Goodbye

[Haunted]

...Until we meet again...!

I'm going into the hospital today. I have to go for psychiatric care and evaluation. They have to change all of my medicines.

I don't know when I'll be back.

Last night I slit both of my legs up and my wrist. So, my psychiatrist wants me to come in and find out what's going wrong.

I love you guys, and I'll miss you.

[ChEEbA]

Good luck with the clotting process.
But seriously...get your head right...that shit is selfish, and never solves anything.

[The STE]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
get your head right

yeah, good luck with all that

[slasherman]

hmmmmm....cant help

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by Haunted
[BI

Last night I slit both of my legs up and my wrist. [/B]
well theres a dumb choice you'll have to live with for the rest of your life....:rolleyes:

sry i just think cutting is one of the stupidest things you could do to yourself.

[meetthecreeper]

I dont really know what to say.

I wish you would have contacted me to talk instead.

[scouse mac]

Good luck and best wishes. Hope you get yourself sorted out

[filmmaker2]

We await your return. Go get better quick so we can message some more! Free gift when you get back (worth $10!).

[Haunted]

Originally posted by The Mothman
well theres a dumb choice you'll have to live with for the rest of your life....:rolleyes:

sry i just think cutting is one of the stupidest things you could do to yourself.

Thank you for your nonhelpfullness (if that's a word)

Anyway, scratch this. The doctor on call decided that since I wasn't immediately endangered, I was not a candidate for hospitilization. So, I think I'll have to work my shit out on my own.

The reason I shared this with you guys is because most of you are the kind of people I could talk to any and every day.

Thanks for the support.

I'm tired and (admittedly my fault, my arms and legs hurt. Plus everyone in my family is treating me like a pariah.

[filmmaker2]

Okay, now heal up now! Zzzzzzzip! And no more creepy movies! just keeding.

[scouse mac]

Glad to hear you're not in too bad a way (physically at least :( )
Whatever the problem is, and whilst this is your battle to fight, im sure everyone here will be more than happy help in any way even if it is just talking a load of rubbish about films!

[novakru]

Sorry to hear about your hard times Haunted...I hope you have a fast cycle of recovery:)

[ItsAlive75]

Get better and I'll let you punch me in the face.

[filmmaker2]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Get better and I'll let you punch me in the face.



WOW....................that's COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[The STE]

Get better and I'll mail you a PS2

[zomb5150]

I hope that everything works out for You.

[Elvis_Christ]

I've been to some dark depths within myself.... and theres no easy answer. If i knew you well I'd buy you a beer, sing you a song to keep the knife from yourself but sometimes shit don't work out that way and there's nothing anyone can say.

......smoke a joint, watch the breakfast club and PM me some complaints. Cause as much as the world sucks at times its all we've got.

but yeh there's strength in numbers and they can't get us all :)

....as much as they try.....

[Haunted]

I wish I had a joint to smoke...my ex boyfriend sold The Breakfast Club for McDonalds money. Shit head. Anyway...

I'm resting on the fact that the next time I do something like this, they're carting me off to the state hospital (Broughton Asylum). I think I'll skip that part.

Thanks to the well wishers. Piss on anyone who made a stupid and or nasty comment.

[novakru]

There's the spirit!
You get your ass better now...and finish that book sweetie.
Your stronger than you think:)

[massacre man]

ask Bloodrayne, she can help with anything

[nine9]

OMG...you sure got some mean replies on this! Well I have been in that dark place many times myself...I am probably way late on saying this but good luck and believe that you are worthy of your life because you are....you are intelligent, kind and beautiful... :)

[pinkfloyd45769]

I hope you are doing well, Haunted. Sorry people were being assholes!!!!

[MichaelMyers]

Haunted, I have good news. Kittie is scouting the country for a pseudo-goth lead singer for their new Mark Burnett reality show. Atlanta auditions are November 3.

[massacre man]

Originally posted by nine9
OMG...you sure got some mean replies on this! Well I have been in that dark place many times myself...I am probably way late on saying this but good luck and believe that you are worthy of your life because you are....you are intelligent, kind and beautiful... :) *looks around* where did you come from?

[Haunted]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Haunted, I have good news. Kittie is scouting the country for a pseudo-goth lead singer for their new Mark Burnett reality show. Atlanta auditions are November 3.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..*cough *

Thank you so much for trivializing my issues. I hope that one day I might be able to do you the same favor, jackass.

[The STE]

mine's not included in the "mean responses" thing, right?

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by Haunted
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..*cough *

Thank you so much for trivializing my issues. I hope that one day I might be able to do you the same favor, jackass.

We make sacred pact. I promise teach karate to you, you promise learn. I say, you do, no questions.

http://www.satiricpress.com/sp/archive/2004-05-24/img_morita2.jpg

[Carpe Noctem]

Originally posted by Haunted
...Until we meet again...!

I'm going into the hospital today. I have to go for psychiatric care and evaluation. They have to change all of my medicines.

I don't know when I'll be back.

Last night I slit both of my legs up and my wrist. So, my psychiatrist wants me to come in and find out what's going wrong.

I love you guys, and I'll miss you.

Remember, it's down the road, not across the street.

I'm such an asshole.

Good luck.

[ChEEbA]

Thank you so much for trivializing my issues.

You did that yourself, by your acts, and in this thread.
What you attempted was either -
a: A complete cunt of an act that would severely fuck up the lives of your family and those around you..people who have probably (for the better part) done nothing but been there for you through every little incident you've gone through. Do you think they enjoy this when it happens? I doubt it, you self centered ASSHOLE.
b: A cry for help or attention, assuming from the beggining that your efforts would fail. But what if they didn't? Back to point A.
The world owes you nothing. Nobody can help you, but you.

YOU trivialize LIFE...Too bad not everyone is here to pat you on the back after your stupid, inconsiderate behaviour. Perhaps if you had more realistic expectations, you could be a more realistic person.
:rolleyes:

[ChEEbA]

I know you're referring to me...any time you want, you can talk to me, right to my face. I'm not about to hide behind bullshit forum laws when speaking my mind, you shouldn't either.
I'm not going to comdemn your views - you're the one that has to live with them, and any eventual outcome thereof.

If you refuse to support Haunted in what others would find her time of need, you could at least keep quiet on the subject.
It's a subject with which I have personal (indirect) experience, from the MAJORITY of the replies in here, I would be doubtful that most could say the same.

A majority of us are behind you Haunted
Yeah man, by all means...throw all the attention and sympathy you can towards the girl, so she can try this shit again next time she feels a little...unloved? bored? attention starved?
Next time it might work too, who's gonna be the asshole then, man?

They have no CLUE what they're talking about or how to have a little compassion for people. Its amazing they walk through life without incident. And if incident does occur, it's even more amazing how they survive.
Is that for me too?
Picture this, you're ten years old. Living with your 11 year old sister, your mother and her spouse...and you've just got the news that you're going to have a new baby brother or sister...you think it's pretty cool, your mothers asshole boyfriend decides to ditch her, and you get that as a second announcement for the day. Shit...new house, new school...but you're used to this, because it's happened about 5 times in your life by then.
What you're not used to is waking up the next day to find the panicked spouse trying to wake up your mother who looks fucking dead after deliberately trying to pill herself to death, why? A man...Imagine seeing that, your sister crying, and thinking maybe you won't be getting that new brother/sister after all.
Try to picture this spouse being a totally irresponsible fuck that wouldn't bite the bullet and call the police or a doctor, afraid his reputation in the community would be damaged. Lying to neighbours, schoolmates, and teachers about "where's mum?" for a whole week while your mother dragged themselves through their recovery, barely conscious, laying in their own shit and vomit most of the time while you thought, due to constant reminder, that you were going to be in some kind of terrible trouble if you told ANYONE...all the while wondering if next time you came home, this time, she'd be dead. Imagine this was you, because I don't have to imagine.
It was pretty fucked up, I can imagine it was for my sister too, and as bad as that was, it could've been a lot worse had that fucking mental bitch succeeded.
I walked through this, and "survived" this incident, so I believe I'm pretty fucking qualified to comment, and I don't feel bad about it in any way.
There's NEVER a reason good enough, it's a selfish fucking heartless act, and anyone who does it ought to fucking serve time...because never will a suicide, attempted or succeeded go without ripping those around you to peices.
So, in closing - next time you want to judge my comments about football? fine. About motorsports? fine. About legal or political issues, go right ahead.
Don't ever question me, or judge my comments on this matter again...that goes for anyone who thinks I'm "mean" or an asshole, for merely speaking reality...I cannot tell you how little I give a fuck.
Have a nice day.:rolleyes:
- B

[ChEEbA]

And all I'm saying is if you're not going to support her, why make her feel worse by calling her a self-centered asshole?
Because she should...

But I also learned in New York growing up that ya dont kick a person when they're down. That's a cowardly thing to do. And doesnt make a man a man.
Neither does being an ass-crawler, or assuming geography has, or should have anything to do with this matter.
"Support" all you want, because I am SURE that nobody that has ever made an attempt on their own life would try it again...would they?

That's a cowardly thing to do as well.
Yep, that's me...big coward.
I'd rather be, than a fool...especially so publicly as yourself...but hey, it's not as though I'm not aware of your underlying reasons.
Can anyone say "the quest continues?" I'm pretty sure if it was a GUY you'd not step up to the plate as you have today...of course you'll say I'm wrong, but of course I'll just think you're as full of shit as ever...man, you're just the same cock weilding pervert you always were. It's a shame...and you don't even think to drop it for long enough to realise you're being a completely irresponsible twat, same as all the other pathetic sympathisers...for whatever reasons THEY might have.
Thanks for making your views on me so clear, couldn't quit without returning the favour, bud.
Have a good 'un, and don't worry, someone will buy into your act...one of these days...good choice on the damaged goods;)

[Haunted]

I came to the mb, because I don't have many friends, and I wanted a little support from people that I've known a while. I didn't mean to stir up trouble, and the last time I checked, talking in a cyber place or a bar to your friends wasn't attention whoring.

I mean, what was I supposed to do? I was by myself, bleeding, and there was nobody to talk to. So, I came here. The last place on Earth. I'm sorry if that was so wrong. I just didn't know what else to do.

Before the fact, I didn't want to talk to anyone, but after I'd gained some rationality, I wanted an ear (or eye as the case may be).

So say whatever you want to about me. It doesn't matter. I'm an unconscionable human being, you're an unconscionable human being. We're in the same boat. We may as well not tip it over.

[stubbornforgey]

I sympathise with you and yes it is great when you feel that when you have nobody to talk to in R/L you can come to a forum and let it all out..most of the time you find support..and as you can see..sometimes you don't.
CheEba..obviously you have dealt with your shit by being angry ..what you must have been going through is a fucker..however...its doesnt give you the authority on the subject..yelling, screaming..being abusive is not going to get you anywhere but a reputation for being a right dickwad.
Many of us have had to deal with crap in our lives..some of them too deep to mention and we have all dealt with them in our own way.
I too feel like you..'hurting yourself is pretty sick shit' but what leads a person to want to hurt themselves is sicker still..none of us can offer a solution as we are not qualified but we can offer at least a supporting ear.
You dont give a fuck''thats kewl!!no body is actually asking.

[fannyface]

I'm sorry but I reckon Haunted's right. You are all silly. petty boring fuckers and I for one wish to take no more part of this pish! Goodbye! :mad:

[fannyface]

p.s. why are australians such whiney bastards anyway?

[fannyface]

[i]being abusive is not going to get you anywhere but a reputation for being a right dickwad.
[/B]

like I mentioned before... ;)

[MoonLit Meadow]

Cheeba-I'm sorry for what you had to witness, with regard to the story you posted. I truly am. Nobody should have to go through that, and I can't begin to imagine the pain it must've caused you and those that you loved.

On the other hand, not everyone's situation is the same. Everybody deals with things differently. Some people have "better" ways of dealing with things than others. When I get angry, or depressed....I don't cut myself. However, some people do...and whether you want to believe it or not, it's not always in their control. As an outsider, I may think it's stupid...or selfish...etc. But I'm not in the state of mind where I would think that I needed to do that, so who am I to judge? I don't know what that kind of desperation feels like.

If something like what happened to you had happened to me, you better believe I'd be angry about it...but if somebody else found themselves in the same situation...maybe I'd try and help them, and share my story with them...so they could perhaps see what kind of damage and pain they would cause to THEIR family if they did it...I'm not sure I'd take my anger out AT THEM...

I don't know about Haunted's life, but I have to imagine that she feels the way she does for a reason. Just like I act out in certain ways about certain things for reasons only I know...or anyone else does for that matter.
I agree with the fact that we have to be responsible for our actions, and that we have to help ourselves. But sometimes in order to help ourselves and change, we have to know that there are people around us who love us and are there to support us...

I'm glad that you're a strong person who seems to be quite capable of taking care of himself...but not everyone is like that...not everyone is that strong. We all have our breaking point, and how we act in times like that will always vary.

I can respect that you feel that suicide, etc is a selfish act...but I'm not sure I can agree with you attacking Haunted herself...People who are thinking of it (suicide, etc) aren't in a "normal" state of mind...if they were, they probably WOULD think about the consequences, etc...and they wouldn't do it.

Mental health issues are REAL, and they have to be treated. To tell somebody whose suffering from schizohprenia, psychosis, depression, etc that they should just get over it and "help themselves" just doesn't work. What also doesn't work, I have to imagine, is making them feel worse about themselves. The act itself may be a terrible thing...but to attack the person....I can't say I agree with that.

I have a B.A in Psychology, so I'd like to think that I'm somebody whose sensitive and mature enough to deal with this subject with an open mind...even though I don't have "personal" experience with it. And I'm pretty sure that Trippin' HAS had personal experience with the matter, but I could be wrong...so, I have to believe his intention here is only to support her...not wave his dick in her face ;) Or whatever was said.

Anyway, not that it matters to anyone...but what matters to me is that people realize those who suffer from any mental health related issue shouldn't be looked at as selfish or crazy, etc...but as people who obviously need help...there's a person there...not just the "issue". However, that doesn't mean I excuse the things they do...I don't buy into every person whose on trial and tries to plead insanity, etc. But I realize that those who TRULY suffer from a m.h related issue have real problems that take time to resolve...and sometimes, sadly...there is no resolution.

Haunted, I genuinely hope that you continue seeking treatment for whatever it is that's going on in your life...and that through that treatment, you deal with your issues and become an even better person than you already are.

Cheeba-We've always been friends, and this is in no way an attempt for me to be a bastard toward you. I'm just honestly surprised you reacted in the way that you did. But you have your reasons, I know. Again.. you just surprised me...I may not agree, but I'm not trying to judge...just stating my opinion b/c it's an issue I care about...just like everyone else.

[Marroe]

As I state my opinion here (I guess I can, everyone else seems to be), I am not "siding" with anyone elses opinions, or putting Haunted down in any way...just speaking from my own experiences with a suicidal mother.
After my mom left my dad she went nuts, went thru boyfriend after boyfreind...and I swear after each and every breakup she "attempted" suicide in one way or another, was put in the hospital numerous times, got put in all sorts of anti-depressants...you get it I'm sure. And why did she do this only after breakups? Simple, for attention. And after each and every one of these attempts people would walk on eggshells around her, and totally baby her...why? In fear she would do it again bacause we all knew she would.
The last time this happened was almost exactly one year ago. Her husband left her for probably about the 5th time for his ex. She was staying with me at the time...when I came home from work this day, I was shocked to see my little brother sitting in the living room floor surrounded by broken glass, crying. I started looking around my apartment and saw there were broken picture frames all over the place, blood all over the furniture, the walls, the floor, my little brother...you name it. So I checked to see if he was ok...nothing coming from him, so I went to the bedroom. My mom's husband was standing in the doorway, I pushed past him and saw my mother on the floor bleeding from both arms, and when I glanced in the bathroom I saw sleeping pills oll over the floor.
I asked her husband what the fuck he was thinking having my little brother here during this...and he said he couldn't leave because my mom needed him there, and he was trying to get her up to go to the hospital. So I told him to fuck off and get my little brother out of here, and finally after a bit of argueing and frantic screaming, he did.
That night I didn't take my mother to the hospital, I didn't even talk to her until she got off her ass and came to me..then all I did was yell at her and tell her what a selfish bitch she was...gave her a box and bandages and told her to clean up herself and help me clean up her mess. Of course she didn't...after about 3 hours of nothing she finally came into the living room and tried to "talk" to me. This turned into the most intense conversation I have ever had in my entire life...I'm not going to get into the entire conversation because this post is already much longer then I'd hoped it would be...but I will say I did make her realize how selfish, and stupid she was being every time she did this, rather than walk on eggshells around her. She didn't like it much that night, she kept threatening me with doing it again...but I really, truely didn't give a fuck at that point. It wasn't until about a week later she actually thanked me for making her realize exactly what she was doing to herself, and our family. Yes, she THANKED me. So what the point of this long, boring post is....maybe Haunted doesn't need to be babied for her actions here. As I've learned with my mother, it only gave her an exuse to do it again...more attention. Personally, I'd rather have positive attention. Maybe someone DID need to tell her exactly how she was acting to make her realize her life is worth a more than what she makes it out to be.
As much as you people want to call Cheeba an asshole for what he said, and think he doesn't care about Haunted...I can tell you from my experience with my mother, that it's the exact opposite. And as TTR said about never having "incident in life"...words like that come from the exact opposite in life.

[pinkfloyd45769]

I understand that some people dont agree with what Haunted did, but why come to her thread and say negative things? I dont want to piss anyone off, however did you ever here of "if you cant say something nice dont fucking post?" Sorry you have to you Haunted that your thread has to be filled with bullshit! Sorry to you as well Cheeba for what you have went through in your life, but it seems to me you would be more compassionate:(

[Spallalala]

Im sure that many of us have been in the situation where they have either tried to kill themselves or have been around someone that has tried.
I have been in both situations. My mother slit her wrists in front of me when I was 5 or 6, with a bottle she had just smashed over the wardrobe.
Im not here for any kind of sympathy from anyone so please dont give any.

You dont have to run to a forum to get help or sympathy, there is professional help out there, they will help more then anyone in here could.

As for you lot bitching at comments made by cheebs, I say get over it. He isn't being an asshole. He has just witnessed many stupid things that haunted has displayed in here.

Not here to bitch just telling you what I have seen.

Haunted, get some help, eat healthy, dont drink too much and be happy ok. Get back to being who you were when I first spoke to you. You have changed alot since then.

And Meadow it is possible to control what you are doing to yourself.

[Spallalala]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
I cant stand by idley and let him put her down like that.

Its funny you say that trippin because I think the same way when people bitch at cheeba. Im not gonna sit by and let people in here have a go at him for voicing his opinion.

[MoonLit Meadow]

Originally posted by Spallalala

And Meadow it is possible to control what you are doing to yourself.

Maybe, but not until you get the right kind of treatment...and like I said, even then...sometimes there's nothing that can be done...trust me...not that Haunted is a schizophrenic or suffering from psychosis, etc...but those who are...they can't help themselves...it's a disorder that in most cases, is so severe that it needs therapy and often medication.

[Marroe]

no one is degrading her...just trying to make her realize this is no way to get attention. I mean, name one other good reason you'd TRY to kill yourself, then post a thread about it on a forum, or attempt the act all? If people really want to kill themselves for any reason other than attention...they'd suceed. Not trying to sound morbid about it, but it's true.

[pinkfloyd45769]

Im not on anyones "side"..... no wait, I have only been a member here for a few months and since then all I ever read is bullshit bitching and then the few that chime in to stir the shit, my point is, as I have told another member(you know who you are;) ) there are only a handful of people on here who have been a friend to me in my times of need and I intend to do the same! To everyone who feels the need to post another rediculous comment on this thread, the more you stir shit the worse it smells, I think it should just stop!!!!!

[MoonLit Meadow]

Originally posted by pinkfloyd45769
the more you stir shit the worse it smells, I think it should just stop!!!!!

Mine smells like roses, yours doesn't? muahahahah;) :p I kid, I kid. Wait, no I don't...it really does smell like roses.

[Spallalala]

Originally posted by MoonLit Meadow
Maybe, but not until you get the right kind of treatment...and like I said, even then...sometimes there's nothing that can be done...trust me...not that Haunted is a schizophrenic or suffering from psychosis, etc...but those who are...they can't help themselves...it's a disorder that in most cases, is so severe that it needs therapy and often medication.

Treatment or not. It is possible to control your actions. You just decide if you wanna go through with something or not.

I do believe that Haunted has admitted to having something wrong. ( if im wrong my apologies )

[pinkfloyd45769]

I think everyone agrees she has some issues, so why is it so wrong to support her??

[stubbornforgey]

gee funny that came up ..
yesterday had a visit from my nephew who was SO ANGRY with his ex girlfreind..'he showed me a txt which read'..
soz to let ya no but ***** was killed last nite in a car smash'her lst words woz to tell u tht she loved u till the end'

of course he was devastated untill he was at the florist when he bumped into her brother..turned out to be a huge LIE.
Her own brother was disgusted ..so he has told her to lose her number ..cos thats sick shit..!!now shes txting for forgiveness..how do you forgive someone for spinning crap like that..??
I dont think u can.

[Marroe]

more right. Have you ever been in a psych ward? Have you ever seen mentally ill patients? THEY CANT CONTROL THEMSELVES!! and did YOU know that people that are truely psychotic, don't know it

[slasherman]

Originally posted by slasherman
hmmmmm....cant help
..:rolleyes:

[Spallalala]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Nobody bitched at him. I simply made views that I thought he was wrong. He felt compelled to argue his case, admirable, but that doesnt make him any more right. Have you ever been in a psych ward? Have you ever seen mentally ill patients? THEY CANT CONTROL THEMSELVES!! So your prior statement is wrong. Thank the higher being that Haunted had enough mental capabilities to realize she needed help. Whether it be by coming here or going to the psychward. Either way, she is dealing with it.
Bottom line is this, there are people in this world that cant handle things as others do. They must be taught to do so. Tough love is one way, but there is no love tough or otherwise in calling someone who needs help a self-centered asshole. I'm not attacking Cheeba, I'm attacking his insensativity towards his fellow man/woman.

If you think its not possible to control yourself, then so be it.
I dont think my statement is wrong.

I have never been in a psych ward but my I know someone that has worked in the area.

[stubbornforgey]

'm sorry but I reckon Haunted's right. You are all silly. petty boring fuckers



What the fucks up with that..??
This Haunted is spinning on one side an stabbing on the next..??

shit enough of coronation street drama's..lets get back to what thi forum is all about ..HORROR DISCUSSIONS

[MoonLit Meadow]

Originally posted by stubbornforgey
'm sorry but I reckon Haunted's right. You are all silly. petty boring fuckers



What the fucks up with that..??
This Haunted is spinning on one side an stabbing on the next..??

shit enough of coronation street drama's..lets get back to what thi forum is all about ..HORROR DISCUSSIONS

Why would you even want to discuss ANYTHING with all of us silly, petty, boring fuckers? ;)

[Marroe]

Originally posted by stubbornforgey
'm sorry but I reckon Haunted's right. You are all silly. petty boring fuckers



What the fucks up with that..??
This Haunted is spinning on one side an stabbing on the next..??

shit enough of coronation street drama's..lets get back to what thi forum is all about ..HORROR DISCUSSIONS why not mosey on over to another thread then? Another forum? No offense sweetie ;) general discussion area here.

[pinkfloyd45769]

Good point MM, I guess thats what I meant by the ones who feel the need to chime in!

[Spallalala]

Stubborn, obviously your not clear on the situation. I suggest you stay outta it.

I think all the arguing isnt helping either. Haunted some advice. Start from the bottom, and work you way up slowly. Dont rush yourself. You will get yaself sorted, just takes a lil time.

[Ritualistic]

Haunted you know if you ever need me I am here.

[stubbornforgey]

..none taken ..was just wondering about that post from fanny (2nd or 3rd page).

[Spallalala]

How about people give ideas on how Haunted can help herself instead of saying sorry or bitching about her mental state. Im sure its not helping her at all.

[pinkfloyd45769]

Originally posted by Spallalala
How about people give ideas on how Haunted can help herself instead of saying sorry or bitching about her mental state. Im sure its not helping her at all. I agree! Im sure the bitching isnt helping. How can we help you Haunted????

[pinkfloyd45769]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Well, I thought I was adressing the mental illness issue, but I could be wrong. And that's all we were trying to do before Cheeb insinuated that I was using this to wave my dick in her face. But I'll agree. There's plenty of us here that are willing to help her. But the negativity, I'm sure hurts. And she doesnt need any of that. I think you have a right to bitch,but I know Haunted knows you are here to help her. Im here for her to and I hope she gets better!! I also agree that the negativity isnt helping.

[Spallalala]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
And that's all we were trying to do before Cheeb insinuated that I was using this to wave my dick in her face.

Im pretty sure he didn't say it like that did he.
Maybe you should stop acting like a perverted dick around certain females in here then.

Anyway enough of that.

[meetthecreeper]

Haunted-you know where I am if you ever need me. I pray to the Gods that you feel better. I love you so very much.

Trippin the Riff-I dont care if your a perv. What man isnt??? Kudos to you brother for doing what you do.

Cheebs-Disappointment-thats all I can say. I know a thing or 2 about you. The pot shouldnt be calling the kettle anything.

By the way watch for my sign. I give out one and thats it. Next time no mercy. By the by, I feel for you also in the pain you have gone thru. But instead of acting this way, maybe you should be a bit more understanding. If you cant do that then maybe you should just be quiet.

Oh yea and anybody who just came in here to be a jagoff. Dagda got something for you.

[novakru]

I don't care who you are or what you've done-if you're at a low point-I'll say something uplifting and/or positive,if I am able.

Also,this just occured to me.
I am not so sure my previous attempt at suicide when I was young and in serious pain from abuse after abuse that it would have had much affect,but it would now.
I have kids now and that changes everything.
It Would be selfish now,and thank goodness I won't allow myself to fall into that comfortably numb emotion that beckons daily.
And thank goodness I have people around me now that WOULD say something to shake that mind-set when I do not feel I have the energy to do so for myself.

This is a tough issue,and I am not really sure what can make it better-I just know once someone is set on one extreme or the other-it rarely changes.

[Haunted]

Dagda gotta get behind The Morrighan;)

I'm determined to have a really great Samhain despite defecation from the mouths of the unconscienable. (It means- those without conscience- a truly horrible condition).

Unfortunately, I DO have psychosis, and thats just fyi. However, it's not my main issue. That would be "acute chronic depression" as the diagnosis reads. Mental illness runs in my family like wine. I couldn't escape it if I tried.

I swear to Goddess I was not attention whoring. I really and honestly just needed to spill my guts. There was no where else to go. As I said, I was alone, hurting, and more than a little upset. I needed a place to unleash. You can bet your ass I won't come here for any support again.

Well, to those of you who maintained contact and friendship, I've figured out how to send one private message to a lot of people. So, if I ever get in a bad way again, I'll pm you guys with my phone number. That way, I can hear friendly voices (yes there's a pune there).

Once again, I'm really sorry this thread has escalated the way it has. I was expecting a few "Get well girl! Here's my number..." and then it'd fade into obscurity like the rest of my threads. (The one thread....sheesh :rolleyes: )

Thanks to those who've at least tried to understand. A big thanks to who've been supportive through "hell week." A big raseberry to those who don't know what in the cornbread hell they're talking about. Finally a big middle finger to anyone who called me a name or was in anyway derrogatory.

As you can tell I've made friends with the WWW (Wicked Witch of the West), and she's teaching me some tricks. So some of youse betta watch out!;) What with it bein' Samhain and everything.

[Marroe]

well this is from Cheeba...see he can't post because he was banned And if you feel the need to ban me for posting this for him, all is well. It's bullshit, but all good.



"p.s. why are australians such whiney bastards anyway?
Neither race or nationality defines you as a person...don't embarrass yourself, and do not speak ill of my countrymen.

its doesnt give you the authority on the subject..
Never said it did, just that I was in a valid position to comment.

Sorry to you as well Cheeba for what you have went through in your life, but it seems to me you would be more compassionate
I don't waste my compassion on those that would (potentially) use it to justify further attention seeking attempts on their life...I would not want to live with myself otherwise.

Have you ever been in a psych ward? Have you ever seen mentally ill patients? THEY CANT CONTROL THEMSELVES!!
So, if your daughter happened to have her throat slashed in her sleep...and they found that the murderer was mentally ill, would you want to go any easier on him because he CLAIMED that he couldn't control himself? Even if in fact it was true, and he couldn't, would you feel no anger?
Suicide IS murder...it's just that the intended victim is ones self.
Their family and friends still have to deal with the loss, and I don't believe a person could be so far gone that they'd not so much as consider this. You might, I don't.
Ask Haunted...case in fact...is she actually saying that she didn't know what she was doing and literally could not control herself?
I'm thinking not.
As I said, it was either an inconsiderate (look it up) asshole of an act, or a very selfish cry for help. I'm not going to be made to feel sorry for saying what I've said...it's justified, and your inexperience in the matter serves only to cloud your judgement, I'm afraid. Your hearts bleed only nonsense...if it were an attempted murder, you'd have a different reaction, you don't have to agree, I know. Would you coddle them too? Tell THEM it was all ok? Be there for them?

We know this. And I think the majority believes its better to support her than it is to ridicule her
I did not RIDICULE anything.

And that's all we were trying to do before Cheeb insinuated that I was using this to wave my dick in her face.
Fair enough, in hindsight, it was a little below the belt. When one is judged and called a coward for their views, by one attempting to use such as leverage in an argument that shouldn't even BE one, one responds in kind. THIS one anyway. Your actions were in the past innapropriote, and I just thought I'd join in on the character assassination too, I didn't like it, I take it you didn't either.

Cheebs-Disappointment-thats all I can say. I know a thing or 2 about you. The pot shouldnt be calling the kettle anything.
ABOUT me, sure. I'd believe that.
However, you don't KNOW me, so any information you claim to have about me is biased at most. Now, I don't know you either, but from what I've seen, you seem smarter than to follow blindly like...how would you put it? sheeple?

instead of acting this way, maybe you should be a bit more understanding. If you cant do that then maybe you should just be quiet.
So you're saying your individual viewpoint is the be all and end all on this matter? It's because of my understanding that I say these things.
I should be quiet, eh? Well, I've said pretty much all I have to on the matter...and I can see that the majority of (if you don't mind me using your terminology yet again) SHEEPLE in here are only going to rip into me for simply being realistic, while they have no REAL understanding of the matter at hand...I see I'm not convincing anyone...maybe someone has to die, hm?
Perhaps if more people turned their back in disgust, little miss gimme would consider other, more productive ways of gaining recognition and attention, rather than thinking that at least if she fails again, she can fall upon the idiot matress instead.

Sorry to crash your sympathy party.
Seems I don't have a choice in the matter on whether to follow up on this discussion further or not, as I've been banned. Banned for voicing my opinion, it seems it's ok for anyone to rip into me, even in borderline racist ways...but when I speak the truth, I get banned.
Well, thankyou to whatever mod banned me...I expect you're busy running about with your damage control now, deleting my posts, by all means, you may...all those of any relevance have seen what I wanted them to, and will hopefully see this reply also. So I join the ranks of the banned knowing that I spoke only the truth you seek to supress, because you don't want to hurt anyones feelings. You're doing a GREAT job, don't let anyone tell you different.
I only request that you don't hold my friend responsible for doing this for me.

- B

[Spallalala]

Fucking Ridiculous .
Must be pretty easy to get banned in here then.

[crazy raplh]

good luck

[stubbornforgey]

Banned??
for speaking an opinion??

[Haunted]

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17292

[The STE]

See, this is EXACTLY why I posted a jokey, non-commital phrase and left. But since shit hit fan anyways...




Okay, I'm confused. Did Haunted out-and-out say it was a suicide attempt, or just cutting? Cause it seems like everyone's saying "suicide attempt" EXCEPT her.

[Marroe]

Originally posted by stubbornforgey
Banned??
for speaking an opinion?? and hey, if you ever want someone banned all you have to do is suck on any one of the moderaters toes for a while...they'll do whatever you say. it's insane that we lost such a good poster/topic starter because they wanted to show a different perspective. Whether or not someone was my friend, or USED to be, I'd do it the same way. Nothing works better than a reality check.

I just hope for your sake Haunted, that you took something from some of those posts...as mean as they sound, it's all true. Hurting yourself is no way to gain attention. No matter what is wrong, it's not that bad. Things always work out for the best in the end, you just gotta see it thru. I don't even know if you read my post about my mother, or if it's even still there...but could you imagaine losing a mother over a man? I couldn't...and I had to get really fucking mean about it before she understood what it was doing to me, and our family. And I know your family, and friends couldn't imagine losing you for whatever is going on in your life now. Even if it wasn't a suicide attempt...you're still hurting yourself, and it could lead to death if you're not careful. Start considering others more...I know you wouldn't want to lose anyone like that.

[The STE]

Originally posted by Marroe
Even if it wasn't a suicide attempt...you're still hurting yourself, and it could lead to death if you're not careful.

Exact same thing could be said about smoking or drinking.

[Marroe]

Originally posted by The STE
Exact same thing could be said about smoking or drinking. this is true. And when I had a drinking problem going on, I was so glad someone threw it in my face like they did...Like I said, people need reality checks every once in a while.

[The STE]

Originally posted by Marroe
this is true. And when I had a drinking problem going on, I was so glad someone threw it in my face like they did...Like I said, people need reality checks every once in a while.

Not knowing what went on with the drinking problem or who threw it in your face (hell, it could've been me for all I know), I can't comment on that.

But "drinking problem" =/= this. This is more comparable to "drank to much last night and got alcohol poisoning"

[Marroe]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Ugh!!!! Marroe, I never attacked the man, just the insensativity he so knowingly and willingly displayed. If he so had the right to display that type of anger and diappointment, I so had the right to comment on it. The girl came here for help from her "so called" friends and was met with anger and hostility. I'm sure that the mod who saw fit to do this would have done it to any they felt deserved. Everyone know's I've been on that end of the rope. And deserved it at one time.

Now on the matter of the "my daughter" scenario. There would be no limit to my anger if that were to occur and trust me when I say the right authorities better catch up with the person responsable before I did. Totally different situations. There is a difference in bodily harm to yourself as opposed to that on someone else. And although I would understand that this person could not help themsef, I would most definately be extremely angry and vengeful.

Had Cheeba had chosen to show his disappointment with out the namecalling and the verbal attack he had no problem posting, I'd have kept my mouth shut. But he didnt so why should I? why "UGH!!!! Marroe" me? that was him, not me. I was just doing a favor. Call me out on one of MY opinions if need be....but I don't see much of a need here.

[Marroe]

Originally posted by The STE
Not knowing what went on with the drinking problem or who threw it in your face (hell, it could've been me for all I know), I can't comment on that.

But "drinking problem" =/= this. This is more comparable to "drank to much last night and got alcohol poisoning" and if someone you cared about got too drunk and got alcohol poisoning, and then went and did the same damn thing to themselves a week later, and you spoke nicely to them about their issue, then they turn around and do it a 3rd time...would you be nice about it then? I'd hope not. Things get a little silly after a while.

Not saying you said anything about it , just trying to make a point here...hope it came thru.

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by Marroe


ABOUT me, sure. I'd believe that.
However, you don't KNOW me, so any information you claim to have about me is biased at most. Now, I don't know you either, but from what I've seen, you seem smarter than to follow blindly like...how would you put it? sheeple?


So you're saying your individual viewpoint is the be all and end all on this matter? It's because of my understanding that I say these things.

- B [/B]

Well I dont agree with the banning. I think that is a little bit of nonsense seeing is all he has to do is come back with a name change.

Yes I don't KNOW you. Is my info bias. Perhaps. But I draw my own conclusions and dont paint everything with such a broad stroke of a brush.

Perhaps I will visit you in a dream some night and we can discuss further.

And I would never say that my view is the end all be all of anything in anyway. As a matter of fact I welcome all viewpoints and digest them individually based on there own merits.

I understand you have been thru similar situations. Do you think your brand of "TUFF LUV" makes things any better????

There is a difference between giving somebody an ass kickin' cos' you care for them and then there is just being rotten.

I dont care if she was crying out for help or not, when a human being is down do you give them your hand and help them up or do you put your boot on their throat and kick them while they are down???

Again Cheebs, its BS that you got banned but I would like it if you would carefully consider what I have said and then think about what you said. Maybe you were being a bit harsh?

Just for the record, normally I would be swinging my battle axe like a beserker right now, but I am in too good of a mood for that for tomorrows evening celebrations.

[The STE]

Originally posted by Marroe
and if someone you cared about got too drunk and got alcohol poisoning, and then went and did the same damn thing to themselves a week later, and you spoke nicely to them about their issue, then they turn around and do it a 3rd time...would you be nice about it then? I'd hope not. Things get a little silly after a while.

Not saying you said anything about it , just trying to make a point here...hope it came thru.

No, but that situation is still not this situation. THAT is a drinking problem.

I understand your point, I just don't agree with it in the least

[Marroe]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Marroe, there's a difference between being angry and being mean. He was just mean. That never makes anything better. Maybe being mean worked in your situation, but I hardly think it works in every situation. hey, I think I used the word "mean" also...not "angry". When all else fails with someone, what else is there to use? I'm not saying I don't feel bad that Haunted has problems...we all do, but we're all not trying to kill ourselves, or hurt ourselves in any way because of them. I think that anyone who uses suicide attemps, or cutting to get attention needs to be told how they're acting...EVEN my own mother.

[The STE]

Okay, this is going to get worse before...the thread gets locked...so I'll do one more post in this particular discussion and leave it at that.


I haven't read her say that it was a suicide attempt, so I will assume it wasn't. Which means it was just cutting.
I don't have a problem with cutting (hell, I used to cut). Whatever someone wants to do with their OWN body, I don't care one way or the other. Same with drinking, smoking, piercings, tattoos, S&M, black tar heroin, coat hangers, anything like that. I don't know the reasoning, whatever it may or may not be, for what Haunted did, so I can't judge or say anything about it. All I know is that she cut. I assume that there's a reasoning behind it, but for all I know she could just be a masochist. I agree, however, that cutting doesn't actually help problems. But neither do things like having a drink after a bad day, but people do that anyways and nobody bats an eye.
And I don't think this was for attention either. She didn't go on about it, she didn't give a lengthly diatribe about the reason for what she did, just a simple "this is what happened, I'll see ya later" not really ASKING for support even. This would all have gotten out anyways no matter how it went down now. Either she just goes away for a while without saying anything:
*Haunted comes back*
Some poster: Hey, Haunted, where ya been?
Haunted: Personal stuff.
Some poster: Sam has a limited amount of space for posting, so lets just pretend I and others have asked about the "personal stuff" a lot.
Haunted: *first post in this thread*
Or she just says that she'll be gone for a while and leaves:
*Haunted comes back*
Some poster: Sam has a limited amount of space for posting, so lets just pretend I and others have asked about the "personal stuff" a lot.
Haunted: *first post in this thread*

I don't think discussion at any length taking any side is going to do any good, be it support or getting in her face, cause in the end she's gonna do what she's gonna do. So, I'm gonna try and stay away from the main argument that's going on.

[MichaelMyers]

You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave.

[Spallalala]

For starters I dont think cheeba is coming back anytime soon. I dont blame him either. As for the banning that was just out of boredom right?

For some reason many of you dont seem to understand why he said what he did. Have none of you seen the way she acts??

I for one know she has gone over the top in expressing her mental issues, calling attention to them at any given opportunity. This thread is the same. " Look at me, look what other stupid shit I can do to myself, sympathise with me".
If it wasn't a cry for attention she wouldn't have posted it in a public forum.

Im glad cheebs said what he did. Maybe it will help Haunted in some ways..

Haunted not here to bitch at you, stating some facts that I have seen firsthand from you on the forums ok. I know you have been a bitch to him, ( and dont dare tell me otherwise).

Its over, cheeba aint coming back yet. Lets see who the assholes are now hey.

As for you trippin, Fuck you.

My apologies if I went too far, but I will stand up to people who wanna bitch at Cheeba for his comments.

[Haunted]

What you don't know about me could fill volumes of books. O' course I'm not saying that you'd want to know that much about me. So, for you to make blanket statements is preposterous. Not only that, I'm tired of you making assumptions about me.

The reason Spallalala, that I make a big deal about mental illness is because I'm something of an activist. I want people to know that it's like any other disease. I want people to understand that it's genetic and strikes at random. I caught from genes. Nothing I could do about it.

(Understand the difference between someone who is psychotic and someone who is a psychopath. Two totally different balls of wax).

I would like to know how I've been a bitch to Cheebs. I reamed him ONE time...count it, ONE time. I thought, and still believe that he was having a go at me so I reacted. I will DARE tell you otherwise, thank you so very much.

This is the point, Spallalala, where you need to step out of the conversation. Cheebs is gone, go with him. One of our US presidents (Abe Lincoln) once said, "It is far better to sit and silence and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." My point, nothing you've said has indicated that you know anything about what you're talking about, and I'm tired of it. Bugger off.

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by Spallalala
For starters I dont think cheeba is coming back anytime soon. I dont blame him either. As for the banning that was just out of boredom right?

For some reason many of you dont seem to understand why he said what he did. Have none of you seen the way she acts??

I for one know she has gone over the top in expressing her mental issues, calling attention to them at any given opportunity. This thread is the same. " Look at me, look what other stupid shit I can do to myself, sympathise with me".
If it wasn't a cry for attention she wouldn't have posted it in a public forum.

Im glad cheebs said what he did. Maybe it will help Haunted in some ways..

Haunted not here to bitch at you, stating some facts that I have seen firsthand from you on the forums ok. I know you have been a bitch to him, ( and dont dare tell me otherwise).

Its over, cheeba aint coming back yet. Lets see who the assholes are now hey.

As for you trippin, Fuck you.

My apologies if I went too far, but I will stand up to people who wanna bitch at Cheeba for his comments.


From now on, anyone who maliciously insults someone (including spammers, new members..) or tries to start a fight for ANY reason, it's goodbye. No ifs, No buts. You can come back with a different name, but do it again and you're gone again. No matter WHO you are, how long you have been here or what your reasons are...No more bullshit...We're ALL sick of it.

I'm guessing that's why he was banned. I don't really think he should have been banned, but according to these new rules... It's just that the way Cheeba posts does seem insulting at times, but it's how he gets his point across. I think he was just trying to help aswell as make you feel stupid for attempting to kill yourself, Haunted.
(which is what he thought you were trying to do, I'm pretty sure)

Not everyone can be educated on mental illness, nobody without depression can understand depression etc. At the core of things that sound ignorant to you, might be someone who honestly cares about you, Haunted. I hope Cheeba decides to come back and I hope you can understand eachother better.

Anyway, I don't think this was a cry for attention. If you were going to the hospital with a physical injury, you might post about it, no? Same thing to me.

[taylorsmommy]

Haunted, this is the first I've seen this thread. I'm so sorry I'm late in replying.

I feel for what you're going through - I can't say I know what you're going through because I don't, I've never done anything like this. However, my 16 year old niece has and has had a history since she was a small child of emotional problems.

For what it's worth, I'm here for you. If you ever need to talk, cry, laugh, bitch, whatever, I'm here for you, I have a huge box of Kleenex and a drip-dry shirt. Know that, believe it. I'll be saying many, many prayers for you sweetheart. You're a good person and I care about you. Granted, I don't really know you, but you've helped me in the past and you didn't have to do that. But, you did, and in my book that makes you a person worth knowing.

[newb]

Ladies & gentleman...without further ado...i give you...Sonny & Cher

CHORUS:
The beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da

Charleston was once the rage, uh huh
History has turned the page, uh huh
The mini skirts the current thing, uh huh
Teenybopper is our newborn king, uh huh

Chorus

The beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da
http://www.sundazed.com/artists/artistpage_gfx/artist_pics/sonnycherpic.jpg

[Angelakillsluts]

Originally posted by newb
Ladies & gentleman...without further ado...i give you...Sonny & Cher

CHORUS:
The beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da

Charleston was once the rage, uh huh
History has turned the page, uh huh
The mini skirts the current thing, uh huh
Teenybopper is our newborn king, uh huh

Chorus

The beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da
http://www.sundazed.com/artists/artistpage_gfx/artist_pics/sonnycherpic.jpg

lmao :p

[MoonLit Meadow]

Originally posted by Haunted
I make a big deal about mental illness is because I'm something of an activist. I want people to know that it's like any other disease. I want people to understand that it's genetic and strikes at random. I caught from genes. Nothing I could do about it.

(Understand the difference between someone who is psychotic and someone who is a psychopath. Two totally different balls of wax).



This is exactly what I was trying to say in my previous post. Mental illness has such a bad stigma attached to it...people usually assume that if a person wants to, they can just stop their behavior. That's just not true. With the right help, sometimes they can learn to control their behavior a bit...but it never truly goes away. Also, like Haunted said...alot of these illnesses are inherited, like schizophrenia, psychosis, etc. People inherit them because of genetic and/or a combination of environmental factors...again, not all...but in Haunted's case, genetic factors along with her life experiences seems to be the cause. Like she said, it runs in her family.

Again, I like to think I know something on the matter considering I actually studied it. I'm not just throwing out information that isn't true, I've done the research and know that it's backed up. I'm not trying to side with anyone. I respect both Cheeba and Haunted and their opinions. I may not always agree with what they say, but that's okay. That doesn't change the way I feel about either of them, and I can sympathize with both of their viewpoints (aside from the actual name calling).

If Haunted WAS looking for attention (which I honestly believe she wasn't), perhaps it's a good thing. Why do you think alot of times, people just THREATEN suicide, when they really have no intention of doing it. Attention? Yes, that's part of it. But the other part is the fact that they NEED HELP. They're asking somebody to help them get better. They're asking for support.

I have to imagine that...after a while, of course you would get angry if you loved somebody who consistently put themselves in harm's way. However, there's getting angry and then there's just being mean...huge difference.

I'm actually glad this topic was discussed at length...I wish it hadn't spiraled as out of control as it seems to have...but I think it'd good to talk about these types of issues. If more people took the time to understand the CAUSES of mental illness...perhaps they wouldn't be so quick to judge it.

[Spallalala]

You say im assuming shit Haunted, yet look what you just did. You ASSUMED that I was talking about your mental state, when it seems that it was everyone else doing it. NOT ME
And dont tell me to keep out of a conversation. You have no right to tell me to step out.

As for the whole bitching to cheeba. Im not going to answer that. Dont want anymore fights started in here.

All I have said is the truth. Things I have seen on here since cheeba first made an appearance.


Im not sticking around. Please go ahead with the assumptions about me.

Bye all.

Might come back when things arn't so Psychotic around here.

[stubbornforgey]

omfg..!!

what..are you going for a record..seeing how many more you can get rid of within a space of time.??
You have the support...you have the sympathy..you have the 'what ever the hell else your looking for'...try getting off the computer and grabbing a life.
Mental illness is not a thing to be used as a tool to manipulate then use as an excuse for the behaviour.
As i mentioned before ..many of us have had the shit kicked out of us sometime during our lives (not exact wording ..but close) n your going to get the odd negative response but their opinions are not based on malice..if you take off the rose tinted glasses and read between the lines and stop looking at the nick thats advising you and read what they have to say..I personally found Cheba' and Lala's replies quite supportive and somewhat helpful in thier own way.

[zwoti]

Originally posted by Spallalala
As for the banning that was just out of boredom right?


yeah right....it was boredom (http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=329846#post329846)

[bloodrayne]

I wanted to respond to this earlier, but I wasn't sure how... I had to think about it first...Given the limited time that I have here now, I wanted to be sure that I had enough time to make the response that I wanted to...

First of all, Sam already made many of my points...It almost doesn't scare me so much anymore that he keeps doing that:p...I am often amazed by his intelligence and insight, especially for his age (I hate to keep bringing up the 'age' thing, Sam...But, a fact is a fact...You are an exceptional person...Most people don't attain the type of knowledge and independant thought that you exhibit, until much later in life...I certainly hope that you accomplish something with that amazing brain of yours, that someday leaves a permanent mark on this miserable world)...

Like Sam, I do NOT believe that Heather was 'trying to commit suicide'...First of all, if a person TRULY wants to die, they don't really have to 'try' very hard to accomplish that...Human life is actually quite fragile...People die by ACCIDENT every day...If you put even a LITTLE bit of intention behind it, death is quite easily achieved...

In my own personal assessment of these types of situations...I have come to believe that:

Attempted Suicide: People say it's for attention...People say it's a cry for help......I tend to agree, based on what I mentioned above...Maybe it's because they feel neglected, and they just want to see who really cares...Of course this is DEFINITELY the WRONG way to go about it...

Suicide: People say it's a selfish, cowardly act, and that the person who commits suicide doesn't think about anyone else........I believe that there are two types of thought behind the reasons for actually committing suicide:

1) I believe that many people DO think of others when they commit (or even attempt) suicide...As a matter of fact, I believe it's the main reason for the act...

Often they think to themselves "They'll be sorry"...They want to hurt the people (in the worst way they can imagine) who have hurt them so deeply...They use this as a form of punishment (unfortunately...It definitely has its drawbacks)....Often, the ONLY thing they are thinking of at the time that they do this, IS the person/people they are trying to retaliate against...They imagine what the reaction of the person will be when they either find the body (which, of course, is what the suicide committer hopes for the most), or when they find out that they are dead...They imagine many different scenarios, and they regret the fact that they won't be there to see it for themselves...The reason for the 'suicide note' is to make certain that the person who was supposed to be punished, knows that it was for them....Even if it just says their name and something simple like "I love you"...It still hits hard , as it's supposed to.....Often suicide (or attempted suicide) is a very vindictive thing to do, but they feel that they have no other recourse left, because they haven't been able to 'reach' the person any other way.

They DO, however fail to think of the people they will hurt UNintentionally...They lose sight of this, because all of their focus is on revenge/self-pity...and the person for whom it is intended

2) In my opinion, a REAL suicide is committed by a person who has simply become completely overwhelmed by life itself, and can see no other way out...They really do just want it all to end...They believe that they have failed at making things work the way they should, and that life will NEVER get any better...They are defeated, tired of trying and not accomplishing anything, and they feel that it's just pointless to continue on....They honestly don't believe that they will really hurt anyone, or even be missed by anyone, because they TRULY feel that their life has no purpose or meaning to ANYONE, as it doesn't to themselves.....These people will usually not leave a suicide note, unless it's just an explanation...Usually something like "I'm just too tired" or "I just can't do it anymore"......They do not 'threaten' to commit suicide...They do not 'discuss it' with anyone....They just DO it...Usually quite quickly, and always effectively...

Cutting: I have no personal experience with this, but I have known people who do......I do not believe that what Heather did was an actual act of 'cutting'...Although, I could certainly be wrong....This is the extent of my knowledge on this subject:

There are usually different reasons for cutting...The act may be the same, but the reason and intended outcome can vary...For example:

'Cutting' To Stop 'Feeling':

Some people 'cut' because they feel that they are so completely filled with emotions that they can't handle, and that these emotions are suffocating them, killing them...They have to find a way to 'release' these emotions, in order to keep their sanity, or even to survive.....The physical act of cutting open the body, gives them a sense of 'letting things out'...It's a very physical way, to deal with an emotional problem.....This act is actually beneficial to them in a few ways...It makes them feel that they are in control, because they are doing something to make themselves feel better...It allows them to visualize the emotions (most often, deep pain) actually leaving their bodies through the open wounds, which allows them to experience a form of relief....It's psychosomatic, but it works for them

'Cutting' To 'Feel'

Some people 'cut' because they have been so bombarded with emotional pain, they simply want to feel something, ANYTHING else....They hope that the physical pain will be greater than the emotional pain, and will distract them from their torment for a time........

OR they have become emotionless, due to the fact that they have been put through so much emotional trauma in their lives, they have simply detached themselves from all emotions, in order to protect themselves.....So, they 'cut' in order to be able to feel SOMETHING, and not just feel that they are completely 'numb'


I honestly have NEVER heard of anyone committing an act of 'cutting' (for whatever the person's reason, or desired effect may be) simply for ATTENTION...In fact, the intent behind it is often quite the opposite...Almost always committed by people who feel that no one else is capable of helping them (nor would they want to try to rely on anyone else FOR help), that it's something they have to deal with themselves, and therefore 'attention', even if received, would be quite pointless....It's an extremely personal thing, that they usually DO NOT want others to even know about....It becomes a form of 'personal emotional/psychological maintenance'



As I have given this much thought...I honestly believe that what Heather did was neither a form of 'attempted suicide' or an 'act of cutting'

What she did, felt more to me like an act of 'self destruction/self hatred'...Which is brought on by a completely different thought process (usually caused by frustration, hopelessness, helplessness, self-disgust, despair, anger, etcetera) and intent........It was not intended to punish anyone but herself, it was not intended to affect anyone but herself...It was a deeply personal thing, but NOT for 'relief' as in cutting...I feel that it was truly an attempt to try to 'destroy' herself, although not actually 'kill herself'.......

I see it in the way that a person might slash a painting or ruin a work of art by covering it in paint......Destroying it, but not causing it to cease to exist...

I believe that mentioning it here was NOT for sympathy or attention...But, seemed more like a "Damn, I got wasted last night, and now I have one HELL of a raging hangover...Man, I shouldn't have done that" kinda thing........Many people here have made posts like that, are they trying to get sympathy, or attention?...Nah, pretty much just telling how they feel, passing along information...

I REALLY wish that I could explain it better than that...I know what I'm trying to say, I just can't quite get it out the way I want to...*sigh*

[bloodrayne]

As for the comments that Cheeba made:

Anger is much easier to express than sorrow or fear.....

We do not control our emotions, they control US...

Sorrow and fear are considered 'weak' emotions...Anger and Rage are very strong emotions.........To allow ourselves to be controlled by 'weak emotions' causes us to feel VERY weak and helpless....We can allow ourselves to be controlled by stronger emotions, far more easily

Often we will express anger in a situation where we feel sorrow or fear, often exchanging the weaker emotions for the stronger one....We can simply accept it more easily, and we do it automatically, without even realizing that we're doing it

For example: When my mother told me that my uncle died, I should have cried, I should have been sad, or even a little afraid because he was only 38 (early deaths remind us that we can check out at ANY time)...BUT...I was pissed off...I was EXTREMELY pissed off...Demanding to know how it happened, and who was responsible, as well as many other things......Many might consider this an odd reaction, or simply a reaction that was not what they would have expected...But, it's just the way I'm made...It's how I deal with things...

I have a feeling that Cheeba is a lot like this...Some people can't allow themselves to feel 'weak' or admit that they hurt...Because weakness disgusts them...It may also cause them to lash out at someone else that they feel is weak, when they should be strong...

I have a recent personal example of THIS, too:

I went to that 'Astrology' thing with my mother...The girl who was doing the presentation claimed that she was psychic, and could see and communicate with ghosts...When a little boy asked if she could see his dad, who recently died, she said "Well, there is a man behind you, he says that he is very proud of you, and that you have taken on your new responsibilities well"...When the boy's mother asked her what the 'ghost' looked like, she was very hesitant and you could tell that she was grasping for anything, starting off with 'white male...':rolleyes:...It was disgusting...The girl was nervous as hell during the ENTIRE presentation, she felt to me like a very 'weak' person...Seri said that she thought the girl seemed 'afraid' of me somehow...Dustin said that he could actually FEEL that the girl did not like me and was avoiding making eye contact with me, even when I was asking her questions, he said that the tension was almost visible......There were many times when she simply should have said "I don't really know', instead of trying to make shit up...It pissed me off that she was so fake, and could not admit it when she was unsure........Anyway, her weakness made me angry, it made me feel vicious...It reminded me of 'blood in the water' to a shark, or the 'smell of fear' to a predator.....I felt like destroying her, ripping her apart...Publicly humiliating her...Exposing her as a fraud....And I think she knew it...


Anyway...You can try to decipher where I was going with all of that in relation to how Cheeba responded to this situation....Fortunately for all of you, I am out of time again :p...lol


@ Heather...I'm truly sorry for what you're going through...I disagree with the way you chose to handle it (in that, it isn't something that I would do myself, or that I would want to see anyone else do), BUT I also am incapable of understanding what you have to do to deal with things, as I have never walked in your shoes, so I am not permitted to judge you for it.....I believe that there are better ways to cope, but it's obvious that you felt this was the route you had to take, perhaps you feel that 'other options' are unavailable to you, or most likely you were not thinking rationally enough to consider anything else, which would make the most sense, considering you obviously weren't in the best 'emotional state' or experiencing the most 'mental clarity' at the time, or it probably wouldn't have happened in the first place...

I love you, regardless

[The STE]

okay, I wasn't going to post in here again, but this is bugging the shit out of me...


just how many fucking people here are named Heather?!

[Haunted]

Rayne, your analysis of why I cut myself made me stop. I think you just cracked open part of my psyche. That's SOME thinkin' I appreciate the fact that you took the time to think it over like you did.

I really wanted to tell you about what I did personally, but obviously that's outta the picture. Your love and compassion warms me up tremendously. You know me so well, it's almost frightening, but then, you "know" everyone you meet. (You sure there's no witch in you?...what sights I could show you) I love you for all the woman that you are. A damn fine woman at that.

Everyone who encouraged me through the dark and those of you who simply kind then distant because of the bullshit that was stirred, I thank you.

I'm delving more deeply into the Craft and my faith within. I'm deepening my personal relationship with The Morrighan, my Goddess (don't I sound the Baptist). This has all be exceedingly helpful.

As Cartman once said, "I love you guys."

[Marroe]

Originally posted by The STE
okay, I wasn't going to post in here again, but this is bugging the shit out of me...


just how many fucking people here are named Heather?! 2?

[The STE]

Originally posted by Marroe
2?

at least

[Carpe Noctem]

I <3 Bloodrayne.

[pinkfloyd45769]

Rayne, you blow me away! I really enjoy reading your post, such words of wisdom. BTW.. have you had your new bundle of joy???;)

[The STE]

weird thing: Rayne calls Haunted by her real name, but still calls me Sam

just sayin

[Haunted]

I know your real name, but still think of you as Sam. It is strange...maybe it's just your alter ego.

[Spallalala]

Bloodrayne.

Your not a psychologist are you? Im pretty sure your not. If you think that what you have said about cheeba is true then you dont know him at all. So save the cereal box psychology for those in here that wish to hear it.
I didn't bother reading it all, just the parts about cheebs, coming from someone that actually knows him, you are incorrect.

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by Spallalala
Bloodrayne.

Your not a psychologist are you? Im pretty sure your not. If you think that what you have said about cheeba is true then you dont know him at all. So save the cereal box psychology for those in here that wish to hear it.
I didn't bother reading it all, just the parts about cheebs, coming from someone that actually knows him, you are incorrect.

Sounds to me like you read it all. Why else would you respond as such???

Maybe youre the one who doesnt know CHeeba the way you think you do. Maybe he has a side to him that your not seeing, everyone does. Perhaps your too blind to see it.

Seems you are quite on the defensive dont you think. I believe that Rayne made a simple opinion. Lets see if I can come up with something that you will like.

Cheeba is the greatest guy on the earth. He is so compassionate and understanding of others. He is quite tolerant and open to others ideas and expressions. He is not the kind of person that would hurt a fly. Nor would he ever hurt the woman that he loves by doing things behind her back. As a matter of fact just yesterday I saw him in the yard planting flowers and a small bird fell from a tree. He scooped the bird up and nursed it back to health and returned it to the wild.

Could be CHeebs could be TED FUCKIN BUNDY.

I only know him from what I have seen and heard. I make my own judgements. Like I said perhaps I will visit him in a dream and we can discuss it further and maybe I can see things from your point of view. Then maybe I can visit you, and I can show you things you arent seeing.

Do yourself a favor and let it go.

[slasherman]

Originally posted by Spallalala
I didn't bother reading it all, just the parts about cheebs, coming from someone that actually knows him, you are incorrect.
..know him or is him ?

[pinkfloyd45769]

Originally posted by slasherman
..know him or is him ? Hmmmmmmm.........good question! I think shes just a little biased!

[pinkfloyd45769]

LOL!!!!! I think shes just a little rude,but im not here to judge!!:rolleyes:

[Haunted]

Spallalala, I have kept this hidden for a long time. However, sense you've decided to keep the argument alive, and have now attacked Rayne, I'm going to open a can of worms.

I have a chat between me and Cheeba saved that will make your hair turn white. It goes beyond what you can imagine a chat could be.

I swore I'd never let it out. I swore that I would not stoop so low as to use it as blackmail. However, you need to back the fuck off, especially of Rayne. She's one of the most genuine people I've ever met.

Wanna take a gander at what I've got? You might find it really interesting. Wanna see what Brendon is really like behind your back?

I didn't think so.

I'm a decent sort of woman, but I can only be pushed so far. And you are about to knock me over the edge. You don't wanna do that.

Back off. Rayne just made an observation and a correct one at that.

I would say, "normally, I don't start shit," but the fact is, I didn't start anything. I didn't make this thread to stir up trouble. However, you two (I know you're reading this, B) came in with your high and mighty bullshit and started ripping into me and anyone who disagreed with you. To prove this, all you have to do is read the thread to it's entirity.

I hate the bitch, but I'm going to have to quote Fiona Apple: "Go back to the rock from under which you came take the sorrow you gave and all the stakes you claimed...and don't forget the blame."

As Zwoti would say, "Pack it in."

[pinkfloyd45769]

I <3 you Haunted!!!:p Youre just the shit!!!!;) I only have a few things to say......nah, I dont feel like getting banned!!!

[Angra]

For christ sake.... Can´t we just all get along in here?

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthr...;threadid=17292

[Angra]

I can see that. :rolleyes:

[meetthecreeper]

Spallalala,

you were warned pages ago. Perhaps your mind isnt getting the messages that have been sent.

Haunted,

no one would fault you for doing what you have to do. Turn the lights on and see what runs and hides under the bed. Better yet a public broadcast of the situation. That way the masses can all digest.

Yes I am being a BASTARD. Normally I say not to do laundry in public but since some want to make a public spectacle of the situation "Let them eat war."

[Angra]

I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

The colours of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shakin' hands, sayin' "How do you do?"
They're really saying "I love you"

I hear babies cryin', I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll ever know
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Yes, I think to myself, what a wonderful world



*Pulling out my machine gun* ;)

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by Angra
I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world

The colours of the rainbow, so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shakin' hands, sayin' "How do you do?"
They're really saying "I love you"

I hear babies cryin', I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll ever know
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Yes, I think to myself, what a wonderful world



*Pulling out my machine gun* ;)

I told a coworker that this song will be playing in my head as I empty magazine after magazine thru my AR15 at work.

Everything will be going in slomotion. From the bullets blasting off the service managers desk throwing paper in the air, to the service writers diving behind their desks, to the brass casings bouncing off the floor.

I have been thinking of making a short film from this very idea.

*Disclaimer*

Meetthecreeper in no way shape or form intends to polish off his coworkers now or any time in the immediate future. Just in case anyone was wondering ITS A JOKE.

[Angra]

Originally posted by meetthecreeper
I told a coworker that this song will be playing in my head as I empty magazine after magazine thru my AR15 at work.

Everything will be going in slomotion. From the bullets blasting off the service managers desk throwing paper in the air, to the service writers diving behind their desks, to the brass casings bouncing off the floor.



I know, dude.;) LOL



I seriously think that would be a classic scene that lots and lots of movies would copy.

For real, it´s a great idea.:)

[cheebacheeba]

Better yet a public broadcast of the situation. That way the masses can all digest
Why don't you allow me.
Digest this: I'll say this but once - I will not allow people to use information against me, so I'm here only to take that ability away from a person that I hadn't thought to actually be low enough to bring private conversations (regardless of situation and/or nature) to public attention.
Since evidently Haunted wants to hit beneath the belt anyway, why not...although, before I launch into the information people are attempting to hold against me, since I'm here for the moment, allow me to respond to some comments made in my absence. I say these things not to cause any further arguments, and if by the responses of others, this becomes the case - they will be engaging in battle by themselves.

First if all...Creeper...Numerous times you seem to have taken delight in the fact that ~OOOH~ you might know a little summin' summin' about old cheeba here. I hope this post will indicate to you clearly enough just how much I DON'T give a shit.
Like I said beforehand, any information you have is speculative at most, and biased. So you go right ahead and view your own friends through rose coloured glasses, and be a good little soldier, I don't CARE.
I never had a problem with you, but obviously you're someone that felt their friend REALLY needed to be backed up, and had to say your peice. That's ok, I voiced my opinion, you voiced...well, I'm not sure WHAT you voiced, for the better part.
As for me being the pot calling the kettle black...Unworthy of comment. I'm not here to peddle stories about others, or at least, I wasn't...However, I will say this - If actually you've convinced yourself that showing your cock to a public forum which children could easily browse while describing their sexual arousal to girls less than half your age, and private conversations that took place between two (or, so I thought) adults are AT ALL comparable, that is a shortcoming you'll have to live with. As I have admitted in my post made through Marroe, what I said about him was a deliberate, and unneccessary attack on Trippin', only in response to his comments about cowardice regarding my attitudes...I'm a little confused as to what that had to do with you, but that's alright, clearly you don't like me very much on account of being a "good friend" to another. Don't worry, SOMEHOW I'll live with that.
Perhaps I will visit you in a dream some night and we can discuss further.
Wow...me AND my girlfriend? Are you looking for a....dreamsome?
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
You go right ahead and buy bulk stocks of that kind of rubbish all you want, just don't expect me to...So if that was some kind of threat, allow me to point out how seriously I take it - Go right ahead and work that voodoo you do so well, bone-daddy, if you think you can make your point more effective if you come across as "crazy guy" to me, that's just fine.
I am, however, beggining to understand why you constantly rave about the amount of guns you pack - it's PROBABLY the only way anyone that's known you for more than five minutes would actually take ANYTHING you have to say at all seriously. I was going to post more here, but I see no need to go into any great length, or start another argument - the main point I want to get across is that you'll get no response from these kind of "threats", save for laughter - For now, kick back, the show that your voyeuristic self has obviously been aching to witness is coming right up.

Sam, I have to say...you made a good point.
However, if it was just "cutting", I share similar disregard for this kind of behaviour. That's all I've really got to say on the matter.

Angela, thankyou for not leaping up to judge my opinions, and methods of delivery.

BR - I bear you no ill will.
I understand why you may have come to the conclusions you did, however, in the points potentially (eg - I have a feeling) pertaining to me, you were incorrect. This is coming from me, not my girlfriend. Of course I've followed this thread with some interest...My girl had a point, regardless of how it came across to you. I hope you're doing well all the same.

MD/hell/trippin - Nothing new to say.
You disagree with my methods on account of potentially hurting peoples feelings, I disagree with yours on account of potentially endorsing further attempts. Both are valid, and just a matter of perspective. Enough said.

So here we are, is everyone on the edge of their seats?
The incidents I am about to describe took place sometime between 1 and 2 years ago as I recall. Before then, Haunted and I spoke frequently on msn. About a lot of things really...there WAS a point I actually considered her a friend, a good friend, as anyone who has been here for a while will recall. I have respect enough not to go into specific detail, but all the same, certain topics that may be considered innapropriate for a guy involved in a relationship, and a girl who is fully aware of this, came under discussion. Admittedly, our conversations had piqued my interest enough to proceed further.
Just so people don't assume I'm skirting around the topic, the conversation lead to both parties talking about sexual history, preferences, and furthermore, into discussing and exchanging ideas in terms of scanario, methods...etc. Things were said that shouldn't have been. This happened a few times, maybe 3-4? At this point, it was actually difficult to steer the conversation towards anything BUT in the following discussions. Whatever, that's the changing nature of conversation through knowledge and familiarity I suppose.
So there you have it...I apologise to anyone perhaps expecting something a little jucier, I don't intend to make things any more graphic, that's not my style, I have more respect for both myself and haunted to make it so, not to mention - I have no intention of drawing any attention that hasn't been already with additional information. I'm not putting any "blame" for what happened on either of the two of us...things happen, whatever. Yet, it ended.
Partially because I acknowledged that it was pointless and unrealistic to pursue anything like this (geographically, and availability-wise), not to mention, I actually felt like I was doing the wrong thing...yup, had an attack of conscience...probably because I DO have a girlfriend, and a great one at that. Sure, you lot probably don't like her on account of me being the "bad guy" in these parts nowadays, but whatever...YOU don't have to. Her standing up for me is admirable, and part of what makes her the woman she is, the one I chose.
Personally, I would have liked to have continued the friendship that Heather and I once had, and I even told her so. Her solution to this situation and my decision to discontinue this kind of thing was to (for reasons of her own) back right off, and not talk to me any more whatsoever. This actually pissed me off, bigtime...I sent a few abusive emails, as I DID in fact miss our friendship. But that's in the past, as I said, the reasons were her own, therefore I am not required to understand or judge them.
Since this took place, we've made a few attempts to reconcile,
and (as you might have guessed) this hasn't come to fruition. No doubt a few of you have noticed that I've been on her ass a little in various threads, and she's given the same back in kind, as expected. I admit, going from frienship to...pondering...to not talking at all, to friendship to not talking at all again, to frienship was not something I could handle. Apparently being honest about that, and letting my former friend know this was the case makes me a real asshole. It's unfortunate, but everyone has a right to react, and feel however they want to when faced with the end of a friendship.
Here's a little trivia - haunted wasn't the only girl up in here I've breached these kinda topics with, but I'm not about to call anybody out...there's no need. I consider these people friends to this day, and know that none of it was ever serious on either end...although, they might understand why I don't talk to them quite as much these days, after reading of this incident. Simply put, it's not something I want to happen again, because friendships, for one reason or another, can be harmed, or killed when this kind of thing happens.
I want to make one thing clear, to smite any assumptions before they occur. My comments and views on the "suicide/hurting ones self" topic are in no way reprasentative of my individual "past" with haunted. I have told her, and I am telling you, if my BEST FRIEND told me about having done the same thing, the first thing they'd be greeted with would be a punch in the face, possibly multiple punches, and yes, I would turn my back on them until they solved their OWN problems.
So, Haunted...like I told you via email...this WAS over for me at the point I was banned. I have told you everything that I've wanted you to know, take from it only what you will...I don't think this thing is any longer worth it, and if I said anything that did in fact hurt your feelings up in here, that is regrettable.
Hope you folks enjoyed the show.

Have a nice day - B

[cheebacheeba]

Oh, and zwoti...I don't hold my banning against you.
IMO, you're the best mod here, and you performed your duty as required. Don't worry...I'M not here to crawl...just letting you know we're cool. ;)

[pinkfloyd45769]

The only thing that I have to say is, I think it really sucks to see a good friendship go down the drain. I hope you guys can work out your problems:)

[Spallalala]

I was attacking BR. I was stating the truth was I not?

As for you Haunted, thanks for the laugh. Your not a threat to me in anyway possible. Brendon had told me about your conversations a while back so its nothing new. So you dont have to stoop to your low level of blackmailing.

You live in the USA. You have nothing on me or cheebs, so whatever you say makes shit all difference in regards to the way I feel about him. I can just continue to laugh at your stupid shit .

I dont know why you all seem to think you know him better then I do. Cause thats a fucking joke in itself. You guys have known him for about 2yrs. I myself about 7yrs. So do the math. Would you like a calculator?

Some of you are telling us to shut up and just end this all, when you all should be taking your own advice and let it go.

I didn't come on to bitch, I wasn't gonna sit back and let you fools try and tell me what to think .

In my mind. Cheeba has done nothing wrong in regards to your conversations. I dont care, I just find it amusing that you would stoop to a stupid low level as to go personal with shit. Sad really when you think about it.

Craving more attention I see Haunted. You must feel great about yourself right now.

[giallobelly]

I don't know anything about the controversy that ensued from this thread and it seems as though the nastier responses were removed.

I just want to wish Haunted the best.

[Spallalala]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
[I wasn't making personal comments to anyone then. It was Haunted that decided to stoop to a ignorant level, not me.

All I see is that Haunted was deliberatly trying to cause shit between myself and cheeba in regards to our relationship. Which none of you have the right to comment on.

Sorry, my last post was supposed to say that I wasn't attacking her as I dont believe I was.


Can we end this at some point. Could a mod perhaps lock down this thread as its gone way over the top with bullshit.

[giallobelly]

http://www.odensebib.dk/upload/torben_ulrich.gif

"If I were the advisor, I would say...delete this."

[cheebacheeba]

Yeah, I can't say I saw any really PERSONAL attacks there...I'm sure she was using the term "fools" affectionately;)

I have to agree that this thread does seem to have got out of hand, I mean...shit, I'd not be back if not...
Nobody wants to "back down", and everybody wants the last word...this shit is just going to go 'round in circles.
I say this indescrimenantly for all involved...let it end here...

I don't think haunted and I are EVER going to reconcile, if we were, we would've by now. I'm sure both of us feel the same way on that. I for one have said all I intend to on this and all other matters bought up in this thread.
It's unfortunate when a friendship ends through growing apart or fighting, but I've accepted it.
I don't agree with you bringing up our personal shit...especially when you were just doing so to be vindictive and spiteful to someone ELSE...but I'm not mad at you. Whatever, people get angry...I'm not innocent there myself, this thread is proof thereof.
But, honestly...I said what I was gonna about the topic that originally started this thread, I'm not about to take anything back, 'nor am I about to revisit, or continue this.

So to haunted, Anna, BR, trippin, that lil' someone (EDIT: Verification - Creeper) I'm sure will make yet another appearance to say something really scary to me, and ANYONE in any way involved in this thread, just cool out already.

[cheebacheeba]

Haha, I wasn't talking about you, man...I should've put an "and" in there somewhere...anyways, just silly shit...yeah, the outcome is a bitch, but what can ya do? Shit was said on both sides that's gonna be pretty hard to take back, at this point it's just a matter of: *shuts up*

[Angelakillsluts]

Wow... this thread got even lower. I'm not going to bother defending Bloodrayne (she definately doesn't need it) or taking a side between Haunted and Cheeba, but I will say I am glad that Cheeba decided to come back. I pretty much like everyone involved, but I think you guys just need to relax, take a deep breath, and move on before you say anything else that won't easily be forgotten.

[slasherman]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/slasherman1971/neverendingstory.gif

[filmmaker2]

Wow...it's just a Kajagoogoo kind of evening here in the old thread.

[zwoti]

Originally posted by cheebacheeba
I have to agree that this thread does seem to have got out of hand, I mean...shit, I'd not be back if not...
Nobody wants to "back down", and everybody wants the last word...this shit is just going to go 'round in circles.
I say this indescrimenantly for all involved...let it end here...
Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Shouldnt the personal attacking end at some point?
Originally posted by Spallalala
Can we end this at some point. Could a mod perhaps lock down this thread as its gone way over the top with bullshit.
Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
but I think you guys just need to relax, take a deep breath, and move on before you say anything else that won't easily be forgotten.

this is my 2nd post in this thread and last as this is now over. should you feel the need to continue this, then you will have me to deal with.....so might i suggest some reading before you do so

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17292

anyone with a problem/question, use a pm.










oh and i bumped into this ninja in my kitchen (he was stealing my pizza yet again) and he gave me some wise words which i am passing onto you

Originally said by the Ninja Mod
PACK IT IN