Who Burns And Who Doesn't

[CHRIS24]

I would just like to know by a set of hands who burns and who buys.

[The Mothman]

I never burn. i need the case and everything to be able to say that i actually own it.

[CHRIS24]

the reason why i asked is because I have downloaded from p2p and have come up with some great stuff and I think its great to burn any dvd you want instead of paying for it because I am a poor basterd

[Despare]

I collect so I buy, I have all the cases/inserts/even the coupons. I do burn copies of some to check them out first or keep my rare dvds in good condition but that's about it. I am halfway through Cars though...

[The_Return]

I download movies on the rare occasion, but I never burn them.

[Elvis_Christ]

I do a bit of both.

[Killemall]

Both here too.Clasics are must buy and the others well..

[CHRIS24]

the only thing that I hate about downloading them is that they take so freakin long and they eat up alot of space on the hard drive

[Miss Olivia]

I burn.
Doobies.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Despare
I collect so I buy, I have all the cases/inserts/even the coupons. I do burn copies of some to check them out first or keep my rare dvds in good condition but that's about it. I am halfway through Cars though...


same

[Angra]

Originally posted by The_Return
I download movies on the rare occasion, but I never burn them.


Same here.

[knife_fight]

I useta download movies that I couldn't find and wanted to see, but then I got Netflix and they had a good selection, so I got to see lots of stuff that I couldn't rent at my local Rentotron. I never burned them to dvd though, b/c they were usually the type of movies that I just watched so I would know, like Cannibal Holocaust (somehow downloaded an uncut version).

the movies I buy I buy because I want to watch them, or because I just plain made me feel good to have them on the shelf. I'm not a collector though, I open them up and play em (same with toys). sometimes I can be a bit of a stickler about having the enclosed artwork, but not usually.

also, if I only half-ass want a movie, I'll buy it used. but I never buy used dvds of stuff that I feel I must have.

[urgeok]

i have a justification for burning (on a trial basis)

a movie is one of the only products you have to buy before you know if you'll enjoy it or not. (books are the other)

most other things you either hesr first (music on the radio) or can send back/get a refund if the product is bad (dinner at a restaurant, a faulty electronics purchase)

the movie industry has shifted from the theatre alone to equal parts theatre and rental/buy to own business.

when i go to a theatre i'm paying 30$ fot the tickets, and about $30 for the babysitter. 60$ for a potentially bad product. I cannot rely on reviews before i see it nor do i want the experience dulled by hearing too much about the movie before i go.

So i pay 60$ for a piece of shit and there isnt a damn thing i can do about it.

i'd rather burn a movie and watch it - if i like it - i'll buy it because i want the extras..etc..

i think that people who sell burned movies should have their asses kicked hard. it's not about profit or ripping people off - its about accountability ..

(one other exception - i think its fine for getting movies that are impossible to get anywhere else)

[joshaube]

"So i pay 60$ for a piece of shit and there isnt a damn thing i can do about it."

It's a little different here. My theatre gives refunds on tickets, depending on the situation. They're really quite nice, even if they don't get a lot of movies and often movies come here later then they should.

Tickets for me are 8$, while adults pay 10$. Lower then they used to be, since our taxes went down by a few percentage.

If you don't like a movie, and you leave at the beginning or half-way through, you can get your money back. I'm not sure about getting a refund at the end of the movie, since technically you saw the entire thing... and it would sort of be scamming the system. But in some cases, if you are disturbed, sickened, or affected by the film as a whole and it results in a bad experience, then you can easily get a refund.

I got a refund on Date Movie, since we left about 15 minutes before the end. It was shit.

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I download occasionally, for movies that are impossible to find or rent. Murder-set-pieces was one. Or movies that I am DYING to see and cannot wait an extra month for the DVD to hit store shelves. Brick was like this, and Hard Candy is another. But in most of these cases, I end up enjoying them and buying them once actually released.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by Miss Olivia
I burn.
Doobies.

Same.

[noctuary]

I am a complete pirate as far as most things go, but for movies, I always buy. It's the collector's compulsion. Having a hundred gigs worth of movies on your hard drive is not at all the same as having a hundred DVDs lined up on your shelf.

I do always rent before I buy though, otherwise I'd have gotten stuck with some shit.

[Despare]

Originally posted by urgeok
i have a justification for burning (on a trial basis)

a movie is one of the only products you have to buy before you know if you'll enjoy it or not. (books are the other)


At least the library is free and you can always go to Borders and read through the first few chapters of a book to get a feel for it. Movies are even worse than books in that respect. I burn/download for the same reasons, the trial basis thing. I often burn movies or cds and then buy them because I enjoyed them so much.

[CHRIS24]

Thats funny about the refund deal at the theatre. Damn that would be nice to have that out our huge ass cinema, but ya see i live in california and they like to rip people off either which way they can and for the rich people around here it doesnt matter to them but when I sit down to movie and I think its crap like hostel and go out to the front and I would have to argue with the ticket guy and it still wouldnt be resolved and I would be out 25 bucks. Now for the trial thing I tottally agree i downloaded hgouse of wax right after it came to theatre and good thing cause that movie sucked. But there are also compulsive burners out there who sit at home and thats all they do which is crazy.

[KRUGERKID13]

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TORRENT SITES YOU GUYS USE. Not a big fan of burning but some movie i just cant find and wouldnt mind seein. However i wont burn them

[kpropain]

Originally posted by Miss Olivia
I burn.
Doobies.

Ditto!!!

[CHRIS24]

BITCOMET

[ManchestrMorgue]

Just out of interest - those of you who download - what do you use? I mean, do you use P2P (bittorrent, limewire etc)? And are you concerned about getting busted filesharing?

I have always been afraid of using P2P for anything like this because you are so traceable. Anyone can see what you are doing. Has anyone been busted? What was the outcome?

Also, it seems that all of the cases that I have heard about have been with people filesharing - ie uploading and downloading (therefore, "distributing"). Has anyone gotten into any trouble for purely downloading?

The reason I am asking is that you hear a lot in the media, and I was just wondering what people's actual experience has been.

[Killemall]

I use giganews and find myself at alt.binaries.multimedia.horror alot :) no torrents for me.

[CHRIS24]

Downloads.com and download bit comet that has all 4 torrent programs

[urgeok]

i use a 3rd party news group access ...
i wouldnt use any method that would require me to upload anything.

thats how they find you ..

[Despare]

I use Ares but only upload public domain, anythig I dowload I move from the shared folder.

[crazy raplh]

i burn occacionaly

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Killemall
I use giganews and find myself at alt.binaries.multimedia.horror alot :) no torrents for me.


full movie dvd burns ?

[PR3SSUR3]

Plus, the problem with having a load of films on your computer means you can only watch them at your VDU.

What do you mean? Simply burn them onto disc!

Ha - but a popular process that should be so simple proves to be hair-grabbingly complex.

Codecs... converters... burners... it's all given me a right fucking headache. Every single AVI > DVD program I've used has either failed or simply stopped working after a few burns (and not demo versions).

Lately, a film I thought had successfully converted and burned turned out to play the full soundtrack, but the visuals stopped 5 minutes early. As if the sound was running at a quicker speed to the film (checked all settings were at default and in synch).

Are some AVI files known to cause more problems than others, or are they all inherently the same if they come in this format?

[joshaube]

For what I do download, I use underground scene torrent sites. Restricted sites that companies can't find. I'm thinking of switching to newsgroups. Anyone know of a good one? Giganews?

By the way, downloading doesn't restrict you at all. I have an s-video connection and a DVD player compatible with DivX/XviD.

I use my video card and S-Video in my room, I can watch downloaded files, play games, browse, etc on my TV screen (flatscreen) and things look pretty much good. Same as a TV broacast on a good channel like TMN.

For the DVD player (LDA-530), it plays everything I have thrown at it, save DTS or hi-res files, and everything looks perfect. Of course that Tv is not as big as my room, nor flatscreen. That might lend to additional detail showing up.

[CHRIS24]

I think the only way there going to find ya is if ya got a 100,000 downloaded torrents and ya havnt erased them off the harddrive

[Killemall]

Originally posted by urgeok
full movie dvd burns ? I wouldnt say there all full dvd burns..There are full and then theres just the movie and sometimes its a divx file ..It just depends on what the uploader did.I prefer just the movie as an avi file..My dsl isnt the fastest connection in the world.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Plus, the problem with having a load of films on your computer means you can only watch them at your VDU.

What do you mean? Simply burn them onto disc!

Ha - but a popular process that should be so simple proves to be hair-grabbingly complex.

Codecs... converters... burners... it's all given me a right fucking headache. Every single AVI > DVD program I've used has either failed or simply stopped working after a few burns (and not demo versions).

Lately, a film I thought had successfully converted and burned turned out to play the full soundtrack, but the visuals stopped 5 minutes early. As if the sound was running at a quicker speed to the film (checked all settings were at default and in synch).

Are some AVI files known to cause more problems than others, or are they all inherently the same if they come in this format?


shoot me an email ..

[PR3SSUR3]

Soon as I've gathered all my info together I will, if you know your shit about this sort of thing.

Sound-synching seems to be something of a problem in the few computer-coded movies I've come across.

:)

[joshaube]

Most .avi movies are DivX/Xvid. Install those, along with AAC and AC3 for sound and you should have all you need in that section. Or grab a pack like CCCP which installs all the codecs and settings you'll need (not dumb like the Kazaa pack and will NOT mess up your computer like others).

Use TMPGEnc Xpress to convert, and TMPGEnc Author to burn with menus and titles and whatever you want. Or use Nero to just get the movie.

With TMPGEnc you can select how much you want to fit on a single DVD-R and it compresses the quality fairly well to meet those needs.

Takes a while for conversion though. Byuing a 60$ CAN DVD player is a lot easier.

[The STE]

I burn and buy. I get movies off Netflix and burn them (even print up the cover and disc), but I'll buy a movie to replace a burned movie. I'm currently working on slowly replacing the burned DVDs with storebought ones, except the OOP ones (or maybe the REALLY bad ones)