Is Zombies over used? [Archive] - Horror.com Forums

AmericanManiac

09-16-2005, 05:15 PM

Alright to get started I'm a big fan of Romero, but since Land of the Dead I have been seeing tons of previews for zombie flicks. I just picked up the new Fangoria today and about 70% of it is all previews on zombie movies. I pretty sick of cheap knock-offs of the great Romero. Is anyone else sick of zombie movies?

filmmaker2

09-16-2005, 05:18 PM

In a way yes, and in a way no. Very few zombie flicks measure up to the good Romero zombie flicks. That's generally accepted as true. But a crappy zombie flick plus six beers is still a decent evening.

Marroe

09-16-2005, 05:18 PM

nono, I <3 zombies always.

Marroe + zombies =forever

AUSTIN316426808

09-16-2005, 05:20 PM

Imo there's no such thing as over using, if the film is good I don't care if I've seen the premise a hundred times over.

I'm not sure if you were impling it or not but every zombie movie isn't trying to copy Romero. Another thing...if you compare every zombie film you see to Romero,Sci-fi to Lucas,drama to Scorsese ect. ect. then you're never going to be satisfied.

AmericanManiac

09-16-2005, 05:27 PM

filmmaker2 just the 6 beers is a good night !
No not every zombie movie but I did see one in fangoria I fell on the floor laughing was Zombies in the hood anyone see that lol.

knife_fight

09-16-2005, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by AmericanManiac
Alright to get started I'm a big fan of Romero, but since Land of the Dead I have been seeing tons of previews for zombie flicks. I just picked up the new Fangoria today and about 70% of it is all previews on zombie movies. I pretty sick of cheap knock-offs of the great Romero. Is anyone else sick of zombie movies?

I'm pretty sick of Romero making cheap knock-offs of the great Romero.

AUSTIN316426808

09-16-2005, 05:46 PM

That's not really fair, you can't expect him to make Night of the Living Dead every go around. High expectations will have you pissed off your whole life.

ItsAlive75

09-16-2005, 05:47 PM

Quite frankly (hehe I said "quite frankly"), a lot of horror genre is overused. Very seldom do we see an original and interesting idea come up. Vampires are overdone. What about werewolves? Thery're overdone... Slashers, no doubt. There's a diamond in the rough in every one, but horror itself is a very narrow genre, and because there's so little diversity its very easy for any yahoo to pick up a camera and start shooting some bullshit.

filmmaker2

09-16-2005, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
its very easy for any yahoo to pick up a camera and start shooting some bullshit.

AMEN TO THAT, BROTHER!

"Hey wow I have a camera! Filmmakers have cameras! That must mean I'm a filmmaker!"

Ohhhh, just, ohhhhhhh!!!

wildfire

09-16-2005, 06:08 PM

I'm such a big fan of horror that I never get tired of to many of anything. I try not to expect to much from any movie and with low expectations I end up liking most of them.

zomb5150

09-16-2005, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
That's not really fair, you can't expect him to make Night of the Living Dead every go around. High expectations will have you pissed off your whole life.

I agree with You 100% on this, I went to see Land of the Dead and was really dissappointed.I've seen Night, Dawn and Day and am a huge fan of the three.I went to see Land of the Dead with very high expectations and feel I didn't judge it fairly because I was comparing it to the first three, When it comes out on dvd I'll have to give another chance.I really don't think that they're over doing Zombie movies.I'm actually Looking forward to Tobe Hoopers' zombie movie.

X¤MurderDoll¤X

09-16-2005, 06:38 PM

I could never get enough zombies.

Despare

09-16-2005, 06:43 PM

There are no where NEAR enough original, quality zombie movies.

noctuary

09-16-2005, 07:32 PM

I love zombie movies, really I do. That said, however... it's very true that there's been a glut of them lately, and just speaking for myself here, it's beginning to get a little old. Most of the ones I've seen are, well, sub-par. So I'd say it's time for me to take a little break from the zombie genre, but I hope they keep making them.

RavageRitual

09-17-2005, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by noctuary
I love zombie movies, really I do. That said, however... it's very true that there's been a glut of them lately, and just speaking for myself here, it's beginning to get a little old. Most of the ones I've seen are, well, sub-par. So I'd say it's time for me to take a little break from the zombie genre, but I hope they keep making them.

I agree with you, they should just take a break for awile and think how it all started, and how great it was. They shouldnt change the was Zombies are or should be. Movies that make zombies that can run, use guns, andpretty much do anything a live parson can do. Yet thier dead? That is so stupid and I hate when directors change something that is so great.

ItsAlive75

09-17-2005, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by RavageRitual
That is so stupid and I hate when directors change something that is so great.

Yeah, but if people don't change ideas, how are we ever going to get anything new? The thing about formulas is that they are so predicatable... there's a set list of rules that you have to follow, you're not allowed to stray from it. That's why there's so many movies that are exactly the same and, because of that, pretty dang shitty.

Haunted

09-17-2005, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Quite frankly (hehe I said "quite frankly"), a lot of horror genre is overused. Very seldom do we see an original and interesting idea come up. Vampires are overdone. What about werewolves? Thery're overdone... Slashers, no doubt. There's a diamond in the rough in every one, but horror itself is a very narrow genre, and because there's so little diversity its very easy for any yahoo to pick up a camera and start shooting some bullshit.

First of all, you're funny IA75, one of the funnier members of this forum...(I think we should have Newb's lounge for funny shit. Pardon me for volunteering you as bartender, Newb).

Anyway, I believe that you can never have enough zombies, unless they're trying to get into your house while you're at home.

The reason I quoted you is because you said vampires are overdone. I don't think they're over done, just done improperly. All of the vampires that I've ready about have bloody annoying personalities. You've got to give them some bite. (no pun intended) I've been trying to work through that for years, because I love a good vampire tale. I think I've got the hang of it now.

My book's main character is a vampire, but for her that's just a technicality. She does very well at being a vampire, and I think, and some others have thought, that she's actually really funny. I can't say, because I'm biased.

Once I get into the meat of the story, I'll post a little and see what you cats think.

ItsAlive75

09-17-2005, 07:24 AM

Originally posted by Haunted
My book's main character is a vampire, but for her that's just a technicality. She does very well at being a vampire, and I think, and some others have thought, that she's actually really funny. I can't say, because I'm biased.

Once I get into the meat of the story, I'll post a little and see what you cats think.

You better, I'm probably not the only one's whose been waiting for you to share some of your work with the forum.

wildfire

09-17-2005, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
You better, I'm probably not the only one's whose been waiting for you to share some of your work with the forum.
Haunted,
Ever since you sent me that pm. a couple weeks ago I have been waiting. I really liked the little bit you told me. So ItsAlive is most defenently not the only one. I'll pm. you later Haunted and tell you who I really am.

Hate_Breeder

09-17-2005, 09:47 AM

Are you over retarded?

IDrinkYourBlood

09-17-2005, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by wildfire
I'll pm. you later Haunted and tell you who I really am. Me too Haunted. Ill tell you who I really am too. Be amazed that my actual name is not IDrinkYourBlood but really its Tony. I love you Haunted....we were ment to be together. *licks*

Now that I got that out of the way. I love zombies to death. Cant get enough of them. Unless if they can run ect. ect. (Return of the Living Dead is the only case were I let this go cuz that movie F'n rocks.) So I hope they keep the zombie movies a'commin.

Haunted

09-17-2005, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by IDrinkYourBlood
Me too Haunted. Ill tell you who I really am too. Be amazed that my actual name is not IDrinkYourBlood but really its Tony. I love you Haunted....we were ment to be together. *licks*

If I even thought you were serious I would still be totally offended.

Let me just get something straight with you. I would never respond to something like that. What you just did disturbs me on levels that you have no idea that I have. (However, those people that really know me understand).

Don't ever talk to me like that, again. You don't know who you're dealing with, bucko!

ChEEbA

09-18-2005, 04:26 AM

There are movies that define genres...these are seldom "lived up to", the combination of elements simply arent there for the majority of films of the same genre to follow.
Sure, certain elements are present...and they can make pretty good attempts (of course, they can make pretty SHIThouse attempts too) but much of the time, that certain precise mixture...simply cannot be replicated. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, I mean if somebody DID manage to pull off a near flawless attempt, their film would be called a knock-off.
However, enjoying a genre of film will not come easy if you have comparison hangups, I myself have attempted to train myself out of it, which IS difficult.
I'm not entirely happy with the zombie genre as a whole...there have been MANY crap zombie flicks...in fact, too many. But then again, I could say that about horror in general.
But, there ARE some that are really worth watching, that make the whole "quest" worthwhile, but essentially this applies to all kinds of films. It's just a matter of lowering your expectations...not TOO much, just a little...and you may find that you have the chance to enjoy films when you're not nitpicking about them.

In a more specific answer to the question initially asked - No.
I wouldn't wanna miss out on things like "shaun of the dead" and "versus", both of which I love. Besides, even if a zombie movie is crappy...unless it's TOTALLY bad, I still enjoy seeing zombies get all shot up, run over, chopped, beaten up, and punished punished PUNISHED before they drop...yup, I enjoy that more than anything.

Despare

09-18-2005, 07:01 AM

The cool thing about the horror genre is that there are SOOOO many crappy movies when a good one comes out it doesn't matter what it's about. Good monster flicks are few and far between today people would apparently watch bad mockumentaries and movies about watching evil tapes and a dead girl in a well. Ooooo psycholigical thrillers are big too. Anyway, if anything is overused it's twist ending and underused (other than talent)... werewolves. Where the hell are all the good werewolf films these days?

massacre man

09-18-2005, 07:25 AM

no they isn't

knife_fight

09-18-2005, 08:20 AM

I am most definitely sick of the "thrillers" (if you can even call them that, I don't know who they are thrilling, but it certainly isn't me) that try and pass themselves off as horror movies.

alkytrio666

09-18-2005, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by AmericanManiac
Alright to get started I'm a big fan of Romero, but since Land of the Dead I have been seeing tons of previews for zombie flicks. I just picked up the new Fangoria today and about 70% of it is all previews on zombie movies. I pretty sick of cheap knock-offs of the great Romero. Is anyone else sick of zombie movies?

Well Romero didn't invent zombies, you know. Although his movies are the best ones out there (with the exception of 'Land'), he was far from the first one to use zombies in a movie.

If you don't like the idea of these new movies, don't watch them!

ItsAlive75

09-18-2005, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by alkytrio666

If you don't like the idea of these new movies, don't watch them!

Good advice.

PR3SSUR3

10-06-2005, 07:14 AM

Shit zombie films have been a problem for decades now, since camcorders became cheap enough to be wielded by any Romero fanboy capable of knocking out mind-numbing post-apocalyptic trash usually about the world taken over by the "undead" and a well armed group of survivors as they struggle to survive against the odds...

Cue lots of abysmal acting, stupid OTT blood effects and plenty of poncing about with capguns.

Bollocks - though the more recent Stink of Flesh is worth seeing.

Sergio

10-06-2005, 08:15 AM

I still like zombie movies. Like resident evil was pretty good however the recent dawn of the dead movie was missing something. like a survivor. call me old fashioned or just stupid, but I like the older flicks where someone lived to tell the tale. Yeah they end up doomed in the sequel but they just pass the baton to some other survivor in that case.

Everybody loves BRAINS

and yes i'm an asshole for just popping in after being away forever.:D

handsome rob

10-06-2005, 09:32 AM

Fulci. Fucking. Lives.

Mindtraveller

10-06-2005, 09:55 AM

No such things as too many zombie films.

But yes, such thing as too many crappy zombie films.

The Mothman

10-06-2005, 01:20 PM

theres one thing that really doesnt make any sense about the zombie genre. zombies eat poeple right? and when people get eaten, they turn into zombies.....well how come all the zombies in movies have a couple wounds on them and stuff, but they are never really half eaten like they should be if you think about it.

Haunted

10-06-2005, 01:56 PM

In answer to the question: No.

filmmaker2

10-06-2005, 03:06 PM

Again, zombies are like strawberries in a strawberry smoothie. It's NEVER wrong to put MORE strawberries into the smoothie. It's only wrong to put less of them.

ItsAlive75

10-06-2005, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Again, zombies are like strawberries in a strawberry smoothie. It's NEVER wrong to put MORE strawberries into the smoothie. It's only wrong to put less of them.

Yeah, but remember... the smoothie can't taste like shit at the end.

Haunted

10-06-2005, 03:27 PM

Where are you taking us with that statement?

ItsAlive75

10-06-2005, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Haunted
Where are you taking us with that statement

Well it doesn't matter how many strawberries(zombies) you put in, if the smoothie(movie) sucks, there's no point drinking(watching) it.

Eh? Ehhhh?

filmmaker2

10-06-2005, 03:33 PM

Well, the thing is, I've seen VERY few zombie movies I couldn't watch. I like a lot of the bad ones. I liked "Oasis of the Zombies." Used to own that, before I threw it in the trash one day. But I want you to know that, before I threw it away, I loved that movie!

AmericanManiac

10-10-2005, 01:48 PM

Why did you throw it awayif you loved it?

kpropain

10-10-2005, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Well, the thing is, I've seen VERY few zombie movies I couldn't watch. I like a lot of the bad ones. I liked "Oasis of the Zombies." Used to own that, before I threw it in the trash one day. But I want you to know that, before I threw it away, I loved that movie!

I have "Oasis of The Zombies" on dvd, good ole Eurotrash :D

filmmaker2

10-10-2005, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Well, the thing is, I've seen VERY few zombie movies I couldn't watch. I like a lot of the bad ones. I liked "Oasis of the Zombies." Used to own that, before I threw it in the trash one day. But I want you to know that, before I threw it away, I loved that movie!

Why did I throw it away? Well, I hated it by that time. But I want you to know that...that, before I hated the movie, which led to me eventually throwing it away, I LOVED it! I really did folks!

Nachtmahr

10-11-2005, 01:10 PM

Too many zombie movies? Nah! As long as they are better than House of the Dead (argh!)...:D

AmericanManiac

10-12-2005, 12:25 AM

Yes I agree my fiance bought me house of the dead I thought it was going to be a kick ass movie but they ruined it by putting the video game shots in it.

filmmaker2

10-12-2005, 01:36 AM

I am a proud owner of House of the Dead and it is one of my favorite recent bad films. It is Oasis of the Zombies for the new milennium

PR3SSUR3

10-12-2005, 08:17 AM

Why are some people still needing more and more zombies?

Perhaps they're lacking that gene that deals with repetition, derivativity and boredom.

ENOUGH brains!

scouse mac

10-12-2005, 08:38 AM

It was only until a few years ago that zombie films started to make a come back. Before that we had vampire films up to eyeballs. Eveything ebbs and flows and pretty soon zombie films will on the back burner and something else will re-emerge to take their place

taylorsmommy

10-12-2005, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by scouse mac
It was only until a few years ago that zombie films started to make a come back. Before that we had vampire films up to eyeballs. Eveything ebbs and flows and pretty soon zombie films will on the back burner and something else will re-emerge to take their place

I'm hoping for "Creature From the Black Lagoon"! LOL

PR3SSUR3

10-12-2005, 08:45 AM

Mummies have had their five minutes of resurrection, so did giant spiders a few years ago.

New creatures would be very hard to establish (the "Shadmock" from The Monster Club, anyone?) - it makes one wonder sometimes if all the good ideas really have already been taken.

scouse mac

10-12-2005, 08:56 AM

To tie in with the remake debate, i would love to see a good modern day version of Them!. That was the film that started me off on the horror road when i was a wee nipper

PR3SSUR3

10-12-2005, 09:03 AM

Those?

scouse mac

10-12-2005, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Those?

Them! was a 1950's B movie about giant ants ( the result of A-bomb testing ) who take up residence in the storm drains of downtown LA. Absolutely brilliant (the fact that i was seven or eight at the time probably helped!)

PR3SSUR3

10-12-2005, 09:15 AM

ah... THAT Them!

>cough!<

:D

newb

10-12-2005, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by scouse mac
Them! was a 1950's B movie about giant ants ( the result of A-bomb testing ) who take up residence in the storm drains of downtown LA. Absolutely brilliant (the fact that i was seven at eight at the time probably helped!)

Loved the old bug movies...this was my fav.

http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10128000/10128568.jpg

if by chance i get busted for bandwith stealing and the pic disappears...its "The Deadly Mantis"