Scream Trilogy

[Viddy]

I have 'em all, and love 'em all! :D
I think this was an awesome trilogy. Scary, yet humor-laced! :P

My fave is the original, followed by the third, then the second.
But all are in range between 8-10/10 :D

Comments...?

[Thorns_demon]

They're good but not scary at all and most of the times you know what's gonna happen and stuff and that's the bad thing and I hate it that lots of movies have the same story, like chainsaw massacre same movie just other actors and a different killer, and there are more movies like this, it makes them not unique anymore oh yes the other movie was: I know what you did last summer, again same story.

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by Viddy
I have 'em all, and love 'em all! :D
I think this was an awesome trilogy. Scary, yet humor-laced! :P

My fave is the original, followed by the third, then the second.
But all are in range between 8-10/10 :D

Comments...?

I agree. #1, #3, #2.

The first one was very, very good. The third was decent. The second wasn't very good.

Dear GOD, I hope the #4 rumors aren't true.

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by Thorns_demon
They're good but not scary at all and most of the times you know what's gonna happen and stuff and that's the bad thing and I hate it that lots of movies have the same story, like chainsaw massacre same movie just other actors and a different killer, and there are more movies like this, it makes them not unique anymore oh yes the other movie was: I know what you did last summer, again same story.

I don't think you're aware that the entire point of making Scream was to make a movie that kind of pokes fun at movies like that (predictable, repeated horror plot, etc...) but yet be the same kind of slasher itself.

And I don't think it's anything like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

[Thorns_demon]

if that was their point then it makes it even worse, movies have to be unique, not predictable, no wonder everyone fell asleep at the movies

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by Thorns_demon
if that was their point then it makes it even worse, movies have to be unique, not predictable, no wonder everyone fell asleep at the movies

OK, you're not getting it, so I'm not going to further try to explain the concept to you.

[RavageRitual]

I disagree, I think they get worse as the go along,

The first one was actually a pretty decent flick
The second one had its parts but overall wasnt that great
The Third I hated so much

[Sick_As_Fuck]

The OG is my favorite scary movie of all-time. I challenge anyone whom thinks it's an awful movie to give just one good reason as to why.

[Thorns_demon]

why these are bad movies hmmm because it needs more killing and more flying bodyparts around, this is a movie for teens, not for the blood and gore fans

[Sick_As_Fuck]

lol what?

[urgeok]

i enjoyed #1, cant remember a damn thing about #2, and didnt like #3 at all except for the Jay and Silent Bob appearance ..

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by Thorns_demon
why these are bad movies hmmm because it needs more killing and more flying bodyparts around, this is a movie for teens, not for the blood and gore fans

Oooooo! Hardcooorree!

[Prelude95Si]

Scream is what got me into horror films. But when I watch them against other horror movies like TCM or the Friday movies, I just don't really care for Scream after that. Especially #3, way too much comedy. I mean common, he throws the knife at Dewy and the handel hits him in the head and knocks him out.

[novakru]

Originally posted by urgeok
the Jay and Silent Bob appearance ..
That was great.





I liked them all and I would be curious to see what they came up with for #4,so -am not against another one.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by novakru
That was great.





I liked them all and I would be curious to see what they came up with for #4,so -am not against another one.


Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is one of my all time favorite movies ..

I thought it was cool that they showed up on the set of scream ... a little tit for tat there.

Although Jersey Girl was an excellent film, it got lost in the bullshit surrounding Ben and J-lo ...
Kevin Smith may have to ressurect Jay and Silent Bob to propel his career forward again.
I can understand why he doesnt want to - Strikes Back was to be their swan song and it ended beautifully on that note ..
I just hope that if he does another movie where they are involved he can still find some love for the characters - and the spite doesnt show.

the ben-j-lo thing burned my ass by the way ..

i dont get why the fuck people buy into all this hollywood media bullshit anyway ... as if we know a god damn thing about these people...

if you believe what you read in enquirer or see on entertainment tonight then you're too gullible for words. it doesnt make you an authority on the character of these people.


sorry .. had a little rant here.

[ItsAlive75]

Kevin Smith will propel his career forward with Clerks 2 that's coming out soon. His movies only seem to do well financially when they're chock full of cameos.

[novakru]

I never saw Jersey Girl so I have no idea if it's a good flick,and I never agree with hollywood critics anymore seeing as how they are alot like the government now.

Urge-little rant? Very funny,always interesting - your rants:D


Clerks 2? that will be something I will have to see:cool:

[hammerfan]

Personally, I liked Jersey Girl.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by novakru
I never saw Jersey Girl so I have no idea if it's a good flick,and I never agree with hollywood critics anymore seeing as how they are alot like the government now.

Urge-little rant? Very funny,always interesting - your rants:D


Clerks 2? that will be something I will have to see:cool:


i just get sick of people passing judgement on celebrities as if they know them personally ...

smacks of sour grapes ..

[urgeok]

Originally posted by hammerfan
Personally, I liked Jersey Girl.


so did i ..
a very warm film .. george carlin was terrific .. so was liv tyler ...
i thought the entire cast shone on that one ..

[bwind22]

Originally posted by urgeok
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is one of my all time favorite movies ..

I thought it was cool that they showed up on the set of scream ... a little tit for tat there.

Although Jersey Girl was an excellent film, it got lost in the bullshit surrounding Ben and J-lo ...
Kevin Smith may have to ressurect Jay and Silent Bob to propel his career forward again.
I can understand why he doesnt want to - Strikes Back was to be their swan song and it ended beautifully on that note ..
I just hope that if he does another movie where they are involved he can still find some love for the characters - and the spite doesnt show.

the ben-j-lo thing burned my ass by the way ..

i dont get why the fuck people buy into all this hollywood media bullshit anyway ... as if we know a god damn thing about these people...

if you believe what you read in enquirer or see on entertainment tonight then you're too gullible for words. it doesnt make you an authority on the character of these people.


sorry .. had a little rant here.

Kevin Smith IS resurrecting Jay and Silent Bob to propel his career again. Clerks 2 is in the works.



EDIT: Oh damn. I didn't see this 2nd page here and alk already mentioned Clerks 2. My bad.

[bwind22]

I thought the first Scream was fresh, original, witty and an all around good time. Two and three were both shabby sequels with nonsensical and unneccesary plot twists just to make sure we couldn't guess who the killers were. :rolleyes:

[scouse mac]

Originally posted by bwind22
I thought the first Scream was fresh, original, witty and an all around good time. Two and three were both shabby sequels with nonsensical and unneccesary plot twists just to make sure we couldn't guess who the killers were. :rolleyes:

Totally agree, the two sequels were unneccessary but in their own way mimicked the endless stream pointless sequels often seen with horror franchises.

[urgeok]

its a shame how pointless money grabbing sequels can suck the life out of the origional.
the horror genre constantly suffers from this.

[PR3SSUR3]

And I don't think it's anything like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Interestingly, the underrated Texas Chain Saw Massacre: The Next Generation flirted with the post-modern/knowing approach years before Scream so horribly made this into a cool new genre for the "next generation" of horror fans.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Interestingly, the underrated Texas Chain Saw Massacre: The Next Generation flirted with the post-modern/knowing approach years before Scream so horribly made this into a cool new genre for the "next generation" of horror fans.

i knew you were gonna jump all over this one :)

i never thought of Scream(the 1st one at least) as a self satisfying smug smirking pic ..

i thought it was more of a treat for horror fans .. sort of Night of The Creeps long before it - that named all the characters after famous genre personalities.

I think it's only real failing - (and not really it's fault unless you want to consider the sequesl) was that is started a whole new wave of 80's style slasher pics which i think are the most uninteresting horror films ever made.

let me be specific : american 80's horror films.

i dont want the black glove killer fans on my ass :D

[PR3SSUR3]

For a moment there, we thought you were dissing giallos - you're right, you don't want those crazy geeks on your case...

:eek:

The sight of those vacantly determined kids faces put together in montage on the front of video boxes for Scream and its derivatives still sends a shudder.

Though Urban Legend wasn't too bad.

[slasherman]

Originally posted by bwind22
I thought the first Scream was fresh, original, witty and an all around good time. Two and three were both shabby sequels with nonsensical and unneccesary plot twists just to make sure we couldn't guess who the killers were. :rolleyes:
I agree on number 2 which also had no continuity...but I think number 3 was far better than number 2

[Posher778]

i'm gonna check out scream 3 next time i'm at hollywood vid. i've only seen scream 1, and i absolutely loved that movie. my favorite part was the beginning or the scene in the car where he kept unlocking doors and she locked them fast to keep him out. that movie is extremely fresh and original.. and one part actually scared me. where sydney and the camera guy were watching the screen, and he looked at the door and it was open, and he said frickin 30 second delay!! and the killer jumped out and sliced him.

[kung-fu-jesus]

i liked the first one, the second was okay and the third was alright, the first was the best.

when scream first came out it was great, some what shocking, and when compaired to other feature horror films of the time quite brutal. wether you like it, love it, or hate it it helped breath life back into mainstream horror.

and please dont bitch thats just my opinion.

[Posher778]

i just watched 3, and i loved it! i think it was actually MORE scary than the 1st, which... of course wasnt scary, but you no what i mean. and i loved the flashback parts, like going back in the house from movie 1.

[RavageRitual]

Originally posted by Posher778
i just watched 3, and i loved it! i think it was actually MORE scary than the 1st, which... of course wasnt scary, but you no what i mean. and i loved the flashback parts, like going back in the house from movie 1.

I thought 3 was by far the worse....but your entitled to your opinion. I do however agree with you on the flashbacks.

[Posher778]

well, i havent seen 2 so i can't compare it just yet. i liked the whole *spoilers*


brother thing at the end, it shows how clever the writers were. 1st is still the most amazingest =)

[Viddy]

^^ I agree.
One is still the best, followed by 3 which I liked a lot for some reason and then 2...
:)
But I loved all of 'em

[Posher778]

i think 1 actually has the most comedy, instead of 3


i crack up the entire ending of the 1st. espoecially when stu says... "did you really call the cops???" and sidney says you bet your bastard ass i called the cops" and stu says "my parents are gonnnaaa be so madddd at meeee..."

[hulkamaniak]

I love all 3 Screams also, but since some of you insist their are better movies in this genre, can you please name them

[lionels_mother]

Originally posted by Posher778
i think 1 actually has the most comedy, instead of 3


i crack up the entire ending of the 1st. espoecially when stu says... "did you really call the cops???" and sidney says you bet your bastard ass i called the cops" and stu says "my parents are gonnnaaa be so madddd at meeee..."

hilarious!

[Posher778]

Originally posted by Thorns_demon
why these are bad movies hmmm because it needs more killing and more flying bodyparts around, this is a movie for teens, not for the blood and gore fans

You don't think Scream has blood? have you SEEN the ending??

[Darthboy]

The original was a masterpiece and brought new life in the horror genre, just like how the first Rambo movie "First Blood" and "The Matrix" brought fresh new life into action movies and all three movies were equally taranished by their sequels.

Afterall i think the first "Scream" is a better Wes Craven flick than the ugly and terrible "Last House on The Left" but as good as his "Hills Have Eyes" and "Nightmare on Elm Street".

[lionels_mother]

Originally posted by Posher778
You don't think Scream has blood? have you SEEN the ending??

*spoiler*

I agree with thorns, the ending isn't that gory:- ok stu gets stabbed, and billy gets shot a couple of times, but IMHO there's not anything interesting gore-wise.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by kung-fu-jesus
i liked the first one, the second was okay and the third was alright, the first was the best.

when scream first came out it was great, some what shocking, and when compaired to other feature horror films of the time quite brutal. wether you like it, love it, or hate it it helped breath life back into mainstream horror.

and please dont bitch thats just my opinion.

Ok, I just need to comment on this. Now, I havent seen Scream, as Ive mentioned a few times around here. Looks to be a fairly decent film, I saw the last 10 minutes or so on TV. It's effect of the horror genre, however, is legendary. Helped breath life into it? How about helped create a half-assed, self-aware ressurection of the slasher genre? If by "helped breath life into it" you mean the quantity of horror films influenced by it, you have a point. However if you're saying the films that it influenced brought quality to the dying genre...if that's the case, I have nothing more to say to you.

[urgeok]

Scream on its own ... was an entertaining fanboy homage to the 80's slasher film. It had fun with it.

UNFORTUNATELY it did resurrect the genre..intentionally or not.

[Posher778]

i somewhat agree urgeok. I think it resurrected the genre, but it resurrected the GOOD part of the horror genre, with the good films, unlike the shit we see today.

[alkytrio666]

The first was excellent, the second was just alright, the third was pretty good.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Posher778
i somewhat agree urgeok. I think it resurrected the genre, but it resurrected the GOOD part of the horror genre, with the good films, unlike the shit we see today.

Urban Legends
Urban Legends: Final Cut
I Know What You Did Last Summer
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer
Nine Lives
Valentine
Cry Wolf
Soul Survivors

These are the type of films spawned from the Scream trilogy.

Good?

[Posher778]

I enjoyed Urban Legend for what it was. It wasn't anything special, but there are much worse films.

I also somewhat enjoyed cry wolf, I don't care about all the hype about it. It wasn't THAT horrible, and I enjoyed the ending, then the extra part of the ending where you really found out what was going on. The aol idea was kinda neat, and I admit the acting sucked and so did the gore and stuff, but it was a kind of slasher-lite treat for once. The i know what you did... movies are some of my least favorite movies ever, fuckin... terrible... The idea was cool, and it couldve been great if it was done at least 1/5th decently... Never seen valentine.

[The_Return]

Urban Legeds had, if nothing else, a good concept. Wasnt executed all that well, but it was a great idea for a slasher.


EDIT- Stupid typos...

[cheebacheeba]

I liked (and still do) the first Scream film a lot.
Sure, it borrowed relentlessly...but that was it's whole deal...behind that, I think they managed to string together a pretty decent plot, and some good twists, and a suitably menacing faceless killer.
It was funny, had a few extreme stereotype characters...and some that were just begging to get killed. Not to mention the whole "plot" that revealed itself over the last 20 minutes of the film, I loved that...and that the killers ended up being completely incompetent fucks in the end, their plan makes me laugh every time I watch it, but I have to admit, the first time I saw it, I thought "coooool".

The second was not too bad...had a few nice kill scenes, but seemed to have been more a cash in than anything, in the end. I still enjoyed it upon first viewing, and I liked the dialogue...as a sequel, it was "ok", no problems here.

The third one, I simply cannot enjoy, and I've tried to watch it around 3 times...the killers motive was so fucking water-thin, it's like they were just looking for any possible way to have yet another person want to kill sidney...seemed like every character in the series either got killed off or became an asshole. None of the fun of the last 2 films.

As for the "clones" that came out...I didn't mind the FIRST "I know" film, although I hated just about everyone in it. I think it had a slightly deeper plot, and a more scary atmosphere.
The sequel was complete shit, the first urban legend was ok up until the last half hour...the sequel to that, also shit..I understand there's a third film in the series now....don't know if I'll ever see that. Valentine...now there's a REALLY shitty film.
The rest aren't really noteworthy IMO.

[Posher778]

The scream 3 killer was apparently the killer from every scream, or at least the first, if you understood it correctly. It seems like the point they tried to make was that HE was in charge of the idea for the 1st killers in scream 1, and just didnt happen to be there, like he organized it. In scream 3 they find there was a 3rd killer, and it was him, and it made perfect sense to me. He didn't try to blame the movies or peer pressure, he just wanted his sister dead, and i couldn't think of a better explanation than that. I think it was the perfect slasher trilogy, everyone had twists, it was random and fun, easy to watch too. Scream 3 was just weird, cause neve campbell wasn't in it as much.

[PR3SSUR3]

Q: Who would be considered the most pretentious - Wes Craven (Scream) or Stanley Kubrick (2001)?

[Posher778]

hmmm, not sure, but scream beats 2001 any day.

[PR3SSUR3]

Heh heh!

Citizen Kane would just sooooo kick Scream's arse if the original film reels had fists and legs and were sentient things.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Posher778
hmmm, not sure, but scream beats 2001 any day.


i cant believe that's in print ... anywhere..

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by urgeok
i cant believe that's in print ... anywhere..

HDC strikes again

:eek:

[Posher778]

Originally posted by urgeok
i cant believe that's in print ... anywhere..

2001 just didn't appeal to me. I even liked hitchhikers guide to the galaxy more.

[PR3SSUR3]

Ok, but what didn't appeal in 2001?

The depiction of the beginning of man? (Bah! Mere actors in monkeysuits!)

The slow, plodding mid-section? (The stunning cinematography and intense exchanges between the crew and HAL aren't always noted)

The ambiguous, surreal destination? (Where? Who? What?)

Or all the flashy lights? (Seriously, because the final reel is where some viewers get out and decide the film and Kubrick are now taking the piss).

[urgeok]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Ok, but what didn't appeal in 2001?

The depiction of the beginning of man? (Bah! Mere actors in monkeysuits!)

The slow, plodding mid-section? (The stunning cinematography and intense exchanges between the crew and HAL aren't always noted)

The ambiguous, surreal destination? (Where? Who? What?)

Or all the flashy lights? (Seriously, because the final reel is where some viewers get out and decide the film and Kubrick are now taking the piss).

even as a teenager i had respect and love for classic films and appreciated the fact that although the effects may be a bit dated thanks to the latest technological advancement - that they were still amazing works of art.

most kids today cant get their head around the fact that things happened before they were born.

[PR3SSUR3]

I'm not sure if the fairly recent DVD re-issue was subject to any CGI twiddling - probably not, though with Kubrick no longer around the screen was probably tidied up with some of the old ultra-remastering.

Nevertheless, the special effects are fundamentally awesome - so clearly inspirational to today's science-fiction. And when the brilliantly provocative music isn't blaring, the silence of space really gives a sense of wonder and... size: of the spaceships, of space, and of the big question.

Possibly the only thing that could make 2001 even more a mysterious, ahead-of-its-time masterpiece would be if it was created a few years earlier - in black & white....

[urgeok]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
I'm not sure if the fairly recent DVD re-issue was subject to any CGI twiddling - probably not, though with Kubrick no longer around the screen was probably tidied up with some of the old ultra-remastering.

Nevertheless, the special effects are fundamentally awesome - so clearly inspirational to today's science-fiction. And when the brilliantly provocative music isn't blaring, the silence of space really gives a sense of wonder and... size: of the spaceships, of space, and of the big question.

Possibly the only thing that could make 2001 even more a mysterious, ahead-of-its-time masterpiece would be if it was created a few years earlier - in black & white....


it was definately one of the main stepping stones in modern affects.

i dont know what would be considered the main one before that .. but taking up with 2001 on i see it as

2001
star wars
abyss/terminator 2

as far as major speciall effects advancements go.

(i know a lot of subtle things are in between those to make the big ones possible.

and yeah ... the big question ...
thats another reason it gets lost on the majority .. everything isnt spelled out for everyone at the end .

but the worst possible affront to todays sensibilities :

not one big titted blond with a gang of horny teenage kids (each one representing a seperate major stereotype) trying to fuck her was onscreen at all in this film.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by urgeok
but the worst possible affront to todays sensibilities :

not one big titted blond with a gang of horny teenage kids (each one representing a seperate major stereotype) trying to fuck her was onscreen at all in this film.

that's it.....i'm selling my copy now

[Despare]

I wasn't a big fan of 2001 either and would probably watch Scream over it on any normal day. Now that's not saying I think it's a bad movie, I recognize it's merrits and it is a classic but it's just not my thing on the average day.

[insane78]

I though parts 1 and 2 of the Scream trilogy were great. Sorry, i just didn't care that much for part three, and thus, have only seen it once. The original Scream did something that no other horror movie dared to do, parody the horror movie genre. It was a great plot with some proven modern day actors. I liked part 2 better than part 1. By the way, where can I get one of those things that change your voice?

[The_Return]

*cough* (http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19850)

[Posher778]

so..... fucking..... sick.... of.... this....


SEARCH FOR THREADS.... JUST... SEARCH!

are you listening to me? SEARCH DAMMIT.

[last bad move]

i know it gets anoying when there are two threads but when i post a thread i rearly search. i have double posted in the past.


just figured i should help out mr/mrs. insane78


but ill stick to topic and say i agree with you i injoyed the first and second one, but the thrid one was lame. but the first one will always be my fav.

[The_Return]

Nothing wrong with posting a repeat thread if there hasnt been one on that topic for awhile...but Posher started one like last week! And it's only on the second page!

No offence man...but I just thought Id point tht out

[Posher778]

'ey buddy I didn't start it.

[Posher778]

You no... after watching them all again, I think scream 2 beats scream 3, its not as slash happy, but its damn scarier, i.e. *spoiler*



The car scene, and gale in the back room of the theater with those walls.

[Sick_As_Fuck]

I've always liked part 2 better than part 3.

[Posher778]

Yeah, I think i'd give 2 an 8.5/10, and scream 3 an 8.1/10.< mainly just because scream 3 has the cooliest ending ever.

[crazy raplh]

they were all gay i thought.

[Posher778]

Originally posted by crazy raplh
they were all gay i thought.


Why? Elaborate.

[crazy raplh]

i thought ir was funny.

[Sick_As_Fuck]

Originally posted by crazy raplh
they were all gay i thought.

I respect your opinion, but I'm interested in hearing why you think the first one is "gay".

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Posher778
'ey buddy I didn't start it.

Heh...I guess not. Seems I look like an idiot right now, eh?

[Posher778]

Originally posted by The_Return
Heh...I guess not. Seems I look like an idiot right now, eh?

What a HUGE mistake you made. IDIOT!

no... not really.

[crazy raplh]

i like bullet bill

[last bad move]

Originally posted by The_Return
Nothing wrong with posting a repeat thread if there hasnt been one on that topic for awhile...but Posher started one like last week! And it's only on the second page!

No offence man...but I just thought Id point tht out i didnt notice it before i said anything your right there is a thread (at this time) that is about 3 thread under this one and they both have the same name, thats a different situation all together.

[Posher778]

Originally posted by crazy raplh
i like bullet bill


why the hell would you just randomly post that.....