Silent Hill

[swiftdeath]

Well, I suppose it was alright. I was disappointed by the storyline, but the monsters were much better than I anticipated. The pyramid head guys looked really awesome, I just wish I could have seen a little more of them then the three times that they appeared. The end was sort of odd, but I won't state too much about it for those who have yet to see this movie. I doubt I'll buy it when it comes out because the only reason I'd watch it would be too see all the monsters again. Any other thoughts from those who have seen it?

[Posher778]

You could still talk about this on the other thread. I guess it is ok to mnake a new thread since it is no longer upcoming, but still... just me ranting. I'm dying to see this, and even dante'sinferno's overexcitement about it didn't throw me off from it, hahaha:D

[Posher778]

POSSIBLE MINI SPOILERS! PoShEr778: so how was pyramidhead?
DanteSparda1000: he fuckin pw3nd bitches
DanteSparda1000: u REALLY need to see it
PoShEr778: how many people got killed altogether?
DanteSparda1000: er.....1
DanteSparda1000: then like 30 altogether
PoShEr778: awesome
DanteSparda1000: they all die by barbed wire
DanteSparda1000: and one girl dies by um...
PoShEr778: 30 by barb wire? don't believe it.
DanteSparda1000: heh
DanteSparda1000: YES THEY ALL DIE
DanteSparda1000: THEY Deserved it too
DanteSparda1000: once u see it u will be cheering for those dumb fuckers to die
PoShEr778: ok
DanteSparda1000: want me to tell u how that one girl dies???!?!??!
PoShEr778: which one?
DanteSparda1000: right hand of satan kills a red headed girl
DanteSparda1000: it was so awsome
DanteSparda1000: NOW THAT WAS HORROR
PoShEr778: how does he kill her
DanteSparda1000: he lifts her up off the ground by the fucking neck
DanteSparda1000: Then rips her clothes off were shes naked
DanteSparda1000: Then grabs her by the breasts and rips her FUCKING SKIN OFF......THE FUCK OFF
PoShEr778: dude... chill...lol
PoShEr778: it wasn't that great
DanteSparda1000: YES IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DanteSparda1000: the opening is slow but once they get to silent hill its on like some neck bones
PoShEr778: i like slow openings
DanteSparda1000: man!??!?!?!

[Dante'sInferno]

Originally posted by Posher778
POSSIBLE MINI SPOILERS! PoShEr778: so how was pyramidhead?
DanteSparda1000: he fuckin pw3nd bitches
DanteSparda1000: u REALLY need to see it
PoShEr778: how many people got killed altogether?
DanteSparda1000: er.....1
DanteSparda1000: then like 30 altogether
PoShEr778: awesome
DanteSparda1000: they all die by barbed wire
DanteSparda1000: and one girl dies by um...
PoShEr778: 30 by barb wire? don't believe it.
DanteSparda1000: heh
DanteSparda1000: YES THEY ALL DIE
DanteSparda1000: THEY Deserved it too
DanteSparda1000: once u see it u will be cheering for those dumb fuckers to die
PoShEr778: ok
DanteSparda1000: want me to tell u how that one girl dies???!?!??!
PoShEr778: which one?
DanteSparda1000: right hand of satan kills a red headed girl
DanteSparda1000: it was so awsome
DanteSparda1000: NOW THAT WAS HORROR
PoShEr778: how does he kill her
DanteSparda1000: he lifts her up off the ground by the fucking neck
DanteSparda1000: Then rips her clothes off were shes naked
DanteSparda1000: Then grabs her by the breasts and rips her FUCKING SKIN OFF......THE FUCK OFF
PoShEr778: dude... chill...lol
PoShEr778: it wasn't that great
DanteSparda1000: YES IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DanteSparda1000: the opening is slow but once they get to silent hill its on like some neck bones
PoShEr778: i like slow openings
DanteSparda1000: man!??!?!?! OMG LYKE I SOUNDED LYKE A RETARD!

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Dante'sInferno
OMG LYKE I SOUNDED LYKE A RETARD!

Uh...and you usually sound like...?

:p ;)

[Prelude95Si]

I thought that it was a great film. I hated the ending, I don't like clif hanger endings like that, if you want to do a sequale end the movie in a way that brings closure to the story at the moment but leave elements unexplained. I felt like they ended the movie right in the middle of the story.
But overall a good movie.

[Haunted]

Thought it was a great time. I wanted it to be a little scary, but I guess surving the games made that too much to ask. Two things bothered me.

1. I like Cybil Bennet. Hated to see her die.
2. I wanted more Pyramid Head action. Loved the way he killed that chick. Could have seen more, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, though, but wasn't it rumored that Pyramid Head was a "she?" It seems that after SH2 came out there was a rumor floating around about that.

Okay, fill me in... Was the cult thingie a part of SH3? Haven't been able to play it. Sorry that I'm really really sentimental, but SH was mine and my ex beau, Luke's game, and I was like, crazy insane in love with him. So after I got over him, I just never got around to it. Anyway...the cult? Also, was there any closure in SH3? Go ahead and tell me? I have too many med bills to pay off to even begin buying video games.

Cheers guys. I still wish a group of us could have gone together, but knowing IA, he would have hogged the popcorn.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Haunted
Thought it was a great time. I wanted it to be a little scary, but I guess surving the games made that too much to ask. Two things bothered me.

1. I like Cybil Bennet. Hated to see her die.
2. I wanted more Pyramid Head action. Loved the way he killed that chick. Could have seen more, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, though, but wasn't it rumored that Pyramid Head was a "she?" It seems that after SH2 came out there was a rumor floating around about that.

Okay, fill me in... Was the cult thingie a part of SH3? Haven't been able to play it. Sorry that I'm really really sentimental, but SH was mine and my ex beau, Luke's game, and I was like, crazy insane in love with him. So after I got over him, I just never got around to it. Anyway...the cult? Also, was there any closure in SH3? Go ahead and tell me? I have too many med bills to pay off to even begin buying video games.

Cheers guys. I still wish a group of us could have gone together, but knowing IA, he would have hogged the popcorn.


Well gee, thanks for that nice spoiler warning:rolleyes:.

[noctuary]

Originally posted by Haunted
Thought it was a great time. I wanted it to be a little scary, but I guess surving the games made that too much to ask. Two things bothered me.

1. I like Cybil Bennet. Hated to see her die.
2. I wanted more Pyramid Head action. Loved the way he killed that chick. Could have seen more, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, though, but wasn't it rumored that Pyramid Head was a "she?" It seems that after SH2 came out there was a rumor floating around about that.

Okay, fill me in... Was the cult thingie a part of SH3? Haven't been able to play it. Sorry that I'm really really sentimental, but SH was mine and my ex beau, Luke's game, and I was like, crazy insane in love with him. So after I got over him, I just never got around to it. Anyway...the cult? Also, was there any closure in SH3? Go ahead and tell me? I have too many med bills to pay off to even begin buying video games.

Cheers guys. I still wish a group of us could have gone together, but knowing IA, he would have hogged the popcorn.
Okay... yes, the cult plays a huge part in SH3, but I can't seem to remember the ending for some reason... it's been about 2 years since I've played it. As for PH being female... well, judging from what it was doing to those mannequin demons in the apartment in SH2, I kinda doubt it. Unless it's a futanari... I tried to post this picture I have of Pyramid Head as a girl, but the file is too big and I'm far too lazy to shrink it and whatnot.

[Abominus]

Just came back from SIlent Hill. The movie was a lot of fun. Sort of dissapointing considering the directors previous movie (Brotherhood of the Wolf). The atmosphere seemed to be missing something.

Pyramid Head was more impressive then even I would have thought. See it in the theatres, you wont be dissapointed. Good movie, great gore and a piss off of an ending. Fans of the game will enjoy it more.

No spoilers here.

[Haunted]

Originally posted by The_Return
Well gee, thanks for that nice spoiler warning:rolleyes:.

Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I thought that because of that shit between Dante and Posher that this was just people who'd seen the movie. I'm really sorry. I wasn't thinking clearly. Please forgive this idiot child.:( :(

[Posher778]

Originally posted by Haunted
Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I thought that because of that shit between Dante and Posher that this was just people who'd seen the movie. I'm really sorry. I wasn't thinking clearly. Please forgive this idiot child.:( :(

Never! I haven't even seen it!

*smites*



nah it's ok.

[ItsAlive75]

I loved it, even though it was a bit lengthy. Favorite part was the guy comin' out of the bathroom stall... Ooooooooh.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Haunted
Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I thought that because of that shit between Dante and Posher that this was just people who'd seen the movie. I'm really sorry. I wasn't thinking clearly. Please forgive this idiot child.:( :(

Meh, no prob...Ill probably forget by the time I get around to seeing the movie anyway:p

[Jacob Singer]

the cult plays a huge part in SH3

There's two endings


-Good ending: You kill god, and scapes from the church and meet with Douglas at the amusement park.

-The bad ending: only when you killed at less 300 enemies (less or more, I don't remember exactly) and if you didn't forgives Claudia "crimes" at the church. again you killed God but when you meets again with Douglas you kill him

-Theres a UFO ending (like on the first part): Use the special dress (princess heart) and kill all monsters only with Heather's bean. When you arives to Heather's apartment the game ends (You could get this ending only if you had finished the game at less one time getting the dress and Heather's bean)

And two more things, the cult has an special play on SH 4 (Or better said, Dalia Gallespy), and please STOP TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING FILM (There's two more months, or three until it arrives to Spain)

[Posher778]

Originally posted by Jacob Singer
There's two endings


-Good ending: You kill god, and scapes from the church and meet with Douglas at the amusement park.

-The bad ending: only when you killed at less 300 enemies (less or more, I don't remember exactly) and if you didn't forgives Claudia "crimes" at the church. again you killed God but when you meets again with Douglas you kill him

-Theres a UFO ending (like on the first part): Use the special dress (princess heart) and kill all monsters only with Heather's bean. When you arives to Heather's apartment the game ends (You could get this ending only if you had finished the game at less one time getting the dress and Heather's bean)

And two more things, the cult has an special play on SH 4 (Or better said, Dalia Gallespy), and please STOP TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING FILM (There's two more months, or three until it arrives to Spain)

Well it's already out here, so just don't look at this thread.

[Jacob Singer]

So nice thanks.

[noctuary]

I just saw it last night, and I have mixed feelings. As far as the atmosphere and visuals go, they got it dead on. The scene where Rose first comes to Silent Hill is exactly like the very beginning of the first game. They even used some of the same camera angles, which was very cool. The story though... they changed a few things which didn't really make sense to me. All in all though, I'd say that Silent Hill is probably the best video game adaptation I've seen. I know that's not really saying very much, but it is a decent film. My girlfriend loved it and she hasn't played any of the games, so I'd say that you'll probably get more out of it if you haven't played them either. I still think that the plot of SH2 would have made a better movie, so here's hoping that they make a sequel based on that game.

[phantomstranger]

Well, first let me say I've never played the game, so I had no knowledge of the story.
The movie itself...well I've seen worse. Good acting and nice atmosphere but no real scares and the ending was a little vague. Overall, just a so-so movie.

[Kreech]

*********SPOILER
Okay, Cibel being burned alive in a profile shot by crazy hoes and bitches in a cult... terrible experiance to sit through. I don't know why, but that was a kick ass character and I was pained to see her beaten and then torched. Same w/ the little girl.

It sort of became a cyber-punkish thing at the end though, that table and all those wires etc.. I wasn't even a giant fan of the game, (more of a resident evil kid) but man, this was pretty friggin good. I just got back from seeing it so i'm like "wowomgwowz0rz!11!1" probably sounding like a moron.

It was good though. See it.

[IDrinkYourBlood]

Jeez I come back on the board and theres like 3 people i rememeber from back when. Anyways I really liked this movie. 4/5. They could have changed some things here and there but for the most part I was very satisfied. The best Horror movie to come out this year....i think....i forget what came out. But as a HUGE fan of the series I liked it alot. Deffinitly picking this up on DVD.

[The Mothman]

this was so rediculously awful. I dont see how anyone could enjoy it at all. it was laughable throughout the entire film. not the least bit scary either. the nurses looked like they were breakdancing.

[phantomstranger]

Originally posted by The Mothman
[ the nurses looked like they were breakdancing. [/B]



The scene with the nurses was hysterical. It reminded me of the old Micheal Jackson "Thriller" video

[Angelakillsluts]

So what's the overall feeling about the movie? Good, Average, horrible? I'm going to see it tomorrow night.

[Posher778]

Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
So what's the overall feeling about the movie? Good, Average, horrible? I'm going to see it tomorrow night.

Supposedly great, as i've heard. Will you pm me a review when you get the chance?

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by Posher778
Supposedly great, as i've heard. Will you pm me a review when you get the chance?

Sure will. :)

[Posher778]

Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
Sure will. :)


Thank you, look forward to it.

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
So what's the overall feeling about the movie? Good, Average, horrible? I'm going to see it tomorrow night.
horrible. everyone in the theater was laughing throughout the whole thing, and all my freinds felt it was a waste of money and an awful film.

[Abominus]

Good, not great. Seeing Pyramid Head on the big screen was a lot of fun for me. It had it's flaws but there is fun to be had.

[Macey Wuesthoff]

Sorry about the vomiting and hope it didn't splatter on anyone, but truly, SILENT HILL made my top 20 list of worst horror movies I have ever seen. In the showing I went to, all of the audience members were also laughing. My husband, also an avid horror fan, termed the movie "an utter embarrassment to the horror genre." I will be writing a review soon, and when I do, I will post the link here.

My recommendation...avoid this one like the plague.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by phantomstranger
The scene with the nurses was hysterical. It reminded me of the old Micheal Jackson "Thriller" video

I read in an interview that the nurses were actually played by "exotic dancers". How great is that....

[Macey Wuesthoff]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I read in an interview that the nurses were actually played by "exotic dancers". How great is that....

HA-ha! We laughed our butts off at that whole scene. It looked so mechanical and cheesy, like something out of a really broke horror movie...oh, wait, it WAS something out of a really broke horror movie!

[urgeok]

dammit - i really want to see this movie ..
the timing just isnt working out.

[Macey Wuesthoff]

Originally posted by urgeok
dammit - i really want to see this movie ..
the timing just isnt working out.

Fret not, Urgeok! Save yourself some money and see it at your local dollar theater or rent it when it comes to DVD. Trust me, it ain't all that and it ain't worth it, unless you are just wowed by special effects without a sensible plot.

Here's a link to a review of it: http://www.epinions.com/content_228065054340. This isn't my review, but I agree with most of what it says, and it gives you an even bigger laugh than the movie itself.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Macey Wuesthoff
Fret not, Urgeok! Save yourself some money and see it at your local dollar theater or rent it when it comes to DVD. Trust me, it ain't all that and it ain't worth it, unless you are just wowed by special effects without a sensible plot.

Here's a link to a review of it: http://www.epinions.com/content_228065054340. This isn't my review, but I agree with most of what it says, and it gives you an even bigger laugh than the movie itself.

actually a friend of mine (who writes reviews for Rue Morgue magazine) reviewed it and loved it ..

i respect the guys opinion because with one exception (he loves The Beyond - i hate it) we usually have the exact same taste in film ..

he said it was old school .. very atmospheric, brutal (in a good way) and creepy.

I'm all over that.

[Macey Wuesthoff]

[i]
Here's a link to a review of it: http://www.epinions.com/content_228065054340. [/B]

Hmmm, clicked on the link and noticed it doesn't work for me for some reason. However, it did work for me by copying and pasting it in my browser. So if the click fails for you, try that.

[urgeok]

that review was written by someone who was a fan of the game ..

i've never even seen the game ... I'll be able to enjoy it on the merits of it's being 'just a movie'

i'm not ruling out that i wont like it .. its possible .... but i want to check it out anyway.

[newb]

Originally posted by urgeok
actually a friend of mine (who writes reviews for Rue Morgue magazine) reviewed it and loved it ..

i respect the guys opinion because with one exception (he loves The Beyond - i hate it) we usually have the exact same taste in film ..


Your gonna piss off Nyarl.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by newb
Your gonna piss off Nyarl.


ohhhh i'm pretty sure he knows :)


2 in the stomach, 1 in the head
2 in the stomach, 1 in the head .....

repeat when neccessary.




i've actually given it a lot of thought and i realize - had i seen The Beyond 20 years ago - i probably would have liked it ..

but 20 years ago it was phantasm turning my crank.

early exposures pave the way for your future expectations and preferences ...


maybe if i saw phantasm now for the 1st time i wouldnt like it either ...

[Macey Wuesthoff]

Originally posted by urgeok
that review was written by someone who was a fan of the game ..

i've never even seen the game ...

Actually, I have, and that's the one aspect that I disagreed with the reviewer on...I thought the game sucked as much as the movie. One of the few positive things I can say about the movie, like the reviewer said, is that it does look like the game. But again, I thought the game sucked, too. Also, I agree with your friend in that the movie does have a cool atmosphere, but for me, all the atmosphere and gore in the world don't matter if the plot makes no sense, and it didn't to me.

I do understand your desire of wanting to check it out anyway, but simply am trying to give you a little comfort about having to wait a bit if you can't fit it into your schedule, as you said. Please let me know what you think of it when you see it, and if your opinion differs this time from that of your friend's.

[urgeok]

sure, i'll post my opinion here .. i just hope i get to see it on the big screen 1st.

most of the people i know wouldnt see a horror movie - except one .. and he's got the scheduling difficulties.

i do like atmospheric films .. they dont always have to make sense if they can maintain a cool trippy dreamlike reality and present me with some otherworldly visuals.

i dont like just anything like this .. i have some kind of unknown criteria i cant articulate preprogrammed into my acceptability matrix (i sound like Data) ...

its hard to put a finger on it .. it depends on pacing, subtleties, a lot of little things that need to fall into place in a way that personally appeals to me.


I think i've almost come up with a definition/equation for what makes a movie more style over substance by the way ..


based on something like this :

the more content that is presented in the movie for the viewer - rather than the players in the film ... is the balance of style over substance.

for example :

in Ju-on, or the Grudge :

the elevator scene where the woman is ascending to her floor to get to her apartment ... the cat/boy is on every floor.
She doesnt know that - but we do.
moment like that benefits us the audience - not the characters.... so thats 100% style.

if its handled properly - i love it.

if it has a ham-fisted approach by a director that doesnt understand how to pace or measure these moments - the movie fails.

[The Mothman]

To tell you the truth, i even think the boogeyman was better than this one.

[Jacob Singer]

i've never even seen the game ... I'll be able to enjoy it on the merits of it's being 'just a movie'

Wise words, I think that if the films are good for those that never had played the games that means that the director has done right his work, I don't care another game fans opinions, if the film doesnt works well for other people that's a bad film, If I wanted just a faithful to the edge adaptation I would play the games again. So if you see the movie please post here your opinion and maybe I give it a chance (It will be on theaters on Spain on July...so take it easy)

[Macey Wuesthoff]

Originally posted by Jacob Singer
I don't care another game fans opinions, if the film doesnt works well for other people that's a bad film, If I wanted just a faithful to the edge adaptation I would play the games again.

I agree with you that the movie should stand on its own apart from the game, though I wish the RESIDENT EVIL makers would have stuck to the game for their story (the games' stories were much better than the movie, IMO). For what i's worth, Jacob, my reaction wasn't influenced by the games; I hated the games, so I didn't go into it wanting it to be like or not like the games. I just hoped it was BETTER than the games. It wasn't. I thought the story pacing and development sucked in the game and in the movie both. And even the review of the gamer I linked to said that the movie was nearly impossible to understand even with a good understanding of the game...much less without one.

A child is missing, and her mother wants to find her...other than that, I couldn't make much sense out of any of it.

I guess I can't stop bashing this movie just because I can't believe how much it sucked. I guess I need to write that damn review already and get it out of my system.

[Jacob Singer]

DOUH
...sorry I'm a big fan of the games and those words hurts....but yeah, games and films are different "mediums", so it doesn't means that if something works for one would work as well for the other

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Macey Wuesthoff

A child is missing, and her mother wants to find her...other than that, I couldn't make much sense out of any of it.

I guess I can't stop bashing this movie just because I can't believe how much it sucked. I guess I need to write that damn review already and get it out of my system.

Y'know, this movie's growing on me. There are a few scenes that had be inching in my chair, and not a lot of movies can do that for me nowadays. The scene in the bathroom especially worked on me.

The film's just a bit slow-paced. The Sean Bean scenes (and this KILLS me to say it) were useless... didn't have to be in the movie whatsoever. A moody horror flick that relies on atmosphere and pacing can't be over 2 hours long, it just can't.

And as an avid fan of ALL the games, I can say (at least visually) this movie is extremely faithful. In the one scene where the mother is running down the alley, this is STRAIGHT out of the first game (when she runs past the garage). I couldn't believe it. And let's not forget the babies... STRAIGHT out of the game. Plus the grainy filter that was put over the film was an awesome touch too.

Urge, I'm gonna strongly suggest this flick for ya. NOW you can see it, as I have given my approval.

[Jacob Singer]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Y'know, this movie's growing on me. There are a few scenes that had be inching in my chair, and not a lot of movies can do that for me nowadays. The scene in the bathroom especially worked on me.

The film's just a bit slow-paced. The Sean Bean scenes (and this KILLS me to say it) were useless... didn't have to be in the movie whatsoever. A moody horror flick that relies on atmosphere and pacing can't be over 2 hours long, it just can't.

And as an avid fan of ALL the games, I can say (at least visually) this movie is extremely faithful. In the one scene where the mother is running down the alley, this is STRAIGHT out of the first game (when she runs past the garage). I couldn't believe it. And let's not forget the babies... STRAIGHT out of the game. Plus the grainy filter that was put over the film was an awesome touch too.

Urge, I'm gonna strongly suggest this flick for ya. NOW you can see it, as I have given my approval.


Ok the visual part works well, but do you said about the plot?
What is all the shit about that theres no cult just christian fanatics burning witches? One of the best things on the games is the Silent Hill's cult with their desire to awake the old cult's god (a great reference to Cthulu's mythos)

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Jacob Singer
Ok the visual part works well, but do you said about the plot?
What is all the shit about that theres no cult just christian fanatics burning witches? One of the best things on the games is the Silent Hill's cult with their desire to awake the old cult's god (a great reference to Cthulu's mythos)

True, but I still like what they did with the movie's plot.

SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SPOILER

The fact that all those people thought they were staying alive by their faith, when in fact they were in a never-ending limbo was a really great idea. Meanwhile the mother is working under the principle of love for her daughter, and not faith in herself or any God.

I wouldn't want every thing from the game to be in the movie, then I'd know what's going to happen.

[Firemedic]

way to long, it could have been edited down a bit, like maybe to a half hour! the plot sucks , the acting sucks, hmmm what else, oh yeah it just sucks!

[Macey Wuesthoff]

Originally posted by Firemedic
way to long, it could have been edited down a bit, like maybe to a half hour! the plot sucks , the acting sucks, hmmm what else, oh yeah it just sucks!

Couldn't agree more!

And the cult "storyline"? That consists pretty much of all the members running around yelling, "She's a witch, burn her!" "She's a witch, too! Burn her!" "Witch! Burn her!"

That's a STORYLINE? P-U-L-L-L-EAZE!!!

"It's SILENT HILL! Burn it!"

[Posher778]

Originally posted by Firemedic
oh yeah it just sucks!


That's just unreasonable.

[qwerty345]

links plzzzzzz

[urgeok]

ok .. finally - i'm seeing this bad boy tonight at last.

[The Mothman]

dont waste your money.

[urgeok]

great movie - fucking loved it.
only chance was last night at 10:10 so it was 10:20 by the time it started. I was tired as hell but the movie kept me awake.

vidually stunning .. lots of tension - solid performances.

I agree with a review i heard that said the movie is hurt when the events are explained near the end .. it harshed the whole trip - took you out of the moment ... but up til that point the movie was gorgeous to look at - left me with several memorable moments.

i thought the ending was cool too....(the very end)

didnt regret that a bit and I'll be getting the DVD when it comes out too.

[Jacob Singer]

Cool as I've said, I will give it a change

[Thorns_demon]

I think it was better than the boogeyman, the boogeyman absolutely sucked, I liked the ending of Silent hill, just because of the barbwire. it was a good movie but it's not one of my favourites....Oh wait, I guess I have no favourites for real at all.

[crippler666]

After all the other computer related movies come out (most were below average), this one tries and succedes on many levels.

Many of this years releases are all remakes or borrows from other films.

Whilst this borrows from the game, it still shows some originality.

Maybe you would have prefered another Resident Evil movie?

[Posher778]

Originally posted by crippler666


Maybe you would have prefered another Resident Evil movie?

Not against that in my opinion. I actually enjoyed the second more than the first on a lot of levels.

[crippler666]

I actually quite like them and Alone in the Dark, but i accept that they wasn't very well recieved.

I just hope I never have to see Pac Man the Movie... That is just wrong

[noctuary]

Originally posted by crippler666
I actually quite like them and Alone in the Dark
:eek:

Someone liked that movie! The world really is coming to an end!

[Thorns_demon]

Originally posted by crippler666
Maybe you would have prefered another Resident Evil movie?

hmmm, I read (somewhere) that there is another resident evil, can't remember the name tho, 3movies whoohoo, well hope this one's the best.

[Macey Wuesthoff]

[i] Maybe you would have prefered another Resident Evil movie? [/B]

Nope, just would have preferred a movie with a sensible plot, characters who weren't so f-ing stupid I didn't give a crap about them, and an ending that was not a contrived, overdone duplicate of that in movies like :o THE SIXTH SENSE, THE OTHERS, and STAY. :o Both RE and SH happened to lack all of those elements, particularly SILENT HILL.

Sure the atmosphere, setting, and eye candy looked great, but to me, that's not enough to make a movie, and I'm not alone in this theory. Case in point in a different genre--WHAT DREAMS MAY COME. It had Robin Williams, whom most moviegoers loved, and settings and scenes that were drop-dead gorgeous but still flopped. Why? Like SILENT HILL, WHAT DREAMS MAY COME was, as one professional critic put it, "Beautiful to look at, but dumb as dust." To me, SH was basically WDMC the horror version.

[urgeok]

there are definately a lot of people who prefer substance over style. it's about 1/2 and 1/2.

i always found that kind of funny in the horror genre where reality often is thrown out by the very nature of the plot itself.

i dont believe in ghosts. so by that token i should see any movie with a ghost as fanciful fluff (if i was of that mind set). There are a lot of people who do feel this way.

But - because i do like stylistic movies and using my imagination - i can go with them - if they are well made.

I dont need everything explained for me .. i can enjoy a visual trip
If i expected everything to make sense there would be very few movies to chose from and definatelly nothing in the horror genre where everything is 100% bullshit to begin with.
(except fear itself.... although even thinking about that - irrational fear is bullshit too .. it's not like there is anything in a movie to be truely afraid of - it aint real)

I dont know why/where people draw their lines of 'whats acceptable' in the sand. I cant even define my own level of acceptability - other than this : if it is visually interesting, the acting is decent ... the pacing is appropriate ,,etc .. then its a good experince for me.

After seeing Silent Hill I left that theatre with some strong and lasting visual images. I cant think of many other horror films in ages that has done that for me..

[Thorns_demon]

has anyone ever seen a horror movie that was 100% perfect made and unique, no I don't think so, maybe in the 60's or something, or when they started to make movies even if they were in black and white.

I think many movies are nice to look at, i don't think things thru like the story itself or a good ending, if I have to judge all of that, I'd better don't see any movie again, man that would be bored, being disappointed everytime you see a movie :s, ok mostly that is the case lol but not with every movie, not when I just look at the effects and graphics.

[Macey Wuesthoff]

Originally posted by urgeok
there are definately a lot of people who prefer substance over style. it's about 1/2 and 1/2.

i always found that kind of funny in the horror genre where reality often is thrown out by the very nature of the plot itself.

Actually, call me too picky, but I prefer movies with both. If a movie does have substance and story but lacks style, I also don't like it. Examples: 28 DAYS LATER, which had a story, but the lighting, camera angles, and poor diction got on my last nerve; and some movie I can't remember the name of about a "Poe" serial killer killing his victims in the pattern of Poe stories. Great, original concept and story, but the acting and camera work were so bad that I couldn't get through it.

[i]i dont believe in ghosts. so by that token i should see any movie with a ghost as fanciful fluff (if i was of that mind set). There are a lot of people who do feel this way.[/B]

You should start, Dude. I believe in them, and it opens up whole new worlds. It's almost like the age-old horror genre addage (sp.?), you can't see it unless you believe. Not that I've actually ever SEEN a ghost, but in believing they do exist, I've had a few supernatural experiences myself, and know others who likewise have.


[i]I dont need everything explained for me .. i can enjoy a visual trip [/B]

I do. I think it's a sign of superior thought, creativity, and storytelling on the part of the author/screenwriter. Then again, maybe that's the writer in me. I just appreciate stuff that makes me think.


[i]If i expected everything to make sense there would be very few movies to chose from and definatelly nothing in the horror genre where everything is 100% bullshit to begin with.
(except fear itself.... although even thinking about that - irrational fear is bullshit too .. it's not like there is anything in a movie to be truely afraid of - it aint real)[/B]

Gotta butt heads with you a bit on that one. I think there are a lot of horror movies out there that do make sense and have realistic element: THE EXORCIST and THE EXORCISM OF EMILY ROSE, for starters, which are loosely based on an actual possession and deals with the Devil, which I also believe exists. AMYTIVILLE HORROR (the original), THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE, and THE HILLS HAVE EYES are also believable premises, demons (which I believe exist) and crazy people/cannibals (I believe their is no limit to the level of craziness other people can dish out. There are some really f-ed up folks out there.), again all loosely based on true incidents. Others that aren't based on true stories but which still had believable premises to me include SAW and SAW II, WITCHBOARD, and THE DEVIL'S REJECTS. Even HOUSE OF 1,000 CORPSES was believable, with perhaps exception of the zombie scene.

[i]I dont know why/where people draw their lines of 'whats acceptable' in the sand. I cant even define my own level of acceptability - other than this : if it is visually interesting, the acting is decent ... the pacing is appropriate ,,etc .. then its a good experince for me.[/B]

I think its personal differences in taste. For me, while something making sense AND having good style should both be present, I need one other element even more. When I see/read something, I need to get a chill down my spine, or at least some sort of emotional reaction. I know that may be simple/and or abstract, but that's what does it for me. If I get "my chill," I can often enjoy movies that lack in one or even both of the other elements. With SILENT HILL, as you may have guessed, no chill, and with the messy plot, I just couldn't get into it.

[i] After seeing Silent Hill I left that theatre with some strong and lasting visual images. I cant think of many other horror films in ages that has done that for me.. [/B]

That actually happened for me with THE DEVIL'S REJECTS, the new THE HILLS HAVE EYES, and HOUSE OF 1,000 CORPSES. With the zombie films in particular, I was seeing those images in my mind's eye for months afterward. But I also thought both of those movies had the elements of substance and style as well.

I'm glad you posted your reaction, Urgeok. Even though we disagree on this film, it has been fun debating and discussing it. :cool:

[urgeok]

thats what we're here for ..


i definately do not believe in ghosts, goblins, witches(magic), vampires, leprechauns, faeries, ents, or anything else like that.

I'm not a kid - (i'm 45) and i have a philosophy why these things exist in the minds and hearts of others but thats another lengthy discussion. So we can't go there with any success ...

it doesnt ruin the movie going experience for me .. i still enjoy the fantasy battles between good and evil, etc ..

I am able to see a film the way some of us view other visual art ..
i can dig the view even if i dont understand the personal vision of the person who created it. Some art is photorealistic bateman, others are dreamscapes by Dali, others are far more surreal and abstract than that. Some will appeal to me - some wont - based on my personal sense of taste.

there is certainly no universal right or wrong with this issue ...
its a pure and simple case of 'whatever floats your boat'


What Dreams May Come .. i saw this .. didnt think it was great but i did enjoy some of the visuals ... nothing as striking as the creatures in Silent Hill though ..

A bit of an unfair comparrison though .. on one hand - how much does one expect from a video game adaptation ... on the other .. you're dealing with the expectations that you'd get from a Richard Matheson story. you're under a microscope ..mess with that even slightly and suffer the wrath of fanboys.

one last thing to address .. re not caring about the characters in Silent Hill :

the most terrifying part of the whole movie for me (and what made me buy into it) was the daughter standing on the edge of the cliff.
this hit me on a personal level because - being a father of a 5 year old - you fear for their safety always and sometimes i have the morbid habit of picturing us in horrifying scenarios - where he's in danger and i cant help him .. and the cliff edge thing is one of them. (i'm afraid of heights)

So from there we have a conflict - a mother afraid to lose her child because of this condition (seperation, and/or the loss of sanity)

My kid is a busy kid .. ADD has been suggested many a time. In the past similar cases were dealt with with drugs .. something i would refuse to do (you never want to see your childs personality change - even if he can be a (well meaning) imp.

so on top of that you have a dad who lost both wife and daughter ...

I cant connect with devils and ghosts but i certainly can identify with loss and separation ...


(honestly - there's no such things as ghosts - Kairo suggested as a plot device ... if you think about all the people who've died .. why arent we overrun .. why is it the people i wouldnt trust with a plastic spoon the only ones who see the friggin things ?? ghosts, ufos ... keebler elves ...its all the same to me)

[Posher778]

Ghosts are just.... not real...

[crippler666]

Originally posted by Macey Wuesthoff
WHAT DREAMS MAY COME. It had Robin Williams, whom most moviegoers loved, and settings and scenes that were drop-dead gorgeous but still flopped. Why? Like SILENT HILL, WHAT DREAMS MAY COME was, as one professional critic put it, "Beautiful to look at, but dumb as dust." To me, SH was basically WDMC the horror version.

So we have over a 500 page novel by Richard Matheson as background Vs 4 computer games that have been translated from Japenese as background?

My point was that out of all the computer related games that this appeared to be the best out there (considering House Of The Dead & Mortal Kombat).

If you have ever played the games through to get all the endings, you will know that you are left to your own perspective to what is the real ending.

As an example in the first it could have been A Cult, Aliens & even Drug related as to which you wanted to believe responsible for the first game.

How many films are made now that are original in the horror genere? They all borrow from each other or are remakes just now.

I look for enjoyment in what I watch and not alot else. The plot can be cheese, the actors just wrong and shot by an amateur who is drunk. But none of it matters if you enjoy the movie.

[Miss Olivia]

Was SH goofy? Yes. Was the plot a little formulaic? Yes. Did the wart in between the main characters eyebrows bother me? Definitely. Was I entertained? Absolutely. Sometimes you just have to let the little trivialities go and ride the ashy flow...For every excellent horror movie that's released there are three goofy ones, personally I can laugh at the script that was probably written by the guy who used to make those stupid old navy commercials and still enjoy the movie...

[crazy raplh]

it was a bad movie I though for sure it would be good but that is only my opinion

[_____V_____]

Being unique individuals, our tastes in movies esp horror movies are different also. No two people will agree that the same movie which one liked would be liked by the other. Some people prefer a more realistic story, others like visuals, narration, atmosphere, characterisation, acting, sound effects etc. All the categories into which movie-making can be divided, can be evenly distributed into the choices of the viewers too.

Coming to Silent Hill, and comparing it with other recent game-to-movie adaptations, I would say its a much much better offering. The tenseness and the atmosphere have been more than adequately handled, and I loved the way sound has been used in the movie. And most of the monster sequences were actually good, although the movie could have done without the Sean Bean character (dont think it was in the game either). The story stayed faithful to the game, and the pace of the movie was excellently perfect. I would give it a 07/10, just cuz it has its share of flaws too...

I have already mentioned the first weak point, second has to be the sequence nearing the climax where so many explanations have to be given for the movie to move into the next frame...maybe the makers thought that this should be done for people who didnt play the game, but 90% of the people who went to see the movie have either played or knew about the game before. Unsaid stuff in movies is rare, like the climax of Se7en...but I guess they all cant be THAT perfect...

But compared to House of the Dead, Resident Evil 1 @ 2, and the rest...Silent Hill sure comes out a winner by a mile...

Hopefully Uwe watches the movie and takes notes...

[Posher778]

I still think Resident evil was a pretty decent movie... Both of them in fact.

[_____V_____]

RE1 was good...definite 07/10 movie...but RE2 fell below 1's standards...they wasted a perfect group of characters by a really weak story...

Nemesis looked much better in RE3 the game, and everytime he popped onto my screen I was like "f*** he's back n I gotta take him out again!" but in the movie...blah...

[Posher778]

I thought RE2 was better than the first movie actually.

[Miss Olivia]

Yeah, poor old Nemesis in RE2 looked like they took The Toxic Avenger and stuffed him in Patrick Stewart's old Borg suit...

[hellfire1]

Originally posted by Posher778
I thought RE2 was better than the first movie actually.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

oh my god, i thought it was so bad i wanted to gouge my eyes out ! only one other movie has ever done that to me... *bows head in shame*... "honey" with jessica alba.

[_____V_____]

RE2 sucked...period. RE1 was a way better offering.

Strangely, recent horror flicks dont have horror in em anymore. Just watch em for the cgi and sound effects, and the action, what with Blade, Underworld, RE1 & 2, Van Helsing, HellBoy, Amityville(new), Freddy vs Jason, Alien vs Predator etc. redefining the genre.

Thought horror meant scary. Something which would scare the pants off the audience. Are the makers running out of steam? or is the genre gonna be merged into Action/Sci-Fi?

I havent seen a single recent movie which has made me scared. Last one which had that effect on me was Se7en's climax, and that was quite a while back.

Thought the Creeper held some promise, and hoping pt.3 will make some horror sense...

[urgeok]

i thought RE1 was entertaining .. and RE2 was poop.
I wont elaborate why because I've done so in about 3 other threads.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by _____V_____
RE2 sucked...period. RE1 was a way better offering.

Strangely, recent horror flicks dont have horror in em anymore. Just watch em for the cgi and sound effects, and the action, what with Blade, Underworld, RE1 & 2, Van Helsing, HellBoy, Amityville(new), Freddy vs Jason, Alien vs Predator etc. redefining the genre.

Thought horror meant scary. Something which would scare the pants off the audience. Are the makers running out of steam? or is the genre gonna be merged into Action/Sci-Fi?

I havent seen a single recent movie which has made me scared. Last one which had that effect on me was Se7en's climax, and that was quite a while back.

Thought the Creeper held some promise, and hoping pt.3 will make some horror sense...


The majority of the movie you mentioned arent even intended to be horror. The majority are action movies, pure and simple, with a few elements of horror. The only real horror on your list is Amityville, Freddy vs Jason, and MAYBE Alien vs Predator. The rest, despite having horror themes such as zombies, vampires and demons, are strictly action. Horror movies are still being made, they're just going downhill. Action filmmakers are realising that horror sells, and adding themes to their movies, often with some degree of success. I dont really kow where Im going with this, I just wanted to point it out...

[_____V_____]

My point exactly. If this continues, horror might soon find itself as a sub-category of the Action or the Sci-Fi genre. There wont be anything left which can be categorised as pure horror anymore.

I hope someone from New Line or Village Roadshow is realising it as we speak, and is going to do something about it...

[The_Return]

Originally posted by _____V_____
My point exactly. If this continues, horror might soon find itself as a sub-category of the Action or the Sci-Fi genre. There wont be anything left which can be categorised as pure horror anymore.

I hope someone from New Line or Village Roadshow is realising it as we speak, and is going to do something about it...

Nah, real horror films are still being made. Silent Hill, Hills Have Eyes, When a Stranger Calls, Boogeyman, The Skelleton Key...sure, they might not be the greatest movies, but I think they're safe proof that horror is and will always be it's own genre.

Horror has been known to borrow into other genres, as well. Look at Evil Dead 2, a great blend of comedy and horror. Same goes for countless other films that have their roots in horror but have other themes involved. Even though genres can and often do cross and blend with each other, the original genres will always exist.

[Miss Olivia]

Yeah, horror will always be around.....how else can you explain Tori Spelling movies?

[_____V_____]

Lets hope it does...cuz its the best of all the movie genres...

[evildemontoo]

SPOILER******************************************* ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************** ********************* Spoiler brought to you by Bob Payne


Somebody explain this movie to me. The ghouls/demons were totally awesome, very freaky. But I had no idea what was going on. I mean I get the fact that the little girl got fried and she turned evil, but that was about it. What happened in the end? Where they in some kind of altered reality where the Mom could stay with the kid? And if so, how the hell did they get there? They just drive to west virginny and bam they cross the reality boarder? I don't know.

[Bob Payne]

Its common courtesy to slap a spoiler warning on this thread. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that they were dead the whole movie. Their car crashed, so they died. And the female police officer crashed into the guard rail, so she was dead too.

[evildemontoo]

Sorry, I don't know what a spoiler is or I would have posted one. You want to tell me so I don't fuck it up next time?

[azathoth777]

Its common courtesy to slap a spoiler warning on this thread. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that they were dead the whole movie. Their car crashed, so they died. And the female police officer crashed into the guard rail, so she was dead too.


If it's like the games, then they wouldn't be dead just in some alternate reality/dimension. This is what I think, and that they never got out of it and must exist just beyond our reality/dimension.

[Prelude95Si]

I watched it 3 times so far and I still think that they are traped in an alternate reality. See the evil girl or demon that gave Ellisa her powers said in the the flash back that the Sharron was the good part of Ellisa. The demon also said that she was the daughter of Ellisa. So this could be taken 2 ways. Sharron is literaly the daughter of Ellisa or Sharron is literaly the good half of Ellisa meaning that the demon represents the evil half of Ellisa and when the 2 come together they become one. See right before the end you see the demon come to Sharron and Sharron opens her eyes brifly and then the demon is right in her face then Sharron faints. If you notice Sharron has some different qualities to her after this experience. She now has the sinister stare that the demon had when she looks down at Ellisa's mother. There are a lot of camera shots on Sharron after the event that show that something is different about Sharron.
Another reason I believe that they are in an alternate reality is that Chris can still get their phone calls even though its stacky.
Lastly, when the demon first approached Ellisa at the hospital her offer was that the town would fall into her darkest nightmare, thus impying that Ellisa has control over reality as she chooses.

[Vodstok]

I watched it 3 times so far and I still think that they are traped in an alternate reality. See the evil girl or demon that gave Ellisa her powers said in the the flash back that the Sharron was the good part of Ellisa. The demon also said that she was the daughter of Ellisa. So this could be taken 2 ways. Sharron is literaly the daughter of Ellisa or Sharron is literaly the good half of Ellisa meaning that the demon represents the evil half of Ellisa and when the 2 come together they become one. See right before the end you see the demon come to Sharron and Sharron opens her eyes brifly and then the demon is right in her face then Sharron faints. If you notice Sharron has some different qualities to her after this experience. She now has the sinister stare that the demon had when she looks down at Ellisa's mother. There are a lot of camera shots on Sharron after the event that show that something is different about Sharron.
Another reason I believe that they are in an alternate reality is that Chris can still get their phone calls even though its stacky.
Lastly, when the demon first approached Ellisa at the hospital her offer was that the town would fall into her darkest nightmare, thus impying that Ellisa has control over reality as she chooses.Nice call.


Is it just me, or did silent hill 2 or 3 involve a man goingto silent hill because he recieved a phone call from his wife 3 years after her death?

[ShankS]

Ha ha coincidence... I'm listening to an unofficial SH soundtrack atm. :)

[PhilnEdee]

I watched it 3 times so far and I still think that they are traped in an alternate reality. See the evil girl or demon that gave Ellisa her powers said in the the flash back that the Sharron was the good part of Ellisa. The demon also said that she was the daughter of Ellisa. So this could be taken 2 ways. Sharron is literaly the daughter of Ellisa or Sharron is literaly the good half of Ellisa meaning that the demon represents the evil half of Ellisa and when the 2 come together they become one. See right before the end you see the demon come to Sharron and Sharron opens her eyes brifly and then the demon is right in her face then Sharron faints. If you notice Sharron has some different qualities to her after this experience. She now has the sinister stare that the demon had when she looks down at Ellisa's mother. There are a lot of camera shots on Sharron after the event that show that something is different about Sharron.
Another reason I believe that they are in an alternate reality is that Chris can still get their phone calls even though its stacky.
Lastly, when the demon first approached Ellisa at the hospital her offer was that the town would fall into her darkest nightmare, thus impying that Ellisa has control over reality as she chooses.

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Sounds like good explanation of very confusing movie, especially towards the end...I think Sharon is 50/50 good/evil Sharon/Alyssa reunited at the end...they(Rose and Sharon) are def. in another reality or in hell, when they are in the school the same time as the husband and Officer Gucci-they are in different worlds or realities..just as the husband is somewhere else at the end ...thought the movie had potential, did have some good horror moments, thought it just fell to pieces last 1/4 though...after watching it the 2nd time, I put it in the "not good" category...and I still needed some more explanation on the whole buring town thing...underground coal fires? hell? fire from the Hotel still going in that reality? and as they drive across the chasm at the edge of town, the road reappears. Their dimension is still shrouded in smoke, ash, and fog. Husband is napping at home on the sofa in the real world. Rose and Sharon — still within the fog — enter the house and it is made obvious that they are trapped in their separate, but parallel realities.

[The Mothman]

Hi, just thought i might stop by and state how much i despise this retarded movie.:)

[evildemontoo]

Ha ha, I didn't like to to much either Mothman! But you have to admitt that the ghoulies/demons that were all deformed and jerking around were pretty awesome! That totally freaked me out.

After the discussion here, I think I have to go with my initial reaction that they are in some altered reality. I also think that in the end Sharon and Alyssa somehow fused. I think it was when towards the end and the barbed wire was flying all over the place the MOM said for Sharon to close her eyes and she sneaked a peak into the eyes of Alyssa. I agree after that shot , scenes of Sharon up close seemed to show that something else was in there. I still think it all boils down to a mother staying with a child, since they kept saying that kind of stuff throughout the movie.

I don't know if it was just the actress playing the mom or not, but some of her dialogue was just out of place in the scheme of things. I don't know if she didn't deliver it correctly or what.

[The_Return]

Hi, just thought i might stop by and state how much i despise this retarded movie.:)

You like to say that, but you never give any reason beyond that it's "retarded":rolleyes:

[The Mothman]

You like to say that, but you never give any reason beyond that it's "retarded":rolleyes:

bad acting, stupid monsters that look like there are break dancing, stupid plot twists (the movie turned into "the crucible" for fucks sake. atmosphere was the only good thing about it.

[urgeok]

bad acting, stupid monsters that look like there are break dancing, stupid plot twists (the movie turned into "the crucible" for fucks sake. atmosphere was the only good thing about it.


well, i'd personally have to disagree with all that - but thats just my point of view .. i loved the flick

[The_Return]

bad acting

Coming from the guy who spends most of his time with foreign "trash" films, you dont have much ground to stand on here. Agreed that the main girl wasnt so great, but compared to most modern day horror the rtest of the cast was great. Esp. Sean Bean, who was completely wasted IMO.

stupid plot twists (the movie turned into "the crucible" for fucks sake

Not much like The Crucible at all there dude...just cause there is witch burning type stuff doesnt mean shit. And how exactly are the plot twists "stupid"? What a lazy, undescriptive word.


All you did here man was take your post about it being "retarded" and add a few more adjectives that mean the same thing:rolleyes:

[zwoti]

Agreed that the main girl wasnt so great, but compared to most modern day horror the rtest of the cast was great. Esp. Sean Bean, who was completely wasted IMO.



originally, there wasn't going to be any major male roles....it was only after the producers got nervous that they modified the script.

[urgeok]

originally, there wasn't going to be any major male roles....it was only after the producers got nervous that they modified the script.



i still liked it .. it added to the melancholy feel of the ending ..

[The_Return]

originally, there wasn't going to be any major male roles....it was only after the producers got nervous that they modified the script.

Ive heared that...still think he did a pretty passable job though.

[The Mothman]

whatever. i still stand by my opinion. i think it tried to be scary and failed miserably. i was extremely bored throughout the whole thing. everyone i had went with thought it was stupid too, there were parts in the movie that had the people in the theater laughing out loud. its not an agurment. i stand by my opinion and you stand by yours.

[Bob Payne]

Haha, wow. Chill out. Seriously.

[The_Return]

whatever. i still stand by my opinion. i think it tried to be scary and failed miserably. i was extremely bored throughout the whole thing. everyone i had went with thought it was stupid too, there were parts in the movie that had the people in the theater laughing out loud. its not an agurment. i stand by my opinion and you stand by yours.

Thats more like it.

You only called it stupid once:p

[Burning in Hell]

The way I saw it :

The town has three "dimensions" :

- Earth, where it is just an abandonned town and where the husband goes

- Purgatory (or Limbo), where the souls of those who commited hideous acts (the cultists) are stuck. This is the dreamy version of the town where the mother and the cop first appear and where those who have not escaped the fire and died roam.

- Hell, which is the reality plagued by monsters and controlled by Alessa (if I remeber her name correctly). Hell sometimes reaches over Limbo (when the sirens go off), but the cultists prevent Alessa from really taking over.

Alessa has sent her good part away and called her back so she can use the mother to get to the cultists. After their deaths, she takes over and is no longer bound to the city.

Just my two cents...

[Roderick Usher]

I don't watch films that come from video games, but comparing it to The Crucible has piqued my interest.

Might catch it on HBO or something.

[Vodstok]

I don't watch films that come from video games, but comparing it to The Crucible has piqued my interest.

Might catch it on HBO or something.

Typically i would say that is a gooid idea, especially where UWe Boll is concerned, but Silent Hill was pretty good. Even if it had NOTHING else, the atmosphere of the movie was brilliant. The falling ash, the general greyness, you cant see more than a few hundred feet... Absolutely Beautiful. I enjoyed the monsters (although the CGI was pretty aparent, it seemed to fit, oddly enough)

Pyramid Head was intimidating as hell. knowing nothing about the games, he was just this massive creature, plodding and relentless. very well done i thought.


I actually have as tory i have been owrkingon for some time now based on the imagery from the Silent Hill 4 game trailers... if nothing else, they have the look and feel down to an artform.

[urgeok]

i never played or saw the game but i loved the movie (maybe that was more of a help than a hinderance)

it sure looked to me like someone took the trouble to make a movie that would stand up on its own - instead of a cheap extension of some game.

that would piss the fans of the game off i guess but it sure is a good thing for someone who loves an atmospheric, visually stunning horror flick.

[Vodstok]

i never played or saw the game but i loved the movie (maybe that was more of a help than a hinderance)

it sure looked to me like someone took the trouble to make a movie that would stand up on its own - instead of a cheap extension of some game.

that would piss the fans of the game off i guess but it sure is a good thing for someone who loves an atmospheric, visually stunning horror flick.

Exactly. they did something right... Especially the "Tell all" scene, which are often cheesy flashbacks.. making it look like a grainy old film really set the tone for the whole scene.

[PhilnEdee]

I don't know if it was just the actress playing the mom or not, but some of her dialogue was just out of place in the scheme of things. I don't know if she didn't deliver it correctly or what.[/QUOTE]

Amen-it was her delivery...she did the same in Pitch Black...:(

[PhilnEdee]

Way off topic.can someone send me a PM and tell me how to get my own avatar into here, would be much appreciated..now back to the show.......

[Vodstok]

Way off topic.can someone send me a PM and tell me how to get my own avatar into here, would be much appreciated..now back to the show.......

No.


Because I dont know how.

[The_Return]

I don't watch films that come from video games, but comparing it to The Crucible has piqued my interest.

Might catch it on HBO or something.

Watch it, but not for that reason.

Terrible comparison...I thought it was a great movie and I recomend it, but not like Crucible in the least. To go into why he might have said that would entail spoilers, so I'll leave it there.

[the_real_linda]

i loved it!!!! especially the use of the metal gear solid them as the womans ring tone....and it used all the music from the games perfectly

[Doc Faustus]

Hope I'm doing this right. The forum has gotten intimidating and swanky in my absence. It was plenty swanky before, but this is really something. Swanky indeed. Excellent monsters. Great atmosphere. The little girl's acting was formidable. Radha Mitchell sort of rubs me the wrong way, however and yes, the ending could have used a bit of clarity. It's head and shoulders above any videogame based movie I've ever seen. There's no reason to avoid videogame based movies other than to avoid bad movies. If a movie's good, I don't care if it's based on a Chef Boyardee product.

[Vodstok]

Hope I'm doing this right. The forum has gotten intimidating and swanky in my absence. It was plenty swanky before, but this is really something. Swanky indeed. Excellent monsters. Great atmosphere. The little girl's acting was formidable. Radha Mitchell sort of rubs me the wrong way, however and yes, the ending could have used a bit of clarity. It's head and shoulders above any videogame based movie I've ever seen. There's no reason to avoid videogame based movies other than to avoid bad movies. If a movie's good, I don't care if it's based on a Chef Boyardee product.

Nice :) very well spoken.

[slayer666]

I've never played the game on which it was based, but I thought Silent Hill was worth a rental. It delivered creepy atmosphere and interesting (but terribly overdone) CGI effects. It held my attention, but I was disappointed to find it not even mildly scary.

[the_real_linda]

what about the creepy dude in the toilet tho? he wigged me out

[Burning in Hell]

Sure, it was not scary, but what it lacked in scares it more than made up with its creepy atmosphere. Very good, atmospheric movie.

[goregurl]

hmmm i agree things have changed around here a bit since i was last on...anyway to my point..ladies and gentlemen...the explanation of silent hill (since apparently most never played the games)..yes, there are htree seperate worlds in SH (and beyond as the games attest)
world one is just here and now..normal..pleasent even.
world two is foggy silent hill where it snows (yes snow not ashes, damned creative liberties) in the summer and monsters roam about randomly...this is the SH that people see when they
A) are called there by Alessa
B) harbor guily in thier hearts (either knowingly or unknowingly)
C) they get involved with someone who is being called/has guilt.
Cybil is a tough case..some say she just got pulled along with Harry and Cheryl (Rose and Sharron), while others claim that the first game presents proof of her being involved with the drug ring in SH (which the movie completely ignored) and she is drwan in because of her guilt at behaving unbecomingly as a police officer..im inclind to say she just got hauled along.
World 3 is dark silent hill..this is the world that Alessa created as an outlet for her hate and pain because her MOTHER burned her alive to help bring forth the birth of a God (i am straying out of the movie and into the game here,as the movie makes her an outcast and she was revered and feared in the games) by making her hate. thats what that whole darkened the heart of an innocent line is about...

they did NOT die in the crash, they are very much alive, they are just trapped by Alessa in her world Sharron is the good part that was left of Alessa and while the movie offers some "closure" it is inncorrect in terms of sequals seeing as how in the game harry never found his daughter..he found anouther infant (i.e. another incarnation of Alessa) and in SH3 you find a painting titled 'St.Alessa mother of god,child of god" basicly saying she is both the one who births god and yet one of gods children and she may even be the god herself..hence three versions of herself, burned, innocent child,evil child...i assume thats what they were trying to get that across by using the three different versions of her in the movie.

when they leave and stay in the fog its simply because thats what Alessa wants...even Lisa Garland (the nurse) is there because Alessa wants her there.
however..it was a good movie and very limited on the GC with the exception of the barbed wire scene and the bugs..even the burning babies (hmm now why would alessa make monsters like that? ;D) were live actors with sfx makeup and a hint of CG... wonderful in these days of CG every single thing..glad to see that real SFX make-up artists still exist

the chief complaint i hear from gamers is that pyramid head is in the movie..he really dosen't belong seeing as how he is specific to one character in SH2. they screwed up the whole cult thing but hey, its confusing to people who have played the games..i had to play it a few times before i got it (and alot of plot analasys :P)...i can't help but hear monty python when they are shouting 'burn her! burn the witch!" ("build a bridge out of 'er!" hehehe) despite all the differences, it is a fine game adaptation, IMHO.

i hope that helps clear up a bit of confustion about it and i recomend silentpyramids plot analisys for those who want the psychological theories used by the game writers..its truely engrossing reading..i believe his work is still available on Ign.com.

Have a great day!

[The Demeter]

goregurl, thank you for taking the time that I wasnt willing to give to elaborate on the essence of Silent Hill. I did feel that the movie was lacking in some respects to the games. I believe that is simply because I enjoyed SIlent HIll 2 the most and the movie has very little to do with that. There were many things in it to be appriciated.

[Vodstok]

Wonderful explanantion. I feel much better now about the whole thing and i think capcom(?) owes you a comission becaus enow i want to play the agmes. seems to interesting not to.

[the_real_linda]

i will have a great day thank you....and thanks for making more people want to play the great series

[VampiricClown]

I thought this was a pretty good movie personally.

[evildemontoo]

Wow, did I start all this?

[goregurl]

no problem guys, im glad it made sense to someone other than me :D y'all gave me a happy reading the gratitude posts *takes a bow* hehehe

i just woke up and forgot who said it but my favorite was the second game too and as i understand it the director was (pre-release of course) planning on doing the whole series of games..but as i mentioned before, they may have painted themselves into a corner with this movie. heres to hoping we see james large and in charge on the big screen soon *crosses fingers*

i hope y'all enjoy the games, those who have decided to play em...i hope they thrill you like they do for me.

Have a nice day,
Miss C

[the_real_linda]

yeah evildemontoo kinda looks like you did........great film