Joker Suggestions

[The_Return]

Well, after seeing Batman Begins a little over a week ago, Im psyched to see the next in the series, which is being planned.

That said, I, along with many other Bat-fans, am hoping that the next villan will be the Joker. Which bring us to the topic- Who would you like to see play the Joker?

Personally, Im rooting for one of 3:

1)Mark Hammil- Anyone who hasnt seen the Batman animated series must think Im insane. But he has the voiice NAILED, and I can definatly picture him pulling off the costume/makeup/manerisims aswell.

2)Crispin Glover- Who can say he wouldnt be great at Joker? He seems like a friggin madman in everything. He also looks that part. REALLY looks the part. Check out this image I found. I dont know the story behind it...Photoshop?
http://img74.echo.cx/img74/4343/gloverjoker1jm.jpg
Just try to tell me he doesnt look amazing.


3) An unknown. As awesome as I think either of my other sggestions would be, I think that somewhere out there there's likely someone twice as perfect,.


Any thoughts?

[Shade]

I thought they ended with the joker because that goes right into the first Batman movie. >.>;;...that was a lousy Joker though...wouldn't hurt to have another I guess. They also can't seem to decide who kills Bruce's parents in the movies can they?

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Shade
I thought they ended with the joker because that goes right into the first Batman movie. >.>;;...that was a lousy Joker though...wouldn't hurt to have another I guess. They also can't seem to decide who kills Bruce's parents in the movies can they?

Ah, another who is unaware of the story of Batman Begins

Batman Begins is completle seperate from the other 4 movies. The original 4 werent very faithful to the comics, so Christopher Nolan decided to start the series over himself. So, in this series, it is most definatly Joe Chill that killed Bruce's parents.

Not trying to be an asshole [sorry if it came out that way]

[Angra]

Isn´t there a thread in the "upcomming horror movies" forum about same subject??:rolleyes:

[Shade]

I hadn't heard much about the movie other than what I'd seen on television. I'm glad there will be more movies though ^-^. I was a Catwoman fan when I was little. I have all of her comics from way back when. Well the first series anyway. I remember getting angry with the series when I was ten and moving on to the dark side of comics...manga...>.>;;. Still haven't escaped that one. I just hope this guy does more justice to Catwoman than that damn Hally Berry movie >.<. I did love Batman Returns though. Then there's Robin. I was a Robin fan too ::Sigh:: Everyone loves Dick. Why doesn't he just call himself Richard? I mean it would be...okay...now I'm rambling.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Angra
Isn´t there a thread in the "upcomming horror movies" forum about same subject??:rolleyes:

If there is, I couldnt find it

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Shade
I hadn't heard much about the movie other than what I'd seen on television. I'm glad there will be more movies though ^-^. I was a Catwoman fan when I was little. I have all of her comics from way back when. Well the first series anyway. I remember getting angry with the series when I was ten and moving on to the dark side of comics...manga...>.>;;. Still haven't escaped that one. I just hope this guy does more justice to Catwoman than that damn Hally Berry movie >.<. I did love Batman Returns though. Then there's Robin. I was a Robin fan too ::Sigh:: Everyone loves Dick. Why doesn't he just call himself Richard? I mean it would be...okay...now I'm rambling.

For this new series, I sincerely hope that both Catwoman and Robin are left out. I am definatly not a fan of either...I guess if they handled it right it could be OK. Well....Catwoman could be ok. I think Robin is beyond salvation...

[Shade]

We need the boy wonder! So there damnit. I don't know why. There just needs to be a Robin. I love side kicks...so underated...And Catwoman is Batman's girl. I mean come on. You gotta have Catwoman...plus it appeals to a wider male audience...Yeah -.- I know the obvious.

[jay o2 waster]

joker should be hank from hell... case closed!

[AUSTIN316426808]

Thomas Hayen Church(playing new villian in Spiderman so might be impossible)

Ben Foster(might be to young)





p.s.
I hope they keep Robin and Catwoman OUT

And to whoever said ''that was a lousy joker'', are you fucking kiddin? What was wrong with him? (If I'm coming off like an asshole I'm not trying to be just asking)

[Shade]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Thomas Hayen Church(playing new villian in Spiderman so might be impossible)

Ben Foster(might be to young)





p.s.
I hope they keep Robin and Catwoman OUT

And to whoever said ''that was a lousy joker'', are you fucking kiddin? What was wrong with him? (If I'm coming off like an asshole I'm not trying to be just asking)

I said it Jack Nicholson didn't look like Joker to me or act much like him. Just my opinion. I think a better casting job could be done if they redo it.

[ItsAlive75]

No Robin, the new series is too dark for him to be portrayed in any seriousness. He was better off in the Joel Schumacher movies.

I'd also say leave Catwoman out, she was a bit silly too. The Joker would work because there was a lot of madness in his humor, and if Batman Begins is any indication, the new movies seem to be centered around that.

But Crispin Glover would be an amazing Joker, he's seriously crazy in real life. Hammil was great in the cartoon, but he's a bit too old now.

[Shade]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
No Robin, the new series is too dark for him to be portrayed in any seriousness. He was better off in the Joel Schumacher movies.

I'd also say leave Catwoman out, she was a bit silly too. The Joker would work because there was a lot of madness in his humor, and if Batman Begins is any indication, the new movies seem to be centered around that.

But Crispin Glover would be an amazing Joker, he's seriously crazy in real life. Hammil was great in the cartoon, but he's a bit too old now.

And a Buddist cult trying to wipe out Gotham to restore balance to the world wasn't silly?

[Elvis_Christ]

Crispin Glover would be a good choice. My vote would be for Michael Keaton. Catwoman cold work if they don't fuck it up like the other attempts. The original Catwoman Julie Newmar
was fucking hot!

http://www.spiritone.com/~darren/graphics/julie12.jpg

Rewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwoooowww! :p

[jenna26]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
But Crispin Glover would be an amazing Joker, he's seriously crazy in real life.

Crispin Glover would be perfect. He is one of my favorite actors and I can really see him pulling this off.

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by jenna26
Crispin Glover would be perfect. He is one of my favorite actors and I can really see him pulling this off. Perhaps he could do his F13 4 dance

[The STE]

Isn´t there a thread in the "upcomming horror movies" forum about same subject??
yes



I think Nick Stahl
http://re2.mm-c1.yimg.com/image/1134900890

or Brad Renfrohttp://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/mgm/ghost_world/brad_renfro/ghostworld.jpg
should play the joker. They both have the look, Stahl can do comic book villain (as seen in Sin City) and can be an evil prick (as seen in Bully), and Renfro's kinda got the look, and he was pretty good as a budding evil prick in Apt Pupil. Plus, neither one are that well known.
Crispen Glover would go too weird with it. Yeah, he's seriously crazy in real life, but I don't think he's the right kind of crazy for the Joker

[bloodrayne]

I know this is gonna be a very unpopular idea...BUT...

John Leguizamo can do evil and funny pretty well......Spawn...:p

...I mean, if he could do THAT...

[jenna26]

Honestly, I don't think Renfro or Leguizamo are bad choices.....they both could work. I like Stahl, but he is inconsistent. I will reserve judgement until I see Sin City though.

I still think that Glover is the best choice of these by far.

[The STE]

since they're probably gonna want to go with a name, I'd say Jason Lee. Sans beard he looks about right, he's a hell of an actor, not so sure about being evil, but I wouldn't doubt he could pull it off. If they go with a name, I hope they pick him (if one considers him a 'name')

or (another possibly unpopular pick) what about Ryan Gosling?
http://www.oxygen.ie/cine/pics/believer.jpg
He looks about right, and was great in The Believer

[jenna26]

I don't know if he is a good choice for this particular role, but I do think Gosling is a fine actor. In fact, I think overall probably a better pick than Stahl.

Notice how I am criticizing or agreeing with other people's picks but not offering any of my own. Because I don't have a clue...lol.

[The STE]

I think my main problem with Glover would be that he wouldn't fit into it enough. I'd sit there thinking "Man, look at Crispen Glover play the Joker", whether he was doing a good job or not. They need to cast someone who you wouldn't even notice once you started watching. Take, for example, Gary Oldman. I knew he was Gordon. I'd known for a long time. But when I was watching the movie, I never once thought about Oldman. He was Gordon. Ditto for the most part with Bale as Batman. A little ways into the movie, I forgot all about Bale. I think the only person who didn't do that for me was Neeson. I don't think I'd get that with Glover.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by The STE
I think the only person who didn't do that for me was Neeson.

Same here. The whole time I was just thinking, "Wow, Neeson's being kind of a prick... Why's he being such a prick?"

[The_Return]

Originally posted by The STE
since they're probably gonna want to go with a name, I'd say Jason Lee. Sans beard he looks about right, he's a hell of an actor, not so sure about being evil, but I wouldn't doubt he could pull it off. If they go with a name, I hope they pick him (if one considers him a 'name')


Jason Lee would defnatly be a good pick....I could really see that.



And to whoever said Mark Hammil is too old now....I havnt actually SEEN him in anything since Star Wars, so I dont have a clue how he looks. But he can still nail the voice, he does the new cartoon, too. Besides, Nicholson wasnt that young when he did Joker, he was 52. If they started filming the new Batman next year, Hamill would be 55. Not that much difference.

PS- If the pic. of Mark Himill on IMDB is recent, he could definatly look the part...maybe not as good as Glover, but he could still pull it off, I think.

[jedicow]

either jason lee or seann william scott would be my choices.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

http://www.boxoffice.com/jpg/feb97/pest.jpg

I think John Leguizamo is an amazing actor when he has a serious role.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
http://www.boxoffice.com/jpg/feb97/pest.jpg

I think John Leguizamo is an amazing actor when he has a serious role.

I thought he was great in Summer of Sam and Executive Decision.

[AUSTIN316426808]

John Leguizamo and Sean William Scott are great choices but there is the point that STE made,

If Leguizamo was doing it you'd notice the hell out of him I don't think he's that good of a character actor. Oldman and Bale became their characters just like they did in The Professional,American Psycho,The Machinist,Dracula ect. ect.

On the other hand with Scott and Leguizamo they are fine actors but I don't think they can blend in and actually become the Joker, I personally know that I'd think to myself ''cool Stifler's playing the Joker''.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
John Leguizamo and Sean William Scott are great choices but there is the point that STE made,

If Leguizamo was doing it you'd notice the hell out of him I don't think he's that good of a character actor. Oldman and Bale became their characters just like they did in The Professional,American Psycho,The Machinist,Dracula ect. ect.

On the other hand with Scott and Leguizamo they are fine actors but I don't think they can blend in and actually become the Joker, I personally know that I'd think to myself ''cool Stifler's playing the Joker''.

Oh, I was never saying Leguizamo would be a good joker, I was just saying he's a great actor.

But Sean William Scott would be a terrible joker.

[bwind22]

I actually heard that Crispin Glover was under consideration fo the role. I think he'd be a perfect Joker. They can stop looking.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Have you guys sen that video of Crispin Glover completely out of his mind on Letterman?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Oh, I was never saying Leguizamo would be a good joker, I was just saying he's a great actor.

But Sean William Scott would be a terrible joker.



I was really just going by ability to look good in the make-up which I think he would, that's why I picked Thomas Hayden Church I think he'd look the part in full make-up.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Thomas Hayden Church I think he'd look the part in full make-up.

Is that the "That 70s Show" guy?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Is that the "That 70s Show" guy?



If you've seen the Sideways commercials he's the guy with his nose tapped.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
If you've seen the Sideways commercials he's the guy with his nose tapped.

Ahhh... the guy from Wings....

I only go by sitcoms, that's the way I tell people.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
John Leguizamo and Sean William Scott are great choices but there is the point that STE made,

If Leguizamo was doing it you'd notice the hell out of him I don't think he's that good of a character actor. Oldman and Bale became their characters just like they did in The Professional,American Psycho,The Machinist,Dracula ect. ect.

I get what you're saying...But, Leguizamo IS a comedian, and he can do the 'wicked face' thing...Plus...He already has the hair for it...hahaha


As for the 'noticing that it's him' part...I could barely even BELIEVE that it was Leguizamo in 'Spawn'...So...He just might be able to pull it off...


But...Maybe he'd make a better 'Riddler':)

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bloodrayne

As for the 'noticing that it's him' part...I could barely even BELIEVE that it was Leguizamo in 'Spawn'...So...He just might be able to pull it off...





I kinda suspect that that might be because he had on a body suit and full make-up which made him half bald and 200 pounds overwieght.

[jenna26]

Originally posted by bloodrayne

As for the 'noticing that it's him' part...I could barely even BELIEVE that it was Leguizamo in 'Spawn'...So...He just might be able to pull it off...


I didn't know it was him either. I saw that movie a sickening number of times before I realized it (I had an ex that really liked that movie, when we broke up I hid his copy of the movie....I bet he never found it....HA....a petty, completely meaningless revenge but it made me feel better at the time).

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I kinda suspect that that might be because he had on a body suit and full make-up which made him half bald and 200 pounds overwieght. LMAO...Hmm...ya think?



My point was..He'd also be pretty heavily 'made-up' for a Joker role...

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
LMAO...Hmm...ya think?



My point was..He'd also be pretty heavily 'made-up' for a Joker role...



I guess you're right, if you put full facial make-up and a bright suit on someone who's not really all that well known he could blend into a role.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I guess you're right, if you put full facial make-up and a bright suit on someone who's not really all that well known he could blend into a role. Ahh...But...Would he have the VOICE for it?...The voice he used in Spawn was different, and pretty good, so he MIGHT be able to do it...

BUT...I have always thought that Jack Nicholson has the best 'Joker' voice...

[ADOM]

I know Crisping Glover can pull it off, but I would really like to see Mark Hammil give it a run. He has given the character so much life over the past decade in the cartoons. (has he been doing it that long?) Funny thing is, he would probably have looked the part better if he had kept his original nose.

I also think he has been off the big screen long enough for him to blend into the part.

I for one took about half the movie to get used to Oldman as Gordon, but I once I did, I loved him in the role. I'm just so used to him being a badass.

[AUSTIN316426808]

It's been longer actually, Skywalker been doing since at least Mask of the Phantom '93. Could be longer but that's as far back as I remember it.

[The_Return]

His 1st "apearance" as Joker, accirding to IMDB, was in 1992, in the Batman episode entitled "Joker's Favor".:p

[Chainsaw Guy]

i think Johnny Depp should play the joker

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally posted by Chainsaw Guy
i think Johnny Depp should play the joker

Well you could say Johnny Depp should play everyone.

[Marroe]

Johnny Depp is a GREAT actor, but why would you wanna cover up that face?

[The STE]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Ahh...But...Would he have the VOICE for it?

Stahl's voice would be fanTASTIC

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally posted by Marroe
Johnny Depp is a GREAT actor, but why would you wanna cover up that face?

good question.

[Angra]

Originally posted by Marroe
Johnny Depp is a GREAT actor, but why would you wanna cover up that face?


Because he´s butt ugly. :D

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Maybe you should be the joker.

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Maybe you should be the joker. LMAO

[Angra]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Maybe you should be the joker.




Biiiiiiitch.......:rolleyes:

[Marroe]

Originally posted by Angra
Because he´s butt ugly. :D umm, I don't think you and I are talking about the same guy

[Angra]

Originally posted by Marroe
umm, I don't think you and I are talking about the same guy



Oh gees....... Take it as a personal insult, why don´t ya. ;)

[Marroe]

Originally posted by Angra
Oh gees....... Take it as a personal insult, why don´t ya. ;) :confused:

Just tryin to stand up for the hotness of the world

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Marroe

Just tryin to stand up for the hotness of the world

I'm glad SOMEONE is sticking up for us.:D

[Angra]

Originally posted by Marroe
:confused:

Just tryin to stand up for the hotness of the world



That´s just fucking great.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Angra
That´s just fucking great.

Shit, when did my dad send you a picture???

[AUSTIN316426808]

IMDB (http://imdb.com/poll/)




Sean Penn never even crossed my mind but I think he's got the look and you know he can be a mean sob that's for sure.


And as much as I hate to admit it Adrien Brody could definately pull off the look and he's a great actor.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
IMDB (http://imdb.com/poll/)




Sean Penn never even crossed my mind but I think he's got the look and you know he can be a mean sob that's for sure.


And as much as I hate to admit it Adrien Brody could definately pull off the look and he's a great actor.


I cant see Brody as the Joker...I just cant picture it.

But Penn, however, would probably be pretty good! Alan Cumming could be OK, too.

[Demon Seed]

I can't think of anybody better than Jack Nicholson

[JokerMONEY3000]

Originally posted by The_Return
Ah, another who is unaware of the story of Batman Begins

Batman Begins is completle seperate from the other 4 movies. The original 4 werent very faithful to the comics, so Christopher Nolan decided to start the series over himself. So, in this series, it is most definatly Joe Chill that killed Bruce's parents.

Not trying to be an asshole [sorry if it came out that way]

That's awesome. The orginal movies sucked. This is one series i think should be remade. Batman Begins was really good. It acutally had a story.

[DraculaInDallas]

Originally posted by The_Return
For this new series, I sincerely hope that both Catwoman and Robin are left out. I am definatly not a fan of either...I guess if they handled it right it could be OK. Well....Catwoman could be ok. I think Robin is beyond salvation...

My young friend, you are to young to remember the original Catwoman, Julie Newmar. She was a fucking hottie!!!!! :D
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[ItsAlive75]

Didn't Julie Newmar go crazy?

[DraculaInDallas]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Didn't Julie Newmar go crazy?

I thought I heard something about her but I'm not sure what it was :confused: She was HOT in her prime though :D

[DraculaInDallas]

I always thought my girl Ingrid Pitt :p would have made a great Catwoman in her prime also :D
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