I have finally got moths of thinking out of my system

[jay o2 waster]

i couldn't find anywere else to post this other than ::Cringe:: xanga:rolleyes: but i feel good to have finally written something that I am proud of. It is drug related as usual and not related to horror at all. But I am sure that some of you here will find it an intresting read. Feedback would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=jay_stob

[EXTR3MIST]

So, are you saying you have at last excreted intelligent moths?

I tip my hat, sir.

[evil_blonde]

"More than 150,000 Americans die of alcohol abuse each year. But in 10,000 years of usage, no one has ever died from marijuana."

My friend & I were arguing with my other friend & the teacher about this in class the other day. Haha.

[EXTR3MIST]

Bronchial disorders are common to all forms of smoking, and paranoia with even schizophrenic tendencies are increasingly apparent in regular cannabis use.

But the bottom line is, if everyone used dope and acid, nothing would get done and civilisation would collapse (hence the relevant terms waster, stoner, slacker etc.).

Therefore, the drug is indeed dangerous to society on the whole.


:cool:

[Deposable]

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
Bronchial disorders are common to all forms of smoking, and paranoia with even schizophrenic tendencies are increasingly apparent in regular cannabis use.

But the bottom line is, if everyone used dope and acid, nothing would get done and civilisation would collapse (hence the relevant terms waster, stoner, slacker etc.).

Therefore, the drug is indeed dangerous to society on the whole.


:cool:

:rolleyes: You guys are the dumbest, most ignorant mother fuckers.

I wanna talk about the "Bottom line" comment first. Do you think every pot smoker just sits around all day ? Your basing all your facts on stereotypes. EVERY stoners I know (and thats a fucking lot of them) has a job, besides the people who sell marijauna. Even my Dentist smokes weed on the side and he is the best/nicest Dentist I have ever had and I wouldn't want another Dentist.

Also, Relating "Dope" & "Acid" are like comparing Apple & Oranges. Both are fruits but not even close to being similiar. Acid is a hardcore drug & Marijuana is softcore. Yes, you can work, drive, and function while high. I don't recommend driving but if I had to choose between driving with a person who is high or a person who is drunk. Take a guess who I am going to choose ?

Alcohol , meth, heroin, and republicains are 100 million times worse for society then a herb that makes you happy and calm.

Less violent crimes would occur if pot was legal. How can a human deny another human with cancer, panic attacks, eating disorders, Pain, the rights to a cure.. And you know what ? I don't smoke weed, seriously.

:rolleyes:

Take your stereotypical ignorant views and shove them up your ass.

:cool:

[orangestar]

http://blog.glennf.com/images/mt/180px-Pwned_cat1.jpg

[EXTR3MIST]

There was something on the pro-cannabis link you posted about also indulging in LSD if you wish, therefore its inclusion here is a reflection on that - apples & oranges are still both fruit, as you will agree (whatever their specific differences).

It is not uncommon for cannabis users to jump on their high horses in the face of the establishment, but defending the drug by weighing it up against harder (legal and illegal) substances is hardly correct and does not justify promoting it as comparatively safe.

The "right to smoke" debate will rage on, but jobs or no jobs regular and heavy pot users are more disconnected from normal society than those who do not indulge in mind-altering THC - this is increasingly leading to non-productiveness, through irrational and psychopathic thought as much as lethargy.

The medical conditions you mention - cancer, eating disorders and panic attacks - are in fact possible symptoms of consuming weed in the first place.

Alleviating these by smoking more might seem somewhat counterproductive?

:)

[Zombee]

I can say first hand that drug use esp. Pot and LSD have damaged my mental state. I take anti-anxiety meds now and probably always will. I had some great times on drugs but would erase those all to have my restless mind calmed. I used to be a NORML advocate when I was younger. Now I regret the times I turned newbs onto drugs and told others how amazing they are.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by hellboy
Why so damn defensive? I'm against every drug that isnt legal. Not because of stereotypes or anything of the nature. Because they have affected my life in some way.

That wasn't so much a attack on your views as it was against EXTR3MIST. Honestly, I feel bad for what happen to you. How you were put in jail for drugs. But you should blame the laws & not the drug it self.

Its the mentally like that, that fucking drives me crazy!

It proves also how fucking stupid and ignorant you are when you say:

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
The medical conditions you mention - cancer, eating disorders and panic attacks - are in fact possible symptoms of consuming weed in the first place.


Yep... Cancer, eating disorders, & panic attacks are all caused by "consuming" weed.... yep. Pot smokers are disconnect from reality... What fucking reality do you have ? You make marijuana sound like heroin or crack. You are talking about a subject, where you know NOTHING about.

George Bush never smoked weed. But he can send thousands of troops to death for his views . Now THATS productiveness! I am sure Hilter didn't smoke weed either.

No matter how many big words you can use. No matter if you think your better then the people you judge. Your an idiot.http://www.bartleyr.com/images/oreillymad.jpg

[The STE]

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
Bronchial disorders are common to all forms of smoking, and paranoia with even schizophrenic tendencies are increasingly apparent in regular cannabis use.

according to whom?

[zomb5150]

Crack is Whack!

[EXTR3MIST]

Paranoia/Schizophrenia:-

...according to those who research how the human mind works, and particularly those who research the effect drugs may have on it. Since you're sitting in front of a computer, try Googling for "cannabis/schizophrenia" to bring up many sites concerned about this subject (as well as some denouncing it of course, but civilised debate on this issue - in this thread - might regrettably not be possible).

http://www.schizophrenia.com/New/Jan%2004/cannabisrisk.htm

Do you honestly not believe smoking dope can contribute to cancer, Deposable? The link with tobacco is unquestionable, and on its own cannabis contains more tar than tobacco. Respiratory and bronchial disorders, however small, are inevitable through smoking.

The THC mimics the actions of neurotransmitters in the brain and interferes with normal functions. It stands to reason this loss of control will come at a price - panic attacks and anxiety disorders are a likely result, turning severe in some users. Again, these symptoms are becoming widely known as research develops.

As for eating disorders, how many times have you had the munchies when stoned? Or avoided food in favour of a cigarette/joint (hence people gaining weight when they stop smoking)? Drugs mess with your systems, and your eating routines. :p

But you're right - if George W Bush and Hitler smoked dope, things would be a lot different.


:D

[Deposable]

I am sick today, So I feel like replying a long essay back. But when I feel better, I will.

I just have some questions:

1. Have you ever smoked marijuana ?

2. Do you know people who smoke Marijuana ? and if so, have you ever had a converstation with them about their "Dangerous Drug". because even if you say yes. I don't really think you have.

Also, I know a person that has Schizophrenia. He smoked weed and it HELPS his Schizophrenia. NO pot didn't cause it :rolleyes: He had it before he started smoking.

I have know A LOT of smokers and never had one said they "Heard voices" or went Schizo. Paranoid maybe, but thats because it is illegal, thats what makes it "Dangerous". People like you

;)

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

Originally posted by zomb5150
Crack is Whack!
...LMAO!!

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

Originally posted by zomb5150
Crack is Whack!
...Just Say No!!...LOL!:D

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by Deposable
I am sick today, So I feel like replying a long essay back. But when I feel better, I will.

I just have some questions:

1. Have you ever smoked marijuana ?

2. Do you know people who smoke Marijuana ? and if so, have you ever had a converstation with them about their "Dangerous Drug". because even if you say yes. I don't really think you have.

Also, I know a person that has Schizophrenia. He smoked weed and it HELPS his Schizophrenia. NO pot didn't cause it :rolleyes: He had it before he started smoking.

I have know A LOT of smokers and never had one said they "Heard voices" or went Schizo. Paranoid maybe, but thats because it is illegal, thats what makes it "Dangerous". People like you

;)

I know someone who got AIDS from smoking pot.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I know someone who got AIDS from smoking pot.

God... I really hope your joking. Because that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life... honestly.

Unless somepne is BLEEDING from a open wound from their lips/mouth and is passing around a joint. With FRESH blood on the joint. it is impossible for that to happen.

Also, you have to be a idiot. To hit a joint from a guy who is bleeding on a joint or has a open wound. :rolleyes:

You CAN'T get AIDS from Salvia

[ItsAlive75]

I think he was just being unfunny.

[zomb5150]

My Dad told me if I smoked pot my dick would fall off.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I think he was just being unfunny.

Sometimes I don't know about these guys

[BexTC]

Originally posted by zomb5150
My Dad told me if I smoked pot my dick would fall off.
Thats beautifull. My mum told me that if I smoked pot my hair would fall out... tested her theory alot in high school... she was wrong.

[MichaelMyers]

Originally posted by Deposable
Sometimes I don't know about these guys

Hey, keep race out of this. :mad:

[EXTR3MIST]

1. Have you ever smoked marijuana ?

2. Do you know people who smoke Marijuana ? and if so, have you ever had a converstation with them about their "Dangerous Drug". because even if you say yes. I don't really think you have.

Also, I know a person that has Schizophrenia. He smoked weed and it HELPS his Schizophrenia. NO pot didn't cause it He had it before he started smoking.

I have know A LOT of smokers and never had one said they "Heard voices" or went Schizo. Paranoid maybe, but thats because it is illegal, thats what makes it "Dangerous". People like you


I'm detecting a little naivety about the true nature of Schizophrenia - not only that, but what you are saying sounds like the depressed alcoholic who can relieve his "symptoms" and feel "normal" by... having a drink.

Whether the depression was caused by the drink doesn't matter, just as whether the Schizophrenia was caused by the dope doesn't matter. Scientists are convinced cannabis is A trigger, not THE trigger.

Your "not in my backyard" stance on drugs is perfectly understandable, but those who celebrate the highs of drugs while practically dismissing the comedowns and lows and prices that inevitably must be paid (sooner or later) are somewhat irritating - reinforcing my original point that idealistic hippies are a pain in the arse and not much good to anyone but themselves.

To answer your questions, I may have smoked marajuana on and off for over 10 years, knowing my limits - it's fun and sociable to get stoned, it's not so fun to see people increasingly dependent on the high in order to operate and to witness gradual personality and physical breakdown as a result.

Perhaps if you were less stoned, you could be more observant?

:cool:

[Deposable]

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST

I'm detecting a little naivety about the true nature of Schizophrenia - not only that, but what you are saying sounds like the depressed alcoholic who can relieve his "symptoms" and feel "normal" by... having a drink.

Whether the depression was caused by the drink doesn't matter, just as whether the Schizophrenia was caused by the dope doesn't matter. Scientists are convinced cannabis is A trigger, not THE trigger.

Your "not in my backyard" stance on drugs is perfectly understandable, but those who celebrate the highs of drugs while practically dismissing the comedowns and lows and prices that inevitably must be paid (sooner or later) are somewhat irritating - reinforcing my original point that idealistic hippies are a pain in the arse and not much good to anyone but themselves.

To answer your questions, I may have smoked marajuana on and off for over 10 years, knowing my limits - it's fun and sociable to get stoned, it's not so fun to see people increasingly dependent on the high in order to operate and to witness gradual personality and physical breakdown as a result.

Perhaps if you were less stoned, you could be more observant?

:cool:

Like I said before, I don't smoke weed at all. So maybe you should be more observant. Stop twisting facts around to get a answer that you desire.

If you smoked weed. Your a hypocritic, and that proves even more your a douche bag. Let me talk bad about something and go off and do it. Wow, thats really intelligent!

Stop comparing other drugs to marijuana to help your ignorant beliefs. I am only talking about ONE drug, not the whole idea of drugs not being dangerous. Are you a mother fucking Scientists ? We have enough proof that drinking to much water is extremely dangerous but does that stop anyone from drinking water ? Scientists can't figure out which part of the egg is bad for you. So your trusting them ? And not people that use it first hand ? Your complete jerk off

Don't say "reinforcing my original point that idealistic hippies are a pain in the arse and not much good to anyone but themselves." because you never had a original point besides talking about a subject that you don't understand. And hippies may be annoying but they are harmless... just like how marijuana is harmless to you and I. Its the people like you, who are dangerous.

[EXTR3MIST]

My original point was that Marajuana is dangerous to society, because lethargy and ill health are its most common side effects. If you are now taking the stance of questioning years of medical research because your pro-Cannabis argument has collapsed, I suggest you look some info up on the net or your local library and reassess your conclusions that the drug is primarily cool and medicinal. It is convenient that the likes of MS sufferers are exploited by dopeheads as justification to get stoned.

Your comparison of water and eggs to Marajuana is surely stupider than comparing other psychoactive substances?

As for not smoking yourself, perhaps your eye-rolling (i.e. sarcastic) smiley face was misplaced earlier. Being concerned about side effects does not make one a hypocrite, but perhaps promoting drugs while not indulging in them yourself is hypocrisy at its most dangerous.

[Deposable]

Exploited or proof that is helps people with serious problems. Which is MY point. The pills that doctors give out like candy are more DANGEROUS then marijuana. I can't make my case anymore clear. When you get cancer, I hope you don't do any "dangerous drugs".

I was never comparing water & eggs, dumbass. I was saying... Scientists come up with different answers all the time. One study will have one answer, another study will prove it wrong. That happens all the time. And you, try to use that as logic ? Like you have a lab coat on as your typing this shit.
:rolleyes:

Do you even know what promoting means? I am defending it for people with health issues, smart guy. Before you "try" and have a logical debt you should goto http://dictionary.reference.com/

[wufong]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
i couldn't find anywere else to post this other than ::Cringe:: xanga:rolleyes: but i feel good to have finally written something that I am proud of. It is drug related as usual and not related to horror at all. But I am sure that some of you here will find it an intresting read. Feedback would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=jay_stob
That was the most boring crap i've ever read in my life. I don't know how good it was i fell asleep after the second word.. please leave those Moths in your head.

[wufong]

Originally posted by Deposable
Exploited or proof that is helps people with serious problems. Which is MY point. The pills that doctors give out like candy are more DANGEROUS then marijuana. I can't make my case anymore clear. When you get cancer, I hope you don't do any "dangerous drugs".

I was never comparing water & eggs, dumbass. I was saying... Scientists come up with different answers all the time. One study will have one answer, another study will prove it wrong. That happens all the time. And you, try to use that as logic ? Like you have a lab coat on as your typing this shit.
:rolleyes:

Do you even know what promoting means? I am defending it for people with health issues, smart guy. Before you "try" and have a logical debt you should goto http://dictionary.reference.com/
yeah right marajuana doesn't cause any mental health issues :rolleyes: . It does how ever provide me with good a laugh though, when i see people i knew at school who had a bright future, laying in the gutter with shit and piss all over them after another night on reffer and beer. or the ones who are now so paranoid none of their old friends will have nothing to do with them. I look at them and have a little giggle to myself thinking you fucking idiot.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by wufong
That was the most boring crap i've ever read in my life. I don't know how good it was i fell asleep after the second word.. please leave those Moths in your head.

I guess you haven't read the Bible yet.. what a waste of time

[wufong]

Originally posted by Deposable


You CAN'T get AIDS from Salvia
no but you can get hep B.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by wufong
when i see people i knew at school who had a bright future, laying in the gutter with shit and piss all over them after another night on reffer and beer.

Geez, I wonder if it was the Beer or the marijuana that caused that :rolleyes:

[wufong]

Both. marajuana is whats them so brain dead they just don't care

[Deposable]

Originally posted by wufong
Both. marajuana is whats them so brain dead they just don't care

LOL, your right! I see so many stoners lying in the gutter all the time. Because they are so brain dead.

I know a huge nation that doesn't smoke weed and is brain dead.