The Story Of My Suspension.

[RavageRitual]

The reason im writing this is, I want to know what everyone here thinks about how I acted upon this. Do you think I dod the right thing or was I so wrong with what I did that im a sick fucker?

Anyway...the story behind my suspension...

Ive had this friend named Tonee since pre-school, shes the sweetest girl ever and I love her like my own sister. The only thing is , Tonee is over weight , and she is very self conscious about it.

This is this one guy named Brett that goes to school with us, and ever since day 1 ( about 5 months ago) Brett has made comments towards tonee like

You will always be ugly
You will never loose weight
Your a fatass

Tonee and I told the teacher on more than one occasion about the problem. But he never did anything about it.

Thier would be days that Brett's harrasment towards Tonee would make her so down that she would go into the Girl's locker room and cry for the rest of the class period.

It wasnt untill 2 days ago that I finnaly said to myself, If I dont do anything about this. This will never stop.

So I trapped Brett in this one room, and took the closest thing to me ( which happened to be a pear of tongs.) I took the tongs and a grabbed the skin on his arm and ripped it off. Brett immediatly started bleeding, I decided I would attack him with the tongs about 2 or 3 more times, then I decided to quit.

To make this already long story shorter, I ended up being suspended from school for god knows how long. They took pictures of his bloody arm and are currently decided whether or not to press charges against me. My instructor is on thin ice, because his boss found out how this whole thing could have been solved months ago if he would have done something about it when we originally came to him.

Fortunatly, Im backed up pretty well by all the girls. They all say he deserved what I did to him. But I dont know if I agree. Im paying the price now.

I just want to know what all of you think about this situation.

-Sam

[The STE]

fuck 'im. You'll have to deal with some repurcussions, but in the end he deserved what he got

[filmmaker2]

I think you should have talked to someone besides your instructor, if you felt the situation was not being handled properly by your instructor. Just my two cents.

[GorePhobia]

In my honest opinion you should have punched him in the face a few times. Would have been better and less severe on your part. Ripping his skin off makes you look crazy lol. I would have uppercut him and that would have been the end of it.

Just my opinion

[The STE]

actually, the crazy thing works in your favor, cause there's a 99.9% chance that he's not going to fuck with her anymore.

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by The STE
fuck 'im. You'll have to deal with some repurcussions, but in the end he deserved what he got

I'm with STE here. Any sick fuck that would go around making comments to hurt people intentionally should get exactly what you gave him if not worse.

If that had been someone saying shit about my girlfriend or any of my female friends for that matter(males can fend for themselves), They wouldn't have been able to walk away very well. And all of hell know's, don't lay a hand on any of them. :mad:

If anyone's sick for giving people what they deserve, it would be me.

[Despare]

Back in high school I used to fight daily, I loved fighting for some reason. Hell I had the record in school suspension days for a while. Bottom line is, as long as you move past it your fine. I grew up, realized fighting wasn't all it was cracked up to be, and everything turned out fine. Is this your first incident? If so I'm sure you'll be just fine. They have a rule about blood now in my old school so I'm told that it's an automatic suspension if somebody bleeds or some crap, same there? Anyway, once it blows over, you have your few days off, it should all be fine and I think you did the right thing only I would've threw a few knees or punches because hey, you're in trouble at that point already right? Just don't let this thing keep going, you don't want it to continue you know? His freinds come up and harass you causing more crap... these things can get ugly. Just relax on your days off, do your homework, and put it behind you. Got any pictures of his arm?

[Babygurl20]

I believe that you went a little to far. I agree that the asshole should have gotten a good beating, but ripping his skin off is a bit drastic. So I am gonna say that you did good standing up for her, but you are also getting what you deserve for what you did to him. That is just my opinion.

[RavageRitual]

Thanks everyone for your comments.

Filmmaker- Yea ive already been told by the principal that I should have went to him about the situation instead of my instructor.

Despare- This is my first time I have done anything to land me Out OF School Suspension. I usually have in school.
Also, I know my mom has some pictures of it under her name so ill try to snoop around a lil bit and look for em.

[cheebacheeba]

Take it from a guy that was expelled over one violent incident after maintaining an almost perfect,...well...noit almost perfect, but an "ok" kinda record - If this shit doesn't get you expelled, which in all honesty, it could, even after a suspension...mind your temper.
Attacking the guy on school grounds was stupid, I don't care what the guy did...for that matter...the girl shouldn't take to heart what a fuckwit like this says, you should've told her this instead of acting upon it. Frankly, if she values his opinion on her physical condition, it's on her. You shouldn't have acted on it, in all honesty, and bringing a weapon into the mix is a whole 'nother shitload of potential trouble...however, sometimes you don't think when you're angry, I get that, and now you probably get it too - I trust this will be different in the future and maybe you'll think things over some.
For future reference, if you're planning on attacking someone, I'd suggest you do it outside school grounds, with minimal witnesses.

Think things through.
I hope this ends better for you than it did me.

[1beastieibe]

:mad:

[1beastieibe]

Yeah maybe the skin ripping was a bit odd, but whatever. When I was in High School my best friend who was 5'1 and 90 pounds who could not defend herself was picked on by a much larger girl because she thought she might steal her boyfriend. Well one day after school she jumped her beat the shit out of her, and locked her in her shed. When I found out I drug her outta her house by her hair, took her outside and bashed her face in the sidewalk till it was almost unreconizable. The neighbors called the cops, and I was taken to a juvinelle detion center. Luckily my mom was cool about it, and witness's lied a little for me, and they also took in to consideration she locked my friend in her shed. So I got off pretty easy.

Needless to say she never messed with us again, and NO ONE ever messed with my friend, or even looked at her funny. It is still a talked about event 10 years later, and I dont regret any of it! Even I f I would have been in a lot more trouble, it would have been worth it!

[RavageRitual]

Thanks Cheeba for the comment, I know what I did was stupid and I really regret doing it in school

And Beastie...you are lucky lol

[The_Return]

Be sure to tell us how this turns out man.

Id give my two cents, but it would basically echo a few other members. Good job, he deserved it 100%, maybe you went an eensy weensy bit too far...yadda yadda yadda.

Hopefully this doesnt turn out too bad for you man...

[RavageRitual]

Well, im suspended from school for 1 week, This monday will be my 3rd day of suspension. Im also grounded at home, but that doesnt bother me that much because I can sit here and Post. But I think I got away pretty lucky. They were looking at filing charges. And I got away with it.

[Despare]

I still want to know more about this skin ripping though. Are we talking a big chunk of skin or did the tongs squeeze too hard and pinch a little skin off?

[zomb5150]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
In my honest opinion you should have punched him in the face a few times. Would have been better and less severe on your part. Ripping his skin off makes you look crazy lol. I would have uppercut him and that would have been the end of it.

Just my opinion

Dude....You attacked someone with a pair of tongs:confused:
I'd have to agree with GorePhobia, You should've just punched Him.

Kids these days.:(

[Posher778]

I think you did the right thing by standing up at him and attacking him about it... but why tongs? shoulda just kicked his ass.

[scouse mac]

You definately did the right thing with regards to the bully fuck. The only problem with things like this is that you made a conscious decision to use a weapon instead of going with the 'it all happened so fast I dont know what I was doing' punches. If anything else should come of this just remember that no matter how big or tough they are, one swift knee in the happy sacks and they drop like anyone else.

[Soloman Kane]

Your young enough where none of this will appear on your record. Sit back relax & bask in the knowledge that you helped build character for some asshole who should have had his ass kicked before this. Maybe he'll think again before making. He won't look at a pair of tongs the same again.

[Marroe]

So...a gun shot, or a stabbing would be equivelent to a punch in the mouth?

[Marroe]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Well, not that drastic. But in my high school, that would have been an option.:p
Tongs, pocket knife, straight razor, or just an old fashioned ass kicking. None of those things makes a difference. You included everything but the gun:confused:

[Marroe]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Well ya cant kill the kid yet. He has to go through the suffering that he put that poor girl through first. If he doesnt learn after that then put a cap in him.:p They're kids!! In high school! Very impressionable...make a good impresssion on them and they will change. Tell em to go shoot or stab someone and they just might.

[filmmaker2]

Just another two cents from me here, but I have noticed...that people are really casual about encouraging other people to violence. In my opinion it's very irresponsible to do that. This is a horror message board; discussing the violence in horror films with some enthusiasm, well that's one thing. It's fictional. Clamoring for and encouraging real-life violence? Sorry, but I don't approve.

[monalisa]

Now this is just my opinion, but what would have been really great is if Ravage held the kid while the girl he was picking on kicked the little fuckwad's ass.

[Yellow Jacket]

The kid deserved what he got! Sure, maybe ripping his skin off was a little over the top (I would of bashed his face into the wall a few times until he bled), and you should do your time (not in jail though). If something happens to you on this one, and we won't see you in awhile, we'll miss you and I'll wish you the best of luck! Just remember: next time, use your fists (or the wall), not tongs.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by zomb5150
Dude....You attacked someone with a pair of tongs:confused:


ahaha

[RavageRitual]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Tongs, pocket knife, straight razor, or just an old fashioned ass kicking. None of those things makes a difference. RR stood up for what he believed in. IMO it doesnt matter what methods were used. This little punk walked around like he was better than anyone and needed to know he was just like the rest of us. Maybe he needed a little disfigurement to see what he was putting your friend through. There's no such a thing as drastic measures when it comes to people like that. He wouldnt have made through year one in my high school. He should count his blessings that all he lost was some skin and blood. Ravage, ya got suspended, grounded and almost had charges filed against you. Small price to pay for being a loyal friend. You have all my respect. Not that you need it or that its a big deal or anything, but I'd be your wing man any day.

Thanks alot, Your comments have really helped me feel alot better about this. Im glad thiers people like you that understand the whole senario, and understand my reasoning behind my action.

Originally posted by Marroe
They're kids!! In high school! Very impressionable...make a good impresssion on them and they will change. Tell em to go shoot or stab someone and they just might.

Im a little smarter than that Marroe...


Just to give everyone an update.

Both Tonee and Emelia ( The two girls I was sticking up for that suffered from Brett's harrassment against them) told thier parents and both Tonee, Emi, and Both of thier parents support me, and are very thankful that I put a stop to the harrassment. We are having a hearing sometime next week where I will have the girls and thier parents both supporting me.

We will be addressing how the problem could have been solved months before if the instructor of the class would have done something about it when the problems were presented to him by me, emi, and tonee. Hopefully things will go well.

[monalisa]

He was picking on 2 girls? Well then, picture this, you trap him in the room, both girls kick his ass and your standing in the corner, pointing and snickering and ready to lend a help hand (or tong) if necessary. Bwahahahahahaha! Sorry, I'm probably not helping.:)

Anyway, hope it all works out for you. Good luck and never give up!

[RavageRitual]

Thanks Mona. ;)

[Marroe]

Why not just beat the snot outa him? Ripping his skin off with tongs is a BIT unusual. What you shoulda done is punch him in the face at the first word of this that came outa his mouth...then with the embarassment, I'm sure it wouldn't have gone as far as it did.
I dunno... in my opinion, unless they did something to actually physically harm those involved in an extreme manner, ripping someones skin off is a little morbid to me. This kid could have scars for the rest of his life, and for what? Calling someone fat? Who the fuck hasn't been picked on at least once in their lives? I know I have. And I also know that any little twat calling me, or a friend a name isn't gonna get me expelled from school, fired from a job, ect. I know both you, and him will realize how rediculous both parts of this were when you get older. Only problem is you wont have to think about it every time you look at your arm.

So don't say you're "a little smarter than that". Obviously no one knows what they're capable of until they take action.

[stubbornforgey]

When you do something that draws blood..
is a little too much..
Your awesome for sticking up for your freind but em afraid ..a bullys a bully ..no matter how you look at it...
You would been more helpful if you could teach your freind to gain a little more self confidence in herself or self esteem .

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by monalisa
Now this is just my opinion, but what would have been really great is if Ravage held the kid while the girl he was picking on kicked the little fuckwad's ass.

LMAO! I wouldn't mind a girl kicking my ass. :cool:

[scouse mac]

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Just another two cents from me here, but I have noticed...that people are really casual about encouraging other people to violence. In my opinion it's very irresponsible to do that. This is a horror message board; discussing the violence in horror films with some enthusiasm, well that's one thing. It's fictional. Clamoring for and encouraging real-life violence? Sorry, but I don't approve.

I dont think anyone here is really condoning violence but there is, in situations like this, where a line must be drawn. Unfortunately, bullies only seem to understand the language of violence and it seems clear that this one would've got the message. Would you agree that most people would do similar if they felt it was the only way to help a friend?

[filmmaker2]

Yeah, see, again--and I know I'm saying this from the standpoint of someone who hasn't been in school for twenty years or so at least--it's VERY EASY to sit here at your keyboard and pat someone on the back for a horrible mistake they made. It's also very easy for Ravage to say thanks for all this, because Ravage prefers not to admit that Ravage might have done something...unwise. And I'll tell you why that's the case, at least as I believe it...it's because really learning something is painful and difficult.

One of the hardest things in the world is to look at one's own rough-hewn nature, to acknowledge that maybe as people we're not perfect, that we're capable of making mistakes.

From my perspective, it's upsetting reading all this cheering on, plus it makes the forum look like a bunch of idiotic macho high school students. No, I'm not saying it was "right" for that bully to say those cruel things to that girl. But look at who's actually suffering the greatest consequences: Ravage. And look at who was made into a victim: The bully. The tables turned, but they turned...the wrong way.

It's not bad to make a mistake. That's human nature, and it is part of how people develop into themselves. But it can be bad not to LEARN from a mistake, and by encouraging Ravage, and telling Ravage that what Ravage did was the "right thing," you are making it very difficult for Ravage to learn.

So please, take a minute to think about what you post.

[scouse mac]

I agree that sitting here typing out random odds and sods its easy to act up a false bravado and 'devil may care' attitude to things but in this case Ravage had already done the deed. And seeing as Ravage appears (though posts on a forum is a very thin basis to assess people) to be a level headed person, who I feel would've thought things through.

My sister was bullied at school and it only stopped (despite teachers being informed several times) when she kicked the bully's arse after school one day.

Im not a viloent person myself, and would never condone violence for viloence sake, but Im a firm believer in standing up for yourself and your friends/family (right or wrong).

[monalisa]

And look at who was made into a victim: The bully.

Frankly, I think it's OK to let the bully feel like a victim for once. Although what I was suggesting is that Ravage should have helped the girls kick the Bully's ass. That way the bully gets to feel like a victim and it teaches the girls to stand up for themselves. Granted, violence is not the answer in a lot of cases, but like someone up here said, violence is about the only thing bullies understand. And I am speaking from the perspective of someone who also has not been in school for 20 or so years. Again, just my opinion.

[stubbornforgey]

But what happens when somebody is being accused of being a bully when in fact ...they are not..

My 14 yr old neice is a tall mutha and quite stocky.
Last thursday a parent came to my house ..her daughter accused my neice of beating the crap out of her the day before..
which wouldve been hard on that perspective as my neice was home sick all day .
The following day..my neice goes to school and was sent home with a note ..'you have been accused of hitting a child ...blah blah ..this school does not take bulyying lightly..so you must remove yourself from our grounds ..etc...trespassing ..blah blah..

I take the note and my neice back to the school and asks..WTF..
It turned out ..this little bitch wrote a complaint to the counsellor ..saying ..my neice beat her up ..etc. and that she was afraid to attent school ..ok..
I explain to the counsellor ..it wouldve been impossible as my neice was home sick..!!!!!
They call the accuser in and shes all giggly and girlyish..and was like..
'noooo''tee hee'...i never wrote that..tee hee'..'FUCKIN A'..
em thinking its over ..although no apology was forthcoming..
FARK SAKES..
this morning (monday)..my neice is cornered by this little cunts 40 yr old uncle ..in the field..and threatens her..
Words to the effect of..'stay the fuck away from my neice or you will have me to deal with..you so much as lay a finger on her again..blah blah'

My neice comes running home ..bawling her eyes out..shit scared..
this time i go and what i had to say was not pretty .

[ItsAlive75]

Dude, its high school. Go get somebody with authority to handle the situation...

Damn, wait til college to start rippin' skin off people.

[RavageRitual]

Filmmaker - I understand what you are saying

and I know what I did was by far an immature way to take action. If I could take it back, I would tell someone like the police about the incident, instead of taking the situation into my own hands.

I do understand right from wrong. And we all make mistakes. I should have thought through my actions before I took action.

[filmmaker2]

You know what's really weird...I was thinking about this...

Seems to me that the really strange experiences we have are the ones that end up developing some of our better talents as people. They give us that wide-view context. Having a strange experience that makes us think, every once in a while, is a really good thing.

[stubbornforgey]

Just a query here..
how did this help the 2 girls concerned??

[RavageRitual]

well he for sure isnt going to pick on them again

[cheebacheeba]

well he for sure isnt going to pick on them again
Actually..I wouldn't be so sure. It's impossible to calculate the exact effect what you did (in retaliation) could have on someone.
Sure, he COULD decide not to be a fuckhead anymore...or, chances are one of you or your female friends have really got it coming to them, and this time, there's a real potential that one or more of you could be on the receiving end of weapons this time.
I hope it all blows over.

[stubbornforgey]

yes..you cannot be certain as this guy has mates..
bullies always have mates..and you drew blood ..so chances are ..they are going to want revenge for this.
Hopefully it will blow over as cheebs said.

[RavageRitual]

bring on the revenge, I dont care.

[Despare]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Dude, its high school. Go get somebody with authority to handle the situation...


I don't know about you but back when I was in high school nobody of "authority" ever did anything about these situations. And Ravage said himself, Tonee and I told the teacher on more than one occasion about the problem. But he never did anything about it. Sometimes in life you've got to fight, when and where should be a little better thought out in this situation but it seems like it needed to be done. Although in all honesty he was just calling these girls names and stuff... is he smaller than you Ravage? I stood up for a few people in school but it was only after they were physically attacked. If I were that kids friend it would turn into a war. "So wait, he pulled your skin off because you called a couple girls some names? You didn't do anything physical to provoke him?" And then when you came back to school you'd have a new enemy. All I can say for sure is that your friend Tonee should grow some thicker skin because life's going to throw a hell of a lot more at her than this kid calling her names.


EDIT: I still want to know more about tongs ripping skin, I'm looking at some right now and they look ok for moving salad around maybe even a hot dog but nothing weaping like.

[RavageRitual]

Despare-

About the tongs, they were just a normal pair of kitchen tongs. Werent sharp, but werent rounded. What I did was I gripped his skin with the tongs, sqeezed extremely hard, and ripped it off. It bled.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Despare
I don't know about you but back when I was in high school nobody of "authority" ever did anything about these situations.

There's always someone to tell.

[The STE]

Originally posted by RavageRitual
Despare-

About the tongs, they were just a normal pair of kitchen tongs. Werent sharp, but werent rounded. What I did was I gripped his skin with the tongs, sqeezed extremely hard, and ripped it off. It bled.

sounds like the guy's the one who needs thicker skin

[The_Return]

At my old school, if you "ratted" on anyone, you both had to go to the principal's office, she'd do jack shit, make the victim look like he was in the wrong, then send us back to class.:rolleyes:

Eventully, I tackled the guy over a desk. He never said another word.

EDIT- Various typos

[Yellow Jacket]

Originally posted by The_Return
At my old school, if you "ratted" on anyone, you both had to go to the principal's office, she'd do jack shit, make the victim look like he was in the wrong, then send us back to class.:rolleyes:

Eventully, I tacked the guy over a desk. He never said another word.

I used to get that shit all of the time! That's why I just ignored the asshole and got back to my life (and I din't whip out a pair of tongs and go crazy on his ass!).

[RavageRitual]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
But I will lose my mind when it comes to those I love. I black out when someone I love is being fucked with and I cant help it.


Im right there with ya.

[stubbornforgey]

Yeah ..thats true too ..
My late sister was fat..
em not talking mildly..em talking FUCKING
FAT.
She had a lot of freinds and got on reasonably well with everybody.
She also had a heart of gold and most ppl adored her.
Well this new kid started ..
she was small ..petite..blonde..very beautiful and very much a bitch..
She started off with small comments about my sister..like ...whoa..move aside,,your blocking the sun..crap like that.
Now those that knew us ..knew we were sisters ..other than that..not many had an idea..as my sibling was white...em a lightish brown.
Anyways..the comments got nastier and were getting nastier by the day..
all of my sisters mates were warning her off...warning her off...but NAH..she just carried on..
her and her newfound group of little fucking princesses.
When the teachers spoke to her about it..she would ..flick her hair ...bat her eyelash and walk away..laughing with her mates.
My sister could've...but wouldn't retaliate and demanded that i leave it alone.
Well...it came to a point at sports oneday ..when my sister walked past..this fuck was yelling ..boom ba ba boom ba ba boom..or roll up roll up...see the fattest person on earth try and run..'First time my sister cried..!!!
Back in class this fuck was dancing on her desk and showing off to her fans..and without even thinking..i walked in as cool as you please and kicked the desk legs out from under her,
jumped on her and punched the fuckery out of her..
I had most of faculty on me in 5 minutes flat ..not to mention my sister who had heard the commotion and figured it was me.
When this cunt stood up..i knocked her down ..again and again and again..
when they held my arms ..i kicked out and got her fair in the stomach.Winding her..almost killing her...
yes i was in a blind rage..
I was expelled from school at a cool age of 10.
I had to attend anger management classes and because of my age..couldn't be prosecuted.
Two weeks after that my sister was knocked over by a drunken driver ..who had driven up onto the footpath while we were playing outside .
She shoved me out of the way and took the full brunt of the car..
she died instantly :(
So yeah..i know about blind rage when somebody you love is hurt.

heres the song i dedicated to her..
kid sister
she was only seven when she was called to heaven
that little kid sister of mine
We used to play together ..
thru fair and stormy weather..
that little kid sister of mine..
they needed a new star up yonder..
and they couldn't find
a brighter light to shine..
God decided she was meant for
a star and so they sent for
that little kid sister of mine..
'sob'

[Babygurl20]

Originally posted by 1beastieibe
Yeah maybe the skin ripping was a bit odd, but whatever. When I was in High School my best friend who was 5'1 and 90 pounds who could not defend herself was picked on by a much larger girl because she thought she might steal her boyfriend. Well one day after school she jumped her beat the shit out of her, and locked her in her shed. When I found out I drug her outta her house by her hair, took her outside and bashed her face in the sidewalk till it was almost unreconizable. The neighbors called the cops, and I was taken to a juvinelle detion center. Luckily my mom was cool about it, and witness's lied a little for me, and they also took in to consideration she locked my friend in her shed. So I got off pretty easy.

Needless to say she never messed with us again, and NO ONE ever messed with my friend, or even looked at her funny. It is still a talked about event 10 years later, and I dont regret any of it! Even I f I would have been in a lot more trouble, it would have been worth it!

you can not really mean that??? What is wrong with everyone now days. I'm just confused, but do you really get your balls off by watching other people bleed and potentially killing them?? And you wrote this whole post as if you are bragging. I'm not trying to be anyones mother here, but it sounds to me like you, your parents, and the witnesses who lied for you need a good ass beating. I think that your friend could have fended for herself, matter of factly I think she should have. That once again is just my opinion. How old are you now anyway, since you still don't regret it, it sounds like you still have a little more growing up to do.

[Babygurl20]

You need to watch this movie if you get off on beating down chicks.........................@beastie