To Be Respected...

[RavageRitual]

This is a thread Idea I got from STE's thread "Respected Horror Movies?"

What Im asking for is out of all the Horror movies that have come out in the last 5-10 years will be most respected in say the year 2025....

Discuss!

[The_Return]

I can definatly see Dead and Breakfast and Shaun of the Dead being highly respected for being a breath of fresh into into the dying genre. Also, Saw, partially for the same reason, and partially for re-popularising "torture". Without Saw, there'd be no Hostel, no Wolf Creek.

[RavageRitual]

Originally posted by The_Return
I can definatly see Dead and Breakfast and Shaun of the Dead being highly respected for being a breath of fresh into into the dying genre. Also, Saw, partially for the same reason, and partially for re-popularising "torture". Without Saw, there'd be no Hostel, no Wolf Creek.

Good Ideas, I thought alot about The Devils Rejects as being one.

I agree with you alot on Dead And Breakfast, absolutly amazing independent film, and i deffinatly think it will be remembered.

The whole Saw series will also be remembered, Its turning into the next biggest franchise.

[The STE]

Kairo
Three...Extremes
Identity
Dark Water
American Psycho
Shadow of the Vampire

[The_Return]

Originally posted by RavageRitual
Good Ideas, I thought alot about The Devils Rejects as being one..


I actually havent bothered to see Rejects yet. To be honest, it doesnt interest me much. Sure, Ill see it eventually...but Im not in a rush.

[RavageRitual]

Originally posted by The STE
Kairo
American Psycho


Good Ones:D

[The_Return]

Originally posted by The STE

Identity


You really think so? It wasnt a bad film, but I wouldnt really say it was influential, or even overly memorable for that matter.

[The STE]

I honestly and fully believe that in 10 or 20 years that Kairo will be viewed as the cinematic masterpiece it is

[RavageRitual]

Originally posted by The STE
I honestly and fully believe that in 10 or 20 years that Kairo will be viewed as the cinematic masterpiece it is

I hope your right.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by The STE
I honestly and fully believe that in 10 or 20 years that Kairo will be viewed as the cinematic masterpiece it is

Cant wait for the R1 DVD release. Feb. 21st, I do believe. Really looking forward to seeing it.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by The_Return
Cant wait for the R1 DVD release. Feb. 21st, I do believe. Really looking forward to seeing it.

I've been wating months, never had a release date til' about a month ago. So I'm psyched.

[The STE]

I haven't been as eagerly awaiting it, since I've already got a copy

[jenna26]

Originally posted by The_Return
You really think so? It wasnt a bad film, but I wouldnt really say it was influential, or even overly memorable for that matter.

The only things about Identity I found remotely interesting was one death scene and John Cusack. Not impressed by that movie much at all.

I would say The Devil's Rejects also, because to me, that film is the strongest indication that horror is getting back on track after what the Scream trilogy managed to do to the horror genre....lol....I also think American Psycho is a good choice, based on Christian Bale's excellent performance.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Don't have anything that hasn't been said already, except for maybe,sorta,kinda...Tesis('96).

[Skaboy]

Original Japanese films that Hollywood seem so keen to jump on and remake: Ringu, Dark Water etc. ought to be remembered in years to come.

I've not seen Final Destination mentioned thus far. I felt that quite a defining movie and certainly one that I'll go back to in years to come ("bus!").

6th Sense: definitely memorable, especially for the twist.

28 Days Later: great British film-making.

Dog Soldiers: ditto.

[AUSTIN316426808]

The Sixth Sense popped in my head too but it's not horror.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by The_Return
You really think so? It wasnt a bad film, but I wouldnt really say it was influential, or even overly memorable for that matter.


i loved the movie identity - but hardly anyone knows it.


i think a number of the J-Horror films - in general will always be respected - if nothing else but a force that rejuvinated the horror film industry and took it in a much needed direction away from the slasher film.

so on that note :

the 6th Sense ... which was also incredibly influential.

(and i think it falls into the horror bin - after all - it's a ghost story)

[Skaboy]

I must admit, I was wondering whether it could count as a horror.

It certainly has a couple of horror moments but what would you class it as? Supernatural thriller? What are the boundaries or criteria that define a film as being in the horror genre?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Skaboy
I must admit, I was wondering whether it could count as a horror.

It certainly has a couple of horror moments but what would you class it as? Supernatural thriller? What are the boundaries or criteria that define a film as being in the horror genre?



I think it's categorized as a drama thriller. It did have infulence on the horror genre and there's ghost and a number of scare scenes, so I guess there's no problem with calling it horror.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by urgeok


(and i think it falls into the horror bin - after all - it's a ghost story)



Just because there's ghost,vampires ect. in a film doesn't automatically make it horror.

Ex:Van Helsing- it had Frankenstein,the wolfman,Dracula, vampires and Mr. Hyde but it's an action movie. Although there might be a couple, I can't vividly remember one scare.

[Skaboy]

You're right: IMDb lists primary genres as Drama / Thriller. It also lists:

Hanged Family
Therapeutic Alliance
Child Psychologist
Stuttering
Able To See The Dead
Spiral Staircase
Twist In The End
Mother Son Relationship
Urination Scene
Blockbuster
Paranormal
Misfit
Supernatural
Poison
Extrasensory Perception
Ghost
Fear
Hanged Child
Death
Single Mother
Wine Cellar
Zoloft
Psychological Drama
Hitchcockian
Sixth Sense
Writer Director
Realization
School Play
Compassion
Hero
Human Relationship
Love
Redemption
Tragedy
Able To Hear The Dead
Blood
Bully
Bus Ride
Child
Chilled Air
Church
Enlightenment
Funeral
Hidden Camera
Kid
Loving
Misunderstanding
Sanctuary
School
Secret
Solemn
Soul
Spiritual
Spirit
Suspense
Switch
Teacher
Toy
VCR Tape
Vomiting
Christ Allegory
Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy
Philadelphia Pennsylvania
Psychiatrist
Pennsylvania
Child In Peril
Conspiracy
Director Cameo
Filicide
Flashback Sequence
Murderess
Road Accident
Sex With The Dead

No mention of horror :confused:

[urgeok]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Just because there's ghost,vampires ect. in a film doesn't automatically make it horror.

Ex:Van Helsing- it had Frankenstein,the wolfman,Dracula, vampires and Mr. Hyde but it's an action movie. Although there might be a couple, I can't vividly remember one scare.


i got into this with someone before .. cant remember who ..

its my personal filing mentality ... i pop anything fantastical or supernatural into the horror bucket. (otherwise i cant find shit in my collection)

you'll find that a lot of horror guides do the same thing though ..
they are even more rediculous .. including stuff even i wouldnt consider.

[PR3SSUR3]

I can definatly see Dead and Breakfast and Shaun of the Dead being highly respected for being a breath of fresh into into the dying genre

Or rather laughing at and cashing in on a genre as it's on its way out?

Already been done with the slashers and zombies, and probably the "psychological horrors" in Scary Movie.

Don't you just love it when a Haute Tension, Blair Witch or Irreversible comes along these days to sort people's heads out?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by urgeok
i got into this with someone before .. cant remember who ..

its my personal filing mentality ... i pop anything fantastical or supernatural into the horror bucket. (otherwise i cant find shit in my collection)

you'll find that a lot of horror guides do the same thing though ..
they are even more rediculous .. including stuff even i wouldnt consider.



That makes sense, I guess horror doesn't just have to be something that solely attempts to scare you.

It's like other genres that have films that lean in certain directions...Drama comedy,romantic comedy,dramactic thriller ect. Don't see why horror can't be the same.

[urgeok]

you'll find that horror doesnt exist too well on its own ..
its usually grouped in with sci-fi, exploitation, and fantasy as the lines often get blurred.

i prefer to think of them as Genre films ..

[AUSTIN316426808]

I guess it's like that because of the word horror. Drama,Comedy and other genres have broad descriptioins while on the other hand people hear the word horror and assume it's gotta be something completely scary.


I've only had this conversation about the horror genre, you never hear a dicussion about whether a film is or isn't qualified(for lack of a better word) for any other particular genre.

[TheOmen]

I think it's categorized as a drama thriller. It did have infulence on the horror genre and there's ghost and a number of scare scenes, so I guess there's no problem with calling it horror.

Horror films cease to be horror when they make a boatload of cash in Hollywood's eyes. But it is certainly a horror film. A boy sees dead people for god sake.

My votes are as follows:

Hostel
High Tension
American Psycho
A Tale Of Two Sisters
The Devil's Rejects
In The Mouth Of Madness
Scream(Yes Scream)
Se7en

Everyone hates Scream on these boards, but without it, there would be no horror coming to your cinemas today. It's a very sadistic film, that just happens to be ironic, which is the only way a horror film could have been made in the mid 90's. Go back and look at the horror releases that actually made it to theaters between '90 and '95, and you'll see what I mean.

[urgeok]

i never hated Scream .. i thought it was a treat for horror fans ..

i didnt thing Mouth of Madness was very good though ..
certainly not influential in the least..

[knife_fight]

I thought In the Mouth of Madness did Lovecraft like it should be done. nothing too special other than that, but I liked it.

I didn't like Dead & Breakfast. there was too much humor, terrible music, etc. but I did like Shaun of the Dead quite a bit. it was a bit more tasteful, the humor was actually funny, and the scares were actually pretty good.

I guess I would put Audition in there, besides most of the ones already mentioned.

[jenna26]

Originally posted by TheOmen


Everyone hates Scream on these boards, but without it, there would be no horror coming to your cinemas today. It's a very sadistic film, that just happens to be ironic, which is the only way a horror film could have been made in the mid 90's. Go back and look at the horror releases that actually made it to theaters between '90 and '95, and you'll see what I mean.

I don't hate Scream; in fact, I like it quite a bit. I think the first two are well-made films and are actually very clever.....a little too clever in some ways....it effected how other horror films were made and since Scream couldn't be replicated, we got hit with some crap. I mean, the movie was so self-aware that it came off as poking fun at the genre in some ways rather than as an homage, which I think it was intended to be. So I think it actually does fit on the list, as it was a very influential film, I just don't think that the influence was entirely positive.

[Posher778]

actually, just about everyone enjoyed scream.

To whoever said dog soldiers... That movie should be remembered, because that's probably the best werewolf film out there, but i9 don't think many people (besides horror fans) have even heard of it.