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hello,danny
01-14-2006, 03:07 PM
Okay. So, Friday was Friday the 13th, and like the silly loser I am, I rented the first two films of the FRIDAY THE 13TH franchise.

And then today I'm innocently browsing IMDB.com, and they have spotlighted FRIDAY THE 13TH as the "movie of the day."

That's all fine and dandy, until they began to talk about it (and I quote):

"Forever imitated and duplicated (with nine sequels -- ten if you count the recent Freddy Vs. Jason), the genre-defining Friday the 13th popularized a number of horror flick themes and techniques that are now clichés: the increasingly gory murders, the remote forest location, the anonymous and nubile cast, and, of course, the moral that if you have sex, you will ultimately find yourself at the hands of some whacked-out psycho."--by Mark Englehart, IMDB.com, Saturday (1-14).

Um, it is the opinion of THIS movie fanatic, that in fact FRIDAY THE 13TH is actually IMITATING and DUPLICATING a franchise that kicked off a couple years before Sean S. Cunningham spilled blod: HALLOWEEN, anybody?

In fact, it is THIS movie (dir. John Carpenter, 1977) that was "genre-defining" and layed the pavement for all slasher films to come. Basically, HALLOWEEN created the cookie cutter, NOT FRIDAY THE 13TH.

And, in fact, if you want to get REALLY fanatic, you could go as far back as PSYCHO, although HALLOWEEN is really the defining milestone of the modern slasher sub-genre of film.

Or is just me? Anybody else have it figured this way? Any criticisms?

Adios!

slasherman
01-14-2006, 03:27 PM
you got it right...and remember "Friday ....1" hadnt even a masked killer..but I think both movies inspired the 80's...and even today.

zwoti
01-14-2006, 03:35 PM
wow imdb got something wrong (gasp shock suprise etc....)



and the slasher SUB-genre was already going stong by the time halloween came out (bay of blood anyone?)

urgeok
01-14-2006, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by zwoti
wow imdb got something wrong (gasp shock suprise etc....)



and the slasher SUB-genre was already going stong by the time halloween came out (bay of blood anyone?)

closely followed by Black Christmas ...

Angelakillsluts
01-14-2006, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
closely followed by Black Christmas ...

Another one of my all time favorite movies. :D (and it's canadian! imagine that :p)

Zwoti, is Bay of Blood good?

slasherman
01-14-2006, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
Bay of Blood good?
:rolleyes: new to me too..

urgeok
01-14-2006, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
Another one of my all time favorite movies. :D (and it's canadian! imagine that :p)

Zwoti, is Bay of Blood good?

it has about a million different names but you might know it as Twitch of the Death Nerve ?

Mario Bava .. cant go wrong there ..

Angelakillsluts
01-14-2006, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
it has about a million different names but you might know it as Twitch of the Death Nerve ?

Mario Bava .. cant go wrong there ..

I have never seen a Mario Bava movie. :o

Juicy Jon
01-14-2006, 06:19 PM
"the genre-defining Friday the 13th popularized a number of horror flick themes and techniques that are now clichés"

It sounds like to me that they're just saying Friday The 13th really popularized those themes and (over the course of 9 movies) turned them into cliches. Its not really saying that Friday created anything, just wore it out.

zwoti
01-15-2006, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
it has about a million different names but you might know it as Twitch of the Death Nerve ?

Mario Bava .. cant go wrong there ..

Reazione a catena (1971)
... aka A Bay of Blood (USA)
... aka Antefatto
... aka Before the Fact-Ecology of a Crime
... aka Bloodbath (UK)
... aka Bloodbath Bay of Blood
... aka Bloodbath Bay of Death
... aka Carnage
... aka Chain Reaction (Italy: literal English title)
... aka Ecologia del delitto
... aka Last House on the Left Part II (USA: reissue title)
... aka New House on the Left
... aka The Ecology of a Crime
... aka Twitch of the Death Nerve

zwoti
01-15-2006, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
Mario Bava .. cant go wrong there ..

mask of satan/black sunday
the evil eye
black sabbath
the whip and the body
blood and black lace
planet of the vampires
kill baby kill
danger diabolik
five dolls for an august moon
hatchet for the honeymoon
baron blood
lisa and the devil
shock

slasherman
01-15-2006, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by zwoti

... aka Last House on the Left Part II (USA: reissue title)(1971)
.
fucking stupid Americans...that movie even came before "The Last House on the Left" (1972)

zwoti
01-15-2006, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by slasherman
fucking stupid Americans...that movie even came before "The Last House on the Left" (1972)

anything for an extra dollar

slasherman
01-15-2006, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by zwoti

baron blood
l
hey thats one of the first horror movies I ever saw... 9 years old...almost shit my pants....hasnt seen it since....

zwoti
01-15-2006, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by slasherman
hey thats one of the first horror movies I ever saw... 9 years old...almost shit my pants....hasnt seen it since....

joseh cotten from memory is in it, got it on video somewhere :(

perhaps time for an upgrade

filmmaker2
01-15-2006, 09:13 AM
Like I say, there's always room for.....giallo.

zwoti
01-15-2006, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by filmmaker2
Like I say, there's always room for.....giallo.

hell i'd sleep on the couch and it could have my room :p