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The Mothman
05-08-2006, 08:09 AM
not a horror movie, i know, but it was definetly an intense film. Robert DeNiro was great. what did everyone who saw it think of it? the end scene was freaking rediculous btw.
tachii
05-08-2006, 12:32 PM
was one of my childhood favorites, that and raising cain
One of my favorite movies of all time.... That's right I said it. I loved this movie when I first saw it. It had me jumping at that one scene. You know what I am talking about! DeNiro is awesome in this movie. One sick mutha#$@!#.
Have you seen the original of Cape Fear? I think the remake did the original justice.
Nyarlathotep
05-08-2006, 01:11 PM
both were enjoyable
The Mothman
05-09-2006, 07:48 AM
i see BH14 even decided to change his avatar to de niro.
tachii
05-09-2006, 10:00 AM
still haven't seen the original, is it worth it
slasherman
05-09-2006, 02:21 PM
..not seen the orginal...šlike the remake alot....underrated by many critics as an bad remake....
kung-fu-jesus
05-11-2006, 06:36 AM
bad ass film( original too) de niro was the shit, tie for best role with heat, taxi cab, and goodfellas.
although he was terrible as the frankenstein monster.
The Mothman
05-11-2006, 07:45 AM
I didnt really understand Heat that much..the entire movie felt like it was a bunch of scenes just put together that didnt have to do with eachother.
Festered
10-26-2008, 09:29 AM
Pretty much the last time DeNiro was good in anything IMO. Kind of a last hurrah to all those urban psycho parts.
But I thought this was better than the original. Scorcese kept a much better pace on the film, and Nolte, Lange and Lewis were a much more sympathetic family than the original one had. And a nice bit by Joe Don Baker as a good ol' boy PI, and cameos by some of the originals- Mitchum, Peck and Balsam- gave it a little fun to break up the intensity. The best part is that Scorcese used the original Bernard Herrmann score, and had Saul Bass create the title credits.
alkytrio666
10-26-2008, 11:10 AM
The original is better (as is Robert Mitchum, concordingly) but Scorsese's remake is almost right on par.
monster123
10-26-2008, 12:21 PM
I liked the De Niro one i thought he played a amazing psycho, he's one of my favorite actors of all time. This movie was scary because it could happen.
novakru
10-26-2008, 04:26 PM
I agree with what the guy from 2006 said, 'It did the original justice.'
it also IMHO , surpassed it .
neverending
10-26-2008, 04:31 PM
The remake is fine, but doesn't touch the original, IMO.
Festered
10-26-2008, 07:18 PM
The remake is fine, but doesn't touch the original, IMO.
It(the original) always got middle of the road reviews, and I thought it was a prime candidate for a remake. The music and Mitchum(who I thought was just doing a continuation of his character in Night of the Hunter) were the high points for me.
neverending
10-26-2008, 08:14 PM
I don't consider anything a prime candidate for a remake.
neverending
10-26-2008, 08:23 PM
[In April 2007, Newsweek selected Robert Mitchum's character as one of the ten best villains in cinema history. Cape Fear was also #36 on Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments for its famous scene where Max Cady attacks Sam's family.
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Fear_(1962_film)"
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alkytrio666
10-26-2008, 08:36 PM
It(the original) always got middle of the road reviews, and I thought it was a prime candidate for a remake. The music and Mitchum(who I thought was just doing a continuation of his character in Night of the Hunter) were the high points for me.
Huh?
Cape Fear (1962): http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1003492-cape_fear/
Vs.
Cape Fear (1991): http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1037581-cape_fear/
neverending
10-26-2008, 08:50 PM
I believe he's speaking of reviews contemporary with the film's release.
Ferox13
10-27-2008, 02:38 AM
Wasn't mad about the remake but the original is one of my fave films of all time. Max's story of what he did to his wife is really chilling. I think Michum overall did a better job.
I did like the look of the remake where it looked a bit cartoony or hyper real (like the scene in the cinema or the fireworks part).
Deniros version of character seems to be a mix of Michum's characters from cape fear and Night of the Hunter (bible quoting and tattooed)
Festered
10-27-2008, 02:52 AM
"Cape Fear was also #36 on Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments for its famous scene where Max Cady attacks Sam's family."
I don't know how seriously I'd take that. If Bravo has airing rights to it, it will be on their list of top 100. I'm sure a lot of Bond movies are on Superstation's critical best list.
Huh?
Cape Fear (1962): http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1003492-cape_fear/
Vs.
Cape Fear (1991): http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1037581-cape_fear/
It appears a lot more critics reviewed or commented on the 91 version, which probably led to the lower rating. The only major reviewer on that list, Vincent Canby, gave it a good review. Most reviews I read(prior to the remake) of the original were pretty meh. It didn't help much that the original came out on the heels of Psycho, and was looked upon as another Hitch clone. And coincidently, the remake suffered the same fate, going up against the showier Silence of the Lambs in the Oscar race. If it had been released any other year, it would have fared better, critically.
I don't consider anything a prime candidate for a remake.
A good portion of the films that came from Hammer's golden era(1957-65) were remakes, and I think some easily surpassed the originals- most notably Horror of Dracula. Browning's version is creaky and looks very much like the stage play it's derived from. Curse and Revenge of Frankenstein are much more animated(although the monster make-up was bad) versions too, and hold their own with the original.
I see a lot of old films that had great premises, but were lacking in something- production values, good casts, strong editing, etc. Doesn't make them bad films, just films that could stand to be improved. I'm not for remakes either, if they involve classics(or near classics) like that Psycho garbage. Personally, I'm not looking forward to the Taking of Pelham 123 remake. Totally unnecessary. But a remake in the right hands is a different story. Scorsese has a better appreciation and knowledge of film, than the average studio hack trying to cash in on a film title. If CF had been remade by anyone else, it would have been National Lampoon's Cape Fear.
The more recent TCM(1st) and Dawn of the Dead remakes were good IMO. They were very close in spirit, to the orig. and gave the viewer an idea of what Hooper or Romero might have been able to do, had they the budgets and current technology. Were they as raw as the original. No, but in today's censorial atmosphere, you couldn't make either of them as intense as the orig. And both films concentrated on characters rather than FX, which I appreciated.
Hitchcock remade his own Man Who Knew Too Much, and I think both films are great. They both have their strong and weak points, but, ultimately are both enjoyable films. And let's face it, most old films will get remade eventually, because Hwood isn't exactly known for charting new waters. When they do get remade, hopefully it will be by someone who respects the material.
Even Eric Clapton remade Layla.
neverending
10-27-2008, 05:16 AM
I'm well aware Hollywood is intent on remaking every film ever made. Doesn't mean I like them.
Horror of Dracula isn't a remake of Browning's Dracula. Sangster went back to the book with that and produced an original vision of the story.
The Mothman
10-27-2008, 09:27 AM
Huh?
Cape Fear (1962): http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1003492-cape_fear/
Vs.
Cape Fear (1991): http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1037581-cape_fear/
you have to take into account how the rotten tomatoes rating system works, its not like most.
I have no comment on which is better, i haven't seen the original yet.
Nella
10-27-2008, 09:36 AM
I didn't see the original but I loved the remake.
Ferox13
10-28-2008, 04:11 AM
A good portion of the films that came from Hammer's golden era(1957-65) were remakes, and I think some easily surpassed the originals- most notably Horror of Dracula. Browning's version is creaky and looks very much like the stage play it's derived from. Curse and Revenge of Frankenstein are much more animated(although the monster make-up was bad) versions too, and hold their own with the original.
As mentioned previously these weren't remakes but other adaptations of Literary Sources.
Festered
10-28-2008, 06:47 AM
As mentioned previously these weren't remakes but other adaptations of Literary Sources.
I think the general public would regard them as remakes, because the characters in the early 30s versions weren't featured again, as the main characters based on the novels, until Hammer came along. I don't think you could regard Sons of, Daughters of and Abbott and Costello meets as originating from a literary source.
neverending
10-28-2008, 07:21 AM
It wouldn't make them right, however.
Festered
10-28-2008, 09:15 AM
It wouldn't make them right, however.
I guess I wont bring up the subject of sequels, then. :(
Ferox13
10-28-2008, 10:50 AM
I don't think you could regard Sons of, Daughters of and Abbott and Costello meets as originating from a literary source
More they were continuating of the Universal Serials