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ENTITY2000
07-23-2006, 02:20 PM
this movie looks awesome! can't wait to see it! and also Pulse, that looks pretty scary too!:cool:
what about you guys!?
IDrinkYourBlood
07-23-2006, 04:10 PM
Im really looking forward to this movie, pulse not so much, but deffinitly gonna go see The Decent first night.
AUSTIN316426808
07-23-2006, 04:18 PM
I've already seen The Descent but it'll be cool to catch on the big screen.
Pulse has about a 97% chance of not being better, as good as or even in the same realm as Kairo. I'll wait for the dvd unless some friends want to go or I get really bored(which is extremely likely to happen).
Killemall
07-23-2006, 04:34 PM
I will see it just to see how much of it is different then the older version..I Heard they changed the ending alot..BUt i will see it for sure.
Korpse
07-23-2006, 06:21 PM
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Congrats!
Vodstok
07-26-2006, 08:19 AM
Man, i didnt give a damn about this movie until i found out it was from Neil "Dog Soldiers" Marshall. I am excited now :)
danjerboy
07-26-2006, 08:28 AM
I actually bought this on ebay a couple of months ago. I didn't know it was a new movie coming out, and it's a real dvd, not a bootleg or anything.
Based on the dvd I bought I thought it was going to be a total B movie time waster.
Turns out, it's a pretty good film. Very much along the lines of "The Cave", I think I like it better, but the ending is pretty weak.
Angra
07-26-2006, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I've already seen The Descent but it'll be cool to catch on the big screen.
Because itīs synchronized , right?;) So you can understand what they are saying, right?;) So you can understand the movie, right?;) Am i right?;) Im right, right?;) Right?.. right?.. right..?;) :D
makemebad
07-26-2006, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by danjerboy
I actually bought this on ebay a couple of months ago. I didn't know it was a new movie coming out, and it's a real dvd, not a bootleg or anything.
Based on the dvd I bought I thought it was going to be a total B movie time waster.
Turns out, it's a pretty good film. Very much along the lines of "The Cave", I think I like it better, but the ending is pretty weak.
I seriously hope it is not like the cave
it better be creepy then whatever cave was
danjerboy
07-26-2006, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by makemebad
I seriously hope it is not like the cave
it better be creepy then whatever cave was
Let's see: cavedivers get trapped in cave, cavedivers get chased around by unseen foe, cavedivers aren't sure who the enemy really is, etc.
nope...not like the cave at all... :D
Angra
07-26-2006, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by makemebad
I seriously hope it is not like the cave
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
"The descent" was one of the very best horror movies to come out of 2005. "The cave" was one of the worst.
The difference is huge.
spookychild
07-27-2006, 04:35 AM
I have seen it and I just felt very clausterphobic throughout the whole movie.
AUSTIN316426808
07-27-2006, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Angra
Because itīs synchronized , right?;) So you can understand what they are saying, right?;) So you can understand the movie, right?;) Am i right?;) Im right, right?;) Right?.. right?.. right..?;) :D
What the hell are you talking about?
Angelakillsluts
07-27-2006, 07:41 PM
I'm seeing it, I watch every new horror movie in the theater. :) :(
AUSTIN316426808
07-27-2006, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
I'm seeing it, I watch every new horror movie in the theater. :) :(
You poor girl, all the shit you've been through and wasted your money on in the last couple years.
Angra
07-27-2006, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
What the hell are you talking about?
The british language.;)
tarcher80
07-28-2006, 05:27 AM
http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23254&perpage=15&pagenumber=2 (http://)
tarcher80
07-31-2006, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by omcdave
dog soldiers was slow i did not get into it. should i whach it again.
yes definitely.
Jake Helgren
08-01-2006, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by danjerboy
I actually bought this on ebay a couple of months ago. I didn't know it was a new movie coming out, and it's a real dvd, not a bootleg or anything.
Based on the dvd I bought I thought it was going to be a total B movie time waster.
Turns out, it's a pretty good film. Very much along the lines of "The Cave", I think I like it better, but the ending is pretty weak.
It's funny you say that...I got this awhile back, too, on DVD, when my friends in the UK highly recommended it. I think this is one of the best horror films ever made! I'm just super-disappointed that they're changing the ending for the American release.
I think the ending is beautiful and symbolic and necessary to stay true to following the journey of the heroine, and I'm sorely disappointed they've chosen to Hollywood-ize the ending for the American release.
Angelakillsluts
08-01-2006, 07:33 PM
I have the DVD now (my uncle gave it to me, downloaded and converted etc.) I got it to torture myself I think... I'm definitely not watching it before I see it in the theater.
DieMonsterDie
08-03-2006, 01:37 PM
The Descent was pretty good. My friend's dad burned a copy of the british dvd so I have to see the different ending with the one that's being released in theaters tomorrow. The fx are pretty good and the creatures are some of the best in recent creature history. WAY better than the Cave.
Pulse on the other hand...I think it looks ok, but it's been hiped up so long and the date keeps changing that I think it will let everyone down. I saw my first trailer for it on Wolf Creek back in December and I'm tired of hearing about it now.
If anyone seen the Descent in the US theatre, tell me if you think its worth 10 bucks? I am hearing only good things about this movie, even some critics are enjoying this movie. Lot of movie goers are also giving this movie thumbs up.
Is this movie better than "The Hills Have Eyes" remake?
joshaube
08-06-2006, 02:59 AM
The Descent and The Cave are very similiar movies.
They both feature cave-dwellers.
They both feature killer creatures.
People die in both.
The difference?
One of the directors can actually make movies.
The Descent is gold. If you're a horror fan and AREN'T going to see it, or haven't already, you're missing out.
PS - What's the other ending? I saw the original UK ending back in '05. Can someone PM me what happens?
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Is it just cut down to where she escapes, gets in her car and pukes? In the original this was here, but it turns out to be a dream and she wakes up in the cave, with noises surrounding her, and the camera pans out to credits. Perfect ending IMO.
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Mhm, we need spoiler BBcode.
tarcher80
08-06-2006, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by joshaube
The Descent and The Cave are very similiar movies.
They both feature cave-dwellers.
They both feature killer creatures.
People die in both.
The difference?
One of the directors can actually make movies.
The Descent is gold. If you're a horror fan and AREN'T going to see it, or haven't already, you're missing out.
PS - What's the other ending? I saw the original UK ending back in '05. Can someone PM me what happens?
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Is it just cut down to where she escapes, gets in her car and pukes? In the original this was here, but it turns out to be a dream and she wakes up in the cave, with noises surrounding her, and the camera pans out to credits. Perfect ending IMO.
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Mhm, we need spoiler BBcode.
i just got back from the descent and it definitely lives up to the hype. now excuse me for a moment while i become a critical bastard. the "oh shit" moments were great, but i think neil used a little too many-by the end they had lost some of their value. also i was a little disappointed w/ the creatures-they just look too human. i think if the creatures were a little more shocking in appearance, it would have made the film even scarier. now, that being said i still loved the movie. i may not have jumped (like everyone else in the theatre), but my heart was in my throat more than once. neil marshall does a great job building up the tension then letting it out like a balloon. he gets your mind away from the creatures just long enough that when they pop up it makes for a great scare. decent back story too. i did not know what was going to happen w/ the main characters and their conflict until, well... it happened. the ending that hollywood added wasn't too bad, but the original sounds much better. all in all this is a very well made horror film that should be seen.
hellfire1
08-07-2006, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by tarcher80
i just got back from the descent and it definitely lives up to the hype. now excuse me for a moment while i become a critical bastard. the "oh shit" moments were great, but i think neil used a little too many-by the end they had lost some of their value. also i was a little disappointed w/ the creatures-they just look too human. i think if the creatures were a little more shocking in appearance, it would have made the film even scarier. now, that being said i still loved the movie. i may not have jumped (like everyone else in the theatre), but my heart was in my throat more than once. neil marshall does a great job building up the tension then letting it out like a balloon. he gets your mind away from the creatures just long enough that when they pop up it makes for a great scare. decent back story too. i did not know what was going to happen w/ the main characters and their conflict until, well... it happened. the ending that hollywood added wasn't too bad, but the original sounds much better. all in all this is a very well made horror film that should be seen.
alright... what did they do to the ending ??? someone please tell me.
*** minor spoiler in here ***
the original ending is beautiful. very fitting with the character's journey. for me it couldn't have ended any other way for her. in it's own right, it's a sort of happy ending (brazil, anyone ?). i loved it.
tarcher80
08-07-2006, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by hellfire1
alright... what did they do to the ending ??? someone please tell me.
*** minor spoiler in here ***
the original ending is beautiful. very fitting with the character's journey. for me it couldn't have ended any other way for her. in it's own right, it's a sort of happy ending (brazil, anyone ?). i loved it.
******the descent uk ending spoiler*******
alright did i miss something??? i thought the original ending was the one that was released in the uk: sarah makes it out of the cave, makes it to the car, speeds off, stops and almost gets hit by the semi. then she wakes up in the cave w/ creature noices all around her in the dark, (or so i'm told) it was just a dream. this is the only other ending i know besides the hollywood ending i saw last night.
joshaube
08-07-2006, 06:35 PM
You're missing the question the last few of us have been asking. What did they do to the ending. AKA - What is the US ending? AKA2 - How does it end in the US version? AKA3 - How did it change from the original?
I'd really like to know...
tarcher80
08-07-2006, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by joshaube
You're missing the question the last few of us have been asking. What did they do to the ending. AKA - What is the US ending? AKA2 - How does it end in the US version? AKA3 - How did it change from the original?
I'd really like to know...
sorry, i'm a moron. the us ending goes like this: sarah makes it to the surface, runs down the mountain, jumps in the car and speeds off, pulls over on the side of the road when she's in the clear, almost gets hit by the semi, throws up, then turns back to see juno's dead body or ghost (whatever) in the passenger seat, cut to the photo of the women b/f the expedition, roll credits over photo. i guess hollywood wanted to squeeze in one more scare... it wasn't bad and it did make you jump, but the orginal ending sounds like a much better fit. does that answer your question?
hellfire1
08-07-2006, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by tarcher80
sorry, i'm a moron. the us ending goes like this: sarah makes it to the surface, runs down the mountain, jumps in the car and speeds off, pulls over on the side of the road when she's in the clear, almost gets hit by the semi, throws up, then turns back to see juno's dead body or ghost (whatever) in the passenger seat, cut to the photo of the women b/f the expedition, roll credits over photo. i guess hollywood wanted to squeeze in one more scare... it wasn't bad and it did make you jump, but the orginal ending sounds like a much better fit. does that answer your question?
oh well that sucks. not in all in keeping with the film, or this character in particular. a nice cookie cutter ending, all neatly wrapped up.
i am happy though that for once we get something before you guys, and a better version of it. :D
thanks, btw.
joshaube
08-07-2006, 07:59 PM
Hehe, thanks. :)
That ending doesn't sound TOO bad, but I prefer the original.
alkytrio666
08-08-2006, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by hellfire1
oh well that sucks. not in all in keeping with the film, or this character in particular.
No, it doesn't suck, it's very fitting, and here's why.
SPOILER:
As you might recall, towards the end, Sarah hacks Juno's leg, leaving her to die. Now I don't care what she did, that's a bitch thing to do.
So when she turns around and sees Juno (obviously a mirage, but bloddied up and still living), it's the start of a life-long guilty conscience.
After her daughter died, her life was on her conscience, and she was always hallucinating, seeing her and hearing her.
Erego, Sarah murdered a human being, and now she'll suffer the guilt.
:END SPOILER
Anyway, I thought the movie was brilliant. 9.5/10
Best horror since The Blair Witch Project.
hellfire1
08-08-2006, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by alkytrio666
No, it doesn't suck, it's very fitting, and here's why.
SPOILER:
As you might recall, towards the end, Sarah hacks Juno's leg, leaving her to die. Now I don't care what she did, that's a bitch thing to do.
So when she turns around and sees Juno (obviously a mirage, but bloddied up and still living), it's the start of a life-long guilty conscience.
After her daughter died, her life was on her conscience, and she was always hallucinating, seeing her and hearing her.
Erego, Sarah murdered a human being, and now she'll suffer the guilt.
:END SPOILER
Anyway, I thought the movie was brilliant. 9.5/10
Best horror since The Blair Witch Project.
*** still some spoilers ***
still don't find it in keeping with the character, as throughout the movie, she keeps seeing her daughter, keeps hearing her laugh and is haunted by her. she's obviously losing it. i find the original ending way better because her grip on reality finally snaps, and she gets to be with her daughter, in a certain way.
in the end you don't really care what she did to juno. it's the fact that she reunites with her daughter in her head that is a more interesting concept. the american ending just makes it about her getting her revenge, while the original makes it a bit more profound than that.
that's just my take on it. but agreed, one of the best i've seen in a while.
Angra
08-08-2006, 09:52 AM
*Yet another spoiler*
THE BUTLER DID IT!!!
*End of spoiler*
tarcher80
08-08-2006, 11:02 AM
*****yet yet another spoiler*****
as sarah pushes out into the day light the shark from jaws explodes out of the stream and bites her in half, as jay and silent bob high five on the ledge above and light a spliff. roll credits.
*****end of spoiler******
phantomstranger
08-08-2006, 09:48 PM
Violent,gory, and the best damn horror movie I have seen in a looooog time.
A film that truly builds up the tension and suspense. Great performances and some cool looking monsters. No stupid jokes, no sterotype bimbos, just good solid acting combined with simple but effective FX. This one will be a classic some day.
alkytrio666
08-09-2006, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by phantomstranger
Violent,gory, and the best damn horror movie I have seen in a looooog time.
A film that truly builds up the tension and suspense. Great performances and some cool looking monsters. No stupid jokes, no sterotype bimbos, just good solid acting combined with simple but effective FX. This one will be a classic some day.
Exactly.
*Minor Spoiler*
My favorite part of the movie is when Sarah first sees the thing. It's not a jump moment or anything, it's just so eery, and the buildup was so perfect. It was a genuinely frightening moment, and I haven't seen one of those since The Blair Witch Project.
tarcher80
08-09-2006, 10:18 AM
every time i see a movie that i really like i go on imdb to read the bad reviews, just to see what people could possibly not like about the movie. i did this after seeing the descent and i say w/ out any doubt that those people do not know what they are talking about. this movie is not grounding breaking and doesn't use any new scare tactics. its the way marshall does use those age-old horror formulas that makes this a great film. some of the dissent (pun intended) i read on imdb is just... wrong. what they say sucked about the film just isn't right: the acting, the lighting, scare tactics, camera work, DIRECTION, etc. apathetic morons, go watch the godfather again and take an enema! :p
Spoorloos
08-12-2006, 10:57 PM
i've seen the uk version, whats the deal with the little girl and the birthday cake at the end?:confused: i must have missed something
Scifiguy
08-14-2006, 01:55 PM
Has anyone seen this film? Totally a waste... the "Cave" was better than this one...and now, "The Descent" is reputed to top "The Cave""?
"The Cavern" is too dark, visually. Obviously the director's intent, but most of the time, I could not tell what I was watching on DVD... too much camera movement, too much dark, almost pitch black visuals! When I wish to watch a film...the operative word is..."watch"! This film wasted too much time in repetitious tunnels and never showed any visually stimulating 'cavern' vistas. The ending...don't ask! It was not what I expected... totally disappointing... and left me with one impression: sell my copy of the DVD and get it out of my film library as fast as possible! They could have left this one buried in some remote dark crawlspace somewhere. Very disappointing!:mad:
alkytrio666
08-14-2006, 03:00 PM
So...either you're extremely old or you don't truly love horror...
joshaube
08-14-2006, 05:31 PM
Alky, he's referring to The Cavern, I believe, not The Descent with the following remarks.
PR3SSUR3
08-14-2006, 05:51 PM
The cameraplay throughout the caves in The Descent offers no sense of orientation, but instead of giving the viewer the same suspense of being 'lost' as the unfortunate ladies in the film it is instead just rather bewildering.
The creatures they encounter are not very impressive either, and to make matters worse the director employs the trendy hyper-kinetic editing style to show us that the girls really are 'kicking ass' in case we were in any doubt - Kung-Fu fists fly, bones crunch, familiarity breeds contempt.
But you're obviously all going to see it anyway given that everyone here seems to think this mediocre horror movie is the best thing to come out of Britain since Frank Bruno, so we hope you enjoy your revised 'safe' ending since it's been made all fluffy for the country housing the world's 2nd biggest stash of nuclear weapons.
:D
Scifiguy
08-14-2006, 06:06 PM
Yes... I was only referring to "The Cavern". As to the remarks about how old I am... let's just say that my age has nothing to do with my views... I AM a fan of horror... not gore! There is a difference! If one takes a film such as " The Fly" (original version from the 1950's) or the Bela Lugosi incarnation of Bram Stoker's "Dracula" , or even the earlier German "Nosferatu"...you have TRUE HORROR. No sheared body parts...no pools of body organs... just imagination and a good classic way of 'spooking' the audience, instead of making them sick... this is horror!
"The Cavern" had a bit of the suspense of a good horror film, but cancelled its effect by lousy photography and a poor ending.
"The Descent" may have gore... but, the sheer terror is there to balance it or, perhaps, even surpass it. I will go to see "The Descent", as it contains the elements of a good fright film...plus the fact that you can se what is going on!
Rent "The Cavern".... you will see what I have described as its failures. I did, in fact, like the "Cave"... and anticipate that "Descent" will far outclass the suspense of either film.
... and leave the remarks in your waste basket, sport . They are not needed here.
PR3SSUR3
08-14-2006, 06:13 PM
you can se what is going on!
With the confusing cinematography and rapid-fire editing... good luck!
AUSTIN316426808
08-14-2006, 06:31 PM
Bruno? At least say Lewis.
XtRaVa
08-15-2006, 02:05 PM
Oh right, I take it "The Descent" has only just come out in the US or something? I saw it in the cinema back in 2005. In fact its on the TV right now lol...
It's not that great.
PR3SSUR3
08-15-2006, 02:54 PM
I'll say it again, I believe the British nu-wave of horror movies are better received in America because they are not American films and this is still quite a novelty.
The film isn't that bad, but the buzz surrounding it is quite surprising and, as with Dog Soldiers, 28 Days Later and Shaun of the Dead, it isn't really deserved.
XtRaVa
08-15-2006, 03:31 PM
Dog Soldiers is okay.
28 Days Later isnt great.
But Shaun of the Dead is amazing! However Americans dont seem to understand our humour too much, but in UK Shaun of the Dead is loved by all.
PR3SSUR3
08-15-2006, 04:41 PM
Not by me it isn't.
It's like watching two episodes of Spaced and The Office with its dry characters and irreverent humour, and some Manty Piythaan and slapstick thrown in (the fence-vaulting is a corker) and a zombie theme.
The end seige at the pub was particularly disappointing, devoid of laughs and any real tension.
The film wants us to care about its characters (or are we supposed to be too busy rolling around the floor in mirth?), but this is impossible as we constantly anticipate the next gag or clever parody of the genre.
urgeok
08-15-2006, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Not by me it isn't.
It's like watching two episodes of Spaced and The Office with its dry characters and irreverent humour, and some Manty Piythaan and slapstick thrown in (the fence-vaulting is a corker) and a zombie theme.
The end seige at the pub was particularly disappointing, devoid of laughs and any real tension.
The film wants us to care about its characters (or are we supposed to be too busy rolling around the floor in mirth?), but this is impossible as we constantly anticipate the next gag or clever parody of the genre.
you didnt even like the record throwing scene ?
PR3SSUR3
08-15-2006, 05:17 PM
Hmmm not really - I couldn't get over the fact that they were just (rather limply) tossing records across the garden.
I might have missed that this was a parody of something, though - because a lot of folk go on about it like it's hilarious.
:confused:
urgeok
08-15-2006, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Hmmm not really - I couldn't get over the fact that they were just (rather limply) tossing records across the garden.
I might have missed that this was a parody of something, though - because a lot of folk go on about it like it's hilarious.
:confused:
not a parody - just the choices were funny ..
i think the one they decided to throw was the Batman soundtrack - one of those albums everyone has and nobody ever plays ..
i think there is a lot to what you said about the novelty to the NA audiences though - and its a good reason for us to like them .. i dont know the TV shows you're comparing them to so it still seems fresh and funny to us ..
its like you liking Miami Vice ..hard for me to get my head around ..
its also why I got turned onto the new black filmakers when Lee and Singleton etc came on the scene .. it was fresh and new at the time... a novel approach - and a much needed change ... same with the asian horror films ...
maybe they feel the same way about their films as you do re. the UK flicks ...
evilreign
08-15-2006, 07:03 PM
I saw shaun of the dead and thought it was rather stupid. I dont laugh at much though. Even if its a really good comedy, I still dont usually laugh much. somethings wrong with me, I must be sick
joshaube
08-16-2006, 04:45 AM
Same here. I didn't think Shaun of the Dead was THAT amazing. It was alright. Didn't laugh much either, twice or so. I prefer other horror comedies.
PR3SSUR3
08-16-2006, 05:09 AM
I know what you mean - I guess familiarity and maybe cynicism play a part in that. But sit me down in from of Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock or Airplane! and I'll split my sides.
not a parody - just the choices were funny ..
i think the one they decided to throw was the Batman soundtrack - one of those albums everyone has and nobody ever plays ..
i think there is a lot to what you said about the novelty to the NA audiences though - and its a good reason for us to like them .. i dont know the TV shows you're comparing them to so it still seems fresh and funny to us ..
its like you liking Miami Vice ..hard for me to get my head around ..
its also why I got turned onto the new black filmakers when Lee and Singleton etc came on the scene .. it was fresh and new at the time... a novel approach - and a much needed change ... same with the asian horror films ...
maybe they feel the same way about their films as you do re. the UK flicks ...
I think it's new concepts that are important to me now, not just different approaches. Miami Vice was as fresh to me as a kid as discovering Italian and Japanese horror. But frankly I'm bored of them all now.
It's good that films like The Blair Witch Project, Fight Club, Pulp Fiction and Trainspotting come along every once and a while to make you sit up and take notice again - and rethink your attraction to cinema. Unfortunately, only one of these is a horror film.
Vodstok
08-16-2006, 05:18 AM
hey, trainspotting is close. I'll watch anythign by Boyd, i like his style. I love 28 days later.
PR3SSUR3
08-16-2006, 05:23 AM
Hmmm I think the wheels fell off Danny Boyle's wagon right after Trainspotting, with the bizarre A Life Less Ordinary and derivative 28 Days Later.
I have a certain fondness for The Beach however, and have yet to see Millions.
urgeok
08-16-2006, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Hmmm I think the wheels fell off Danny Boyle's wagon right after Trainspotting, with the bizarre A Life Less Ordinary and derivative 28 Days Later.
I have a certain fondness for The Beach however, and have yet to see Millions.
Millions is well worth a look ..
jesus he did Life Less Ordinary ?
that was a jerky uneven mess ..
XtRaVa
08-16-2006, 06:13 AM
No offense but Americans dont understand our humour, or at least have the same type of humour...the closest to our type of humour you come to is "Curb Your Enthusiasm" but even that is way over the top in our opinions.
It's just because we are two different countries.
urgeok
08-16-2006, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by XtRaVa
No offense but Americans dont understand our humour, or at least have the same type of humour...the closest to our type of humour you come to is "Curb Your Enthusiasm" but even that is way over the top in our opinions.
It's just because we are two different countries.
canadians do - if you've been exposed to it long enough ..
actually - other than very topical political or personal references - i dont understand why anyone wouldnt understand the UK humor ..
anyone with a brain that is ...
XtRaVa
08-16-2006, 07:16 AM
Canadians are great :)
urgeok
08-16-2006, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by XtRaVa
Canadians are great :)
not all of them ... mostly just me..
XtRaVa
08-16-2006, 09:01 AM
Haha, fair enough.
PR3SSUR3
08-16-2006, 10:39 AM
I wonder what our American cousins make about being so dense?
urgeok
08-16-2006, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
I wonder what our American cousins make about being so dense?
they dont know - they cant understand :p
Vodstok
08-16-2006, 10:56 AM
I've been on the outside looking in, even as an american. Trust me, the average american is unaware that they are dense.
"A flea thinks the dog is the world" is an apt analogy.
I like English humor to a point. I thought a lot of the subtle things in shaun of the dead were great, like Shaun lumbering along with a hangover, oblivious to the massive bloody handprint on the fridge door at the convenience store. Had me rolling.
I dont htink 28 days Later was terribly derivative, ithought it was a great spin on an old idea. While the disease thing had always been mentioned in "Zombie" films, there was never an actual root cause, aside from Return of the living dead, but i considered the first 2 spoofs.
Another great thing about it was that it was a non-zombie zombie film. Not a single walking corpse in the whole movie.
urgeok
08-16-2006, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
I dont htink 28 days Later was terribly derivative, ithought it was a great spin on an old idea. While the disease thing had always been mentioned in "Zombie" films, there was never an actual root cause, aside from Return of the living dead, but i considered the first 2 spoofs.
Another great thing about it was that it was a non-zombie zombie film. Not a single walking corpse in the whole movie.
not that it's something i require in a movie - especially horror - but 28 Days was also the closest thing to a plausible 'zombie' movie ... like the Crazies, or Rabid ..
Vodstok
08-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
not that it's something i require in a movie - especially horror - but 28 Days was also the closest thing to a plausible 'zombie' movie ... like the Crazies, or Rabid .. I agree, thats part of what i liked about it. It really worked on feelings of isolation in the beginning. I had a dream once that i was trpped out in the country in a small house on a foggy morning, and zombies started comingout of the woodwork. it played on the feelings i had had in that dream very well.
PR3SSUR3
08-16-2006, 12:30 PM
I like English humor to a point. I thought a lot of the subtle things in shaun of the dead were great, like Shaun lumbering along with a hangover, oblivious to the massive bloody handprint on the fridge door at the convenience store. Had me rolling.
This is the kind of thing I'm getting at - sure, the irony and analogy in scenes like these is present and correct... but Shaun of the Dead is hardly the bellowing laughter-soaked genius of comedy it's made out to be in some quarters. It's a knowing, self-aware film... and I find such things exceptionally difficult to like (except Airplane!, which is of course eternally brilliant).
I've seen so many (mostly shite) post-apocalyptic films in my time that when 28 Days Later came along, all I could see was the same old survivor-story tarted up with low FPS, flashy editing and CGI. When it came to any real suspense or intrigue, I found the film badly wanting.
Spoorloos
08-16-2006, 12:34 PM
did you ever watch the deleted seens from 28 days later, the director cut his favorite seen, i think it would have been among the best seens in the movie, why do directors have such stupid superstitions. i thought the movie was a bore anyway
XtRaVa
08-16-2006, 04:08 PM
I though 28 Days Later was quite poor IMO. The only thing I liked about it is the music they used (In The House - In A Heartbeat) because I like the growing crescendo of that song.
alkytrio666
08-16-2006, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
This is the kind of thing I'm getting at - sure, the irony and analogy in scenes like these is present and correct... but Shaun of the Dead is hardly the bellowing laughter-soaked genius of comedy it's made out to be in some quarters. It's a knowing, self-aware film... and I find such things exceptionally difficult to like (except Airplane!, which is of course eternally brilliant).
I've seen so many (mostly shite) post-apocalyptic films in my time that when 28 Days Later came along, all I could see was the same old survivor-story tarted up with low FPS, flashy editing and CGI. When it came to any real suspense or intrigue, I found the film badly wanting.
I absolutely agree with both points you just made.
'Shaun', for me, was nothing more but a chuckle, and a little boring.
And 28 Days Later just didn't work for me.
I never looked at Shaun as a bellowing laughter-soaked genius of comedy.....but it sure did make me smile.:)
28 Days Later......meh......take it or leave it.
tarcher80
08-17-2006, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by newb
I never looked at Shaun as a bellowing laughter-soaked genius of comedy.....but it sure did make me smile.:)
28 Days Later......meh......take it or leave it.
that sums it up for me, but i'm only a stupid american :)
on a side note i have a special place in my heart for british humor. growing up i wasn't allowed to watch too much tv. i had parents that wanted me outside playing sports, which was great but its sucks being the only kid not "in the know" w/ tv, video games, etc. when i was allowed to watch tv it was mostly PBS (they refused to get cable). i grew up on: monte python, keeping up appearances, are you being served, fawlty towers, mr. bean, the black adder, etc. definitely an acquired taste, but clever and definitely funny.
XtRaVa
08-17-2006, 06:57 AM
Next British comedy/horror coming soon is "Severence". Obviously a pun on the film "Deliverence" so will probably be along the same lines as that film, but with limbs getting chopped off :D
Not sure when you guys in the US will get it though. I'll write a review or something when its out, its from the same people as Shaun of the Dead. It doesnt look amazing, but could have some good bits.
urgeok
08-17-2006, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by XtRaVa
but could have some good bits.
pun intended ?
XtRaVa
08-17-2006, 07:08 AM
lol :P