About Jesus

[SKOOFx]

Hello!

I am a Chronic Masturbater sent with the word of Satan!

I know you all love Jesus, but he is truly the work of sheer stupidity! I wouldn't even call him a prophet, but more of a"token undergrad hippie from the yester years ". He presents explicit and graphic displays of crappy magic and the early works david blaine(water into wine..HA!).

Please! Think about it! Maybe reverting to something a little more intelligent, such as Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger Pt4! and other quality Troma Movies.

If you're interested in the boycotting of these horrible, farm animal fucking hick shit cults, please e-mail me for information!

JesusStoleMyWife@yahoo.com

Thanks, and please help me to spread the good word of the great Loyd Kaufman!

- Steven Spielberg
http://www.mk-magazine.com/photogallery/AZANDFIEnds2/troma2004/troma08.jpg


HAIL SATAN - HIGH PRIEST WISE!

[Angelakillsluts]

No jesus bashing :mad:

I love and hate Lloyd Kaufman for the same reason.

[bloodrayne]

To tell the truth...I have absolutely NOTHING against Jesus, or another person's right to believe in and worship whoever or whatever they want to...



What burns MY ass, is when people try to tell ME what I should believe in, and who and what I should worship

I can't say that ALL Christians are like that (Hammerfan, for example, is an awesome person and I love her to death)...But, it is a FACT that of all religions, Christians are the worst for trying to force their beliefs and opinions on others....And MOST of the Christians that I have encountered are the biggest hypocrites in all of existance....

Far too many contradictions...

Were you aware that the word 'Christian' means 'Christ like'?.....Their bible says that Christ judges a person by what is in his heart, and NOT by his outward appearance...So, why are the Christians the first ones to judge a person based on how they look or what they wear?...That type of superficiality (well, ANY type really) just pisses me off...

And...

Why do they depict Jesus as a white guy with long light brown hair?...According to the Bible, he was born in Bethlehem...That's Jerusalem guys, the middle east...Jesus would HAVE to look like an Arab.....Dark skin, curly black hair, etcetera...

Believe me there are TONS of contradictions, it would take me a WEEK to point them all out...Anyway, my point is...It is offensive to force your beliefs on spmeone else, I don't do it to people, and I would appreciate the same courtesy that I afford everyone else, to be given to me in return...I don't think that's too much to ask...

And by the way...You guys know a LOT about me...I've known many of you for years...And yet NONE of you are familiar with my religious beliefs....If someone asked, I would tell them, but I do NOT try to convert people or preach to anyone...I think that's another reason that I take offense to some stranger just popping in here and spreading his ideas around like that....It's just not right



Call yourselves lucky, cuz Dustin just walked in the door, so my rant has to end for now

:D

[Spallalala]

I dont dig jesus... I know theres someone below or above us. I mean we came from somewhere. Not very religious. Seems to get in the way. Have explored a few too.

[AmericanManiac]

Aliens put us here, we are their test subjects :rolleyes:

[SKOOFx]

wow, this sparked a serious thread.

and i was just trying to make a funny :(

a nice little parody to that assholes post.

[slasherman]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/slasherman1971/jesusgif.gifhttp://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/slasherman1971/webbbrocket.gif

[hammerfan]

I love you, too, Rayne! And I agree with everything you said. I also know a lot of hypocrits, especially in my own church. I like to think I don't judge people on their looks, but I have found myself doing that from time to time, mostly when I'm in South Philly.:D

I also never understood why they make Christ with light hair and blue eyes - I don't know too many Jewish people with blue eyes!

To me, the only thing that matters is what's in your heart - if you're a good person (like Rayne) and are fun to be with, I'll be your friend. I don't care what you look like, what color your skin is, what religion you are, what sexual preferences you have, etc. It just doesn't matter!

[hammerfan]

Originally posted by SKOOFx
wow, this sparked a serious thread.

and i was just trying to make a funny :(

a nice little parody to that assholes post.

It made for a good debate!

[ItsAlive75]

Without Christianity, Republicans just wouldn't be as hilariously crazy.

George W. would have never said he talked to God.

Then he would have never made the troops pray for HIM, and send a form back to Washington, proving that they did.

And then where would we be?

[slasherman]

..I hate Christianity but I dont hate all Christians ...the same for all other religions...I dont like the structure of the systems...

..some of my friends say they are Christians...they are cool people even though they are hypocrites...they fuck around, drink and smoke drugs, lie.........

[MichaelMyers]

People this is a CHRISTIAN nation, if you don't like that, you can MOVE TO FRANCE

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
To tell the truth...I have absolutely NOTHING against Jesus, or another person's right to believe in and worship whoever or whatever they want to... What burns MY ass, is when people try to tell ME what I should believe in, and who and what I should worship

I feel the same.

[knife_fight]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
People this is a CHRISTIAN nation, if you don't like that, you can MOVE TO FRANCE


I assume this is sarcasm

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
People this is a CHRISTIAN nation, if you don't like that, you can MOVE TO FRANCE

Is that so? hmmmm..... I'm Atheist and I'm not going anywhere. And I thought that this was a "FREE COUNTRY"???

I hope knife_fight is right, because if this isn't just pure sarcasm, this world is going down hill fast.:(

[Haunted]

It better be sarcasm, otherwise, I'll ask MM to take a look at the Constitution, The Federalist Papers, and the Treaty of Tripoli. These works are all penned by our "founding fathers."

[MichaelMyers]

I'm calling my attorney general. EXPECT DEPORTATION DIRECTLY! Show me your papers!

[Tat2]

Religion has played the most significant part in the birth and destruction of nations in history. More people (millions+) have died because of their religious beliefs - ie., holy wars, the crusades, current war in Iraq, etc... than all other wars in history combined. Is there someone besides me that sees this as kind of an oxyoron?

Throughout history, religious fanatics were willing to die and kill for their belief in their chosen idol, be it God, Allah or who/what ever. Preach peace and love thy neighbor (unless they don't believe as you do, then kill them!) Hmmmm, what is wrong with this picture?

What about the remark made by Pat Robertson (respected Christian Leader on the CBN 700 club) in August, 2005 that called for Americans to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez?

I personally don't have a problem with any religion or faith and believe that people have the right to worship and pray to what ever deity they choose. People can Pray to a cabbage head if they want, just don't push your belief on me.

In the same breath, I respect anyone with a strong belief in their God, and don't have a problem with open prayer, the display of the Ten Commandments etc., I don't have to pray if I choose not to, and I don't have to read the ten commandments if I don't want to. At the same time, if I am enjoying a horror movie, books, rock music, porn or a beer - that is my choice - so leave me alone.

There.....nuff said.

[AmericanManiac]

Originally posted by Tat2


What about the remark made by Pat Robertson (respected Christian Leader on the CBN 700 club) in August, 2005 that called for Americans to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez?


I was watching the news this morning and it seems mister Pat Robertson is back in the new, saying some comment something about the Irseli Primeminster DESERVES what he is going though. I haven't seen nothing else on this.

[Posher778]

i'm a christian... but that doesnt mean you have to be.. you can live your life how ever you want to and nobody can tell you otherwise. yeah and i agree that half the christians in this country are a bit on the insane side. just don't bash all christians when there are some opposite of what you think. ;):D

[scouse mac]

SKOOFx is right. Jesus, with his long hair and no job, was the first hippie on the planet. Roaming round with his lazy mates telling people to be nice to each other. Nothing wrong with that I suppose.

Britain is nicely non-religious, it suits me very well.

[Haunted]

Pat Robertson is probably one of the dumbest people on the planet. He should get a gig with Paris Hilton. Bible beating with Paris Hilton... now that's funny.

[Zombee]

Originally posted by slasherman
..I hate Christianity but I dont hate all Christians ...the same for all other religions...I dont like the structure of the systems...

..some of my friends say they are Christians...they are cool people even though they are hypocrites...they fuck around, drink and smoke drugs, lie.........

No offense Slash but that is an ignorant statement.. I am not a Christian but I will defend them in this instance. Just because you are a "Christian" does not mean that you are or supposed to be perfect or not prone to the pleasures of man. Thats like saying if your a Satanist you kill babies and slaughter lambs to sacrifice its just dumb. I personally have never met anyone who is perfect have you? When you do please let me know. I guess what your saying is that if you dont claim you are a Christian it is ok to act like an asshole and indulge??? But if you say you are a Christian and you do these things you are a biggot?

[slasherman]

Originally posted by Zombee
I guess what your saying is that if you dont claim you are a Christian it is ok to act like an asshole and indulge??? But if you say you are a Christian and you do these things you are a biggot?
..if you say you'r a Christian you shall follow the bible..its that "easy"...if you dont do that ..you are per definition a sinner and a hypocrite...I have not made the rules .....
......and the rules are/was made to keep up the system which in this case are Christianity ........

[tonemeister]

Originally posted by Tat2
Religion has played the most significant part in the birth and destruction of nations in history. More people (millions+) have died because of their religious beliefs - ie., holy wars, the crusades, current war in Iraq, etc... than all other wars in history combined. Is there someone besides me that sees this as kind of an oxyoron?

Throughout history, religious fanatics were willing to die and kill for their belief in their chosen idol, be it God, Allah or who/what ever. Preach peace and love thy neighbor (unless they don't believe as you do, then kill them!) Hmmmm, what is wrong with this picture?

What about the remark made by Pat Robertson (respected Christian Leader on the CBN 700 club) in August, 2005 that called for Americans to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez?

I personally don't have a problem with any religion or faith and believe that people have the right to worship and pray to what ever deity they choose. People can Pray to a cabbage head if they want, just don't push your belief on me.

In the same breath, I respect anyone with a strong belief in their God, and don't have a problem with open prayer, the display of the Ten Commandments etc., I don't have to pray if I choose not to, and I don't have to read the ten commandments if I don't want to. At the same time, if I am enjoying a horror movie, books, rock music, porn or a beer - that is my choice - so leave me alone.

There.....nuff said.

I couldn't have said it better myself :) I agree wholeheartedly.

[SKOOFx]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
People this is a CHRISTIAN nation, if you don't like that, you can MOVE TO FRANCE

Dumbest statement ive ever heard.
(Especially since the majority of France is christian... )
I hate how Americans use "If you dont like it , move to france" as a defense.

<rolls eyes>

And lemme tell you, France is one of the best countries in the world, with some of the most educated people.

MM, have you been? If yes, then i wonder what kind of experience youve had(maybe your the "ugly american". But if you havent, how can you use that as a reply to this comical thread?

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by Posher778
i'm a christian... but that doesnt mean you have to be.. you can live your life how ever you want to and nobody can tell you otherwise. yeah and i agree that half the christians in this country are a bit on the insane side. just don't bash all christians when there are some opposite of what you think. ;):D

Now this right here is something I've been waiting to hear for a long time. Thanks Posher778. That is sorta like the fact that my girlfriend is christian and I'm not(shhhhh!), but her mom is also christian, and she is shall we say....... as you said..... Insane. If her mom knew that I was goth, she'd have a heart attack because I'm not a "super christian"(no offense if you are). But oddly enough, my gf likes the fact that I'm a goth. So I'm cool with it.

The best way to sum up your post is..... Don't judge people.

Wow..... That's like the longest post I've ever typed on here..... interesting....:cool:

[PR3SSUR3]

An awful lot of wannabe radicals shouting about aetheism often go and ruin it by adding, carefully... "but I'm sure there is something out there/reason for being here/purpose to life" (delete as applicable).

Whimsical lightweights are scared to believe our inane existence is nothing more than what it is.

The need for there to be more than ourselves suggests mass feelings of inadequacy.

:cool:

[Zero]

Originally posted by SKOOFx
Hello!

I am a Chronic Masturbater sent with the word of Satan!

I know you all love Jesus, but he is truly the work of sheer stupidity! I wouldn't even call him a prophet, but more of a"token undergrad hippie from the yester years ". He presents explicit and graphic displays of crappy magic and the early works david blaine(water into wine..HA!).

Please! Think about it! Maybe reverting to something a little more intelligent, such as Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger Pt4! and other quality Troma Movies.

If you're interested in the boycotting of these horrible, farm animal fucking hick shit cults, please e-mail me for information!

JesusStoleMyWife@yahoo.com

Thanks, and please help me to spread the good word of the great Loyd Kaufman!

- Steven Spielberg
http://www.mk-magazine.com/photogallery/AZANDFIEnds2/troma2004/troma08.jpg


HAIL SATAN - HIGH PRIEST WISE!

in the words of Jesus1.0 "woot woot"

[Haunted]

Hammerfan, true spirituality never hurt anybody; isn't that right, girl?;) :)

As you know, I live in the Southeastern US, a.k.a The Bible Belt. Guess what religion my whole family follows except for me and my bro, who is atheist...

These family members, including my parents, are always going on about: What's your religion done for you (to me)? Is that not the biggest bullshit question not to mention LOADED question in the world?

HAIL THE MORRIGHAN
PRIESTESS HEATHER:) ...I just had to.

[hammerfan]

Originally posted by Haunted
Hammerfan, true spirituality never hurt anybody; isn't that right, girl?;) :)



Truer words were never spoken, darlin'

[stubbornforgey]

Jesus loves you .:D

[Haunted]

Jesus is just too male for me.

HAIL THE MORRIGHAN
PRIESTESS HEATHER (okay that's the last time, I promise :) ).

[scottingraham]

I personally believe in Jesus and actually respect others right not to. So when I read ignorant rants about chrisitans it makes me wonder why people cant respect other peoples beliefs. If you praise satan thats you I personally dont care but dont bash people who believe in Jesus just because you dont or chose not to.

[BH14]

Leave religion out of this forum especially for the people who wanna bash christians or jesus.... Respect everyone's religion. Whats so hard about that?

Some people want to bash a religion but they have no idea what its about. Some people never read 1 single page from the bible or stepped inside the church and all of a sudden, they think they know all about the religion. It's ridiculous.

[scouse mac]

The biggest problem with religion is not the message, but the messenger. Organised religion is deeply hypocritical. When you see the Pope (for example) and hundreds of cardinals living in luxury in the vast palaces in the Vatican State, with hundreds of millions of dollars being horded away, I always wonder how they can talk about charity to others when all that money could help millions of people worldwide. Religion on a small scale, within local communities, can make a big difference to peoples lives but so much more, given the resources of these organisations, could be done.

I personally do not believe in the existence of a God but Im happy to respect others peoples delusions ;) !

[stubbornforgey]

Originally posted by scouse mac
The biggest problem with religion is not the message, but the messenger. Organised religion is deeply hypocritical. When you see the Pope (for example) and hundreds of cardinals living in luxury in the vast palaces in the Vatican State, with hundreds of millions of dollars being horded away, I always wonder how they can talk about charity to others when all that money could help millions of people worldwide. Religion on a small scale, within local communities, can make a big difference to peoples lives but so much more, given the resources of these organisations, could be done.

I personally do not believe in the existence of a God but Im happy to respect others peoples delusions ;) !

nicely said..
I don't understand this ..
what gives those catholic preists the right to molest all of those boys and get away with it??
because they read it somewhere in the bible.

what made parents from opposing churches throw rocks at small children
because they wanted to go to a school in thier area..??(protestant and catholic)
because they each beleive that thier god is the right god and that those innocent children had no place in thier society.

what caused 1000's of jehovah witnesses in the late 70's to go mad..??
cause they were told that 1975 was the year the world was going to end..
(my mother actually ended up in a psychiatric ward so i know wot em talking about.)

why were the jew persecuted..??
because they were blamed for the death of jesus.


why were females who did things differently in the olden days burnt at the stake and labelled witches..?
because thier practises were not recognised in the bible.

why are palestines and israel killing eachother..??
occupation of the holy land.

last but not least..
do i dare mention the mr jones saga and all the ppl who he convinced to commit suicide.

[Haunted]

Originally posted by BH14
Leave religion out of this forum especially for the people who wanna bash christians or jesus.... Respect everyone's religion. Whats so hard about that?

Some people want to bash a religion but they have no idea what its about. Some people never read 1 single page from the bible or stepped inside the church and all of a sudden, they think they know all about the religion. It's ridiculous.

I want to point out a couple of fallacies here.

1. We should stop talking about religion especially if we're going to bash Christianity? So does that mean we can talk about religion if we're only gonna bash Judaism? Your comment was a little self-important don't you think?

2. I've read a huge chunk of the Bible (as much as I could stand), and studied Christianity as part of my degree. I can honestly say that I wasn't impressed. That is my INFORMED opinion.

3. Don't call Christianity "religion." It is A religion not THE religion. There are lots of practicing Hindus, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, Janes, Taoists, Indigenous tribes, Wiccans, and various religious scholars who would agree on that one. Their religion and/or understanding of religion is just as valid.

I'm sorry if it seems I'm coming down on you. For one thing, I'm having a bad day. For another, this is my life's study. It's something I'm passionate about.

[scottingraham]

Originally posted by Haunted
I want to point out a couple of fallacies here.

1. We should stop talking about religion especially if we're going to bash Christianity? So does that mean we can talk about religion if we're only gonna bash Judaism? Your comment was a little self-important don't you think?

2. I've read a huge chunk of the Bible (as much as I could stand), and studied Christianity as part of my degree. I can honestly say that I wasn't impressed. That is my INFORMED opinion.

3. Don't call Christianity "religion." It is A religion not THE religion. There are lots of practicing Hindus, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, Janes, Taoists, Indigenous tribes, Wiccans, and various religious scholars who would agree on that one. Their religion and/or understanding of religion is just as valid.

I'm sorry if it seems I'm coming down on you. For one thing, I'm having a bad day. For another, this is my life's study. It's something I'm passionate about. No I respect what you have said here although I disagree I mean christainty is a large if not the biggest religon out there and as for the catholic church I dont support it because I feel it is crooked with all the sex scandal and as mentioned before the $ but Im baptist and I know they dont have that great of a reputation but theres alot worse the that even though sime baptist do shove religion in your face at times which I dont agree should be done. Its a big world people are different everywhere as are beliefs and that should be respected because it keeps things intresting in life.

[Soloman Kane]

Religion is a pointless exercise in controlling others behavior & sexual mores. Nothing else has caused more destruction in the course of human civilazition then religion. Accept maybe sex or religion & sex :D :p

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by scottingraham
No I respect what you have said here although I disagree I mean christainty is a large if not the biggest religon out there and as for the catholic church I dont support it because I feel it is crooked with all the sex scandal and as mentioned before the $ but Im baptist and I know they dont have that great of a reputation but theres alot worse the that even though sime baptist do shove religion in your face at times which I dont agree should be done. Its a big world people are different everywhere as are beliefs and that should be respected because it keeps things intresting in life.

MY GOD is bigger than YOUR GOD. CASE CLOSED

[Soloman Kane]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
MY GOD is bigger than YOUR GOD. CASE CLOSED
YAH, WELL MINE HAS A GUN!

[slasherman]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/slasherman1971/jesus-gif.gif
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/slasherman1971/man-med-gun-jesus.gif

[Soloman Kane]

This thead is pretty well shot! :D :D :rolleyes:

[Haunted]

Shooting Jesus is pointless, Slasherman. He's already dead.

[PR3SSUR3]

I don't understand this ..
what gives those catholic preists the right to molest all of those boys and get away with it??
because they read it somewhere in the bible



Really?

What page is this on?


:confused:

[Zero]

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Really?

What page is this on?


:confused:

its First Pedophealicus chapter 6, verse 66

[OctaviusHunter]

I'm a christian and a practicing christian and I'm offended but the two most important documents to me are the bible and constitution. I have a right to be offended and you have the right to say offending stuff.

If we can agree on that we just created a relationship with one commonality. I believe it is in everyone's best interest to be a follower of Jesus but it's a choice and I don't push it -- it's that whole free will and freedom thing.

btw, this is not a christian nation.

[PR3SSUR3]

^ ^


Q: How do you deal with Christian religion-themed horror movies and, in particular, blasphemous content?

[PR3SSUR3]

Oh, and doth my avatar offend thee?

:cool:

[BH14]

On a serious note:

Is it a Goth "thing" to bash religion?? I am being serious. Im guessing it is. Im not trying to be funny.

[PR3SSUR3]

From Goths encountered, there seems to be a schizophrenic pre-occupation with dangling a load of blingy crucafixes... juxtaposed with Satanic bits and pieces and ideology.

A hilariously pointless fad, Gothism.

:D

[BH14]

Why do people waste their time on hating? Yet, some people will spend their time and energy describing on why they hate catholic religion. Either lot of time or lot of extra hate in their lives. I dont know. They will even waste their time in finding stupid offensive avatars or pics.... If you dont know anything about the religion, it doesnt make you qualified of knowing it all. If you dont know anything about a subject, then you probably shouldnt be talking about it. That even goes for people that take a 3 month course about the religion. Catholic religion is a way of life and not a college course that is trying to "impress" you to join them.

[orangestar]

Originally posted by scouse mac
The biggest problem with religion is not the message, but the messenger. Organised religion is deeply hypocritical. When you see the Pope (for example) and hundreds of cardinals living in luxury in the vast palaces in the Vatican State, with hundreds of millions of dollars being horded away, I always wonder how they can talk about charity to others when all that money could help millions of people worldwide. Religion on a small scale, within local communities, can make a big difference to peoples lives but so much more, given the resources of these organisations, could be done.

I personally do not believe in the existence of a God but Im happy to respect others peoples delusions ;) !

Now let me have my say in this issue before we call this thread shot.

I hate it when people say that they respect my religion, then go on to call it a "delusion" and call it "hypocritical". Those are not the most respectful terms I can think of.

As some here may remember, I used to be a die-hard atheist and I couldn't understand the religious way of life, but I dont think I ever called it delusional. Now I'm on the other side of the fence. God has come into my life, and I wouldn't want it any other way, but I'm not going to force it on anyone else.


K, I'm done. Good discussion guys :)

HIGH PRIEST WISE

[Marroe]

Jesus rocks my socks

[slasherman]

Originally posted by Haunted
Shooting Jesus is pointless, Slasherman. He's already dead.
is he..?. thought he stand up from the dead...anyway I wanted to make sure he was gone for good ..:cool:

[scouse mac]

Originally posted by orangestar
I hate it when people say that they respect my religion, then go on to call it a "delusion" and call it "hypocritical". Those are not the most respectful terms I can think of.



I meant I respect peoples right to believe what they wish, I certainly do not respect organized religion as a whole because it does not practice what it preaches.
The 'delusions ;) ' bit was just a little humour, no offence meant.

[SKOOFx]

Just wanted to remind everyone, that the only reason i started thread was to poke fun and get a cheap laugh out of that guy who came to this sire (peaceforjesus).

Its just a parody on his post.
This thread got wayyy too serious.

[Haunted]

Well, I'm gonna say that most of the Christians that have posted on this thread seem pretty cool. That's great. We need more cool Christians. Go out and make yourselves an example to the morons. I'd try to go and make myself and example to other Witches, but I think I'd be setting a bad precidence. I've...uh... kinda broken the reed: An in it harm none, do what thou will. That's why I refer to myself as the "Not Quite So Wicked Witch" I don't want to be hypocritical. (You know, I don't want to be the Pat Robertson of Witchcraft).

Going on... I give much kudos to Hammerfan for being one of the coolest Christians I've ever had the pleasure of knowing.

Orangestar, I happy that you've found something fulfilling in your life. That's awesome.

To our atheists: Rock on. You like science; I like science. From my faithful perspective I don't condemn you at all. I just think you're in for a treat when it's all said and done. "I'll see you on the dark side of the moon."

[Soloman Kane]

Anyhow so alot of you believe in God. Do you believe that the Bible & its message has been used wrongly over the years for the betterment of others? :)

[novakru]

Originally posted by Soloman Kane
Anyhow so alot of you believe in God. Do you believe that the Bible & its message has been used wrongly over the years for the betterment of others? :)


The bible was warped and twisted probably as soon as it saw the light of day and then really got it's groove on back in the beginning of roman catholic times to keep the LITTLE people in line,and also because peons were basically too stupid to understand the real version:rolleyes:

Anybody interested in it though,research for yourself-Elaine Pagals is one of the best religous untanglers I have ever read-she is very easy to understand and rarely goes beyond the average intellect:D

[Soloman Kane]

Originally posted by novakru
The bible was warped and twisted probably as soon as it saw the light of day and then really got it's groove on back in the beginning of roman catholic times to keep the LITTLE people in line,and also because peons were basically too stupid to understand the real version:rolleyes:

Anybody interested in it though,research for yourself-Elaine Pagals is one of the best religous untanglers I have ever read-she is very easy to understand and rarely goes beyond the average intellect:D Imagine getting an Elaine Pagals reference on a horror website. Nice one there! She is great.. :D

[novakru]

Her book 'Origins of Satan' changed my life.
I still want a copy of the Gnostic Gospels,it's probably the only thing she has written that I haven't read thru and thru.

I have had a personal experience that leads me to believe there is something out there that we belong to and that loves us more dearly than we can comprehend.....and religion doesn't even begin to explain it or even touch on that.

I still believe in a supreme being and am a member of a Lutheran church(although I haven't been to church in quite a while) but I do not trust most religions-christian or otherwise-they all seem to have there alterior motives that has nothing to do with enlightenment and human progress.

[SKOOFx]

Beautifully put Nova.

Origins Of Satan? Sounds interesting.

May i have a brief synopsis?

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by BH14
On a serious note:

Is it a Goth "thing" to bash religion?? I am being serious. Im guessing it is. Im not trying to be funny. I know a lot of people that are considered 'Goth'...And almost ALL of them belong to some type of religion (There are Christians, Pagans, Wiccans, Buddhists, and others)so...No, It wouldn't make sense for the majority of them to 'bash religion'

I don't have a problem with anyone believing in anything they want to, religion is a personal thing...I only take offense when someone tries to push their religion on me...

Wouldn't a Christian be offended if someone told them that they should be Pagan?...That's all I'm saying...

[scouse mac]

'Save me Jebus!'

H.Simpson

[novakru]

Originally posted by SKOOFx
Beautifully put Nova.

Origins Of Satan? Sounds interesting.

May i have a brief synopsis?

Brief?
Oh lordy,I'll try....

Pagals tells of where 'Satan' originated from and how in each new 'version' of religious texts,and each new age of man Satan becomes more and more prominent(sp?) and 'Evil'.
It's like he 'Grows' into the Satan we all know and love today:D
I can't remember exactly how this book ends,it's been a long time since I read it,but this would be a good book to check out if you have the time.

[Haunted]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Wouldn't a Christian be offended if someone told them that they should be Pagan?...That's all I'm saying...

HAW! I'mma go up in to Go Fish, our local Christian bookstore, and start preaching the Word of the Goddess. Just for you, Rayne:D

Okay, maybe not. They can go up in Paga bookshops and bitch and preach, but one of steps inside their stores... We'd get slapped with disturbing the peace.

[Soloman Kane]

Another point is that there are fanatics in EVERY religion.. These idiots are the ones who ruin it for everyone else.. :D

[wood_elf_pansy]

Up untill I was 16 I was all for Jesus and the bible and whatnot but then something happened that you would think wouldn't change that. I moved in with a Christian woman because I called DFS on my dad. Well, at first we went to church on Sundays and Wednesdays. Then we started going to ladys nights once a month. Then we started going on Tuesdays also. Next thing I know we are going to church almost everyday of the week. Can I say OVERLOAD. On top of that it was a pentecostal church. I had never been to one before. I went to Baptist churches my whole life until then. Well, it was as if they wanted me to feel something I didn't feel. They got me up in front of the church, everyone put their hands on me and started talking in "tounges" as they called it. The paster put his hand on my head and was praying and pushing me backward. As if he was trying to make me fall. Maybe that is why the old ladys were all falling to the floor. Because they were pushed by the Pastor and not because they felt the power of the "holy ghost". Since this happened I have decided that I don't believe in a god or the bible. I don't have a problem with anyone elses beliefs because that is on them but, I just dont see how that stuff is even possible. A guy losses all his strength after getting his hair cut off, what? I think I believe in evolution more than anything. I also believe that their has to be aliens out there. The universe is too big for there not to be any other kind of life out there. You know. Wow. That was flippin' long. My bad.