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bloodrayne
10-05-2005, 08:22 AM
Girls' Suicide Pact Shocks France

Paris - France has reacted with horror as details emerged this week of the twin suicide of two teenage girls who bound their hands together and jumped from the 17th-story window of a block of flats in Paris.

The 14 year-old girls, who have been named only as Marion and Virginie, were both heavily influenced by the gothic fashion in music and clothes.

Friends said they were obsessed by talk of death, and the weblog kept by one of the girls contained long and morbid extracts from the lyrics of a leading French black metal band.

On Sunday, the pair's school friends gathered for a brief memorial service at the foot of the tower block in Ivry-sur-Seine, a southern suburb of the capital.

One of them - named in French newspapers as Benjamin - described how Marion and Virginie joined him and a friend in his top-floor apartment on Friday afternoon.

"They said to us: 'Wait there, we are going into the bedroom. We are going to give you a surprise.'

"Then they said: 'Come in!' And then we saw them on the window ledge. We couldn't do anything. They just jumped," he said.

A suicide note was found in one of their pockets. It read: "Life isn't worth it."

'Not Happy'

The story has provoked widespread shock because the girls were from very average middle-class homes, in a very average suburban neighbourhood.

Though they had attracted attention for their black clothes and brooding personalities, no-one imagined for a minute that their alienation from the world was so extreme.

According to newspaper reports, the two girls ran away from home early last week.

They were found by local police who questioned them and found nothing unusual about their manner.

Friends said Marion had often pronounced an intention to kill herself, but no-one had taken her seriously.

"It was clear she wasn't happy," a girl called Melisa told France Soir newspaper.

"Like me she dressed in gothic outfits. But she got teased mercilessly for it. She was permanently humiliated. Everyone made fun of her clothes."

Perhaps the biggest clue to Marion's confusion can be found on her weblog, part of which has been transferred to a tribute website set up by her friends.

In it, she delivers an angry and self-hating stream of consciousness based around sex, beauty and death, interspersed with lyrics from the French black metal group, Anorexia Nervosa.

Violent Lyrics

The group from the central town of Limoges - one of whose albums is called Suicide is Sexy - has a loyal following among a section of French youth. Its lyrics are hard-hitting.

"I hate you. I vomit on your soul and your family. Death to your parents. Torture and rape to your children. I hate you to death," are the words of one song on Marion's weblog.

"You are the whore of human weakness. Tepid and obscene. Blinded by the sweaty desire of vanity. Worthless."

Another reads: "I can't take any more. I have had enough. I have burned my eyes and I am afraid."

In Britain and the US, campaigners for family values have long complained about the content of black metal and death metal songs, alleging that their violent and death-obsessed lyrics can tip the sensitive into self-destruction.

Jeff Veillet, of leading French rock magazine Rock One, defended Anorexia Nervosa from charges that it is playing a dangerous game with the insecurities of teenage girls.

"Yes, there is a provocative side to groups like Anorexia. But just because they talk about death in their songs, it doesn't mean they want people to commit suicide. It is an act - a way of getting through to adolescents," he said.

"All sorts of music have driven people to extremes of behaviour. Not just black metal."

bloodrayne
10-05-2005, 08:25 AM
Damn...Looks like they're trying to blame just about everything for THIS one...:rolleyes:



While I'm sitting here asking..."Where the hell were their parents?"...

Wild Zero
10-05-2005, 01:27 PM
Of course there trying to blame just about everything... i mean what do you expect them to do, actually go into whatever it was that was happening in these two girls lives.

No, No, No we just couldn't have that, now could we.

wufong
11-13-2005, 03:11 AM
Actualy i think the music has a large part to do with their suicide. well in this case anyway. and people should really stop trying to blame the parents everytime these things happen. sure in hindsight they should have step in and tried to get them some help. But maybe they thought it was a stage they were going through who knows. All i know is if i was one of those girls father i'll track the band down and kill them.

ItsAlive75
11-13-2005, 02:07 PM
I actually did a thread about this in the General Horror section, "Suicide Pacts and those Trendy, Trendy Teenagers"...

The STE
11-13-2005, 03:55 PM
I blame Suicide Circle

Rawhead Rex
11-16-2005, 01:28 PM
Suicide Club, more like it...

Japanese minds being mimic'd.

But pretty cool...

Glad to see kids getting involved in social situations.

It's nice when people do things together.

noctuary
11-16-2005, 07:37 PM
Black metal is funny.

Of course, as society leaps to find an easy scapegoat, BM will take a fall. No longer will the corpse-painted legions be free to burn churches and stab homosexuals. Tragic.

The STE
11-16-2005, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by Rawhead Rex
Suicide Club, more like it...

It's Suicide Circle

wvhorrorfan
11-27-2005, 02:39 AM
anything like that is bad, period

X¤MurderDoll¤X
12-08-2005, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by bloodrayne


"They said to us: 'Wait there, we are going into the bedroom. We are going to give you a surprise.'

"Then they said: 'Come in!' And then we saw them on the window ledge. We couldn't do anything. They just jumped," he said.

A suicide note was found in one of their pockets. It read: "Life isn't worth it."


I'm sorry, but that is awesome. It's like a movie ending. :)

scottingraham
12-13-2005, 05:44 PM
suicide is never the right decision there is always a better solution! its sad when something like this happens and it could have been prevented!

IDrinkYourBlood
12-13-2005, 06:58 PM
sounds like these girls were just lame "posers" and thought this would make them "hardcore".

The STE
12-13-2005, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by scottingraham
suicide is never the right decision there is always a better solution!

you mean, like, the Final Solution?