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bwind22

06-15-2006, 01:49 AM

Wrestling is cool, but I never get to watch it. I used to be a big fan in the late 80s/early 90s but nowadays I don't have time to watch much. I just catch bits & pieces here & there.

Although.... We did just get a DVR box so maybe I should just start recording it and then I can watch it when thwe ol' lady isn't around, since she's the main reason I dont get to see it as it is.

The only thing is... It's kinda hard to get back in to when I barely recognize anyone on there nowadays. I'm always like "Who the hell is this dude?"

They need to bring back Papa Shango. Then I'd be all over it.

And now a lil something just to jumpstart the conversation, since I can't really talk about current events in the WWE....

My favorite 5 heels of all time....

Mr. Perfect, Curt Hennig
Million Dollar Man, Ted Dibiase
Rick Rude
Papa Shango
The Rock (in his prime)

Despare

06-15-2006, 07:00 PM

I like the fact that ECW is back but it just isn't the same... anyway, good stuff I really like wrestling.

The STE

06-15-2006, 07:08 PM

the ECW thing could've been great if they'd added one thing: The Network. If you watched ECW on TNN then you know what I mean. During that stupid-ass thing where the girl was stripping for no reason, just have Cyrus coming out saying "Excuse me! Excuse me!" before sending her to the back. Then maybe shilling some Sci-Fi original movies. Add some gimmicky wrestlers in place of the Dupps, put CM Punk in the Steve Corino role, you've got some wrestling gold goin'. As it stands, the only thing I really liked was The Zombie.

Bwind, they kindof have Papa Shango. They call him The Boogeyman now, though. I think he might be out with an injury at the moment, but if you get the Wrestlemania 22 DVD he has a match on that

AUSTIN316426808

06-15-2006, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by Despare
I like the fact that ECW is back but it just isn't the same...

The only thing I liked about it was the Sandman/Zombie match.

The STE

06-15-2006, 10:05 PM

according to PWI, there'll be a running gag of Sandman vs. weird Sci-Fi Channel gimmicks

AUSTIN316426808

06-15-2006, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by The STE
according to PWI, there'll be a running gag of Sandman vs. weird Sci-Fi Channel gimmicks

So is he done or is this a temp thing?

bwind22

06-15-2006, 11:20 PM

I saw a profile on The Boogeyman a couple months ago & had to laugh. His gimmick looks retarded & much less convincing than Pap Shango was for me when I was like 12. But I hear he's actually gettng over with the crowd pretty well.

I'll have to check out WM22 to see what he's all about.

AUSTIN316426808

06-16-2006, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by bwind22

I'll have to check out WM22 to see what he's all about.

He smashes clocks on his head, walks like he's having a seizure, eats worms and occasionally spits them on people and he's gotta lame finisher(if it's in fact his finisher at all, seen him to do a few times to get the pin so I'm guessing it is).

The STE

06-16-2006, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
So is he done or is this a temp thing?

I think the Zombie's done, unfortunately, but there'll probably be an Alien or a Grab-Oid or something next week

AUSTIN316426808

06-16-2006, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by The STE
I think the Zombie's done, unfortunately, but there'll probably be an Alien or a Grab-Oid or something next week

I meant is Sandman done wrestling any real matches or is the whole vs. gimmick thing just temporary.

The STE

06-16-2006, 10:51 AM

Well, I think the plan originally was for the old garde ECW wrestlers to be there to put over the new generation of wrestlers. But the whole thing has been such a debacle overall that I don't know what the deal is anymore

Despare

06-16-2006, 09:52 PM

I think the ECW could still turn out, it'll just take time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ostwkKbX-cM
Skip to the whole "I speak zombie" part, funny stuff there.
Anyway, Boogyman is kind of cool to see live.

The STE

07-05-2006, 10:41 AM

http://www.deliriouswrestling.com

awsm wrestler that started out in a local fed here in St. Louis. He does stuff in ROH and TNA and IWA-MS, too.

AUSTIN316426808

07-16-2006, 03:05 PM

I've heard that a punjabi prison match is justa casket match with a body bag rather than a casket. Any accuracy to that?

The STE

07-16-2006, 06:06 PM

I hear tell it's probably some form of cage match

Despare

07-18-2006, 07:18 AM

Kahli is a sloppy wrestler and a killer (read on his history, ass didn't even know how to powerbomb somebody). Hopefully this marks his end in the WWE. As far as the match I hear it's more like the ring will be surrounded by a cage with barbed wire. The two contestants will be able to use it as a weapon. There might be barbed wire on the floor so no one can escape, that way they'll have to stay in and fight to the "death". Supposedly weapons like a screwdriver and somebody said even mud... who knows, could be cool.

urgeok

07-18-2006, 07:44 AM

as much as i hate wrestling - i always grabbed the little wrestling toys whenever i saw them in my junk store.
I'm in the process of sorting out all the toys in the house and finally got all of them together ..
I was suprised to see that i have about 40 of them (maybe more) and some of them are pretty old..

i wonder if there is a market for these things

horrorobsessed

07-20-2006, 07:35 PM

okay, i've watched bits and pieces of wrestling matches and i gotta admit they're kinda cool. but i can't for the life of me bring myself to understand why someone would go into a business where they get the shit beat out of them for money. someone please explain this to me.

The STE

07-20-2006, 09:02 PM

same reason anybody else picks their career

AUSTIN316426808

07-20-2006, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by horrorobsessed
okay, i've watched bits and pieces of wrestling matches and i gotta admit they're kinda cool. but i can't for the life of me bring myself to understand why someone would go into a business where they get the shit beat out of them for money. someone please explain this to me.

You have to make money, why not do so by way of something you have talent and/or love for.

Freak

07-20-2006, 10:40 PM

I backyard wrestle about once every two weeks and I love every minute of it.I dont even get paid.There's just something about diving off a house through a table that just puts a smile on my face.

VampiricClown

07-30-2006, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
Tell me what you guys think

NOTE:Please don't come here and say wresteling sucks...PLEASE.

Well let's discuss.I think the DX reunion kicked ass tonight!

YEAH!!!:D

For someone who thinks wrestling doesn't suck, you don't seem to post here much....er....at all.

crazy raplh

07-31-2006, 10:44 PM

I loved pap shango I just bought him the other day and kamala as well, but yea I am glad DX is Back they need more members.

AUSTIN316426808

08-01-2006, 06:18 PM

Well they finally went back to the arena they should be in but of course as soon as a match gets good they fuck it up.

The STE

08-02-2006, 07:30 AM

hm? I don't recall CM Punk vs. Justin Credible getting fucked up. All I saw was Punk carrying Credible to a decent match

AUSTIN316426808

08-02-2006, 12:48 PM

Well not every match, just most of 'em.

The STE

08-02-2006, 08:26 PM

I'm tellin ya, if they give CM Punk half a chance he'll be the future of the company

AUSTIN316426808

08-02-2006, 09:19 PM

I never heard of him before last night, but he can wrestle, doesn't have a stupid gimmick and apparently I'm the only person that didn't know who he was. It'd be good for someone new to get a push.

By future of the company, you mean ECW or the whole thing?

AUSTIN316426808

08-04-2006, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808

By future of the company, you mean ECW or the whole thing?

I asked that because he doesn't have much size to him, but if Shawn Michaels can do it, why can't he.

Freak

08-07-2006, 01:48 AM

I just read that they signed Jeff Hardy back and The Boogeyman is coming to get ya.

Despare

08-07-2006, 08:17 AM

Yep, the Hardy Boyz will be back shortly...

The STE

08-07-2006, 10:10 AM

for now ECW, although if he were moved to Raw and put in the IC division...hmmm.....

Sick_As_Fuck

08-09-2006, 11:33 PM

CM Punk could definitely be the next Austin/Rock/HBK/HHH if pushed correctly. But if you follow backstage news then you know that a lot of the top brass, including Trips and Stephanie, don't see it that way. It's a damn shame, too.

AUSTIN316426808

08-11-2006, 04:49 PM

Those diva search segments are just brutally embarrassing to watch.

crippler666

08-19-2006, 04:23 PM

Prefer TNA to WWE / ECW, it is more for people who don't want to see the same 12 moves repeated every week. With the likes of AJ Styles,Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe (Umaga is such a crap rip off) and Sonjay Dutt, the wrestling is so different. 6 sided ring aswell, makes it faster than the standard 4 sided.

It is a real shame about ECW though, they are now on about phasing the originals out and new talent only. Not by story line either, VM feels that they don't fit in with his brand of ECW and should be dropped.

Oh and totally agree about the Diva Search, it is bad when at wrestlemania this year 3 minutes was cut out of one match for the DVD coz of sloppy wrestling, the match was Trish Stratus vs Mickie James. Women can wrestle, just leave them doing that.

The STE

08-25-2006, 10:11 PM

so WWE fired Kurt Angle. Probably for the best since he seems to have one foot in the grave already. This way he can take a lot of time off and get his shit in order.

AUSTIN316426808

08-25-2006, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by The STE
so WWE fired Kurt Angle. Probably for the best since he seems to have one foot in the grave already. This way he can take a lot of time off and get his shit in order.

Drugs?

I haven't been looking around sites lately.

Sick_As_Fuck

08-25-2006, 10:22 PM

Hopefully when he's fully recovered he can work some indies. Who wouldn't want to see Angle/Low Ki, Angle/Danielson, or Angle/Joe?

crippler666

08-26-2006, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
Hopefully when he's fully recovered he can work some indies. Who wouldn't want to see Angle/Low Ki, Angle/Danielson, or Angle/Joe?

I would like to see Angle in TNA or Ring of Honor. WWE claim he is injured, he was accused of sexual harrassment before and it makes me wonder with his "jump to ECW"?

crippler666

08-26-2006, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by crippler666
I would like to see Angle in TNA or Ring of Honor. WWE claim he is injured, but he was accused of sexual harrassment before in the WWE and it makes me wonder with his "jump to ECW"?

I should point out Randy Orton & Big Show was accused at the same time and wth woman left the WWE. Big Show took most of the blame, but Angle was involved.

The STE

08-26-2006, 11:07 AM

Angle was needing a really long vacation 3 years ago. His body is completely shot and he was suspended over a really bad addiction to painkillers. He's been one stiff bump away from being done for good for a while now. They had to fire him to give him some time off because he wouldn't have taken it on his own and if he kept going I wouldn't have been surprised if he died by the end of the year.

The STE

08-28-2006, 04:03 PM

Kurt Angle says he's done with wrestling _ for now

The Associated Press

PITTSBURGH - Former Olympic heavyweight wrestling champion Kurt Angle says is he leaving entertainment wrestling, even though he is not formally announcing his retirement.

Angle said he decided to stop wrestling for World Wrestling Entertainment Inc. after he injured his groin, tore an abdominal muscle and injured a hamstring during an Aug. 13 event in White Plains, N.Y.

The 37-year-old Angle, a former high school wrestling and football star at Mount Lebanon High School in the Pittsburgh area, has been a wrestler/entertainer for seven years for WWE. According to the company's Web site, Angle received an early release from his contract after he no longer wanted to take pain medication to compete.

Angle said he needs time to heal before he begins to think about wrestling again and the WWE told him he can return when he wants.

A two-time NCAA Division I wrestling champion at Clarion University in western Pennsylvania, Angle won the 220-pound championship at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta, defeating Iran's Abbas Jadidi for the gold medal despite competing with a badly injured neck.

Angle dropped to his knees on the mat and openly wept after being awarded the decision by the mat officials after he and Jadidi wrestled to a 1-1 draw during the eight-minute match.

After winning the gold medal, Angle left amateur wrestling and became a Pittsburgh TV sportscaster for a brief period, then became an entertainment wrestler in 1998.

August 28, 2006 3:51 PM
===

I seriously doubt, if not flat-out don't believe, that he "decided to quit"

Sick_As_Fuck

08-28-2006, 04:06 PM

He didn't quit. He wanted to go on but Vince wouldn't let him.

The STE

08-28-2006, 05:56 PM

exactly. I wasn't kidding when I said I wouldn't have been surprised if Angle had died by years end had he not gotten fired. I honestly believe Angle would've kept going on until he was dead. But I can't even begin to imagine the media shit-storm WWE would receive if Angle died just 10 years after he won the medal. That'd be worse than Eddie and Owen combined (not saying Angle himself is more important than them, I'm only talking about press coverage). WWE firing him was, sad to say, the best thing for all involved

Sick_As_Fuck

08-28-2006, 05:59 PM

Well there were those "death watch" rumors about Angle right after Eddie passed. Maybe they were true afterall :(

The STE

08-28-2006, 07:20 PM

I'd say Kurt's been on watch for a year or so

The STE

08-31-2006, 03:51 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/cheesala/shampamerjokegif3sw2.gif

I'd say that sums it up quite nicely

hitman3005

09-13-2006, 09:37 AM

STE that was great! Does sum it all up. Still, I will be at the Smackdown/ECW show here in Wichita, Ks Oct. 4th. Have to see my old ECW faves! Even thouhg it'd been seriously watered down.

The STE

09-13-2006, 08:56 PM

If you get a good enough seat, bring a sign that says "This Is Not a CM Punk Sign"

Freak

09-14-2006, 02:10 AM

So whats up with Smackdown are they not showing it on upn anymore?I turned on the tube last week and couldn't find it on any channel.What's the deal with that.

The STE

09-14-2006, 07:59 PM

WB and UPN merged into the CW, so your lineup might have changed

The STE

09-14-2006, 08:05 PM

Tired of WWE? Tired/never got into TNA? Want some of the best wrestling around today? www.rohwrestling.com. Minimal storylines, emphasis on matches, and the matches are damn good. I especially reccomend:
Best of CM Punk
Best of CM Punk vol. 2
Joe vs. Punk 2

and, while I haven't actually seen the shows yet, I've heard great things about these from reliable sources:
Joe vs. Kobashi
Supercard of Honor
Death Before Dishonor III
Better Than Our Best
Unforgettable

the_real_linda

09-18-2006, 01:08 PM

just wanted to say im so glad theres a wrestling thread her.....i was a huge fan as a child of wrestling tho doink the clown scared the hoo hars outa me, and i just got back into it over the last 6months.....and no way is it sad....have you seen cm punk! hmmmm delicious!

Roderick Usher

09-18-2006, 04:01 PM

whatever happened to Nocoli Volkov and the Iron Sheik?

The STE

09-20-2006, 07:00 PM

Originally posted by the_real_linda
just wanted to say im so glad theres a wrestling thread her.....i was a huge fan as a child of wrestling tho doink the clown scared the hoo hars outa me, and i just got back into it over the last 6months.....and no way is it sad....have you seen cm punk! hmmmm delicious!

I'd totally go gay for CM Punk

as for Iron Shiek (and speaking of gay), this is what happened to him:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9K-wEUCCvE0

The STE

09-21-2006, 09:36 PM

one reason why 99.9% of all wrestlers can't touch Jake Roberts on the mic
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0vpxeouoIiQ

hitman3005

09-23-2006, 10:33 PM

Oh man! I miss Jake. I wish some of todays wrestlers could be as good on the mic as he was. Hey, STE, i'm gonna take your advice and make that "This is not a C.M. Punk sign" sign. Watch for it on ECW on the 4th of Oct.!

The STE

09-23-2006, 10:57 PM

how close to the ring is your seat?

hitman3005

09-24-2006, 06:42 PM

Section 123, seat A. here's the chart. Hopefully it's on the side that will be viewable on T.V. shpuld be 1st seat next to section 121.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n166/hitman3005/KansasColiseumCenter_all.gif

The STE

09-24-2006, 06:50 PM

awsm. Hope Punk sees it

crippler666

09-25-2006, 08:03 AM

Kurt Angle has officially signed with TNA!!! They claim that he has been in training for around a month getting used to the ring and generally keeping himself in shape.

If this is true, then WWE's original stand point of injury would be a lie.

Now he has left the WWE who do you think will state the real reason first?

The STE

09-25-2006, 11:02 AM

this is a bad idea. Kurt was a (barely) walking bag of injuries, there's no way he's healed up enough yet. The only thing that's GOOD about this is that TNA's schedule is lighter. But it's still too much for Kurt right now

the_real_linda

09-25-2006, 11:09 AM

ill be looking out for the sign.....so your going to a televised show and not a house show im guessing? thats sooooo cool! say hi to cm punk for all of us!

crippler666

09-25-2006, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by The STE
this is a bad idea. Kurt was a (barely) walking bag of injuries, there's no way he's healed up enough yet. The only thing that's GOOD about this is that TNA's schedule is lighter. But it's still too much for Kurt right now

I agree its not so good if the injury is real, but I do wonder if it is.

Triple H had a knee injury, that required surgery. He was off for nearlly a year, could hardly walk for around 8 months. Yet he made Blade Trinity? Which he is in the Special Edition through out.

With special effects now adays they could easy make an authentic looking leg operation.

I think he had a slight injury, but not as bad as made out.

I read a report about Kurt stormed out of the main office in foul mood.

I think he was asking for a lighter schedule, but the WWE wouldn't give him the time off.

ECW came about and it worked for a while, but I think he saw it as a step backwards and his contract expired leaving him to sign a contract.

Normally it is 90 days before they can either sign a contract or officially join another company, Christian Cage could only do this after his contract ran out.

So it does look like Kurt was out of contract.

the_real_linda

09-25-2006, 11:39 AM

kayfabe....i think its called including false injuries to let them have time off or do other projects.....all part of the show

crippler666

09-25-2006, 11:44 AM

Yes but in Angle's case it wasn't anything to do with a story. The point I was making is that maybe they tried to cover up that Kurt Angle just walked out on contract negotiations with the WWE. Hoping he would return within a month or two?

The STE

09-25-2006, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by the_real_linda
kayfabe....i think its called including false injuries to let them have time off or do other projects.....all part of the show

kayfabe is one thing, but Angle's been going non-stop for years. He's scary to look at, his eyes are glazed, and most of his reported injuries haven't even been mentioned on TV. Angle shouldn't be wrestling. He should take a year off at least, if not just retire out-right. There's nothing kayfabe about that.

hitman3005

09-26-2006, 07:15 AM

Check out TNA's website. They signed my man Kurt Angle!

The STE

09-26-2006, 06:00 PM

that's what we've been talking about for 7 posts now

hitman3005

09-27-2006, 06:56 AM

Wow! My bad :D

the_real_linda

10-02-2006, 07:47 AM

edge or cena to win the cage match?????

hitman3005

10-02-2006, 02:28 PM

Damn! I want Edge to win...but i know it'll be Cena. :(

Despare

10-02-2006, 05:36 PM

I don't like Edge, I don't think it's because of the MH thing either I just really never marked for Edge. I always liked Christian more, hell even in the Brood, I liked Gangrel more. I'd like to see Shelton Benjamin learn to remember lines and get a push or even Carlito. Edge is good in the ring, done some great stuff, don't know why I'm not much of a fan.

The STE

10-02-2006, 09:11 PM

the Matt Hardy thing was the only time I didn't like Edge, and since Matt singed on with WWE and made an angle out of it, I stopped caring. Now I like Edge again

The STE

10-02-2006, 09:12 PM

btw, ECW is 3rd of October, unless you're going to a house show

hitman3005

10-03-2006, 08:09 PM

Damn WWE! Had tonight's ECW recorded for me and they show the Topeka Ks show instead of the Wichita show! I was in row "A" right where the ECW wrestlers walk out. BASTARDS! I'll post pix tomorrow when i get them developed. Mostly got ECW stars, but a few Smackdown guys. First match of the night was a dark match between Gymini & Kendrick + London. Gymini grabbed my beer off of the railing and moved it 5ft down the aisle, funny as hell. Then after the match London walked by and picked up my beer and acted liked he was gonna drink it. PERFECT SEATS! When Joey and Taz came out Joey reached for my beer like he was gonna drink it then smiled and walked off, i was marking out by now! olo Oh well, still had a great time!

Sorry, still a lil buzzed :P

I'll be back with pix tomorrow!

STE: Sorry I put the 4th. I meant the 3rd. Wonder why they showed the Topeka shiw? I read on the WWE website that ECW was added to Topeka Monday night. Damn them! Oh well, at least i may show up on SMACKDOWN!

hitman3005

10-04-2006, 08:32 AM

Let me try posting this pic. See if it come out HUGE! May need help in resizing it...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n166/hitman3005/Sabu2.jpg

hitman3005

10-04-2006, 08:34 AM

...a few more

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n166/hitman3005/Thorn.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n166/hitman3005/Punk.jpg

The STE

10-05-2006, 05:28 PM

so did CM Punk see your sign?

BTW, I wouldn't at all mind putting my penis in Ariel

Thomasgeorge

10-08-2006, 01:00 AM

sabu is the best ever

hitman3005

10-08-2006, 10:34 AM

Hey STE, didn't take the sign. It was a victim of excessive beer consumption! Got to the Coliseum, looked around the Element and said to the others..."um, dudes where's the signs?"
Punk didn't acknowledge any of the fans though. Just walked right past everyone.
My group should be very visible on T.V. I'm the guy in the Eddie Guerrero shirt with the glasses, and slobbering beer. haha