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Dante'sInferno
05-04-2006, 01:26 AM
Well recent event's have led me to believe that we should bring back,the abillity to flame new member's.Now...All the veteran members(myself) Got flamed on my first arival.Now everything seems a bit boring doesnt it?Also its a right of passage.They surrvie the flame,They get to post.They dont,ah well.Well just take into consideration that we need to have the privelgae of flaming noobs again.(Sorry for any tyo error's)
bwind22
05-04-2006, 01:37 AM
This fuckin idiot Wytch that showed up tonight makes a strong arguement in your favor.
I'm with ya. But I'm more into flaming stupidity than just newbies in general. Although posting a "Hi I'm a big horror fan and happy to be here" thread in the new members section does qualify as stupidity worthy of flames.
Dante'sInferno
05-04-2006, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by bwind22
This fuckin idiot Wytch that showed up tonight makes a strong arguement in your favor.
I'm with ya. But I'm more into flaming stupidity than just newbies in general. Although posting a "Hi I'm a big horror fan and happy to be here" thread in the new members section does qualify as stupiidy worthy of flames. Agreed.
stubbornforgey
05-04-2006, 01:46 AM
I agree.
why are we not allowed to give back as much as it is given..but only to those that
start it.
We have been real good momma's n poppa's..
'stubborn pants like a fool till the drool drops to the floor'
its a colour thing aint it ??
Haunted
05-04-2006, 03:14 AM
I haven't posted in the poll yet, because I'm not sure how I feel about the issue. I'm wondering what you guys would define as an acceptable post in the new members section, because just randomly going in there and talking trash to all and sundry is ridiculous.
I agree with Bwind that flaming stupidity is a worthwhile cause. I think mods can come down too hard on folks who are just standing up for themselves and the forum. This is our forum too, and I don't think that we should have to stand by and let all and sundry run amok all over us. It kind of irks me a little that we can't give a resounding "fuck you" to someone who's flaming our forum, and that we have to place polite nice-nice. I think that's ridiculous.
I mean, fighting amongst ourselves is one thing; it sets a really bad precedent. However, fighting off these jerks long enough so that someone with any amount of authority comes in and fixes the situation is an entirely different thing. It's not even in the same ball park. I'll tell you something else too, it's standard protocol on any other forum I've been to.
The Flayed One
05-04-2006, 03:31 AM
I voted yes, and am upset that I came along too late to get this rite of passage. It's like getting paddled as a Freshman, ala Dazed and Confused. It sucks at the time, but then the fact that you get to do it makes it all worth while.
no mulier
05-04-2006, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
Well recent event's have led me to believe that we should bring back,the abillity to flame new member's.Now...All the veteran members(myself) Got flamed on my first arival.Now everything seems a bit boring doesnt it?Also its a right of passage.They surrvie the flame,They get to post.They dont,ah well.Well just take into consideration that we need to have the privelgae of flaming noobs again.(Sorry for any tyo error's)
If primarily, your motivation for flaming has a great deal to do with relieving your boredom, my vote would be an unequivocal NO. Surely you have better things to do than scouring the forums for offensive newbies in order to amuse yourself?
As a rite of passage, that's just like saying, "You've got to please us old-timers before we'll accept you as a bonafide member." The concept would be far better served by encouraging members to participate and contribute their opinions, making for stimulating and informative forum discussions that benefit this board and all its members. A newcomer would be more likely to join such a discussion and would likely click off to the next horror forum, because this one has nothing but bickering. But stimulating conversation is not always the case, is it?
All reactionary voting aside, who cares?
stubbornforgey
05-04-2006, 03:39 AM
But sister boo..
fighting amongst ourselves is different..
you see ..we are like siblings..none of us are right (cept me..of course) but are too damned stubborn to admit it.
fighting with flamers is a whole different ballgame..they push ..we should be allowed to push back.
Actually ..after reading some of wytches postings..em gettin kinda convinced that the 2 nicks are none other than the same person.
Haunted
05-04-2006, 03:55 AM
Oops... Heh....That was the point I was trying to make. I do think that we should be able to kick the ass of any troll, as they are called, that dares to defile our forum with their bullshit. I don't think that we should have to have rules against that. What I meant to say was that I can deal with moderators digging in on us fighting amongst ourselves when we start getting out of control. However, it irks me when some of them (because not all of them are like this) start getting on cases about holding our own against people coming in and flaming our forum. That isn't fair. No other forums have to put up with that. Also, if I'm not mistaken we are in a democratic style forum, not a dictatorship.
Goddess bless Rayne, she's not about to let shit get out of hand, she does her job well, she knows what she's doing, she's there when you need her, and she never shoves her position in your face. She's the exemplary moderator.
Now where's zwoti, because he's reasonable too...?
The_Return
05-04-2006, 04:01 AM
I voted no. There is no need to attack someone simply for being a "n00b", it's just stupid and immature. I relaize that Im not always the most mature person either, but I try. Reinstating new member flaming is just a stupid idea, and one that I gaurntee you will not be accepted by the mods no matter how many votes this thread gets.
As for flaming trolls, I would vote no as well. What's the point in sinking to their level? Ive learned from our recent troll(s) thats it's better to just stay out of it and wait for 'em to get banned, hence why I deleted my posts against them. Once again, it's just immature and makes us look as bad as them.
i voted no - but i would say that people should be able to defend themselves - if someone starts talking smack to me i'm going to let them have a piece of my monkey mind
the problem i had with flaming noobs was it was automatic, repetitive, and, largely, unfunny... the typical was "hi, i'm johnny and i like horror" followed by 80 responses of "STFU Noob" and "Your mother sucks c**ks in hell" etc. what had poor little johnny done to deserve the abuse and why is an endless stream of STFU supposed to be witty.
so, in closing, insults that are appropriate, justified and, most importantly, FUNNY are cool in my book - mindless flaming of noobs is not
bwind22
05-04-2006, 04:59 AM
I think we should be able to say whatever we want. If I walked up to Wytch on the street and called him a fucking retarded fagget that likes to get buttfucked by his dad in between sessions of blowing his 2 little brothers, there would not be a mod to run up and tell me I can't say that. Freedom of speech means just what it sounds like it means. If I said that to someone on the street, they couldnt ban me, they would be on their own to retort, ignore me, punch me, etc... but the fact remains they'd be forced to deal with it themselves, without anyone stepping in and wagging a finger at them.
How about making the rule that flaming is allowed if it's warranted? I'm sorry mods, but this wytch retard deserves to be flamed when he sits on here all night and writes 1 word posts in every single forum. He's obviously not here for any reason except to try and fuck with people so why shouldn't be able to tell him to fuck off?
Or you can just make me a mod too since I'm online overnight when most of the mods are nowhere to be seen and that's when most of the problems seem to occur... I'd be an exemplary moderator too just like BR! :D (*Whispers to all non-mods* Psst. I can be bought.) ;)
Originally posted by bwind22
called him a fucking retarded fagget that likes to get buttfucked by his dad in between sessions of blowing his 2 little brothers,
and we'd say, what do you call yourselves and they'd say . . .
THE ARISTOCRATS
Haunted
05-04-2006, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by The_Return
I voted no. There is no need to attack someone simply for being a "n00b", it's just stupid and immature. I relaize that Im not always the most mature person either, but I try. Reinstating new member flaming is just a stupid idea, and one that I gaurntee you will not be accepted by the mods no matter how many votes this thread gets.
As for flaming trolls, I would vote no as well. What's the point in sinking to their level? Ive learned from our recent troll(s) thats it's better to just stay out of it and wait for 'em to get banned, hence why I deleted my posts against them. Once again, it's just immature and makes us look as bad as them.
Return, I totally understand where you're coming from with your last comments, and you're probably right. The point is, though, you did get angry and you did reply. So maybe instead of arguing, as you suggested we not do, we should just post one reply expressing our displeasure at the person who is causing problems We could just have that one moment to have our say, and get it off of our chest. That one post should suffice, and therefore, there's no need to keep arguing with some jerk. After that one reply, we can then ignore them All we have to do is keep the anger in check.
filmmaker2
05-04-2006, 05:46 AM
Nah. there's no need for it.
Despare
05-04-2006, 05:52 AM
Only if there was a forum for it.
pinkfloyd45769
05-04-2006, 05:56 AM
I'm not sure what to really say on this. I think if we tell every new member to fuck off and die we will be the only members on this site for as long as it remains. To say that if someone can handle a noob bashing they will stay, if not they will leave is kinda crazy. I think most new members that plan on sticking around and not being a total jerk do not deserve being told to fuck off. There has been a few i would love to tell to go away but all in all thats not my decision. The truth is no matter what the outcome of this poll the mods get and will have the final say...i'm guessing that will be NO! I really don't give a shit either way, i'm not really the kind of person that will participate in noob bashing.
To blindly flame a noob-----NO....its immature and counterproductive. Not everybody is hardened to forums and we could lose a potentially good poster. Sure...it can be humorous, but overall makes us look like bullys.....and we all know thats not the case.....for the most part.
As far as disruptive posters i.e. Darth Bane and the like....i leave you with a quote i found.
Choice of attention - to pay attention to this and ignore that - is to the inner life what choice of action is to the outer. In both cases, a man is responsible for his choice and must accept the consequences, whatever they may be.
Originally posted by pinkfloyd45769
i'm not really the kind of person that will participate in noob bashing.
don't believe her - she bashes me all the time
*sob*
*sob*
bwind22
05-04-2006, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by newb
To blindly flame a noob-----NO....its immature and counterproductive. Not everybody is hardened to forums and we could lose a potentially good poster. Sure...it can be humorous, but overall makes us look like bullys.....and we all know thats not the case.....for the most part.
As far as disruptive posters i.e. Darth Bane and the like....i leave you with a quote i found.
Choice of attention - to pay attention to this and ignore that - is to the inner life what choice of action is to the outer. In both cases, a man is responsible for his choice and must accept the consequences, whatever they may be.
So lemme see if I'm reading ya right....
You think that while 'flaming' should remain officially banned, the mods should turn a blind eye when the person being flamed is someone that deserves it? (Such as darthbane, wytch, and the other obvious trolls that show up from time to time.)
Seems fair enough to me, but is that what you were saying?
Originally posted by bwind22
So lemme see if I'm reading ya right....
You think that while 'flaming' should remain officially banned, the mods should turn a blind eye when the person being flamed is someone that deserves it? (Such as darthbane, wytch, and the other obvious trolls that show up from time to time.)
Seems fair enough to me, but is that what you were saying?
If a darthbane or his type comes into our neighborhood and starts to shit on our lawn than yes....they should be fair game untill thier imminent banning. If that is what you choose.I personally would just totally ignore them.
mystical88
05-04-2006, 08:29 AM
i agree with the return only because i'm a "noobie" hahahahahaha:D :cool: :p :)
Dante'sInferno
05-04-2006, 08:57 AM
Bah...Ahh, well.Can we atleast flame the people who deserve it then?(Before they get banned?)
Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
Bah...Ahh, well.Can we atleast flame the people who deserve it then?(Before they get banned?)
i think it should be like that shirley jackson story the lottery where we randomly pick a member each month to be the recipient of all flames and then just unload on the mercilessly for 4 weeks. . .
(oh, and since its my idea that makes me eternally exempt) - so let the lottery begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The_Return
05-04-2006, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Zero
i think it should be like that shirley jackson story the lottery where we randomly pick a member each month to be the recipient of all flames and then just unload on the mercilessly for 4 weeks. . .
(oh, and since its my idea that makes me eternally exempt) - so let the lottery begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We read that story in English class last semester, I really enjoyed it. The expession on a few faces in the room was priceless once they finally figured out what was going on:p
pinkfloyd45769
05-04-2006, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Zero
don't believe her - she bashes me all the time
*sob*
*sob* Yeah, well...there are exceptions to every rule! :D
Originally posted by pinkfloyd45769
Yeah, well...there are exceptions to every rule! :D
its ok - you know i love it
cheebacheeba
05-04-2006, 10:33 AM
I know I'm probably the last person that should be saying this...but I don't think there's thst much of a point engaging these people. You say your part, they say theirs...etc...etc...etc, it's not like one party can ever really convince the other they're in the wrong. (Although I will interrupt the post to say I think it's particularly sad when someone asks for peoples opinions or impressions of something specifically, THEN says they're wrong the moment they hear something they don't agree with)
Besides, I think you'll find if there's cause...and if you really wanna rip into one of these people, you could pretty much just do it. The mods here generally uphold the "rule", but aren't complete pricks about it, of all people I should know.
The rules are (IMO) mainly containment based, there to prevent the whole forum being engulfed in something, and overall in place to serve the members more than the stupid shitd that come here to attack the place.
Nyarlathotep
05-04-2006, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
Bah...Ahh, well.Can we atleast flame the people who deserve it then?(Before they get banned?)
and who decides if they deserve it?
the only reason it happens is for attention, ignore them and they soon get bored
Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
and who decides if they deserve it?
the only reason it happens is for attention, ignore them and they soon get bored
not always . . . i'm still here aren't i!!!
:D
Nyarlathotep
05-04-2006, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Zero
not always . . . i'm still here aren't i!!!
:D
[/ignore]
who said that :eek:
[ignore]
bloodrayne
05-04-2006, 11:56 AM
A few good points (in MY opinion) :
Originally posted by Haunted
I'm wondering what you guys would define as an acceptable post in the new members section, because just randomly going in there and talking trash to all and sundry is ridiculous.
Originally posted by no mulier
If primarily, your motivation for flaming has a great deal to do with relieving your boredom, my vote would be an unequivocal NO. Surely you have better things to do than scouring the forums for offensive newbies in order to amuse yourself?
The concept would be far better served by encouraging members to participate and contribute their opinions, making for stimulating and informative forum discussions that benefit this board and all its members. A newcomer would be more likely to join such a discussion and would likely click off to the next horror forum, because this one has nothing but bickering.
Originally posted by The_Return
There is no need to attack someone simply for being a "n00b", it's just stupid and immature.
As for flaming trolls, I would vote no as well. What's the point in sinking to their level? Ive learned from our recent troll(s) thats it's better to just stay out of it and wait for 'em to get banned, hence why I deleted my posts against them. Once again, it's just immature and makes us look as bad as them.
Originally posted by Zero
the problem i had with flaming noobs was it was automatic, repetitive, and, largely, unfunny... the typical was "hi, i'm johnny and i like horror" followed by 80 responses of "STFU Noob" and "Your mother sucks c**ks in hell" etc.
Originally posted by bwind22
He's obviously not here for any reason except to try and fuck with people so why shouldn't be able to tell him to fuck off?I don't have any problem with that...But, I'm only one person, and not the only mod here...None of us have 'ultimate authority', which is definitely a GOOD thing......But...What's the point really?...If it truly is their sole purpose to start shit as soon as they join, and contribute nothing to this forum, they're just going to be banned and have their posts removed anyway...
Originally posted by Haunted
So maybe instead of arguing, as you suggested we not do, we should just post one reply expressing our displeasure at the person who is causing problems We could just have that one moment to have our say, and get it off of our chest. That one post should suffice, and therefore, there's no need to keep arguing with some jerk. After that one reply, we can then ignore them All we have to do is keep the anger in check.
Originally posted by filmmaker2
there's no need for it.
Originally posted by pinkfloyd45769
I think if we tell every new member to fuck off and die we will be the only members on this site for as long as it remains.
I think most new members that plan on sticking around and not being a total jerk do not deserve being told to fuck off.
Originally posted by newb
To blindly flame a noob-----NO....its immature and counterproductive. Not everybody is hardened to forums and we could lose a potentially good poster. Sure...it can be humorous, but overall makes us look like bullys.....and we all know thats not the case.....for the most part.
As far as disruptive posters i.e. Darth Bane and the like....i leave you with a quote i found.
Choice of attention - to pay attention to this and ignore that - is to the inner life what choice of action is to the outer. In both cases, a man is responsible for his choice and must accept the consequences, whatever they may be.
Originally posted by newb
If a darthbane or his type comes into our neighborhood and starts to shit on our lawn than yes....they should be fair game untill thier imminent banning. If that is what you choose.I personally would just totally ignore them.
Originally posted by cheebacheeba
I don't think there's thst much of a point engaging these people. You say your part, they say theirs...etc...etc...etc, it's not like one party can ever really convince the other they're in the wrong. (Although I will interrupt the post to say I think it's particularly sad when someone asks for peoples opinions or impressions of something specifically, THEN says they're wrong the moment they hear something they don't agree with)
Besides, I think you'll find if there's cause...and if you really wanna rip into one of these people, you could pretty much just do it. The mods here generally uphold the "rule", but aren't complete pricks about it, of all people I should know.
The rules are (IMO) mainly containment based, there to prevent the whole forum being engulfed in something, and overall in place to serve the members more than the stupid shitd that come here to attack the place.
Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
and who decides if they deserve it?
the only reason it happens is for attention, ignore them and they soon get bored
These opinions mirror my own :cool:
Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
[/ignore]
who said that :eek:
[ignore]
LMAO
Invisible Monkeys. . . could be the sequel to Snakes on a Plane
filmmaker2
05-04-2006, 12:09 PM
Tree Monkeys! The motion picture
Originally posted by filmmaker2
Tree Monkeys! The motion picture
In TECHNICOLOR by PANAVISION!!
Nyarlathotep
05-04-2006, 12:15 PM
you could come over to the dark side
http://users.wpi.edu/~sfs/tshirtideas/monkey_back.PNG
I think he should stick to SC-FI.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/img_poster_robot_monkeys.jpg
Dante'sInferno
05-04-2006, 12:27 PM
Okay,then can someone delete this thread?Since it's poitnless now.
The_Return
05-04-2006, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by newb
I think he should stick to SC-FI.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/img_poster_robot_monkeys.jpg
Good plan.
http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif
lovecraft
05-04-2006, 12:39 PM
I think bashing newbies is a bad idea. If I was bashed, I wouldn't have stuck around. I know I don't post as much as other people, but I enjoy some of the threads people start. But to be bashed because I'm new? Not an attractive idea to get people to stick around. And what is "bashing"? Is it cursing someone out? I'll take it to mean that for now.
I don't curse at people. Well, I try not to anyway. Treat others as you would be treated and all that. I would never, ever curse at you or call you stupid for your opinion, and I expect the same treatment.
To make an analogy that someone already used:
If I was on the street and someone cursed me out for an opinion or comment I had; I would leave. Same here. A heated debate is one thing, but cursing someone is another, in my opinion.
Now, I know some people have no problem giving it or taking it and that is fine. For me life is rough enough as it is. I don't need people giving me a hard time at a place I enjoy spending my time.
I like it here. It's an interesting place. But if i had to put up with a lot of crap, I would leave.
Thanks for reading My Humble Opinion:)
Originally posted by newb
I think he should stick to SC-FI.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/img_poster_robot_monkeys.jpg
love the ideas - i'll call my agent -
here's my vision of my big feature debut:
Yellow Jacket
05-04-2006, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by newb
I think he should stick to SC-FI.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/img_poster_robot_monkeys.jpg
I found Zero's co-stat for Robot Pirate Monkeys:
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/walt_disney/aladdin/frank_welker/aladdin2.jpg
stubbornforgey
05-04-2006, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Zero
not always . . . i'm still here aren't i!!!
:D
hahahahahahahaha!!
thats cos we have one of them collars that zap you should you try and walk 50 yards
out of the forum.
What pisses me off is how the flamers are able to reply in so many threads with the same crap before being banned..then are able to come back under another assumed nick.
I know that where em a mod..we not only ban the nick..we ban the ip as well.
We never let it get as far as the 'fuck yo' mama' part.
But then again..mods are only given a certain amount of power.
But if majority vote no then i s'pose
em one of the 'yes'voters who will refrain from responding..unless of course if its warranted.
chainleen
05-04-2006, 03:02 PM
I was actually expecting more flamage, but I'm glad I didn't, but I don't think I started off by insulting people...at least not intentionally.
If I had been flamed I would have said fuck it and been gone after 8 posts. However, I came looking for a forum that had a lot to do with horror movies and so far this forum has a great balance of horror talk and general stuff that makes it appealing to me. And you all seem like interesting people, that's hard to figure out if all we get right off the bat is 'stfu rookie'.
But there are some people that are definately asking for it.
Dante'sInferno
05-04-2006, 03:59 PM
LIKE ME!
Do i deserve to be flamed for starting this topic?
YEAH!!!!
The Mothman
05-04-2006, 04:36 PM
I didnt even intoduce myself when i came here. i just posted a topic in the wrong forum....flamed anyway.
stubbornforgey
05-04-2006, 05:17 PM
I think theres a missed point here.
This isn't al about flaming new members
off the bat.
We are talking members who instantly come in and start trouble..
should we be allowed to retaliate and not get 'shot down' so to speak.
I think 'personally' if a new member gets flamed upon entering for making a simple mistake..then a retort is forthcoming as well.
'Sigh'..this topic is getting boring now..''
'ooh look a shiny object'
Posher778
05-04-2006, 05:54 PM
I don't care either way, but i'm just fed up with the amount of noobs lately that join and ruin everything just because... there's no reason. Drives me crazy.
ItsAlive75
05-05-2006, 07:04 AM
I'd vote YES but the mods aint funna let us, so it should be a dead issue.
...but I'm always down with fighting.
MisterSadistro
05-05-2006, 07:37 AM
I just want to humiliate spammers :D
CK
bloodrayne
05-05-2006, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by stubbornforgey
I know that where em a mod..we not only ban the nick..we ban the ip as well. Trust me...I sincerely wish we could...That would help immensely