freaks out about him year round. Don't worry about nuclear war or anything, just some ohh noo sexually active teens getting sliced.

[ferretchucker]

donald is great. I think him and jamie lee were the best thing that happened to halloween. I admit though, he does repeat himself alot. About five times he says. "I spent seven years trying to reach him and eight trying to make sure he never got out. For behind his dead, black eyes, there was only evil. Evil has come to your town."

[Posher778]

I can't stand him. Halloween was fine without him butting in and killing michael and blah blah blah.

[Disease]

LAME ASS FERRET< you just agree with everyone....

[ferretchucker]

you know, if you don't like me, why dont you spend your time doing useful things and not reading then replying negatively to my posts.

[the_real_linda]

i loved the overacting of donald....camp it up big time

[ferretchucker]

I just think loomis gave it another dimension. He was what made the films. If he wasn't in them they'd just be like f-13 with a different hero each time.

[crazy raplh]

I can't stand him. Halloween was fine without him butting in and killing michael and blah blah blah.

WHAT are you serious that is the whole point of halloween.

I dont know those are good questions though I think he died in that one. He was tring to kill the doctor and if anyone got in his way after he killed her then he went for his sister. I dont understand ressurected though that was gay though how she died.

[ferretchucker]

have any of you seen the producers cut? It was actually the first one that they were going to release but it got bad reviews on the test screening so they changed it in a week. In that pleasance survives and is marked with thron by doctor wyn. It's when he get's marked that he screams and it's meant to make it so that he has a closer link with michael or something. I think i maybe prefered that ending. None of that stupid tricking michael stuff.

[scream!]

I'm gonna see Halloween for the first time today..

I was wondering if it is really THAT good? Is it really worth the hype?

I didnt really love Excorcist or the Shining..didnt care much for Jason's movies either (except for part 3).

Do you think I'll love this one? Does it have a story behind it?

[Roderick Usher]

I'm gonna see Halloween for the first time today..

I was wondering if it is really THAT good? Is it really worth the hype?

I didnt really love Excorcist or the Shining..didnt care much for Jason's movies either (except for part 3).

Do you think I'll love this one? Does it have a story behind it?

Halloween is amazing, if you're a true film fan.

But you don't like the Exorcist, The Shining or Jason so I guess we can rule that out. You'll probably like Rob Zombie's version better:mad:

[Kane_Hodder]

Some things never cease to amaze me, and some people.:rolleyes:

[scream!]

Halloween is amazing, if you're a true film fan.

But you don't like the Exorcist, The Shining or Jason so I guess we can rule that out. You'll probably like Rob Zombie's version better:mad:

Well I loved the nightmare on elm street... One of my favorite horror movies of all time.

[paws the great]

Well I loved the nightmare on elm street... One of my favorite horror movies of all time.

Well, did you like "Halloween?"

[massacre man]

Halloween is amazing, if you're a true film fan.

But you don't like the Exorcist, The Shining or Jason so I guess we can rule that out. You'll probably like Rob Zombie's version better:mad:

Why did I picture your eyes turning red and a flaming background when I read that?

[crabapple]

Halloween was never really "hyped," actually. Its success grew from word of mouth, and it did the boxoffice it did mainly because it worked. It's a good, simple, scary movie, beautifully photographed.

[Unaboner3000]

I'm gonna see Halloween for the first time today..

I was wondering if it is really THAT good? Is it really worth the hype?

I didnt really love Excorcist or the Shining..didnt care much for Jason's movies either (except for part 3).

Do you think I'll love this one? Does it have a story behind it?
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Good movie. You should like. Horrors that really stand out to me are those with great directing, great acting, cool music, etc....like The Exorcist and The Shining.

Oh shit. You hated both of those? Wow. Those two, along with Halloween, are generally considered classics.

[scream!]

Good movie. You should like. Horrors that really stand out to me are those with great directing, great acting, cool music, etc....like The Exorcist and The Shining.

Oh shit. You hated both of those? Wow. Those two, along with Halloween, are generally considered classics.

I wouldnt say I hated it but I didnt really love it. The shining was not scary at all it was more like a thriller. John's acting was great and the score fit really well but the movie was too slow for me. The excorsist was okay but the fact that I had heard about a lot of the scenes in the movie probably ruined the surprise and it's the kind of movie that you judge on what you felt the first time you saw it you know.

As for Halloween.. I'm about to watch it right now. I'll let you guys know what I thought when I'm done.

[newb]

This sounds like a case of "spoiled by special effects" syndrome.




I'm willing to bet this poster is in his early teens.


Not trying to generalize.....I'm aware we have some very hip teens here......just that the majority would probably think like this "scream" dude.......or dudet.

[_____V_____]

The shining was not scary at all it was more like a thriller. John's acting was great and the score fit really well but the movie was too slow for me.

You really watched The Shining?

...

Then who's John in it?:rolleyes:

[novakru]

John, Jack, Archibald...same difference:D

[_____V_____]

I thought he was referring to John Carpenter, and kept thinking back if the dude had a special appearance in it.

Then scratched it and thought maybe John Wayne, but I couldnt remember the tall, lanky westerner in even one scene.

Maybe it was John McClane, but then the Torrances wouldnt have "died hard" would they?:p

:D

[novakru]

I thought he was referring to John Carpenter, and kept thinking back if the dude had a special appearance in it.

Then scratched it and thought maybe John Wayne, but I couldnt remember the tall, lanky westerner in even one scene.

Maybe it was John McClane, but then the Torrances wouldnt have "died hard" would they?:p

:D

heh heh
you said hard

[_____V_____]

You knew what I meant.;)

Newb got it spot-on though. Newer generations need to watch the classics first and appreciate it more, rather than giving their thumbs ups to newer CGI-loaded dull stuff.

[Angra]

I'm gonna see Halloween for the first time today..

I was wondering if it is really THAT good? Is it really worth the hype?

I didnt really love Excorcist or the Shining..didnt care much for Jason's movies either (except for part 3).

Do you think I'll love this one? Does it have a story behind it?



I don't think you'll LOVE it.

Halloween is famous for being the movie that started the whole Slasher genre. But since then, many Slasher movies has been made and many has topped it.

If you've already seen a lot of slashers i'm sure you'll find Halloween to be very ol' school.

[joshaube]

Funny... I thought Black Christmas was the movie that 'invented' the slasher genre. Oh well, another case of Americans taking credit for something Canadian. Bullies!

If you look around this forum, or poll the horror community in general... Halloween will come out near the top on nearly everyone's TOP 10 LISTS. I honestly don't think I've heard anything bad said about this film on these forums. Also, Mike Meyers tops most FAVOURITE HORROR ICON lists; and John Carpenter's work is rarely ever looked down upon.

Now, with those facts, think about it.

PS. If you don't like Halloween, it's best to just to pretend you do. It's easier that way. Trust me.

But I do prefer Black Christmas to Halloween.

(( OH, and will someone explain why they love Halloween so much? Someone who'd rate it on their top 10. It's never been described why everyone thinks it's so amazing. I personally think it's a fit-in sort of thing. ))

[scream!]

Ok I just got done watching it!

First I have to say Michael Myers' stalking (and the pov camera) were great.

The soundtrack I think just MAKES the movie. It is just really creepy.. I think it's probably the BEST score of any horror movie I have seen.

Now onto the movie. It builds lots of suspense and keeps you on your toes throughout the whole movie.

It's also probably the film that started it all and most people on this forum probably watched it as kids so it has a special place in their hearts and I completely understand that.

The plot is fairly simple and effective but the movie (for a supposed top horror movie of all time) was still lacking something.

I would give the movie 7/10 but then again I have no taste I guess.:D

[scream!]

Da na na ni da da diiii da na na ni da da diii

Its still ringing in my ears:D

[crabapple]

You did good, Scream. You appreciated an older film and that's fantastic. Now, for a real treat, go back and watch a good handful of even older films, oh, maybe Frankenstein from 1931, King Kong from 1933, The Wolf Man from 1941, The Blob from 1958, Night of the Living Dead from 1968. Each one will give you a different kind of thrill.

[Phalanx]

Having "grown up" through the 80's, seeing this one as somewhat of a step out of what I was used to when I saw it at the age of about 14 in around '95.
At this age, it was hard to look past the "aging" factor but when I sat back and actually got into it, found it was pretty decent after all.
I didn't think it was the greatest film ever or anything, but it was a pretty solid, and atmospheric thriller/slasher, the formless face, the music, all worked well. It's not one of my favourites, but I think it's probably one of the films a person trying to dip into horror might definately want to observe at least once.

As for older than that titles to see, I always really liked the earlier version of "house of wax", maybe psycho if you haven't seen it....?

[joshaube]

Psycho was a great movie! Check it out.

[crazy raplh]

yes I know your point I think there should be some required films to watch before you can join the forum lol

[the_real_linda]

AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! its frackin Halloween..... dude..... Halloween..... geez!

[illdojo]

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[DEATHH DREAMS author]

Well I loved the nightmare on elm street... One of my favorite horror movies of all time.

Hmmmm... different stroked for different blokes I guess... I'd like to see your top ten favorite horror films list... but I can't promise not to make fun...

[Dante'sInferno]

1,2 Michael's coming for you.3,4 Your totally fucked........the end.

[halloweenfreak1]

I'm gonna see Halloween for the first time today..

I was wondering if it is really THAT good? Is it really worth the hype?

I didnt really love Excorcist or the Shining..didnt care much for Jason's movies either (except for part 3).

Do you think I'll love this one? Does it have a story behind it?

You know what if you don't like it, stop watching horror. :)

[VampiricClown]

Halloween is one of the best horror movies out there in my opinion.

Also, if you like the way the music is played, check out Phantasm.

[halloweenfreak1]

Halloween is one of the best horror movies out there in my opinion.

Also, if you like the way the music is played, check out Phantasm.

I just saw PHANTASM a few days ago. It was a pretty good one.

[alkytrio666]

1,2 Michael's coming for you.3,4 Your totally fucked........the end.
Hahahaha... :D

[Toddums]

Don't know if I spelled that right but anyways... *Spoiler alert

Just got done watching Halloween and I noticed that Myers dragged 2 or 3 dead corpses (of women) out of sight and then the scene was over. Example: In the asylum after Myers goes berserk he drags the female guard's body away... what for? He does the same thing a few more times.

Each time Myers would drag a female body away me and my friend just gave eachother this look like ... wtf is he going to do with that!

Sorry if this post seems stupid or immature but I just don't get why he dragged those bodies (the prison guards especially) away. Did he have sex with them? :eek:

[Roderick Usher]

no
he's too emotionally stunted to be sexually active

[LoudLon]

It's called "Covering your tracks." Serial Killer handbook, chapter one.:D

[the_man_you_fear]

Don't know if I spelled that right but anyways... *Spoiler alert

Just got done watching Halloween and I noticed that Myers dragged 2 or 3 dead corpses (of women) out of sight and then the scene was over. Example: In the asylum after Myers goes berserk he drags the female guard's body away... what for? He does the same thing a few more times.

Each time Myers would drag a female body away me and my friend just gave eachother this look like ... wtf is he going to do with that!

Sorry if this post seems stupid or immature but I just don't get why he dragged those bodies (the prison guards especially) away. Did he have sex with them? :eek:

I dont know rob zobies got athing for necrophilla in his movies so maybe

[the_real_linda]

yeah thats the great thing bout film...... its all down to the viewers own interpretation....... id like to think he was covering his tracks too

[nicklord1]

You guys need to check out the uncut rod zombie halloween totally diff from the cinema version . The uncut version for example gave reasons for his killing and he let the mexican guard go . I guess the producers just wanted to make him a bad ass which i think is wrong as they humanised in the first half .

[PR3SSUR3]

So you're saying he did have sex off-camera, with the bodies?

[nicklord1]

No but he showed more of a human side and killed more people etc for a reason.

[PhilnEdee]

So you're saying he did have sex off-camera, with the bodies?

BWHAHAHA-off camera...Mexican Guard...oh lordy!

[illdojo]

IMO - Part 6 is the best of the sequels with the exception of part 2.
Has anyone watched "The Producers Cut"?
Is it worth buying?

Link to DVD........http://www.fleshwoundvideo.com/H666.html

[ferretchucker]

Well, i thought the whole curse of thorn thing was a bit silly, but if you look, certain moments in halloween 5 do show the symbol. Anyway, the producers cut ending gave more to the curse storyline and made it a lot more supernatural. It also made the same mistake as halloween 5 and rzh by giving michael an inch of sympathy. But it did have some good points. I wasn't keen on either of the endings but I did like the return of tommy and Loomis was given a slightly bigger role in the producers cut. I'd say buy it, but make your own conlusions.

[VampiricClown]

This is actually the only version I have, so I can't really elaborate. Just keep in mind that the quality changes drastically during the movie.

[sbkarow]

:confused: Does anybody here know the complete list of revenues and costs for the theatrical release of Halloween (1978).

I know that the total gross was about $47,000,000, and that the production budget was $325,000 - $20,000 of it going to Donald Pleasence. But does anyone happen to have access to more detailed numbers regarding distribution expenses and production fees. If so, I would greatly appreciate your assistance. Thanks.

[PhilnEdee]

I believe the Special Edition DVD I have has all the costs, fees, etc...but I'm too lazy to go watch it for that.

[johnboy3434]

*SPOILERS for all movies*

Yes, I know kill lists for famous horror icons are all over the 'Net, but I've always wanted to do one for myself, and I wanted it to be accurate (most of the lists seem to have different counts). If there are any contestations one would like to make to my list, feel free. For those who find such things uninteresting, I have another, more conversation-inducing question at the bottom of the post. Note: I plan to do similar lists with the Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street series (complete with Freddy's Nightmares) once I get the DVDs.

Michael Myers Kill List

Timeline 1: H1, H2, H4, H5, CoMM
Timeline 2: H3
Timeline 3: H1, H2, H2O, H:R
Timeline 4: RZH

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Halloween [Television Version] (1978)
Judith Myers - Died at 6:00
Phelps Garage truck driver - Seen dead at 26:26
A dog - Found dead at 47:02
Lester (dog) - Died at 54:10
Annie Brackett - Died at 1:04:22
Bob - Died at 1:15:54
Lynda - Died at 1:18:11
Count: 5 people, 2 dogs

Halloween II (1981)
Alice - Died at 12:22
Mr. Garrett - Died at 40:02
Budd - Died at 50:43
Karen Baley - Died at 52:21
Dr. Mixter - Found dead at 57:09
Janet Newhall- Died at 57:43
Veronica Alves - Found dead at 1:05:39
Jill Franco - Died at 1:08:58
The marshal - Died at 1:20:43
Count: 9 people

Halloween III: Season of the Witch (1982)
No kills (only seen in stock footage)
Count: 0

Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers (1988)
3 unknown people - Retconned to death at 3:25
J. Black - Died at 6:43
L. Evans and 2 ambulance drivers - Partially seen dead at 17:02
Penney's mechanic - Died at 18:37
Penney's waitress - Found dead at 20:40
Sunday (dog) - Found dead at 40:56
Bucky - Died at 42:22
Pierce - Found dead at 47:40
At least 2 other policemen - Implied dead at 49:03
Deputy Logan - Found dead at 1:04:15
Kelly Meeker - Died at 1:04:31
Brady - Died at 1:07:57
Al and another hillbilly - Died at 1:18:33
A hillbilly - Died at 1:18:40
Earl - Died at 1:18:51
Count: 20 people (17 during the movie), 1 dog

Halloween 5 (1989)
The hermit - Died at 8:29
Rachel Carruthers - Died at 20:58
The OTHER Michael - Died at 38:40
Spitz - Died at 59:45
Samantha - Died at 1:00:09
2 policemen - Found dead at 1:02:52
Tina - Died at 1:07:11
4 policemen - Implied dead at 1:12:42
Eddy Hale - Died at 1:15:06
Charlie Bloch - Died at 1:19:58
At least 1 person - Seen dead at 1:20:06
Max (dog) - Found dead at 1:25:42
Count: 15 people, 1 dog

Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995)
A nurse - Died at 5:21
The trucker - Died at 6:39
Jamie Lloyd - Died at 19:26
Debra Strode - Died at 38:48
John Strode - Died at 52:44
Barry Simms - Died at 55:29
Tim Strode - Died at 59:50
Beth - Died at 1:00:47
A patient - Died at 1:12:14
A hospital employee - Died at 1:17:11
A person - Died at 1:17:13
Another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:20
Yet another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:30
Still another hospital employee - Died at 1:17:32
The director hates hospitals - Seen dead at 1:17:33
You get the idea - Seen dead at 1:17:34
Enough, already! - Died at 1:17:36
Another patient - Died at 1:18:33
Dr. Samuel Loomis - Implied dead at 1:24:44
Count: 19 people

Halloween H2O: Twenty Years Later (1998)
Jimmy - Found dead at 7:31
Allegre - Found dead at 7:43
Marion Wittington - Died at 8:46
Charlie - Found dead at 59:13
Sarah - Died at 1:01:08
Will Brennon - Died at 1:06:48
Count: 6 people

Halloween: Resurrection (2002)
Franklin - Died at 8:37
Willie - Died at 10:04
Laurie Strode - Died at 15:01
One nurse from Halloween II - Retconned back to life at 16:01
Two students from Halloween H2O - Retconned to death at 16:10
Charley - Died at 30:23
Bill - Died at 45:26
At least 3 rats - Found dead at 56:40
Another rat - Found dead at 57:12
Yet another rat - Found mortally wounded at 57:14
Donna - Died at 58:41
Jen - Died at 1:03:47
Jim - Died at 1:05:00
Rudy - Died at 1:07:06
Nora - Found dead at 1:17:05
The pathologist - Implied dead at 1:25:11
Count: 12 people (10 during the movie), 5 rats

Halloween [Unrated Director's Cut] (2007)
Elvis (rat) - Pronounced dead at 3:42
A cat - Seen dead at 7:19
A dog - Seen dead at 7:34
Another cat - Seen dead at 7:38
The bully - Died at 11:26
Ronnie White - Died at 18:58
Steven Haley - Died at 20:46
Judith Myers - Died at 23:56
A nurse - Died at 37:20
Noel - Died at 45:47
Kendall - Died at 46:03
Gloria - Seen dead at 47:02
A guard - Seen dead at 48:18
Another guard - Seen dead at 48:22
Max Ismael - Died at 49:35
Joe Grizzley - Died at 53:29
A coyote - Found dead at 1:07:36
Bob - Died at 1:11:34
Lynda - Died at 1:13:13
Mason Strode - Died at 1:15:50
Cynthia Strode - Died at 1:16:55
Paul - Died at 1:27:00
A policeman - Died at 1:35:00
Another policeman - Died at 1:35:15
Count: 19 people, 2 cats, 1 rat, 1 dog, 1 coyote

Timeline 1 Count: 68 people, 4 dogs
Timeline 2 Count: No kills
Timeline 3 Count: 32 people, 2 dogs, 5 rats
Timeline 4 Count: 19 people, 2 cats, 1 rat, 1 dog, 1 coyote
Grand Total: 105 people, 6 rats, 5 dogs, 2 cats, 1 coyote

The surgery room slaughter in CoMM was a nightmare to figure out, what with the damn-near-blinding strobe effect and all. There may well have been more kills in that scene (and you can argue that at least two more are implied), but those were all I could make out. Quite frankly, the whole scene was unnecessary.

Anyway, my question (it's in the poll) is: which existing timeline (if any) would you like the inevitable next movie in the series to follow?

[Roderick Usher]

how about an option of "No more Michael Myers, please"

[VampiricClown]

how about an option of "No more Michael Myers, please"

That's where my vote is going.

[johnboy3434]

how about an option of "No more Michael Myers, please"

That would be option 2: Pick up after Season of the Witch. Just out of curiosity, though, why no more Michael? Are you too hung up on Freddy and Jason?

[Roderick Usher]

I am sick to death of Michael, Freddy, Jason, Pinhead, Candyman and all the other 80's/90's shit. I don't want to see another HALLOWEEN movie. I didn't think RZs version was as bad as it could have been, but that's hardly an endorsement you'd want to put on the DVD box.

The original films are great. The second and sometimes even third installment of a franchise can be okay, but endless sequels cheapen the product and it's ability to thrill.

Fresh ideas are out there, but they get pushed aside in favor of remakes and sequels and I sick of it. If you love Micheal, maybe you should try out one of the new takes on the 80s slasher flick like HATCHET or BEHIND THE MASK: THE RISE OF LESLIE VERNON - and leave the past in the past.

[Takisha.Erin]

Christ, but these crazy fucks are the foundations of what horror is, they are classics how could you get sick of them!

[VampiricClown]

Christ, but these crazy fucks are the foundations of what horror is, they are classics how could you get sick of them!

Yes, they are our boogeymen, but when they are done to death, we learn to care less. Fred Krueger used to be scary. Now he's as comical as, well, FredDY Krueger. There is no point to keep reviving characters.

[Roderick Usher]

Christ, but these crazy fucks are the foundations of what horror is, they are classics how could you get sick of them!

When I want to see them , I put on the original. I probably watch HALLOWEEN (JC's not RZ's) at least once a month.

But Freddy, Jason, Micheal, etc. are far from the foundations of horror. They aren't even the founding fathers of horror film - that's for Nosferatu, Frankenstein's, Der Golem etc.

Horror goes back to the cave dwellers. Fear is the most primal emotion. Horror tales are as old as written language. The Ballad of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, The Odyssey - all packed with monsters and murderers.

Horror goes back a little further than 1980. I understand liking these guys, but man has more things to fear than these four or five boogeymen and I'd like to hear some new stories.

[CrimsonFiend138]

I love Michael Myers and the Halloween franchise and I will continue to watch them and also other franchises. Crap sequels are a part of the horror genre. I would love to see what they do next no matter the route they take(as long as it takes place on earth).

[Posher778]

How about, no more, for any of them. In fact, let's burn all the sequels that killed the original. (except Halloween 2 and Friday 2+3)

[VampiricClown]

How about, no more, for any of them. In fact, let's burn all the sequels that killed the original. (except Halloween 2 and Friday 2+3)

I didn't think Halloween 3, and Friday The 13th 4 were that bad. The Hellraiser series didn't die completely until the fourth film, in my opinion. Pumpkinheads sequels did nothing for it. Same for the Nightmare On Elm St. franchise. Jeepers Creepers 2 was awful. Chucky 2 was pretty good I thought...

My two cents worth, and I now leave you all to your bickering.

[massacre man]

I always enjoy seeing Michael Myers, but that's beside the point. The sequels haven't been that great (I liked 2 and 4), I know that Rob Zombie's version is a bad movie, but I still enjoy watching it, if that makes any sense. I'd rather see the Halloween films stop, unless it's something completely, and I mean COMPLETELY different.

But since we're discussing other slasher franchises in this topic, I'll add in my opinion on that. The only movie in the entire Friday The 13th series I like is part 6. A Nightmare On Elm Street is one of my favorite movies, I also enjoyed New Nightmare quite a bit. Don't really care for Hellraise or Candyman. The only series I like every installment of is Child's Play (Part 3 just for the garbage truck scene). Just seems like Chucky grows a bit more each installment so it seems like each sequel has something new to say and the focus has shifted from the protagonist to the antagonist as the series went on. That's all I have to say about that.

[VampiricClown]

I forgot Candyman. I liked the first two. The third one was a bit far fetched and seemed to get away from the story.

[CrimsonFiend138]

I just love sequels!! I used to hate every slasher not called Michael Myers when I was younger since everybody always used Jason or Freddy when referring to a killer or something. I love the Nightmare sequels probly most. All of them. Loved the Friday Sequels ecxept for VII which is despise and X which I despise even more(except for the virtual camping scene) Hellraiser is badass I agree alot of people hated the third one but I think it just as good. Pumpkinhead 2 was always my favorite of the two. The poor little boy and the bloody tentacles or whatever when that guy got his head ripped off...sorry

[Disease]

Michael Myers on a plane!

[VampiricClown]

Michael Myers on a plane!

It wouldn't surprise me.

[ChronoGrl]

When I want to see them , I put on the original. I probably watch HALLOWEEN (JC's not RZ's) at least once a month.

But Freddy, Jason, Micheal, etc. are far from the foundations of horror. They aren't even the founding fathers of horror film - that's for Nosferatu, Frankenstein's, Der Golem etc.

Horror goes back to the cave dwellers. Fear is the most primal emotion. Horror tales are as old as written language. The Ballad of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, The Odyssey - all packed with monsters and murderers.

Horror goes back a little further than 1980. I understand liking these guys, but man has more things to fear than these four or five boogeymen and I'd like to hear some new stories.

I am impressed with the allusion to Gilgamesh... It's not too often that we see him cited with the other legendary and classical heroes...

But anyway.

I'm here with Rod. I'm not a huge fan of horror sequels... The only horror sequels that I actually enjoyed were "28 Weeks Later" and "Aliens," and they certainly diverge from the kind of serial memisis that these Boogeymen Big Bad flicks seem to fall into. I think that to make a successful sequel, you have to BUILD from the original (Aliens, for example, built from the first by adding the Queen and the alien nesting ground... 28 Weeks Later takes place in quarantined London), but most of the above simply just take the Boogeyman and give them new stomping grounds and victims.

I love Halloween. It's my favorite scary movie. But I haven't seen a successful sequel to it. I chose, if I had to "To Choose a New Sequel Path." I might consider remaking the second film (I thought it was a BIG mistake to make it more gory and less suspenseful... and I'm not sure if we REALLY needed the Strode backstory). I honestly like the concept of the victim waking up and being in danger immediately. Too often do we see victims swept away and then we never follow their fate... I like that concept, but I would make it better. I love Mike Myers. I could do with another good film. So I would remake #2 (a decision I have made and stuck with over YEARS now).

But Rod's right. I'd LOVE to see new Boogeyman.

Honestly, I thought that Jeepers Creepers was incredibly underrated and successful.

Scream was well-constructed for what it was (a DEconstructionist film that functioned as a decent slasher).


I wasn't as big a fan of BEHIND THE MASK and HATCHET as Rod was, though... I feel as though they could have been so, SO much better (Mask was so incredibly smart - VERY smart... but it ultimately failed as a horror film and Hatchet was good gore, but not much else).

BUT

I recognize them for trying to create new stories and mythos. I would like to see more. HOLLYWOOD - STOP CHURNING OUT BAD ASIAN HORROR REMAKES.

[Doc Faustus]

When I want to see them , I put on the original. I probably watch HALLOWEEN (JC's not RZ's) at least once a month.

But Freddy, Jason, Micheal, etc. are far from the foundations of horror. They aren't even the founding fathers of horror film - that's for Nosferatu, Frankenstein's, Der Golem etc.

Horror goes back to the cave dwellers. Fear is the most primal emotion. Horror tales are as old as written language. The Ballad of Gilgamesh, Beowulf, The Odyssey - all packed with monsters and murderers.

Horror goes back a little further than 1980. I understand liking these guys, but man has more things to fear than these four or five boogeymen and I'd like to hear some new stories.
Definitely true. I appreciated the new Halloween because of my weariness with 80s horror canon icons. New stories definitely need to be told, although Freddy, Jason and Michael Myers have worked because they do hit on something primal. Jason and Michael Myers are embodiments of death that cannot be rationalized or comprehended. They are the Black Annis,the Breathstealer, the Wendigo. That being said, it grows tiresome because they must be rationalized. There is no potential terminus, no potential solution and no real movement but towards rationalizing, explaining, uncovering and negating something that thrives on mystery. New slasher franchises like the Saw films (in spite of being torture porn/ slasher hybrids with no supernatural elements) aren't really the solution but a repetition of the same issues. A new approach is needed or else we'll be stuck with the tired slasher icons of yesteryear. Why? Because you can't kill or rationalize your way out of the Michael Myers/ Jason cultural dialogue any more than we can bribe AIDS or scare infant mortality away. More nuance is necessary. What is ACTUALLY scary? Digging deeper is necessary. Faceless death is not the be-all and end-all of fear, in fact its primal to the point of being simplistic. I'm not standing behind the new horror writers who write stories about a guy whose lamp is broken or whose girlfriend might be cheating and calling it horror, I'm just saying that some things are really deep down shit-your-pants horrifying about life nowadays and they ain't the Wendigo, the Manticore or the frumious Bandersnatch, nor are they retarded people with farm tools. I agree that if a child is handicapped and the victim of abuse they should not be given farm tools to play with and have their homes torn apart by reckless teenagers. Child abuse is bad, farm tools are sharp and teenagers can be jerks. I feel sorry for anybody who needs to learn these particular rudiments of life. All in all, horror can be better if we dig deeper and are more honest. The secret to great horror has always been honesty. Look at Pet Semetery. The Wendigo and the Monkey's Paw come together with brutal honesty to make something the hits us where we live. Look at the face of Emil Jannings in Murnau' s Faust. What we once thought of as hoary and Medieval becomes visceral, real and disgusting. This is what we need to be afraid of in ourselves, this is what we give into if we compromise our ethics. Honesty, intimacy and transgression are necessary for the genre to go anywhere. Hockey masks have no place in the equation.

[CrimsonFiend138]

WOW.....Bravo that was really inciteful

[James Whale]

Am I the only one who thinks this film is creepy and atmospheric? I haven't seen this one since its original release. I remember walking away from this film thinking how well done it was; then, I heard only negative things about it from critics and fans alike. I think I'll rent it tonight and rewatch it with my horror snob, critic's hat on. I would really like as many opinions on this film as possible; don't hold back. If you hate it ,give me your best vitriolic rants. Actually, I enjoy negative reviews more than positive. Some vituperations against againt a hated film drip with sarcasm and passion. I often find the passion and style in negative reviews very amusing. Lord knows, I may check back in here with a negative review of my own. PAX VOBISCUM!

[The_Return]

I wouldn't say that I hated it...I just found it really bland ad too self-aware. Plus, seeing Pleasence in such poor health was really, really hard to watch.

[The Dark Shape]

This movie has steadily grown on my since I first viewed. I strongly disliked when I first watched, but after viewing it several more times, I really start to like it. It explains quit a bit into the Thorn plot and is actually a pretty good slasher movie.

While it was very sad to see that this would be Pleasence's final movie in the series, you can't take away how creative this movie was. It's really one of a kind in this series. You can link it to H4 and H5, but it is still separable from those movies. I would LOVE to see the next Halloween movie continue where this one left off. I would really like to see a storyline with Tommy Doyle in it again, although the Akkads have made it very clear that the Thorn storyline is dead.

[Elvis_Christ]

It's the best of the sequels apart from Halloween II. Its another flick that gets ragged on a bunch that I dig a lot. The series went to shit after this one.

[illdojo]

It's the best of the sequels apart from Halloween II. Its another flick that gets ragged on a bunch that I dig a lot. The series went to shit after this one.

I hear ya, Elvis...I saw it in the theater when it came out and was impressed with how strong the violence was... Part 6 has a huge body count too....always a plus in my book. :cool:

[Elvis_Christ]

I hear ya, Elvis...I saw it in the theater when it came out and was impressed with how strong the violence was... Part 6 has a huge body count too....always a plus in my book. :cool:

Essential ingredients of a slasher flick!

It's a really dark flick too. Mikey Myers found his menace again in this one. Its a pity this got overshadowed by all the Screamteen flicks at the time. It was a really dumb move that they didn't stick with the formula used in this one and went onto ruin the series by trying to imitate Scream with H20 and Ressurection.

[illdojo]

Essential ingredients of a slasher flick!

It's a really dark flick too. Mikey Myers found his menace again in this one. Its a pity this got overshadowed by all the Screamteen flicks at the time. It was a really dumb move that they didn't stick with the formula used in this one and went onto ruin the series by trying to imitate Scream with H20 and Ressurection.

Fuck an A!!!! The only reason to watch H20 is JLC being back...but Resurrection is fucking horrendous.

[Elvis_Christ]

The opening to Resurrection was really cool but the rest is embarrasing.

It'd be cool to see JLC do more horror flicks like back in the day.

[The Dark Shape]

I'll admit H20 was a bit too "teenybopper," but it was still a good flick and is one of my favorite sequels.

Halloween, Halloween II, Halloween H20, Halloween 4, Halloween "6", Halloween 5, Halloween Resurrection are the way they go for me.

[Elvis_Christ]

Halloween II is my favorite of the series. I really dig the energy that flick's got.

[James Whale]

HALLOWEEN 4 and 5 are my least favorite in the series. I really appreciate the feedback on part 6. 4 and 5 have that little girl plot. It just isn't cool. Of course Danielle Harris showed how pert her breasts had become in ZOMBIE's mixed bag of a movie. I just couldn't stand her in parts 4 and 5. Part 5 is the worst in the series. Really dumb teenagers who I hated were stalked and killed.Boring. Isn't it cool to be talking about something other than ZOMBIE's remake?

[Elvis_Christ]

I like Halloween 4. Maybe it's more of a sentimental thing cuz I saw it when I was 8 or 9 and it was my introduction to the series.

[arifkara28]

LONG LIVE MICHAEL MYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember watching them when i was young, I LOVED michael myers/ Nightmare on elm street/ Jason/ childs play....
Acculy today im going to buy the First halloween 1978 and the whole season of nightmare on elm street :)
Long Live these MonSTERS!!!

[James Whale]

I haven't seen part 6 since 1995; I don't like to watch movies over and over; it takes away from the initial effect. There's an alchemy to the first viewing of a movie. It also takes away from the effect when you stop and start a movie as well. I believe a movie has the greatest effect when it is watched all the way through with no interruptions. I believe now more than ever that part 5 of HALLOWEEN is the second best in the series. The lighting and story are fantastic. I don't understand why the critics panned this one. H20 came next and was very good, but RESSURECTION sucked. This film is twice the film that ROB ZOMBIE made and I liked Zombie's take .Okay, the druid stuff is a bit silly, but there are so many great suspenseful scenes with great music and even better atmosphere. There is a lot of talent on display here.

[crazy raplh]

i still think 3 is the best. Funny I was watching part 6 like 3 nights ago and was thinking how annoying the guy is. expecially the phone call. in the beginning. the rest were ok.

[illdojo]

i still think 3 is the best. Funny I was watching part 6 like 3 nights ago and was thinking how annoying the guy is. expecially the phone call. in the beginning. the rest were ok.

:eek: Part 3? It has NOTHING to do with the series....I dig it for nostalgic reasons, but it's definitely bottom of the barrel.

[James Whale]

part 6 ,not 5!!! My mistake!!

[reds_21]

I have finally watched all the Halloween movies minus the Rob Zombie version. After watching all of them, one question still remains.

at the end of Halloween part 2, there was that brown haired girl that was dressed like a clown (just like Michael Myers was in part 1) and at the end of the movie they show her walk up behind her aunt and kill her with a pair of scissors.

what ever happened to this girl? i never saw what came of her after that.

does anyone know?

[kstefanec]

Don't you mean H4? Which continues in H5? :confused: Better dig those movies out again and watch them in order. Jamie wakes up in a mental ward unable to talk in H5. Hope this helps!:)

[reds_21]

i just looked up the cast on halloween 5, Jamie was played by Danielle Harris. she is the one that killed her aunt with scissors. (not episode 2; sorry)

when i read the description of part 4, it says that she gets the help of Dr. Loomis to stop Michael Myers. i guess where I got lost was that after she kiled her aunt, it never entioned anything about it in any of the later episodes.

did she kill her aunt and that was that? you never heard about her killing her aunt after that.........................what happened?

[The_Return]

Here's what I'm struggling to figure out: did you actually watch the movies, or just read plot descriptions online?

[reds_21]

i watched the movies but i went back to the descriptions to see which episode that girl first appeared in. i thought it was 2 but i was mistaken.

but i dont know what that has to do with anyhting.

my question was, what ever happened to her killing her aunt? i dont recall ever hearing anything about it

[Doc Faustus]

Franchise horror and continuity are like paella and butterscotch. In the few instances where the two met, the results were sorta disastrous.

[neverending]

Hah- very clever Doc.

[Zero]

hey - i like butterscotch paella - just as much as turpentine lollipops - yummy

[freddy69]

dude u dont watch much horror movies do u , thats halloween 4 , damn get them rite :D