Did You Know That We Learn Stereotypes As Children?

[bloodrayne]

So...The 'Avatar' thread, where popular Sesame Street characters were discussed, prompted us to think about how popular kid's show characters would be 'labeled' in today's society...

What started out as an off-handed remark about Snuffy and Eeyore being 'emo', turned into an entire discussion here (Hey, it was fun...Seri and Stupid Shane chimed in, too :p)

So...I'll give you what we came up with...Then you guys give us some of yours :)


Sesame Street:

Big Bird: Jock
Elmo: Crackhead...Speed Freak
Cookie Monster: The Fat Guy
Bert and Ernie: Gay couple
Oscar: Metalhead
Grover: Nerd/Geek
The Count: Goth
Snuffy: Emo...or...STONER (think about it, his eyes were always half-closed, and the way he walked and talked ;))


Muppets:

Kermit: Popular Nerd
Miss Piggy: Slut/Preppy
Gonzo: Freak
Animal: Metalhead/Stoner
Fozzy: Funny Guy/Dweeb


Winnie The Pooh:

Pooh: The Fat Guy
Tigger: Crackhead/Speed Freak
Owl: Nerd
Rabbit: OCD Geek
Eyeore: Emo/Stoner
Piglet: Effeminate/Gay
Christopher Robin: Prep



Opinions?...Got anymore?

[crabapple]

Okay, you need to CALM DOWN, CALM DOWN, relax. It's ohhhhhhhhhhh-kay. Those bad people are not going to harm you any more, no one is here that will devalue you as a human or hurt you either physically or mentally, ohkayyyyy? I want you to look dowwwwwwwn. That thing below you is called the eaaaaaaaarth and I want you to float back dowwwwwwwn to it. We can take it niiiiiice and easy. Nooooooo one's in a hurry.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by crabapple
Okay, you need to CALM DOWN, CALM DOWN, relax. It's ohhhhhhhhhhh-kay. Those bad people are not going to harm you any more, no one is here that will devalue you as a human or hurt you either physically or mentally, ohkayyyyy? I want you to look dowwwwwwwn. That thing below you is called the eaaaaaaaarth and I want you to float back dowwwwwwwn to it. We can take it niiiiiice and easy. Nooooooo one's in a hurry. LOL...That's not an opinion, OR a contribution...That's just a random comment...:p


You wouldn't believe HALF of the goofy shit we discuss here :D

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
So...The 'Avatar' thread, where popular Sesame Street characters were discussed, prompted us to think about how popular kid's show characters would be 'labeled' in today's society...

What started out as an off-handed remark about Snuffy and Eeyore being 'emo', turned into an entire discussion here (Hey, it was fun...Seri and Stupid Shane chimed in, too :p)

So...I'll give you what we came up with...Then you guys give us some of yours :)


Sesame Street:

Big Bird: Jock
Elmo: Crackhead...Speed Freak
Cookie Monster: The Fat Guy
Bert and Ernie: Gay couple
Oscar: Metalhead
Grover: Nerd/Geek
The Count: Goth
Snuffy: Emo...or...STONER (think about it, his eyes were always half-closed, and the way he walked and talked ;))


Muppets:

Kermit: Popular Nerd
Miss Piggy: Slut/Preppy
Gonzo: Freak
Animal: Metalhead/Stoner
Fozzy: Funny Guy/Dweeb


Winnie The Pooh:

Pooh: The Fat Guy
Tigger: Crackhead/Speed Freak
Owl: Nerd
Rabbit: OCD Geek
Eyeore: Emo/Stoner
Piglet: Effeminate/Gay
Christopher Robin: Prep



Opinions?...Got anymore?
lol. okay this is taken a little too far. they are no highschool stereotypes in sesame street lol. and im pretty sure Eyore isnt a stoner. lol and how is bigbird a jock? Count aint gothic...he's a vampire for christ's sake.

[stubbornforgey]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
So...The 'Avatar' thread, where popular Sesame Street characters were discussed, prompted us to think about how popular kid's show characters would be 'labeled' in today's society...

What started out as an off-handed remark about Snuffy and Eeyore being 'emo', turned into an entire discussion here (Hey, it was fun...Seri and Stupid Shane chimed in, too :p)

So...I'll give you what we came up with...Then you guys give us some of yours :)


Sesame Street:

Big Bird: Jock
Elmo: Crackhead...Speed Freak
Cookie Monster: The Fat Guy
Bert and Ernie: Gay couple
Oscar: Metalhead
Grover: Nerd/Geek
The Count: Goth
Snuffy: Emo...or...STONER (think about it, his eyes were always half-closed, and the way he walked and talked ;))


Muppets:

Kermit: Popular Nerd
Miss Piggy: Slut/Preppy
Gonzo: Freak
Animal: Metalhead/Stoner
Fozzy: Funny Guy/Dweeb


Winnie The Pooh:

Pooh: The Fat Guy
Tigger: Crackhead/Speed Freak
Owl: Nerd
Rabbit: OCD Geek
Eyeore: Emo/Stoner
Piglet: Effeminate/Gay
Christopher Robin: Prep



Opinions?...Got anymore?

I always peged kermit as being a little skitso and miss piggy a whore'..
Look at how that lil pig flicks her hair ..
n puhlease..THE OUTFITS..
kinda revealing 'blush'

[Vodstok]

eyore would be a good fgoth, he is chronically depressed so he could be one of the "everything sucks. Entropy rules" types.

Miss piggy always struck me as the fat slut type. You know, acts like she has these lofty standards, no one is good enough, but deep down you know she has 0 self esteem and would suck off a 90 year old if he told her she was pretty, or at least paid attention to her rack.

You know kermit didnt want her and she was banging gonzo on the side because he told her he loved her.

Of course, you have to watch out for gonzo. when Piggy wont pay attention to him, he chases the chickens... Some day, piggy will do a love scene, and gonzo will show up, pissed as her front dorr with a .357

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by The Mothman
im pretty sure Eyore isnt a stoner
Dude...You KNOW that if Eyeore was your kid, you'd be asking him, "Son...Have you been smoking pot?"...

Eyeore: "Dude, Where's my tail?" :D
Originally posted by The Mothman
how is bigbird a jock? Big Bird is the big popular guy, and haven't you seen him play football?...lol
Originally posted by The Mothman
Count aint gothic...he's a vampire for christ's sake. Umm...Sweetie...That IS the 'stereotype'... :)

And...We were just having fun with the subject :)

[bloodrayne]

@Vod and Stubborn...You made us laugh REAL good...hahaha

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by bloodrayne

Big Bird is the big popular guy, and haven't you seen him play football?.
no, cant say i have.

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by The Mothman
no, cant say i have. Where have you been? big bird plays Football all the time. He smashed grover once, and i know i heard him say "Eat that, Bioatch!"

Little bird kicked him while he was down. Sesame Street i sactually really bad for kids.. Its a ghetto these days.

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by bloodrayne

Umm...Sweetie...That IS the 'stereotype'... :)

And...We were just having fun with the subject :)
alot of times (Im trying my hardest no to offend anyone) gothic people pretend/try to be vampires, whilst count IS a vampire. but whatever, its all in good fun anyways.

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by Vodstok
Where have you been? big bird plays Football all the time. He smashed grover once, and i know i heard him say "Eat that, Bioatch!"

:p

[Ooky_Kabuki]

I'm a little skeptical. Some of those were probably correct but I did notice that on the ones that you said were emo you automatically also associated them with stoners. I am pretty close to emo and I have emo friends and none of us are stoners at all. It's cool if that's not how it was meant, but that seems like it was meant to sound like that.

[Vodstok]

What came first? The goth or the vampire?


See, goths act like vampires. But vampires appear to be dead goths. So, are goths dressing like vampires, who happen to be dead goths?


Or are va,pires dead goths, who were goths, because they wanted to look like vampires, even though the vampires didnt look like goths, but turned the goths into vampires, so now vampires look like goths, because they are goths, who got turned into vampires, and goths now look like vampires, because vampirtes look like goths, and they like the look?


or maybe vampires didnt look like goths, until goths started dressing like that, and vampires stole their look.

So maybe the count is just a dead goth.

or a chicken. i cant remember. What were we talking about?


Oh yeah. if i sweat maple syrup, do you think bees would chase me?

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by Ooky_Kabuki
I'm a little skeptical. Some of those were probably correct but I did notice that on the ones that you said were emo you automatically also associated them with stoners. I am pretty close to emo and I have emo friends and none of us are stoners at all. It's cool if that's not how it was meant, but that seems like it was meant to sound like that. Okay, i was a nerd when i was in high school, so i am pretty much out of the loop, always.


what the hell is an emo?


like emo phillips? perhaps an emu?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bloodrayne

Big Bird: Jock



I'm seriously offended by that.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by The Mothman
alot of times (Im trying my hardest no to offend anyone) gothic people pretend/try to be vampires, whilst count IS a vampire. but whatever, its all in good fun anyways. Baby...Listen to me now...The count...isn't...real....And...There are ...no...REAL...Vampires...

:p :D

*muah*


Seriously though...The Vampire thing has always been tied to the goth thing...ever heard of Anne Rice?...Bram Stoker?...They are often considered 'Gothic Horror writers'


I am often called a Vampire, just because I'm pale (natural redhead), I HATE the sun (umm, that's because I'm pale too, it burns my skin and hurts my eyes), I'm a night person (have WAY more energy at night), so I sleep during the day (IF I sleep at all), My incisors are long and pointy, And everyone says I look younger than I am (it's cool though, I won a big prize for the baby last night from the 'guess your age' guy at the fair...He was WAY off...lol).....I also get lumped into the 'goth' thing, probably just because of the way I dress, the people I hang out with, and the fact that I love ALL things related to horror, blood, guts, etcetera....

This is why stereotypes are so stupid...AND...therefore...FUNNY

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Ooky_Kabuki
I'm a little skeptical. Some of those were probably correct but I did notice that on the ones that you said were emo you automatically also associated them with stoners. I am pretty close to emo and I have emo friends and none of us are stoners at all. It's cool if that's not how it was meant, but that seems like it was meant to sound like that. The ' /' means that they could be either...Because they possess common traits of both...Certainly NOT that emo=stoner

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I'm seriously offended by that. Anyone who has children, and has therefore been subjected to many hours of Sesame Street, HAS seen Big Bird play football (with his beak sticking out of the front of his helmet :D)....And, he's the 'main' guy that everyone wants to hang out with...He's also a BIG guy (like a footbal player)...So...All that we could come up with for him was 'jock'

[Ooky_Kabuki]

Emo is like you're an emotional person. I guess you wear black and stuff. My Chemical Romance (the band) is emo.

I'm not actually in high school but I still consider myself a TAD emo.

[AUSTIN316426808]

I've had to endure hours and hours of it myself with my little brothers, I've seen him ''play football'' as you like to call it.

In all honesty, he's kinda drag queen-ish to me.

[Phalanx]

True...it's the eyelashes.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I've had to endure hours and hours of it myself with my little brothers, I've seen him ''play football'' as you like to call it.

In all honesty, he's kinda drag queen-ish to me. :D Originally posted by Phalanx
True...it's the eyelashes. Oh...Talk about eyelashes...Snuffy's absolutely flutter :D

[Phalanx]

Is that the big purple elephant thing? I think I remember that...

Yeah, BB looks like a cancan dragbitch, and talks like a junkie.

[Vodstok]

the kid in me loves the frosting, but the attention whore in me thought this was pretty godamn funny.

Originally posted by Vodstok
What came first? The goth or the vampire?


See, goths act like vampires. But vampires appear to be dead goths. So, are goths dressing like vampires, who happen to be dead goths?


Or are va,pires dead goths, who were goths, because they wanted to look like vampires, even though the vampires didnt look like goths, but turned the goths into vampires, so now vampires look like goths, because they are goths, who got turned into vampires, and goths now look like vampires, because vampirtes look like goths, and they like the look?


or maybe vampires didnt look like goths, until goths started dressing like that, and vampires stole their look.

So maybe the count is just a dead goth.

or a chicken. i cant remember. What were we talking about?


Oh yeah. if i sweat maple syrup, do you think bees would chase me?

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Phalanx
Is that the big purple elephant thing? I think I remember that...

Purple?...You just made me think "If Barney And Snuffy had a baby" :D

Actually...He's dark brown and VERY hairy...I think he's supposed to be a woolly mammoth...He started out as Big Bird's imaginary friend...

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Vodstok
the kid in me loves the frosting, but the attention whore in me thought this was pretty godamn funny. Yes Sweetheart, it was VERY funny....*Pats Vod on the head*...What kind of cookie would you like?




Seriously..We DID laugh :)

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Vodstok


So maybe the count is just a dead goth.

or a chicken. i cant remember. What were we talking about?


Oh yeah. if i sweat maple syrup, do you think bees would chase me?


Didn't read the last 3 lines the first time, that is pretty damn funny, literally broke down laughing.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
He started out as Big Bird's imaginary friend...


Everytime he'd tell somebody about him and they just blew it off like he was nuts I'd just laugh my ass off, I thought that shit was hilarious.

[Vodstok]

Big Bird: Everyone! Snuffleuppugus is real! Why wont you listen?! Oh my god.... The ants.... The ANTS! they are on me! getting into every pore! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!



*grabs drinking fountain, smashes window and runs off into sunset*



Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Didn't read the last 3 lines the first time, that is pretty damn funny, literally broke down laughing. :D

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Everytime he'd tell somebody about him and they just blew it off like he was nuts I'd just laugh my ass off, I thought that shit was hilarious. HaHa...yeah...And he would be like, "see? he's standing right over there"...And everyone would look RIGHT after Snuffy would walk off, then when they told Big Bird no one was there, Big Bird would look and he'd be back again, so he would tell them again "he's right there"...That made it even worse....

Or he would tell them "He's meeting me here" and they would wait and wait, then they'd just feel sorry for him, and they would leave...After they were gone Snuffy would show up and say that he was sorry he was late, he either got lost or had something to do or something...

OH...And when they asked Big Bird to describe him...lol...They just looked at him like he was psychotic or something...

That shit WAS funny:D

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Vodstok
Big Bird: Everyone! Snuffleuppugus is real! Why wont you listen?! Oh my god.... The ants.... The ANTS! they are on me! getting into every pore! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!



*grabs drinking fountain, smashes window and runs off into sunset*



:D LMAO...Big Bird flew over the cuckoo's nest

[Vodstok]

Or one flew over the big bird's nest.


I love that movie, i think that is Danny Devito's best role ever.




Big Bird: Snuffy.. What the hell man?! everyone thinks Im nuts.
Snuffy: Listen to me, you yellow queer... Stop telling people about me. Do you want me to start the Dead Time again? Do you remember what you did to those women?
Big bird: *starts sobbing*
Snuffy: Thats right... No talking means no cleansing. now... on your knees, little one...

See? this is why i write good horror. I have "issues"

[Dude Guadalupe]

Originally posted by Vodstok

Big Bird: Snuffy.. What the hell man?! everyone thinks Im nuts.
Snuffy: Listen to me, you yellow queer... Stop telling people about me. Do you want me to start the Dead Time again? Do you remember what you did to those women?
Big bird: *starts sobbing*
Snuffy: Thats right... No talking means no cleansing. now... on your knees, little one...

That is awesome...........you're my new hero

[Vodstok]

:D Glad to be of service :D

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by bloodrayne



Sever heard of Anne Rice?.

haha ya i caught my x gf reading some of that stuff once. i opened the book to a random page and it was talking about vampires sucking blood from pussies. ill never stop bothering her about that lol.

[The Mothman]

he's looking a little cracked-out in this pic.

http://www.dailypepper.com/mt/archives/snuffalupagus.jpg

[The Mothman]

haha. look what i found.

http://r4nd0mn3ss.tripod.com/images/bertandernie.jpg

[PR3SSUR3]

Some people go on about children's programmes being full of allusions to sex and drugs, but these are mostly students who go though that 'it's hip to bang on about the old shows, but only in a hip and ironic way, man' phase.

There are '100 Greatest (films, comedy, kids TV, whatever) Ever' shows on British television quite regularly (insufferably repeated to death), and these often feature chirpy young Z-list celebrity things being all clever in their soundbites about the kids stuff they - allegedly - used to watch as a child.

I say some of their lines are scripted in keeping with the tone of the programme, but in any event it seems trendy to look back at things we used to watch and replace the genuine awe and wonder we felt in the learning process with the same kind of knowing cleverness that festers in the likes of the Scream films.

It makes you wonder if we have gone forwards or backwards in becoming all cynically self-aware, and seeming almost embarrassed about admitting that such simple stories and concepts once terrified and intrigued our innocent minds.

[Vodstok]

Sounds like you are describing the VH1 "I Love the" (insert decade) series. They were pretty funny 3 years ago. Now... Douchebags liek Michael ian Black seem to tthink that if they say something arbitrary and ridiculous, or obvious, but say it with a straight face, thar they are terribly clever and that people should be rolling on the floor, like they are a new gen Monty Python.

The problem is, Monty Python were funny. There was an actual intellect behind what they said and did.

That being said, we are just being assholes :D it's funny injecting sick allusions into the innocent leftovers from our childhood.

[crabapple]

Well, if we make fun of the past, then that proves we don't miss whatever was going on back then; just as if you make fun of a person, that proves you don't envy that person.

[Phalanx]

...and if you make fun of a kitten, it makes a funny look on its face.

[crabapple]

Exactly.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Some people go on about children's programmes being full of allusions to sex and drugs, but these are mostly students who go though that 'it's hip to bang on about the old shows, but only in a hip and ironic way, man' phase.

There are '100 Greatest (films, comedy, kids TV, whatever) Ever' shows on British television quite regularly (insufferably repeated to death), and these often feature chirpy young Z-list celebrity things being all clever in their soundbites about the kids stuff they - allegedly - used to watch as a child.

I say some of their lines are scripted in keeping with the tone of the programme, but in any event it seems trendy to look back at things we used to watch and replace the genuine awe and wonder we felt in the learning process with the same kind of knowing cleverness that festers in the likes of the Scream films.

It makes you wonder if we have gone forwards or backwards in becoming all cynically self-aware, and seeming almost embarrassed about admitting that such simple stories and concepts once terrified and intrigued our innocent minds. Okay but...Alice In Wonderland and Wizard Of Oz are total acid trips :p

Alice In Wonderland, with the pills that make you big or small, and the hooka toking caterpillar...The cat who becomes invisible, all but his giant grin...

Wizard Of Oz, talking trees, flying monkeys, pastel horses...Poppy fields...

:D