A theory of mine

[SKOOFx]

Do any of you find it possible that the "insane" or "weird" are the way they are because they know too much and thier minds cant process their thoughts the way our's do.

Maybe they have a different connection with the world and what it is.

I mean, what is reality? Its all chemicals in your brain. So by that logic, how is anything you feel real? You take acid(never have) and boom..all of a sudden your universe is altered. And when we think about it, what our eyes and brain process IS real(at the time and in our memories).

I took mdma once(real E in purest form- which is safe in low dosagees) [i did months of research prior- i dont abuse my body-i read alot before i try something.took me 21 years to try weed], and during and for a few days after, My whole outlook on the world was different. I was happy..calm...appreciated life for even the smallest things(i felt like i was 16 again). and y? because a chemical was altered in my head. So if we can alter our chemicals..(which i dont recommend..ive experimented a little bit with the standard stuff [weed-e-painkillers])..which then results in altering our mood..and outlook on the world....how can we trust what we really beleive or feel?

I would recommend that at one point in life, everyone should get at least drunk or smoke a j. Its a simple little task, that most people dismiss as either stupid, or just plain fun(2 different extremes) BUT one cant deny that altering your perception to an extent can definitly enlighten one.

any thoughts?

[Haunted]

Ooh..fun topic...

I know that I take antidepressants and antipsychotics not because it's voque to do so, but because life isn't as fun without them.

People misunderstand two things, about what I have to live with daily. Number one is that people take these pills to make themselves happy. No, people take these pills to make themselves regular. It's like Metamucil for the brain.

The other thing is that people believe that psycosis is a disease that causes you to be dangerous to other people, that it really fucks you up.

In fact, psychopathy or sociopathy are the diseases (or whatever) that make you hurt other people. Psychosis only rarely makes people dangerous. However, if you're taking your meds, seeing your doctor, and just generally taking care of yourself, you don't even have to much to worry about psychosis.

Let me just tell you something about psychosis.... It's a drag.


Now, does my so-called insanity make me a creative genius? Probably not, but it does give me a few good "idears" from time to time.

[novakru]

OODLES of thoughts on this.
I studied a bit of physchology (& YES,a little knowledge is extremely dangerous!!)

I thought I would go into this field because we have scizopherina
running thru the family genes and I wanted so badly to understand this horrendous "disease".(and hope to whatever holy I didn't get it)
After years and years of talking to a family member that unfortunely suffers(and I do mean SUFFERS) from this,
I came to the theory,along with other sources of information,that you can be overly sensitive to this world( especially people who are autistic.) Some people's frequencys are tweaked a little too high and some can see and feel things that"normal"people do not see-but I have no doubt they are real..simply because what ever YOUR reality is-it IS.
My family member,in one of her "episodes"went into the beginning of time....She saw the earth created,she saw the beginning of animal life,she saw dinosaurs and then finally-humans...and she couldn't have been this detailed,knowing as little as she did of evolution-etc. As she related all this to me-the back hairs of my neck stood out and I felt my stomach falling into the abyss,she was telling me something powerful.

I believe that quantum physics is the answer to all the questions we have..... our perception,creation,higher power,why we are here,death,destruction,mental illness-etc etc
But seeing as how we are in the infancy of this amazing science....it'll be awhile.

As far as drugs are concerned-I think one day we will be able to alter our minds as we choose,just by our own will.
I never got an epiphany from drugs,I just felt sick the next day.

[SKOOFx]

I used to be on celexa for anxiety. It helped, but after a while, it just didnt feel right anymore, so i kicked it and tried to fix my hea dup on my own. The celexa definitly helped, but after a year or 2 on that shit, i cant help but wonder if its done any damage. I thikn it definitly changed me permanently (nothing bad), but i guess like you said. Some people need it.

I still have bad anxiety, but beleive it or not, smoking weed and the occasional experiment with drugs does me good. Im very paranoid with my mind, i want it to be stable and in order, and by me worrying about eveyr little thing, it only makes it worse. Sometimes when you just let go. Do something that you wouldnt normally do and just survive it, the end result is you becoming a stronger person. Its kind of like your mind walks away from the experience saying " See, you did what you did..it was fun and its over...your still the same" I have a fear of getting bad anxiety again, and the fear of the anxiety causes it. So my experimentation (not only with drugs, but with spirituality, self refection etc) is my way of learning about my mentality and growing as a person.

Does that make sense? Because its hard to explain, these are just thoughts in my head(so its hard to explain)...but to the rest of the world that knows me, i doubt the struggle within(that we all have) shows.

PS- its interesting though, environment has alot to do with this. When i travel, these issues barely phase me. I guess routine is the mother of all fuckups.

[SKOOFx]

PS NOVAKRU - VERY well said & Very interesting points

PS HAUNTING - Your breakdown of the subject(although we are totally going into a different direction with this thread) was totally true(although im not too familiar with psychosis). As for the med i was taking..life wasnt any better on it, i wasnt having panic attacks, but i was kinda just dull to everything(when i used to enjoy life ALOT even with my panic attacks)Think tony soprano's panic attacks-i guess something like that..

Also, I tried weed for the first time while on those meds...i then tried coke..etc etc) THESE ARE THINGS I WOULD NEVER DO(why did i start at 21?). The meds made me so"ehh whatever" to everything. So while i was djing at a club, if someone threw some coke down..i did it)..thankfully i snapped out of it a month or 2 later..and never touched any of that crap again...I just like weed and the occasional pain killer. I did Pure mdma (real E) once and it was great, but because of my anxiety, i can never do it again..because the thought of messing with my serotonin levels causes alot of panic...so even though its amazing and safe in moderation, once was enough for the experience. I just wish i didnt give myself the anxiety. For example: if i felt like doing e again, i could do it and just take it as it comes..have fun..and thats it..BUT if i know im going to do it..'ll have panic attakcs thinking about it..if i were to do it randomly-without time to thikn about it-...the next day i would give myself an attack thikning of the depression or after effects it might give me. Thats my one downfall. (the drug example applies to many things in my life...so im just using it as a reference to how i am in certain situations-like i said besides weed, i really dont touch anything)

[Haunted]

Okay, I guess I can't say that I totally 100% believe in what most people term "reality." I agree with Novakru about being too tweaked. When I have my "moments" I get the sense of listening to frequency tuned out in space or at least not where I am. Sometimes at night, I get images of places so detailed and so realy, yet I know I've never been there. Clairavoyance? Maybe.

I think being a Witch causes some problems not only socially, but mentally. I go through the motions of a spell, I get a result, and then I get the sense of, "Wait a minute. Did I really just do that? Hmm...I shouldn't tell anyone about this or they'll think I'm crazy." In Witchcraft, after a couple of times, you realize that it's not a coincidence. However, you still wonder if you're delusional, because of what society tells us.

Science is cool, but even science isn't 100%. However, once again, I agree with Novakru...Quantum Physics will unlock many secrets once we understand it more.

Reality is said to be, pure consciousness, an illusion, a box, and finally and least likely, an absolute.

[The_Return]

I shouldnt have read this thread....I wont be able to think tonight, Ill be thinking to much....

[Haunted]

You know, I'd love to see some of the members here get in a deep down intellectual groove. Just for a little bit. I know we're here to have fun, but maybe sharing interesting thoughts and theories would open us all up.

[SKOOFx]

^ Your post made me remember something.

When i was younger, i was VERY spritual. (now i'm more the type to be open to all and i respect all) i dont know what is real or what isnt. Its all about what i feel.. I dont beleive in organized religion. Think about it. Your brainwashed from day one. Your told what to beleive..whats right..whats wrong. It took me a long time to deprogram myself. But after i did, it boggles my mind how people are so blind to the obvious. (but thats not for me to judge..it just annoys me) (The obvious being..what a crock organized religon is)

Anyway back to the topic. Your post above made me remember of a time when i was experimenting with outer body experiences(and yes i feel compelled to type..im not crazy, ive just always been open to new ideas) I Imagined myself somewhere..with so much detail..that i almost felt as if i was definitily there. I even had the music in the backgroung playing in my head..i could hear it in so much detail. and then the strangest thing happened......

when i was done,I turned on the radio...(which had on a poppy top 40s type crapstation) and they JUST began playing the song i had playing in my head(Robert Miles- Children)(as i imagined it in the background of the area was transporting myself to. THEY WOULD NEVER PLAY THAT SONG. So i put the radio louder..and yes..the song i was imagining listening to while trying to "meditate", was actually on that station. (let alone the song was like 6 years old and nowhere near the genre of the stations programming)

i wonder if that has any "wicca-ness" to it? Any thoughts haunting?

[novakru]

Serendipity

Thinking of someone and then they call

Thinking of someone and KNOWING what they are doing,only to find out later-you were right(also called"remote viewing")


And if you are thinking about something-i.e. a song and it's plays....who says YOU didn't reach out and make that happen?

I do it all the time because I do not have a cd player in my car-so I have to rely on the radio...before I go anywhere-I think of what songs I'd like to hear and if I am not too spacey or distracted-they play.

And I agree with Haunted-I would love to see this thread get alot of notice and get true emos and thoughts here.


So shall I will it,So shall it be done-wooooooooooooooooo

[novakru]

ummm


I SAID...(*clears throat*)


It Be Done.

*spooky music starts*

[ItsAlive75]

I read a short story in one of my creative writing classes that dealt with this.

The main character did every drug imaginable because he was trying to alter his perception of reality. But, he kept getting tired of each reality and had to do a new drug every day just to keep from getting bored. By the end he was trapped in this Alice in Wonderland sort of world that eventually drove him mad, because he couldn't control his reality anymore.

SKOOFx, you're right. Once in awhile, go ahead, alter the chemicals in your brain, mess em' all up and see what happens. But you should worry about the long term effects of anything you take. God forbid you end up in a world you have no control over... that'd be freaky.

[novakru]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
God forbid you end up in a world you have no control over... that'd be freaky.


You are too funny

lmao

[Kemal]

I mean, what is reality?

Reality is what exists regardless of whether you believe in it or not.

[Haunted]

Thanks, smart ass.;) :D



I've got it! I'm going to tell all of my witch buddies to start treating everyone who doesn't believe in what they (witches) do like idiots.

"You don't believe I can curse you? That is so dumb."

(Am not directing this at you Kemal. It's just something I've wanted to say).

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Haunted
I've got it! I'm going to tell all of my witch buddies to start treating everyone who doesn't believe in what they (witches) do like idiots.


Pshh... Screw witchcraft, gimme Room Raiders and the new Volkswagen Beetle convertible!

(pops polo collar)

[novakru]

ok,Insomnia Club-any deep thoughts?

[novakru]

'parently not

[jenna26]

I have a friend that is schizophrenic and his reality is far more baffling and scary than my own, but no less convincing. I will say this, this person is the greatest judge of character I have known. It is almost scary how he can "see" into other people. And I have often compared it to a sixth sense.

As far the drug issue....I never gained anything from any of my experimentations. It was fun at the time, but I never learned anything except to stay far away. Altering my reality to that degree did not gain me any perspective on the reality I was trying to escape at the time. The reality I would always have to go back into.

[novakru]

Originally posted by SKOOFx
Do any of you find it possible that the "insane" or "weird" are the way they are because they know too much and thier minds cant process their thoughts the way our's do.

Maybe they have a different connection with the world and what it is.

I mean, what is reality? Its all chemicals in your brain. So by that logic, how is anything you feel real? You take acid(never have) and boom..all of a sudden your universe is altered. And when we think about it, what our eyes and brain process IS real(at the time and in our memories).

I took mdma once(real E in purest form- which is safe in low dosagees) [i did months of research prior- i dont abuse my body-i read alot before i try something.took me 21 years to try weed], and during and for a few days after, My whole outlook on the world was different. I was happy..calm...appreciated life for even the smallest things(i felt like i was 16 again). and y? because a chemical was altered in my head. So if we can alter our chemicals..(which i dont recommend..ive experimented a little bit with the standard stuff [weed-e-painkillers])..which then results in altering our mood..and outlook on the world....how can we trust what we really beleive or feel?

I would recommend that at one point in life, everyone should get at least drunk or smoke a j. Its a simple little task, that most people dismiss as either stupid, or just plain fun(2 different extremes) BUT one cant deny that altering your perception to an extent can definitly enlighten one.

any thoughts?

off the thread:SKOOFx,everytime I see your name,I picture frat football players in a bar and you walking in and them yelliing--SKOOFFFFFF!!!!!
Anyway back to it,do you have any more words of wisdom?
Maybe we can wake this topic up.

[SKOOFx]

at the moment, its a lazy ass saturday and i dont feel like going out or doing anything. I just need a night of kicking back.

I have a creative bug, and i feel like expressing myself via some kind of art, but im experiencing a case of "writers block", so im sittng home ..drinking a few beers, and seeing where that takes me..

So..to reboot this topic...my question to u is.

have u ever felt like your full of emotion, and you want to somehow express it, but your just kind of stuck? so you sit back..listen to music and just think to yourself....knowing tha tif you could express what your feeling (whether through poetry,painting,music,etc) youd feel much better. I dont mean that what u feel is bad, but your thoughts are racing, and it would be nice to just manifest them into a solid.

[jenna26]

I know what you mean. I write and it has always been the perfect outlet for me when I am experiencing emotional overload. It is helpful in getting my head straight, making me see my situtation more clearly. I have also found that when I am at my angriest, or at my saddest, I am also at my most creative.

[novakru]

Jenna-yep,I used to be the most creative if wound up over anything,or if I needed to cry.
I can't paint anymore
or write
I have taken 4 rolls of film-every single picture-pure dogpoo.

SKOOOOOFFFFF!!!-
I wish I had my outlets these days.I have all this emotion and it comes out all wrong because I try to verbalize it or write something on this horror forum.
This is really pathetic but now that I seem to have noway to express thru art ,I go to the gym and focus all my anger into pushing myself...it never works.I am just tired.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally posted by novakru
Jenna-yep,I used to be the most creative if wound up over anything,or if I needed to cry.
I can't paint anymore
or write
I have taken 4 rolls of film-every single picture-pure dogpoo.

SKOOOOOFFFFF!!!-
I wish I had my outlets these days.I have all this emotion and it comes out all wrong because I try to verbalize it or write something on this horror forum.
This is really pathetic but now that I seem to have noway to express thru art ,I go to the gym and focus all my anger into pushing myself...it never works.I am just tired.

I scream at random people on the street, seems to help. :)

[jenna26]

Originally posted by novakru
Jenna-yep,I used to be the most creative if wound up over anything,or if I needed to cry.
I can't paint anymore
or write
I have taken 4 rolls of film-every single picture-pure dogpoo.

SKOOOOOFFFFF!!!-
I wish I had my outlets these days.I have all this emotion and it comes out all wrong because I try to verbalize it or write something on this horror forum.
This is really pathetic but now that I seem to have noway to express thru art ,I go to the gym and focus all my anger into pushing myself...it never works.I am just tired.

I honestly don't know what I would do if I couldn't write anymore.
I think everyone needs that outlet, that one way of letting all the pent up emotion flow out of them.
Question.....do you tend to bottle up your emotions? Do you push your anger down rather than talking about it with the people close to you? Because I have that problem, I tend to try to make everyone happy but myself and that usually means ignoring what I need to move past my more negative emotions.

[novakru]

I talk all the time to everybody about everything,but not usually about what going on in my head....I have attempted before and I started noticing the person's head start to do that dog head twist when it hears something it doesn't understand-and I almost heard them audibly go 'mmmerrrr?'
I think the screaming thing Murderdoll was saying might work-even if it doesn't-it seems like fun!

[jenna26]

LMAO....yeah, I guess I see what you mean. I don't often talk to people about what is going on inside my head either. Way too scary. :eek: :p

[novakru]

I just noticed there's a full moon.Skooooofff has to think of some good ponderings on that one!

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

Originally posted by jenna26
LMAO....yeah, I guess I see what you mean. I don't often talk to people about what is going on inside my head either. Way too scary. :eek: :p
...And by the way...thank you...;) :p

[jenna26]

Originally posted by RoLLiNLiGhTs
...And by the way...thank you...;) :p

So what, you are thanking me on behalf of everyone for not sharing what is going on in my head? That is so wrong. :( :p

Ponderings on a full moon, eh? I have none myself at the moment. Oh but I meant to mention before, screaming at random people on the street does sound like fun and like it may actually be the answer to my problems with expressing oppressed rage myself.

[novakru]

Exactly,and you can't get arrested for disturbing the peace because I have never seen a non-busy, non-loud street.


Well,apparently the moon takes my IQ down a few notches.

[novakru]

Originally posted by jenna26
I honestly don't know what I would do if I couldn't write anymore.
I think everyone needs that outlet, that one way of letting all the pent up emotion flow out of them.
Question.....do you tend to bottle up your emotions? Do you push your anger down rather than talking about it with the people close to you? Because I have that problem, I tend to try to make everyone happy but myself and that usually means ignoring what I need to move past my more negative emotions.
This just occured to me Jenna.
I am not normally a pottymouth,but I have noticed when I bottle up my anger-I cuss a great deal (except around my kids)

[jenna26]

Originally posted by novakru
This just occured to me Jenna.
I am not normally a pottymouth,but I have noticed when I bottle up my anger-I cuss a great deal (except around my kids)

I actually cuss a great deal anyway. I have a filthy mouth except around certain folks (never cuss in front of my parents or grandparents, never around kids). But I have noticed it does get worse if I am trying to hold back on something. I also have a tendency to finally snap and hit walls and other inanimate objects. It is weird, I never get violent with other people but I cause myself a lot of pain....lol.

[novakru]

I can dig that.:)

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

Originally posted by jenna26
I actually cuss a great deal anyway. I have a filthy mouth except around certain folks (never cuss in front of my parents or grandparents, never around kids). But I have noticed it does get worse if I am trying to hold back on something. I also have a tendency to finally snap and hit walls and other inanimate objects. It is weird, I never get violent with other people but I cause myself a lot of pain....lol.
Cause yourself pain? That's not good....:(

[novakru]

^There's a certain satisfaction in breaking things,especially if it makes alot of noise....maybe she should leave the walls alone though-that hurts:D

[filmmaker2]

The dough, the dough! Take your aggression out on the dough!

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

Originally posted by novakru
^There's a certain satisfaction in breaking things,especially if it makes alot of noise....maybe she should leave the walls alone though-that hurts:D
...Damn, I'm glad I don't have any of that kind of agression...:D

[novakru]

Originally posted by RoLLiNLiGhTs
...Damn, I'm glad I don't have any of that kind of agression...:D

Don't hijack dude-you'll get deleted!!

Shhhh,AND BE QUIET.

[jenna26]

Originally posted by RoLLiNLiGhTs
Cause yourself pain? That's not good....:(

No not good. I have almost broken my hand a time or two. Kicked a bed frame once and that hurt like hell also. So yes, I do. Better than hurting other people though. :eek: ;)

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

Originally posted by novakru
Don't hijack dude-you'll get deleted!!

Shhhh,AND BE QUIET.
...Been there, done that... It was in my own b-day thread...:rolleyes:



And by the way, I'm not hijacking anything...:confused: You included me on your first post in your thread....;) :D

[novakru]

I was being facetious,and I know SKOOOOFFFF!! wouldn't mind anyways.

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

Originally posted by novakru
I was being facetious,and I know SKOOOOFFFF!! wouldn't mind anyways.
...Then it's all good...;) :D

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally posted by jenna26
Better than hurting other people though. :eek: ;)

Yeah, but not by that much.

[jenna26]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Yeah, but not by that much.

The only thing that really makes it better is I can't be arrested for punching a wall (well, my own anyway). :D Granted it is not quite as satisfying.

Kidding, I am relatively non-violent.