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Zero
12-18-2005, 10:52 AM
So, the other day a woman i've been sort of dating says "i want to go see this film, but you wouldn't want to go" - I figured it would be some kind of Hillary Duff chicky flicky but, just to further the conversation I ask what film it is. She says "brokeback mountain."

Well, I say, "oh i do want to see that - the reviews have been stunning and I like Ang Lee (with the exception of the horrific hulk)." She then says, "oh, well since you're straight i figured you wouldn't want to see a gay cowboy romance."

Now, my question to the straight men of the board: Will you go see Brokeback Mountain? and, if not, is it simply because its a male-on-male romance?

she_died
12-18-2005, 11:01 AM
Yes I'll go, but only wearing sunglasses with pictures of breasts glued to the inside of the lenses...

For real though, yes, I'd like to see it, but I'm broke. Although seeing men kiss/have sex isn't my favourite thing in the world to watch, it's just another thing that goes on in the wide, wonderful world, and if someone's making a good movie that includes such things, who am I to resist? Plus, it's always interesting to see the view from the other side of the fence, if you will. Being gay is inherently a lot more challenging than being straight, there are bound to be a bunch of good stories in that...

RavageRitual
12-18-2005, 11:19 AM
Im pretty sure im gonna go check it out.

pinkfloyd45769
12-18-2005, 11:21 AM
I'm not a guy, i still want to see it though. I think the actors are great in this, it would be tuff if they are not gay in real life to do these scenes.

Zero
12-18-2005, 11:21 AM
i have this overwhelming urge to make a joke out of "check it out" - - but in the name of tolerance and my opposition to homophobia - i'll resist

RavageRitual
12-18-2005, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Zero
i have this overwhelming urge to make a joke out of "check it out" - - but in the name of tolerance and my opposition to homophobia - i'll resist

Good Idea;)

Zero
12-18-2005, 11:28 AM
every once in a while i give in to my "good" side



(of course, i give in to my evil side on a daily basis)

Marroe
12-18-2005, 11:35 AM
"sort of dating"? hmm....:p

Anyways. I'm not a guy (for those of you that didn't know), but I'd have no problems seeing a movie with girl on girl, guy on guy, whatever...as long as it seems like a good movie. And if I wanted a guy to go see a movie like that with me I'd hope he wouldn't have a problem with it. Insecurity to the max, I couldn't deal with it.

Zero
12-18-2005, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Marroe
"sort of dating"? hmm....:p




its a tough moment - when do you 'officially' start dating? how many 'dates' make you 'dating?' - i don't know and i'm not sure i want to push things to find out. . .

advice?

Marroe
12-18-2005, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Zero
its a tough moment - when do you 'officially' start dating? how many 'dates' make you 'dating?' - i don't know and i'm not sure i want to push things to find out. . .

advice? Well...how long have you known her? I would say after 3 consecutive dates you're 'dating' at least. As far as relationships after dating, I wouldn't know...I've never been on an actual 'date'. But if she seems interested and you are too, ask her to be your girl :) You don't wanna wait TOO long, she'll think you don't like her.

Zero
12-18-2005, 11:48 AM
hmm, wow '3' seems so . . . quick. . i guess i'll have to start thinking about this more seriously

Marroe
12-18-2005, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Zero
hmm, wow '3' seems so . . . quick. . i guess i'll have to start thinking about this more seriously quick for a relationship! Of course. But dating...I'd say if you like one person enough to go on more than 3 dates with you're dating them. But like I said...I've never been on a date so what do I know?

Zero
12-18-2005, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Marroe
quick for a relationship! Of course. But dating...I'd say if you like one person enough to go on more than 3 dates with you're dating them. But like I said...I've never been on a date so what do I know?

no - no - no - i totally trust your advice. i have had many horrifically awkward 'dating' situations based on my general inability to pick up on the proper 'rules' or 'etiquette' of these things. . . so i think you are probably right

stubbornforgey
12-18-2005, 12:10 PM
em not a guy either but i would definately go and see this just out of curiosity..
Did anyone see the 1st jesus xrist movie they made??
In some parts there it depicted him as being homosexual..
Also ..one unwarranted fact..
in the original Romeo and Juliet..
Juliet was played by a male becos females were not allowed in public theaters.

Marroe
12-18-2005, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Zero
no - no - no - i totally trust your advice. i have had many horrifically awkward 'dating' situations based on my general inability to pick up on the proper 'rules' or 'etiquette' of these things. . . so i think you are probably right haha, no I'm serious, I shouldn't be trying to give dating advice...realtionships MAYBE, I have had a decently long thing, but of course that ended:rolleyes: But I know now. Not saying I'm not for the dating because I've never done it, just no ones ever taken the time. Maybe one day:p Anyways...good luck with it.

MisterSadistro
12-18-2005, 03:09 PM
I'll eventually see it when it's on cable since I have no desire to see it at the theater or renting it. I have no problem with it being gay. Hell, we all go to zombie movies but aren't zombies- well most of us anyway LOL. I have more of a problem with it being a western without Clint Eastwood (esp since I'm in pre-production on a 'Sin City' like western that will film next Sept).
CK

ItsAlive75
12-18-2005, 04:10 PM
I'm not gonna see it, but purely on the grounds that it just looks boring.

Zero
12-19-2005, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I'm not gonna see it, but purely on the grounds that it just looks boring.


sure - that's your story . . .



lol

newb
12-19-2005, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I'm not gonna see it, but purely on the grounds that it just looks boring.

ditto......i'm not big on romance movies...be it guy on girl,guy on guy, or girl on girl....well....maybe i'de watch that.

ItsAlive75
12-19-2005, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by newb
ditto......i'm not big on romance movies...be it guy on girl,guy on guy, or girl on girl....well....maybe i'de watch that.

Yeah, come on now "Mr. Manly Man", I never knew you'd pass up the gal-pal action.

Zero
12-19-2005, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by newb
ditto......i'm not big on romance movies...be it guy on girl,guy on guy, or girl on girl....well....maybe i'de watch that.

yeah - if it was Angelina Jolie and Charlize Theron as lonesome cowgirls out on the plains who get a little, uhm, affectionate - well newb would be camped out for tickets!

Despare
12-19-2005, 07:52 AM
I like to poke fun at movies and I have a feeling I'd offend a lot of people if I went to see this. Now, I don't mind offending people, but if I can prevent I always try heh. I remember the first time seeing the preview me and my friend were making jokes through the beginning of it only to find out that it WAS a gay cowboy movie, quite a good laugh.

Zero
12-19-2005, 08:02 AM
the joke was on you - - lol

she_died
12-19-2005, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Despare
I like to poke fun at movies and I have a feeling I'd offend a lot of people if I went to see this. Now, I don't mind offending people, but if I can prevent I always try heh. I remember the first time seeing the preview me and my friend were making jokes through the beginning of it only to find out that it WAS a gay cowboy movie, quite a good laugh.

The gay cowboy stereotype has been around for a while. It's about time someone made a movie about it!

Zero
12-19-2005, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by she_died
The gay cowboy stereotype has been around for a while. It's about time someone made a movie about it!

then the gay star trek has to be next! (oh and hten batman and robin can finally release all that pent up tension)

newb
12-19-2005, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Yeah, come on now "Mr. Manly Man", I never knew you'd pass up the gal-pal action.

Don't let it be said that newb doesn't have a sensitive side.

she_died
12-19-2005, 08:08 AM
If Star Trek embraced the gay audience, they might actually have a shot at keeping the franchise alive. Maybe a show about the adventures of two gay klingons or something

Zero
12-19-2005, 08:08 AM
pathetic

*shakes head in disgust and slowly walks away*

scouse mac
12-19-2005, 08:11 AM
A film about a relationship between gay cowboys? How fucking boring can you get? I work long hours for my money and i would not be wasting it on this (however i can see how it could be a good dating film).

newb
12-19-2005, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Zero
then the gay star trek has to be next! (oh and hten batman and robin can finally release all that pent up tension)

Gay super hero's.....its been done.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/888.jpg

she_died
12-19-2005, 08:13 AM
How about a show about the civil war, but everyone's gay in it?

Zero
12-19-2005, 08:16 AM
i don't know - blue and grey tend to clash

she_died
12-19-2005, 08:18 AM
i think with the right production designer, maybe they could bring in some mauves and taupes?

stubbornforgey
12-19-2005, 08:31 AM
did i read some of these replies right??
somebody disrespecting star trek..??.
Well...may njork from the planet kumbaharj infest a 1000 fleas on ure hairy ass..
:D

Zero
12-19-2005, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by stubbornforgey
did i read some of these replies right??
somebody disrespecting star trek..??.
Well...may njork from the planet kumbaharj infest a 1000 fleas on ure hairy ass..
:D

come on - everyone knows about spock and kirk - -

newb
12-19-2005, 08:55 AM
Don't forget about me
http://www.deansplanet.com/uploaded_images/takai-gay-733392.jpg

stubbornforgey
12-19-2005, 08:55 AM
that is just sad'..
you ppl are sad'....
c'mere spock...
c'mere kirk..'hug'
forgive the sinners who know not of what they speak..

HEATHENS. !!!!

Zero
12-19-2005, 08:57 AM
hmm

she_died
12-19-2005, 08:58 AM
don't worry stubborn, i'm a trek nerd from way back. now that you know takei is gay, you have to go back and watch that episode where he goes nuts and prances around the ship shirtless with a rapier. great stuff.

Zero
12-19-2005, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by she_died
don't worry stubborn, i'm a trek nerd from way back. now that you know takei is gay, you have to go back and watch that episode where he goes nuts and prances around the ship shirtless with a rapier. great stuff.

now i know what a tricorder is for . . .

newb
12-19-2005, 09:00 AM
http://www.thyla.com/LJT-OneMoreKiss.jpg

she_died
12-19-2005, 09:01 AM
it's really gaydar

http://www.geocities.com/phaserresource/tricorder.jpg

hmm, jim, i'm not sure. we're going to have to probe deeper

newb
12-19-2005, 09:03 AM
http://www.thyla.com/joy-VSky.jpg

she_died
12-19-2005, 09:05 AM
another gem from newb's personal collection. breathtaking!

Zero
12-19-2005, 09:06 AM
hmmm

newb
12-19-2005, 09:07 AM
HEY....JUST HOLD ON A TIC......OK one more

http://www.thyla.com/ksmissingscene.jpg

she_died
12-19-2005, 09:07 AM
zwoti. step in! this needs to be split into a separate thread. funny that a gay star trek pic post would be the only active one on horror.com lol

newb
12-19-2005, 09:13 AM
lol....heavens forbid a thread goes off-topic here on HDC.

I couldn't believe i found a whole website dedicated to gay Star Trek pics.

http://www.thyla.com/fan-art.html

she_died
12-19-2005, 09:15 AM
found? don't you mean founded?

Zero
12-19-2005, 09:17 AM
but - back to the original spirit of this thread - should it matter to us if Spock and Kirk were madly in love - are their adventures less exciting, are the klingons less defeated, are the tribbles less, uhm, tribbling?

in the name of tolerance i embrass my gay trekkie brothers! (and sisters and, uhm, well anyone else)

she_died
12-19-2005, 09:24 AM
i have a lot of respect for guys like rob halford and kevin williamson who blaze a rainbow trail into uncharted homophobic terrirories (heavy metal and horror respectively). i think eventually the cooties connotation around anything gay will fade away, just like other social intolerances have in the past... except in the bible belt

newb
12-19-2005, 09:25 AM
But i'm a manly man...er...i got four kids....um.......HOW ABOUT THEM PATRIOTS KICKING TAMPA BAY'S ASS.


Now it doesn't get more manly than football.....what with tight-ends and all that ass slapping.

she_died
12-19-2005, 09:27 AM
yeah, you don't want to know what goes on in hockey locker rooms, either. jocks are the most hypocritical homophobes!

Haunted
12-19-2005, 09:28 AM
Bound... do you guys remember or did you see, Bound? Oi vey! Gena Gershon...Jennifer Tilly... I'd let them fuck me.:D

ItsAlive75
12-19-2005, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Haunted
Bound... do you guys remember or did you see, Bound? Oi vey! Gena Gershon...Jennifer Tilly... I'd let them fuck me.:D

Me too.

Zero
12-19-2005, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Haunted
Bound... do you guys remember or did you see, Bound? Oi vey! Gena Gershon...Jennifer Tilly... I'd let them fuck me.:D

and what's that - -- you're going to force me to watch . . . no, please, don't make me - - - -


lol

The STE
12-19-2005, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Marroe
quick for a relationship! Of course. But dating...I'd say if you like one person enough to go on more than 3 dates with you're dating them. But like I said...I've never been on a date so what do I know?

I disagree. I went out with this one girl 3 weekends in a row and got shot down after the third one

Zero
12-19-2005, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by The STE
I disagree. I went out with this one girl 3 weekends in a row and got shot down after the third one


see- and if it could happen to a suave stud like STE then it could surely happen to me

The STE
12-19-2005, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by Zero
then the gay star trek has to be next! (oh and hten batman and robin can finally release all that pent up tension)

They already did. It was called Batman and Robin



I got into a really retarded argument about this movie on the IMDB message board. Someone started a topic saying that this movie wouldn't be as acclaimed as it is if it weren't about gay cowboys

ItsAlive75
12-19-2005, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by The STE
Someone started a topic saying that this movie wouldn't be as acclaimed as it is if it weren't about gay cowboys

I agree. It's not a "bold" idea, it's just a bad one.

The STE
12-19-2005, 11:11 AM
Well, I didn't DISagree. My argument was that it was a dumb fuck theory to begin with. Who cares how much acclaim it would get if it were a different movie?

Zero
12-19-2005, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I agree. It's not a "bold" idea, it's just a bad one.

i, for one, want to see it - i've liked eveyrthing ang lee has done (except for the Hulk) so i'm open to the possibility

ItsAlive75
12-19-2005, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by The STE
Who cares how much acclaim it would get if it were a different movie?

The people who stand to make money off of the movie.

The_Return
12-19-2005, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I'm not gonna see it, but purely on the grounds that it just looks boring.

^^

My thoughts exactly.

MichaelMyers
12-19-2005, 02:09 PM
If King Kong had had anal sex with that T-Rex instead of killing it, it would have walked away with all the awards this year.

Despare
12-19-2005, 03:52 PM
If Brokeback Mountain was in black and white and maybe a foreign language the critics would have named it best movie ever.

Haunted
12-19-2005, 04:35 PM
I actually agree with you there. 'O course I'd have to listen to my conservative (and not the kind you can tolerate) family and well neck of the country bitch about it, though.

Oh and S, is your comment about "who cares if it was a different movie," the same as, "People would like me better if I wasn't Haunted?" Just want to make sure that I understand you.:)

The STE
12-19-2005, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
The people who stand to make money off of the movie.

My point is, it doesn't matter how much acclaim it would get if it were different, because that's not the movie they made.

The STE
12-19-2005, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Haunted
I actually agree with you there. 'O course I'd have to listen to my conservative (and not the kind you can tolerate) family and well neck of the country bitch about it, though.

Oh and S, is your comment about "who cares if it was a different movie," the same as, "People would like me better if I wasn't Haunted?" Just want to make sure that I understand you.:)

I'm not following

Haunted
12-20-2005, 03:53 AM
Okay, let me see if I can make more sense.

The person said it'd make more money if it were a different movie. That's a moot point, right? I mean, if Ghostbusters was actually called "Pet Sitters" and was about four guys that suited up and used radioactive particle beams to manage their animals...well then, it wouldn't be Ghostbusters would it? So, the point would be stupid.

So, if Kong was about a giant bunny instead of ape, but the bunny did similar things, it still wouldn't be Kong, so it's (once again) a moot and stupid point.

That's the best way that I know how to explain myself. Then again, It's pretty early here, and I just woke up.:D

Soloman Kane
12-20-2005, 07:22 AM
Every once in awhile I like a break from the red gore. So this might be a rental but I'am not going out of my way to see it. I hope it has a good story but really it doesn't matter to me if the characters are gay. I'am hoping the picture is well written & Ang Lee didn't foul it up but it's a rental. After the Hulk I really want to like another film of his. :)
One more thing I'd like to add to is the fact that this isn't a remake! At least its original! :)