Remakes galore

[_____V_____]

Threads have been abuzz about remakes of old horror movies recently. I did some digging and found out these movies being remade :-

The Birds - (original 1963) Hitchcock movie, needs no intro

The Blob - (original 1958) 1st remake 1988.

The Bad Seed - (original 1956) first flick to have a child killer.

Black Christmas - (original 1974) believed to be the 1st slasher.

Black Sabbath - (original 1963) Mario Bava movie.

The Crazies - (original 1972) Romero movie. (Romero is executive producer this time around)

The Creature of the Black Lagoon - need I say?

Day of the Dead - (original 1985) Romero flick. (Romero aint involved with this one whatsoever though)

The Entity - (original 1981) being remade by "Ringu" fame Nakata.

Evil Dead - needs no intro, but this time no Ash.

The Hitcher - (original 1986) Rutger Hauer may have small role.

It's Alive - (original 1974) being remade by Larry Cohen again.

Near Dark - (original 1987) same story and script.

Night of the Living Dead 3D - needs no intro, remake of the 1968 classic in 3D.

The Omen - (original 1976 starred Gregory Peck) supposed to be released on June 6, 2006 (6/6/6)

Piranha - (original 1978) remake is made by Chuck Russell

Prom Night - (original 1980) supposedly different script this time.

Suspiria - (original 1977) remade by Dimension Films

The Wicker Man - (original 1973) Nicholas Cage stars in this one.

The Wolf Man - needs no intro. Being remade by Benecio Del Toro.


Plenty more will be up soon. For more news, watch this thread...

[urgeok]

Originally posted by _____V_____
Threads have been abuzz about remakes of old horror movies recently. I did some digging and found out these movies being remade :-
Black Christmas - (original 1974) believed to be the 1st slasher.



i'll say it before someone else does ..

its probably at least the second -
Bava's Bay of Blood (Twitch of the Death Nerve) beat it by a couple of years)


god knows there's probably something before that too..

[ghostgirl38]

[SIZE=3][FONT=courier new][COLOR=skyblue]O.K. I'll admit your list of remakes is a good one I for one am interested in the new Wolfman directed by Del Toro. I hope his brother will be in it.

[_____V_____]

Originally posted by urgeok
i'll say it before someone else does ..

its probably at least the second -
Bava's Bay of Blood (Twitch of the Death Nerve) beat it by a couple of years)


god knows there's probably something before that too..

my bad there...you are right urge, the first one (if we have to take all murder mysteries into the slasher genre) was in the 40s...Agatha Christie's "And Then There Were None"...

The first independent one was "Peeping Tom"(1960)...the year in which "Psycho" released too...then there was Herschel Gordon Lewis' "Blood Feast(1963)...

Bava's "Blood and Black Lace" came in 1964...and "Bay of Blood" in 1971...

I missed quite a few of em... :D

although its claimed that "Black Christmas" was the first horror film to use the "the calls are coming from inside the house" plotline...

[urgeok]

Originally posted by _____V_____
although its claimed that "Black Christmas" was the first horror film to use the "the calls are coming from inside the house" plotline...


screw it .. it's Canadian so it's the only one that matters :D

[_____V_____]

lol hey urge, whatcha doin for the summer? can you afford a trip to the west for the Fangoria show? It ll be worth it...

[urgeok]

Originally posted by _____V_____
lol hey urge, whatcha doin for the summer? can you afford a trip to the west for the Fangoria show? It ll be worth it...

i think that would be cool ... but my wife wouldnt even consider that one :)

i'm saving my money for the Rue Morgue Festival of Fear her ein Toronto in September...

its combined with The Space Channel, Anime, Comic, and Gaming convention so I'm bringing the family this year....

will shatner and leonard nimoy will be there ..
not every day you get to meet 2 of the most recognized figures in the world :)

[_____V_____]

Originally posted by urgeok
i'm saving my money for the Rue Morgue Festival of Fear her ein Toronto in September...

will shatner and leonard nimoy will be there ..
not every day you get to meet 2 of the most recognized figures in the world :)

Thats a good show developing. I may attend if I m not busy with other stuff at that time. It should be wacked and kickass!

I wanna meet Nimoy...he rocks! :D

[urgeok]

the dilemma is - what do i take to get signed ?
the movies, the books ?

[_____V_____]

take the books...you can always save the pages...

[Miss Olivia]

How many remakes of The Blob are they gonna do? The 1988 version scared the hell out of me when I was a kid....
The thought of remaking Suspiria makes me cringe because the whole appeal of the movie to me was its cinematography and soundtrack and the fact that my brain was telling me that this movie SHOULD be terrible but by some mysterious alchemy wasn't. If they remake it, it's going to lose that.
Evil Dead? Near Dark?
The freaking BIRDS???


No WAY.

[The_Return]

Man, thats some dated info. Suposedly Argento threatened to sue, the Suspiria remake has been cancelled for months. Im not sure if the reason is accurate, but Ive read on many sites that it has been cancelled.

[_____V_____]

Originally posted by The_Return
Man, thats some dated info. Suposedly Argento threatened to sue, the Suspiria remake has been cancelled for months. Im not sure if the reason is accurate, but Ive read on many sites that it has been cancelled.


yes "Suspiria" stands cancelled, and producer-director Michael Bay has dropped his intentions of remaking "The Birds"...

cheer up horror fans...:D

[Miss Olivia]

Thank ya Jaysus!!!!
*backflips through room*

[Sick_As_Fuck]

I have no problem at all with movies that are 25+ years old being remade, but when movies from the eighties are being remade and especially remakes are being remade it really makes me want to give up on the genre I once loved so much.

[ItsAlive75]

Being that it is my handle, I find it puzzling that Cohen would remake his own movie...

That aside, Near Dark will fail because its the same script, The Blob will fail because they won't understand the campiness factor and they'll try and make the blob look scary... The Hitcher might actually be good.

[Posher778]

why do people complain about fucking remakes so much... It isn't that big of a deal, just don't watch them...

[Sick_As_Fuck]

Originally posted by Posher778
why do people complain about fucking remakes so much... It isn't that big of a deal, just don't watch them...

I tried to make this same arguement awhile back, stating that bad sequels do a lot more damage to a movie's legacy than bad remakes, but the majority disagreed with me.

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
I tried to make this same arguement awhile back, stating that bad sequels do a lot more damage to a movie's legacy than bad remakes, but the majority disagreed with me.
id actually say bad remakes do more damage.

[urgeok]

the jury's out on this one ..

i dont think it matters because i dont have to see it.

but - i wonder if bad films (remakes or not) hurt the genre because they will eventually make the horror film unbankable


but then i think ... nahhhhhh ... some people - a lot of people - will pay to see anything and have no concept if the movie is good or not.


i think my conclusion is - fuck it - go ahead and remake them .. if they are bad or not the generate revenues and build interest in the genre.
for every 2 or 3 bad films one will be ok .. for every 5 or 6 one will be good ..

if the 80's non stop unorigional garbage slashers didnt kill the genre then a bunch of remakes wont.

[_____V_____]

i think my conclusion is - fuck it - go ahead and remake them .. if they are bad or not the generate revenues and build interest in the genre.

The problem lies in the difference...making a movie and making a GOOD movie...

Remakes can be fine, hell I loved the remake of Dawn of the Dead more than the original...thats the way how you remake a classic...

As long as remakes are made, there will always be an initial audience, maybe not much expectations but for the sheer curiosity value which it will generate...the sustenance comes from THAT difference I mentioned above...if its good, it ll remain in the memories "heck the remake of Dawn was on par with the original", but if its bad people will forget it and come out feeling they have been robbed...

[urgeok]

well, i no longer see a movie without listening to a little buzz and considering the source.

my friend sees them all at advance screeners and he's pretty much dead on in the way i see horror films - so i use him for an accurate barometer...

[ItsAlive75]

I wait to see what all the reviews on RottenTomatoes say, I usually go with the consensus to see what I wanna see.

[Sick_As_Fuck]

Fuck what the next man thinks of a movie. I prefer to judge for MYSELF.

but then i think ... nahhhhhh ... some people - a lot of people - will pay to see anything and have no concept if the movie is good or not.

And there you have it. Hollywood knows that teens/young adults will go and see whatever they throw at them. They could give two shits about us harcore fans. I wouldn't even mind, really, except for the fact that like you mentioned the bad-to-good ratio of horror movies these days is at best 5:1. That's pathetic.

[ItsAlive75]

Define a recent movie you would consider "made for hardcore fans".

Or do you think old horror movies were made with the intent of "being for hardcore fans"?

[Sick_As_Fuck]

Whether you liked it or not..."Hostel".

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
Whether you liked it or not..."Hostel".

Hmm.... OK, pretty good example.

[urgeok]

i said it a million times before .. the target audience - the people who actually go to films .. are kids.

appreciate the fact that when someone does make an r rated gorefest - they are not going to make much money.

not too many people can affoard to run a business where they lose money.
it's not about caring - its about business sense.
i dont have to like it - but it's reality.

to put it in perspective :

lets say you opened a video store. you only wanted to stock the stuff you like.
and then you realize that 99% of your customers (the population within range of your store) dont share your tastes.
Do you say fuck it and go out of business - because you care so much about the 1% who dig your stuff ? How does that help them ? ... because now they dont have anything at all to rent.

if you stay in business - catering to both the 1% and the 99% you'll stay in business and the 1% will have something to rent.
and maybe ... just maybe .. the popular culture will change down the road some day.

its better than nothing.

[_____V_____]

I agree that the first target audience today are kids...more specifically teens who have just started to dig their claws into the horror genre, and dont mind seeing some nudity and gore.

With CGI running rampant now, we get to see more of "artificial" images than original. Gone were the days when a movie like "Dead Alive" was supposedly using 5 buckets of fake blood per shot. (damn that was some movie!)

But then, that was the era of classics. Now...if they remade "Dead Alive" without the Jackson touch, and with CGI, I shudder to think what it would come out like...

A passable remake, perhaps?

[urgeok]

you have to understand in this case - what came 1st 'the chicken or the egg'

in this case..the egg ... the kids are the only ones who can afford to go to movies or even want to these days..
so the film industry panders to them.

the only exceptions are things like the da vinci code where there is so much pedestrian hype over this shit due to a combination of a poorly written 'commuter novel', a wishy washy director, and a highly bankable star.
add some chritianity conspiracy bullshit suggested to the press and you have it ..

the next Titanic. this is what the mass majority of adults is daring to risk their babysitting dollars on..

for adults - a movie is a 'big night out' .. not just something to do as an option to watching tv or hanging around the mall.


its just not worth a $100 night to see 'the beast that ate the babysitter' to most adults ..

[_____V_____]

Originally posted by urgeok
the kids are the only ones who can afford to go to movies or even want to these days..so the film industry panders to them.

the only exceptions are things like the da vinci code where there is so much pedestrian hype over this shit due to a combination of a poorly written 'commuter novel', a wishy washy director, and a highly bankable star.
add some chritianity conspiracy bullshit suggested to the press and you have it ..

the next Titanic. this is what the mass majority of adults is daring to risk their babysitting dollars on..

its just not worth a $100 night to see 'the beast that ate the babysitter' to most adults ..

thats the problem...a well-made "Beast that ate the Babysitter" will lose to a poorly-made "Da Vinci Code"...and thats largely cuz of the core audience for which the movies today are made for...

blah, if a movie sucks even Tom Hanks cant do shit bout it...but the target audience?

"Oh my Tom Hanks!!"

"Shit Tom Hanks rocks man!!"

"He's Mr.Hollywood dude, in every sense!"

(shaking head)...what-ever!

[Miss Olivia]

Hey...The Beast That Ate The Babysitter....catchy title....

That'll be the next Sci Fi Original Movie.