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bloodrayne

09-09-2005, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by bwind22
What do you folks think happens to someone after they die?

This is always an interesting topic for me because I tend to believe we become worm food and that's about it, but I like to hear other people's more optimistic take on it too...

Heaven? Hell? Reincarnation? Become a ghost?

What do you think happens? Heh...If ya REALLY want some opinions, we've done this before...

http://horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4096&highlight=heaven

Hmm, perhaps you and I think alike sometimes;)

novakru

09-09-2005, 08:02 AM

It would be really nice to just become worm food-I'd prefer that.

Hell is real.
Just not how the bible-thumpers think.

I think the essence of a person can linger after death,so-ghosts are likely.
We can put an emotional stamp on this planet-just visit Auschwictz,even though the camp itself was torn down-there is a feeling there.

Heaven-no clue,won't even bother pondering that.

Reincarnation-very possible.Some people are older than their(there) experience in this lifetime-so,reincarnation could explain it.

Here's what I think happens if you are a complete waste of oxygen- then die:

Your soul gets pulled into this creepy organic monsterlike mouth that is endless and inescapable.
Filled with pain that can't even be described because even extreme ultimate earthbound pain is a flea compared to this.
And the worst part?
No Higher Power will, not only try to save you,but doesn't care.And that level of lost is indescribable.

bloodrayne

09-09-2005, 08:03 AM

OH...But...As for my own answers in that old thread....I'm kinda beginning to lean more towards reincarnation...

newb

09-09-2005, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by bloodrayne
OH...But...As for my own answers in that old thread....I'm kinda beginning to lean more towards reincarnation...

As do i. There seems to be certain era's that i'm drawn to and have an affection for. Such as the old west. Just call me "Newb the Kid".
That and medieval times.

bloodrayne

09-09-2005, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by newb
That and medieval times. YES...I've had dreams that feel WAY too real...And when I wake up, they feel more like memories....And, I can even add details that weren't in the dream....I can't really explain it any better than that......But, that's the reason for my change in thinking....

SKOOFx

09-09-2005, 08:14 AM

I would love to hear other opinions on the text i wrote below. I know its somewhat long, and most people avoid these posts, so im writing this here to grab your attention :)
----

Fredrich Nietzche describes it best.

I beleived this way b4 reading his books, but it was nice to see that others agree as well.

Heaven and hell is simply a state of being. Originally the gospels and "sacred" (heavy on the quotes) texts were just primative guidelines on how one should live life.

it mentioned nothing of sin..or punishment...it was more of a break down- If you are good and blah blah....you will go to heaven (meaning..your life wont suck and you will be happy)..

If you lie cheat..etc etc..your life can turn to hell....and you wont be happy..

thats all.

Then religion just became twisted as hell...I'm spiritual ....but not religious...I beleive what ive learned and experienced in life. We are all alive on this planet together. Its a balance, thats all. The problem with the human race is that - we try to understand more than we are capable of. In reality, we should just live...try to be happy with others and be free to express ourselives without judgment...

Birds fly...swim fish..we as humans can learn from that...we should just live...and not try to over analyze life. that only puts restrictions. Weve been brainwashed from day one..with stories of heaven..hell and god....its all horseshit. And people who beleive the whole jesus hype scare me. Buddhism is the closest thing to a respectable religion ( i know..its a philosophy..not a religion). But it just teaches you how to b happy. Buddhism has no real rules. it just suggests ways to keep centered.

but to make a long story short (cause i can go on and on- especially with the sihtty state of affairs our country is in with all those retarded religious freaks)

WE BECOME WORM FOOD

SKOOFx

09-09-2005, 08:17 AM

And the reason i enjoy dark films..art..music etc..is because i beleive that good and evil are one..and we need both ..and each extreme only makes us appreciate the opposite.

Also its a form of expression to break away from all the religion crap. All that talk about sinning and how wrong it is..blah blah. Sins dont exist.. we chosoe what to do..wrong or right...its ok....there is nobody judging....we just do what we do and some learn.some dont...

novakru

09-09-2005, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by SKOOFx
And the reason i enjoy dark films..art..music etc..is because i beleive that good and evil are one..and we need both ..and each extreme only makes us appreciate the opposite.

Also its a form of expression to break away from all the religion crap. All that talk about sinning and how wrong it is..blah blah. Sins dont exist.. we chosoe what to do..wrong or right...its ok....there is nobody judging....we just do what we do and some learn.some dont...
I really like the just b and judgement part.
It would be really nice to get into that kinda zen mode where every moment is lived IN the moment,without much thought to it.
I would love that,things are really getting to me these days.

Buddism is cool
Any thing is cool is it's not abused.

Angelakillsluts

09-09-2005, 08:29 AM

Not sure, but I'll make sure you're the first one I tell when I find out. :p

SKOOFx

09-09-2005, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by novakru
I really like the just b and judgement part.
It would be really nice to get into that kinda zen mode where every moment is lived IN the moment,without much thought to it.
I would love that,things are really getting to me these days.

Buddism is cool
Any thing is cool is it's not abused.

Yeah . socrates said it best. Everything in moderation. And i know exactly how u feel, lately the littlest things piss me off..i can go from super happy..to super angry in 2.1 seconds.

novakru

09-09-2005, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by SKOOFx
Yeah . socrates said it best. Everything in moderation. And i know exactly how u feel, lately the littlest things piss me off..i can go from super happy..to super angry in 2.1 seconds.

That's happening with so many people lately,my friends are all being jackasses.
I have to wonder if there is some sort of wierd planet alignment?

I got a burger when I went out(dead cat aside)
and the girl at the take-out window was such a....
Anyway-usually I say nothing and mosey on along.This time I smiled at her and said"THANK YOU ASSHOLE"

I never do that.
And I hardly cuss...but these past 2 days,I have been a guttermouth.

Are people around you being wierd too??

ItsAlive75

09-09-2005, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
I'm sooooo devested.

You removed your vest? How COULD you?:p

ANYWAY, after I die I'm going to purgatory... still got some sins to clean off before I go up to Heaven.

novakru

09-09-2005, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Not my sweet, innocent novakru, a guttermouth?I'm sooooo devested. :( What is going on? :(

I'm fine now
everything's oooook
I had forgotten all about my lil chill pills the doc gave me:D

wufong

09-09-2005, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by bwind22
What do you folks think happens to someone after they die?

This is always an interesting topic for me because I tend to believe we become worm food and that's about it, but I like to hear other people's more optimistic take on it too...

Heaven? Hell? Reincarnation? Become a ghost?

What do you think happens?

being a good catholic, i would love to set people straight on this issue. but apprantly we aren't allowed to cuss at people, so i'll leave it be.

AUSTIN316426808

09-09-2005, 05:41 PM

Ya, good catholics always make jokes about natural disasters.

wufong

09-09-2005, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Ya, good catholics always make jokes about natural disasters. no use crying over it. but that said, doesn't mean i don't feel compasion for the victims or for the family members left behind to grieve over their terrible loss

AUSTIN316426808

09-09-2005, 06:12 PM

Nobody said you had to cry over it, just try to act like you're a human and not make jokes about it.

wufong

09-09-2005, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Nobody said you had to cry over it, just try to act like you're a human and not make jokes about it. well the joke was more directed towards bush than the victims. but yes you're right it is insulting to the victims and their loved ones. I also understand that you lost some people who were close to you, so i apologize for any offence or grief i might have caused you..

ENTITY2000

09-09-2005, 07:02 PM

HEAVEN, i hope!!!!!!!!!!

AUSTIN316426808

09-09-2005, 07:08 PM

All I'm going to say is I hope it's not just over when you die.

Deposable

09-09-2005, 09:35 PM

There is nothing needs to be said about wufong. Everyone already knows he's a idiot. Some people have wacky beliefs about the after life.

Sorry, No Heaven. No Hell. Nothing at all. If their was a Heaven we would have been there before we were born. That to me... is proof. If you think about it, we were dead before we were alive.

You know that feeling when your going to sleep, that is the same feeling you'll get when you die. Sleep but you'll never wake up, so who cares. You won't know.

orangestar

09-09-2005, 10:05 PM

I used to be the crazed-atheist-girl that didnt believe in anything except being worm-food....but that was I while ago.

I guess you could say I was 'saved'. I dont know how much people want to talk about it on the forum, but I've never believed anything as strongly as I believe that God is most definetly up there watching over us. I have no doubts that heaven and hell exist.

wufong

09-09-2005, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by Deposable
Sorry, No Heaven. No Hell. Nothing at all. If their was a Heaven we would have been there before we were born. That to me... is proof. If you think about it, we were dead before we were alive.
you have no idea about theology do you? "duh there can't be a heaven, cause i don't remember it" and as far as the "we were dead before we were alive" thing..No sorry you weren't dead before you were born because you didn't excist. and accuse people of having "whacky after life beliefs" you have the most idiotic "pre-life" beliefs.

Originally posted by Deposable
You know that feeling when your going to sleep, that is the same feeling you'll get when you die. Sleep but you'll never wake up, so who cares. You won't know.

you sound like like you've experienced this first hand? sorry but i find it just so funny when someone calls someone else a idiot then go on to type what you typed. i find it hypi ugh hypot sigh, whats that word??? never mind you're probably too retarded to understand it anyway.

The STE

09-09-2005, 11:11 PM

Reincarnation until we reach oneness with the universe (Nirvana)

Deposable

09-09-2005, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by wufong
you sound like like you've experienced this first hand? sorry but i find it just so funny when someone calls someone else a idiot then go on to type what you typed. i find it hypi ugh hypot sigh, whats that word??? never mind you're probably too retarded to understand it anyway.

LOL, yep. I am too retarded to understand. For knowing so much about theology, I guess you never heard of Reincarnation. Have you ever heard the expression "Your a old soul", meaning you lived 2 or 3 lifes.

If GOD created us (like your fairy tale book says) then WE were in Heaven before we were born. If you are saying we weren't created in GOD's sad image because we didn't "exist" then your disproving everything you believe in...

Why do I bother. You just a dumb immature kid.

AUSTIN316426808

09-09-2005, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Deposable

If GOD created us (like your fairy tale book says) then WE were in Heaven before we were born. If you are saying we weren't created in GOD's sad image because we didn't "exist" then your disproving everything you believe in...

The bible says that Adam was created by God from dust, then God made Eve from Adam and called it a woman(man with a womb). They had Kane,Able ect. ect. According to the bible only Jesus was in heaven before coming to earth.

Not religious, just saying what I've read.

Deposable

09-09-2005, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
The bible says that Adam was created by God from dust, then God made Eve from Adam and called it a woman(man with a womb). They had Kane,Able ect. ect. According to the bible only Jesus was in heaven before coming to earth.

Not religious, just saying what I've read.

Adam was created from dust ? Is that correct ? How can anyone believe that fucking book ?

We were all Created in God's image, right?

AUSTIN316426808

09-10-2005, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Deposable
Adam was created from dust ? Is that correct ? How can anyone believe that fucking book ?

We were all Created in God's image, right?

Once again, I'm just saying what I've read and researched but yes, according to the bible Adam was made of dust(You know that saying ashes to ashes, dust to dust). And as far as being made in God's image, from what research I've done that refers to his qualities...different emotions,logic ect. ect.

I didn't write it, I just read it.

bloodrayne

09-10-2005, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by Deposable
Adam was created from dust ? Is that correct ? How can anyone believe that fucking book ?Here's a little scientific fact for ya:

EVERY single element that's found in dirt, is also found in the human body...Zinc, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, etcetera...Every element...The rest (the majority) is just water...

Interesting, huh?

Originally posted by Deposable
We were all Created in God's image, right? Imagine if you took some clay (or dirt ;)), molded it to look like you, then had the power to give it qualities, personality traits, and morals that you possess.....Essentially, creating a being 'in your own image' out of clay (or dirt)...

That's what that means...

I hope that helps to clear that up :)

Ritualistic

09-10-2005, 02:27 AM

we Fuck like minks, raise rugrats and live happily ever after then we die and we become minks that fucks like minks then we raise ratrugs and live happily ever after. so forth

:-D

Okay I am going to be serious now. I believe in reincarnation. that is all. I have to head to bed now because I have work like always.

bloodrayne

09-10-2005, 02:32 AM

Sweet Dreams :)

Deposable

09-10-2005, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I didn't write it, I just read it.

I wasn't sayin' you were lying man. Just wondering if anyone else knew ? I don't remember a lot about the Bible from sunday school. Bored this piss out of me.

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Here's a little scientific fact for ya:

EVERY single element that's found in dirt, is also found in the human body...Zinc, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, etcetera...Every element...The rest (the majority) is just water...

thats funny you say that because thats what the human races me of sometimes... Dirt. But still, a cool fact.

I just think; if "god" created us in his own image. Then that guy was a fucked up in the head.

Jesus! I am turning gothic! hahaha :cool:

AUSTIN316426808

09-10-2005, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by Deposable

I just think; if "god" created us in his own image. Then that guy was a fucked up in the head.

Well, Adam and Eve were perfect and immortal until Eve ate the fruit from the forbidden tree, they were yet to have a child when they lost their perfection and immortality there for they passed their flaws onto their children which is everybody there for the world is fucked up.

Deposable

09-10-2005, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Well, Adam and Eve were perfect and immortal until Eve ate the fruit from the forbidden tree, they were yet to have a child when they lost their perfection and immortality there for they passed their flaws onto their children which is everybody there for the world is fucked up.

So it is all women's fault, huh? haha, j/k

Don't you think if she ate the fruit in the first place, she was already flawed ?

bloodrayne

09-10-2005, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by Deposable
So it is all women's fault, huh? haha, j/k

Don't you think if she ate the fruit in the first place, she was already flawed ? Nah...That was blamed on Satan....God's creation was perfect, but he gave man free will, so that everything wouldn't be preordained....Eve was tempted, she trusted him, she sinned...

So...You COULD say that humanities' flaws (the first sin) was caused by a woman trusting a man:p

Deposable

09-10-2005, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by bloodrayne
So...You COULD say that humanities flaws (the first sin) was caused by a woman trusing a man:p

hahaha most likely

AUSTIN316426808

09-10-2005, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Nah...That was blamed on Satan....God's creation was perfect, but he gave man free will, so that everything wouldn't be preordained....Eve was tempted, she trusted him, she sinned...

So...You COULD say that humanities flaws (the first sin) was caused by a woman trusing a man:p

If anyone is to blame it's Adam. Eve was tempted by someone who's knowledge far surpassed her own and she fell for it, Adam on the other hand followed behind Eve. He had no higher intelligence tempting him he just did what his wife wanted him to in fear of losing her.

bloodrayne

09-10-2005, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
If anyone is to blame it's Adam. Eve was tempted by someone who's knowledge far surpassed her own and she fell for it, Adam on the other hand followed behind Eve. He had no higher intelligence tempting him he just did what his wife wanted him to in fear of losing her. Aha!...I KNEW it!......Love truly IS the root of all evil

lol

AUSTIN316426808

09-10-2005, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Aha!...I KNEW it!......Love truly IS the root of all evil

lol

You could say that but if you wanna be technical it's envy.

bloodrayne

09-10-2005, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
You could say that but if you wanna be technical it's envy. Shhh...You're harshin' my giggle buzz...I was tryin' to be funny...

lol

Haunted

09-10-2005, 05:40 AM

Reincarnation all the way.

wufong

09-10-2005, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by Deposable
LOL, yep. I am too retarded to understand. For knowing so much about theology, I guess you never heard of Reincarnation. Have you ever heard the expression "Your a old soul", meaning you lived 2 or 3 lifes.
wait a minute, you said that you didn't believe in heaven because you don't remember being there, yet you start ranting about reincarnation? go figure... do you remember any past lives? LOL

Originally posted by Deposable
If GOD created us (like your fairy tale book says) then WE were in Heaven before we were born. If you are saying we weren't created in GOD's sad image because we didn't "exist" then your disproving everything you believe in...
how would you know what the good book says? i've told you noone is in heaven before coming here. so either you're lying about reading the book, someone told you lies about it or you read it, it's just your dyslexia makes it too hard for you too understand

wufong

09-10-2005, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Deposable
Adam was created from dust ? Is that correct ? How can anyone believe that fucking book?

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Here's a little scientific fact for ya:

EVERY single element that's found in dirt, is also found in the human body...Zinc, Copper, Iron, Magnesium, etcetera...Every element...The rest (the majority) is just water...

Amazing what those "dumbass" goat hearders knew 5 thousand odd years ago huh? ( that question was put to desposable)

ItsAlive75

09-10-2005, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808

I didn't write it, I just read it.

You didn't happen to go to a Catholic grade school, did ya?

I had to learn that shit backwards and forwards, here's a fun story about the Bible.

Apparently according to the Bible, the Earth actually isn't round, its more of a snowglobe shape. Below it is Hell, past the little glass casing is where Heaven and "God's touch" are.

So in our Religion class back in grade school, we were talking about it with our teacher, and some one said, "But we've had people go into space and photograph the Earth, we know its round. The Earth is round."

Our teacher said, "The Lord works in mysterious ways. Go to the principal's office."

RoLLiNLiGhTs

09-10-2005, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
You didn't happen to go to a Catholic grade school, did ya?

I had to learn that shit backwards and forwards, here's a fun story about the Bible.

Apparently according to the Bible, the Earth actually isn't round, its more of a snowglobe shape. Below it is Hell, past the little glass casing is where Heaven and "God's touch" are.

So in our Religion class back in grade school, we were talking about it with our teacher, and some one said, "But we've had people go into space and photograph the Earth, we know its round. The Earth is round."

Our teacher said, "The Lord works in mysterious ways. Go to the principal's office."
...LMAO!!!! Yeah, that sounds about right....

ItsAlive75

09-10-2005, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by RoLLiNLiGhTs
...LMAO!!!! Yeah, that sounds about right....

Seriously, its a joke.

David Cross did a great bit about it, said the Bible was written by Dungeons and Dragons players.

"And Jesus died. Ooooh, but then he roooooose from the dead! Because he had +7 chianmail armor and an ork sword!"

RoLLiNLiGhTs

09-10-2005, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Seriously, its a joke.

David Cross did a great bit about it, said the Bible was written by Dungeons and Dragons players.

"And Jesus died. Ooooh, but then he roooooose from the dead! Because he had +7 chianmail armor and an ork sword!"

LMAO!! :D I saw that shit...Man, David Cross is one funny dude....;) :p

ItsAlive75

09-10-2005, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by RoLLiNLiGhTs
LMAO!! :D I saw that shit...Man, David Cross is one funny dude....;) :p

Ever seen Mr. Show? He's hilarious in that show.

Marroe

09-10-2005, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by bwind22
What do you folks think happens to someone after they die?

This is always an interesting topic for me because I tend to believe we become worm food and that's about it, but I like to hear other people's more optimistic take on it too...

Heaven? Hell? Reincarnation? Become a ghost?

What do you think happens? You live inside of the TV with all of the other damned souls

AUSTIN316426808

09-10-2005, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
You didn't happen to go to a Catholic grade school, did ya?

Sadly yes, neither my parents or I am religious, I was just there to play football.

Ritualistic

09-11-2005, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Sweet Dreams :)

Thank you!! I didnt have sweet dreams but thank you anyways.

Originally posted byHaunted
Reincarnation all the way.

Yes indeed. PM me girlie....

:D

massacre man

09-11-2005, 06:55 AM

well i do believe that after you die you will arise and eat the flesh of people, that is why you are burried

filmmaker2

09-11-2005, 08:06 AM

Exactly, you took the words right outta my mouth. You get up and kill! The people you kill, GET UP AND KILL!

MichaelMyers

09-11-2005, 08:21 AM

Nothing.

Empress_Of_Drac

09-11-2005, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by bwind22
What do you folks think happens to someone after they die?

This is always an interesting topic for me because I tend to believe we become worm food and that's about it, but I like to hear other people's more optimistic take on it too...

Heaven? Hell? Reincarnation? Become a ghost?

What do you think happens?

nothing...if mortals die...they will dissolve to nothingness...emptiness...