Now that was a weird film

[Zero]

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[The_Return]

Didn't like it much. Perhaps it was because it was too strange, I will watch it again in a few years to see if it might make a little bit of sence.

[hammerfan]

I have yet to make it through the entire film. I think the longest I've gone with it is an hour. I usually end up falling asleep because I don't understand what's going on.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by hammerfan
I have yet to make it through the entire film. I think the longest I've gone with it is an hour. I usually end up falling asleep because I don't understand what's going on.

I fast forwarded through a large potion near the end that seemed to be nothing more than Kubrick showing off his special effects. If there was a voice over during that part, it may account for why I didnt understand the scene after it....

[scouse mac]

It dragged on in so many places, the scene with the space station spinning around to the music, fucking hell...GET ON WITH IT!

[hammerfan]

Originally posted by scouse mac
It dragged on in so many places, the scene with the space station spinning around to the music, fucking hell...GET ON WITH IT!

That's where they lose me every time!

[noctuary]

Don't get me wrong here, I love Kubrick's films... except for this one. 2001 is pretty much a perfect example of everything that was wrong with cinema in the 60s. Pretentious, dull, and just way too "Hey man, groovy visuals" for me. It just seems like one of those old "freak-out" movies with a larger budget.

[alkytrio666]

I liked the film as an achievement. I just think it's a beauty to watch, enough that I bought it when it went on sale. If you're in the right mood, it's really good- and the fact that no one really entirely knows what it's about is very cool, so that you can form your own opinions.

Not Kubrick's BEST, but it's still very good, in my opinion.

[Haunted]

Oh gawd, alky, I was just about to make fun of people who like that movie. I'm glad I read all of the posts first.

Most the people I've known (present company excluded) use it as their only chess piece in a conversation because THEY are, in fact, actually morons trying to sound... cultured is not the right word... can I use sophisticated, or is that too synonomous with cultured? You get my point anyway.

You're definitely not like that, alky. I'm not making fun of you, just some of the idiots I've come across in my lifetime.

[knife_fight]

I like it, but Dr. Strangelove will always be Kubrick's best imo.

I think I like 2001 b/c I've always liked movies that are EXTREMELY slow (I'm a big Jim Jarmusch fan) and where nothing really happens. I think it's refreshing to run across a movie that doesn't cater to, what I refer to as, "the Nintendo Generation" (not that 2001 wasn't made in 1968 or anything). to me it reflects a reckless, snotty, kinda "fuck you" attitude on the part of the filmmaker. and I like that.

[mothermold]

Originally posted by Zero
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Congrats on the 2000 in your oh-so-subtle way. :rolleyes:


And 2001 though a "classic" it may be is a true test of one's patience and to this day I don't understand the bulk of it.I hear it's good while your high.....so I'm told.

[Yellow Jacket]

Originally posted by Zero
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Yeah, well check out my posts bitch! :p Congratulations on your 2000th (now 2001) post! We should throw a party!

[slasherman]

..a masterpiece.....not a masterpost...:p

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by Haunted
Oh gawd, alky, I was just about to make fun of people who like that movie. I'm glad I read all of the posts first.

Most the people I've known (present company excluded) use it as their only chess piece in a conversation because THEY are, in fact, actually morons trying to sound... cultured is not the right word... can I use sophisticated, or is that too synonomous with cultured? You get my point anyway.

You're definitely not like that, alky. I'm not making fun of you, just some of the idiots I've come across in my lifetime.

Haha, don't worry about it, I definately understand where you're coming from and I DEFINATELY can see how this movie might not be liked by many people. It's just one of those guilty pleasures for me where I can just relax and enjoy a very slow, very scenic film.

[CaptHowdy579]

Stupid ass movie. And what's stupider is that you posted something about it.

[The_Return]

So, are you trying to get banned, or are you just an idiot?

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by CaptHowdy579
Stupid ass movie. And what's stupider is that you posted something about it.

And what's stupidist is you coming on this site and criticizing good members and perfectly reasonable threads with only 6 posts under your wing.

[CaptHowdy579]

@ Alky
I don't have wings, I jump really far. And I have more posts under my "wing" than that anyways.

@ Penguin Boy
An idiot is the one who's show's no aggression.:mad:

[Elvis_Christ]

Originally posted by knife_fight
I like it, but Dr. Strangelove will always be Kubrick's best imo.

I think I like 2001 b/c I've always liked movies that are EXTREMELY slow (I'm a big Jim Jarmusch fan) and where nothing really happens. I think it's refreshing to run across a movie that doesn't cater to, what I refer to as, "the Nintendo Generation" (not that 2001 wasn't made in 1968 or anything). to me it reflects a reckless, snotty, kinda "fuck you" attitude on the part of the filmmaker. and I like that.

Agree with you totally dude.

Whats your favorite Jarmusch film?

[Zero]

Originally posted by CaptHowdy579
@ Alky
I don't have wings, I jump really far. And I have more posts under my "wing" than that anyways.

@ Penguin Boy
An idiot is the one who's show's no aggression.:mad:

alky and return - thanks for the defense much appreciated

although i am phyiscally incapable of being insulted by ANYONE who has Dee Snider in their avatar - - - i mean, comeon what's he gonna do - jump out of my closet in eyeliner and blush and yell "I WANNA ROCK"


sheesh

[Zombee]

Im not advocating drug use but back in my rowdy days this flic was quite enjoyable while eating blotter or shroom tops. Circa 93.

[PR3SSUR3]

What an awesome film, which I only saw for the first time a few weeks ago.

2001 is pure cinema... I could swear I heard my DVD player mutter something like: "thank Christ - you have delivered me..." when the disc was slotted in.

"The Dawn of Man"... sure, men in monkeysuits, but what a statement! The stunning first appearance of the monolith... the ape's first notion of "experimentation" with the bones... then their use as weapons, all leading up to the stunning jump cut of several millenia into space.

The brilliant, silent space-scenes (for there is no sound in space, kids)... the chilling turning point for HAL as it kills the crew one-by-one, and the sacrifice of the floating astronaut behind the sealed doors.

The film may be "slow", the "message" rather ill-defined... but if you can try (hard as it may be for today's young audiences) and not take the challenging experience as a jab in the ribs but rather as an idea of mankind's cosmic future... there are many rewards in this movie.

Consider the extra-terrestrial implications of the monolith, while you marvel at the cinematography.

[Soloman Kane]

Originally posted by Haunted
Oh gawd, alky, I was just about to make fun of people who like that movie. I'm glad I read all of the posts first.

Most the people I've known (present company excluded) use it as their only chess piece in a conversation because THEY are, in fact, actually morons trying to sound... cultured is not the right word... can I use sophisticated, or is that too synonomous with cultured? You get my point anyway.

You're definitely not like that, alky. I'm not making fun of you, just some of the idiots I've come across in my lifetime. Unlike the majority of people who claim to like the movie. I actually do & not because of some great cosmic claim on man's destiny. It's simply a great movie to pop in have a beer & read the book. The movie goes on forever but thats part of the charm. It simply looks great. To understand the film go herehttp://www.kubrick2001.com/ That is if you've got the time. Again maybe you should get a beer & some chips. :p

[PR3SSUR3]

The film has been utterly inspirational to all science-fiction efforts in it's wake.

[scouse mac]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
The film has been utterly inspirational to all science-fiction efforts in it's wake.

I would disagree with that.

The dawn of man is good, the whole HAL thing was very good but the film overall was too far up its own arse for me to consider it a great film. I can understand why the style and feel of the film appeals to some and not others, but its not for me.

[knife_fight]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
Agree with you totally dude.

Whats your favorite Jarmusch film?

I guess I would have to say Dead Man, although I like all of em.

[Elvis_Christ]

Originally posted by knife_fight
I guess I would have to say Dead Man, although I like all of em.

That is a goody. Mine would probably be Mystery Train or Down By Law. But yeh you're right there all pretty good. Haven't seen Coffee and Cigarettes yet tho I've been slacking off on the flicks that don't have axe-weilding pyschopaths in them :)

[knife_fight]

Coffee and Cigarettes is probly my least favorite, although it definitely has its moments. Mystery Train and Down by Law are what turned me on to Jim Jarmusch, so I've seen em both a whole bunch. I guess it's just that I've been into Dead Man more recently. Mystery Train and Down by Law are fuckin classics.

[Elvis_Christ]

I saw bits and pieces of C&C on a tape that came out awhile back but can't really remember it.... I'll have to get off my ass and check it out.

I really dig Ghost Dog even tho a bunch of people hate it (don't get that at all?!) the gangster guy rappin Public Enemy makes me fuckin' laugh my ass off :D

Dead Man would've been the first film of his I saw some really quirky shit in it and the soundtrack is amazing. Easily one the best modern Westerns.
Checked out Down By Law when I was goin' thru my Tom Waits worshippin' phase and got hooked on Jarmusch's style.

He does amazing dialogue without being over the top and in your face like Tarantino.

[Zombee]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
I saw bits and pieces of C&C on a tape that came out awhile back but can't really remember it.... I'll have to get off my ass and check it out.

I really dig Ghost Dog even tho a bunch of people hate it (don't get that at all?!) the gangster guy rappin Public Enemy makes me fuckin' laugh my ass off :D

Dead Man would've been the first film of his I saw some really quirky shit in it and the soundtrack is amazing. Easily one the best modern Westerns.
Checked out Down By Law when I was goin' thru my Tom Waits worshippin' phase and got hooked on Jarmusch's style.

He does amazing dialogue without being over the top and in your face like Tarantino.

Ghost Dog kicks major a-hole.. As mentioned before Forest is one my favorite "uderated actors".

[Zero]

Yes yes yes - - but what about ME@!!??!?!?!?!? (the point of this whole thread was to give you all a chance to show your admiration and adoration.. .. ahh poo nuts!)

I dig Jarmusch as well - loved the older stuff Down By Law, Mystery Train (probably my favorite). I thought Ghost Dog was the best plot-driven film. C&C was good in episodes, though I felt disappointed by some of the vignettes.

But by far my FAVORITE Jarmusch film is Night on Earth - LOVE LOVE LOVE that film.

Has anyone seen Broken Flowers?? I keep passing it by in the video store but feel kind of guilty for not picking it up.

[Elvis_Christ]

You get all the attention a smoking monkey needs. Don't you know that shit went outta vogue in the 50s :)

[Zero]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
You get all the attention a smoking monkey needs. Don't you know that shit went outta vogue in the 50s :)

i would quit it . . .but its such a strong addiction.
i confess, i've got a 'monkey' on my back!

:D

[scouse mac]

You could always pull on something else...




http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/nmc1/3510.jpg

[Zero]

Originally posted by scouse mac
You could always pull on something else...




http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/nmc1/3510.jpg

thanks - that' s the kind of "disturbing" that will stick with me all day. . . (of course, that is representative of the proportionate size of a monkey's penis and since I'm 5'10 - - - you do the math!!)

:D

[scouse mac]

Originally posted by Zero
thanks - that' s the kind of "disturbing" that will stick with me all day. . . (of course, that is representative of the proportionate size of a monkey's penis and since I'm 5'10 - - - you do the math!!)

:D

LOL. Good recovery!

[Zero]

Originally posted by scouse mac
LOL. Good recovery!

[PR3SSUR3]

The dawn of man is good, the whole HAL thing was very good but the film overall was too far up its own arse for me to consider it a great film. I can understand why the style and feel of the film appeals to some and not others, but its not for me.

Consider that this film was made in 1969, when sci-fi was generally restricted to low-budget productions - yet the film still looks unique and awe-inspiring today.

2001 should provoke your contemplation of its many challenging scenes, as you ponder Kubrick and Clarke's facts of the birth of mankind and their theories about where we are heading.

Are such startling visions and ideas destined to be reduced to being "anal" in the minds of those who consider the biggest questions with nothing less than contempt?

[scouse mac]

Consider that this film was made in 1969, when sci-fi was generally restricted to low-budget productions - yet the film still looks unique and awe-inspiring today.

This is true, there aren't many films with the look and feel of 2001.



2001 should provoke your contemplation of its many challenging scenes, as you ponder Kubrick and Clarke's facts of the birth of mankind and their theories about where we are heading.
[/B]

This is where we differ. This film clearly spoke to you and inspired you in some ways (hope Im not being presumptuous?). I just didn't get that, it didn't do anything like that for me. I felt the message of mans elevation to something higher was a bit pretentious.
It probably doesn't help that I am a cynical bastard at times! :)

[PR3SSUR3]

That's what I'm getting at: it seems the bolder the vision, the more open is the artist to calls of ostentatious self-aggrandizing - particularly from those who cannot counter with an alternative vision of their own for such a mystifying and intriguing question of where mankind is heading and what might control us.

To sum up: it's tuff at the top.

:cool: