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dixie

06-26-2005, 07:57 PM

Greetings to all:
My interest in alternate universe films and books started with my love for the Stephen King horror novels such where alternate universe are the background of the plot. Being from Mississippi I wanted to
create an alternate universe type horror
film or book that revolved around the Mississippi Slave Lords; being the most feared creature during slave times for there astounding strength and method.
Well, I've created an entire website where
I could expound and develop the characters at this page.

http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/alternateuniverse2/index.html

Well, now that I've done this I'd like to
make friends here and hear feedback
about the idea.

Enjoy the website and my writings and feel free if you are a writer to develop it into a script, novel or story.

Respectfully,
Samson Brooke IV

alkytrio666

06-26-2005, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by dixie
Greetings to all:
My interest in alternate universe films and books started with my love for the Stephen King horror novels such where alternate universe are the background of the plot. Being from Mississippi I wanted to
create an alternate universe type horror
film or book that revolved around the Mississippi Slave Lords; being the most feared creature during slave times for there astounding strength and method.
Well, I've created an entire website where
I could expound and develop the characters at this page.

http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/alternateuniverse2/index.html

Well, now that I've done this I'd like to
make friends here and hear feedback
about the idea.

Enjoy the website and my writings and feel free if you are a writer to develop it into a script, novel or story.

Respectfully,
Samson Brooke IV

Alternate universe? So anotherwards you like alien horror?:confused:

Anyway, I love Stephen King too. The only "alternate universe" books I've read of his are The Tommyknockers and Dreamcatcher, both of which I thoroughly enjoyed, especially Dreamcatcher.

Have you read War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells? Very good book.

dixie

06-26-2005, 08:16 PM

Yes, sir, I've most certainly read the
War of the Worlds and I look forward
to the new movie that shall be coming soon.

The Gunslinger by Stephen King has
alternate universe overtones which
I also found excellent. I recommend to everyone.

Let me know of any other alternate
universe horror read or seen film of;
as it is my special interest.

Respectfully,
Samson Brook IV

AUSTIN316426808

06-26-2005, 10:45 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dixie
[B] the Mississippi Slave Lords; being the most feared creature during slave times for there astounding strength and method.[QUOTE]

I thought they were just lazy assholes that didn't want to do their own work, there was nothing astounding about them besides their severe amount of cruelty. And as for the method, all they did was chain people up and beat 'em what's so astounding about that?

dixie

06-26-2005, 11:30 PM

"I thought they were just lazy assholes that didn't want to do their own work, there was nothing astounding about them besides their severe amount of cruelty. And as for the method, all they did was chain people up and beat 'em what's so astounding about that?"
----------------------
Dear Sir:
Here is more for you to read in hopes my essay would sway your attention in my favour:
http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/alternateuniverse2/ecolog.html

Well, your remark is a preconceived
conception without reading the horror
story. By not reading the link; and what
I was trying to impart in the plot and
characters you missed the point completely. The point was to offer an
interesting story from the unique legends of the Mississippi Slave Lords.
The character I've built in the story isn't
lazy at all; but a cross between two slave trader families giving him qualities that are of interest to the reader.

Remember, firstly that if you do not read what I have written about it; your remarks are without substance.

Second, if you decide not to read it;
and adhere to such breaches of logic;
by not seeing for yourself I must respectfully wonder how you can consider yourself civilized among those who desire to engage with me feedback and exchange that might improve various sections of the plot.

Now, either look over the links I've given you and find purity in the signature of
your self esteem as a Gentleman or
permit those who are interested to partake of the fine fruit of my unique insight, sir.

I dare say, sir, I must question your status as a Gentlemen by using such foul and uncivilized words as a reply to my sincere efforts.

Respectfully,
Samson Brooke IV

Elvis_Christ

06-26-2005, 11:33 PM

Sir? :rolleyes:

AUSTIN316426808

06-26-2005, 11:46 PM

I'm not a gentleman because I said a slave lord was an asshole?:rolleyes:

AUSTIN316426808

06-27-2005, 12:07 AM

I read up to about the third paragraph and stopped because it's moronic.

The character that you have created is not only a lazy asshole but is a nieve,arrogant,lazy asshole. He's a slave lord, nothing you can say is going to make me think any other way about a slave lord beside that they were assholes.

"No doubt, if I was black and the gift of my slave lord genetic inheritance existed; I would enslave weak whites who waste away their lives as social retards and are dangerous for the ecology of a civilization geared toward the evolutionary wave; as I do as a white."

that's sound like something Hitler would've said, the asshole that you created isn't any different from any other slave lord was in the sense that they were all trash. They didn't want to do the work nor did they want to have to pay anybody the proper amount to so they got slaves to it for them. With that being said I'm going back to my original statement that they were nothing but lazy,cruel assholes.

If you think I'm not a gentleman for saying a slave lord is an asshole then I really could careless, you don't actually think I care about the opinion of myself a person who's trying to make a slave master...oh excuse me lord look like anything more than what they were and should always be known as....lazy assholes.

Haunted

06-27-2005, 06:15 AM

I'm not a gentleman at all. I'm a graceful "lady with disgrace."

I think that slave owners of the old South should be looked down upon with shame. It also makes me sick to think that anyone could look on them as romantic heros or gentlemen. A true gentleman treats his fellow humans beings with dignity and respect.

The South has terrible criminal behaviour under it's belt. The atrocities committed went beyond anything that we had seen until the Nazi regime.

Now, I love the South, but I hate that it's history is steeped in the blood of African slaves. There's nothing romantic about that. There's nothing cool about that. It's a blight on our past not only as Southerners but as Americans as well.

Oh, and don't sign your name everytime you post. We know who you are.....unfortunately.

Shade

06-27-2005, 06:30 AM

As another offended lady I have to say the plot seems to be in poor taste. The truth of the matter is that the general public would only be angry if this was ever published. There's something that could be done with the plot in general but it would need to be a lot darker and more about the horrors of the times than a humorous account of a "romanticized" slave driver.

dixie

06-27-2005, 06:40 AM

Everyone's reaction is extremely emotional and in contradication to the slave lord that has been created as a fiction character. I am very pleased that it might be a best seller and one dandy of a horror movie.

Thanking everyone's reaction as proof of what a delightful venture in the imagination of horror it will be when completed.

Of course, I agree with everyone's opinion on the averse direction of the slave lord's tendency; and I hope to dream up even more wicked plots in the weeks to come.

By God, we'll make this character as
deadly than Hitler and as interesting
as any horror character.

Dracula and the Werewolves are fine;
but they must kindly step aside as I
present my evil villian, the Mississippi
Slave Lord.

Haunted

06-27-2005, 07:05 AM

As long as you demonize slavery, I don't care. Just don't go making it look romantic.

Characterization is important. Social commentary and subsequently, knowledge of the social machine is necessary for the reader to understand that you are not on sides with the slave master.

Research research research!

alkytrio666

06-27-2005, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by dixie
Everyone's reaction is extremely emotional and in contradication to the slave lord that has been created as a fiction character. I am very pleased that it might be a best seller and one dandy of a horror movie.

Thanking everyone's reaction as proof of what a delightful venture in the imagination of horror it will be when completed.

Of course, I agree with everyone's opinion on the averse direction of the slave lord's tendency; and I hope to dream up even more wicked plots in the weeks to come.

By God, we'll make this character as
deadly than Hitler and as interesting
as any horror character.

Dracula and the Werewolves are fine;
but they must kindly step aside as I
present my evil villian, the Mississippi
Slave Lord.

You're trying way too hard to sound like an author. Most of us are lazy people who just like to watch horror movies all day, we're not impressed by big words, or fancy signatures and greetings. We won't judge your story based on how you post, just post like yourself, not Mark Twain.

Sincerely,
Kevin Robert Nash

:D :D :D

dixie

06-27-2005, 07:44 AM

Dear Kevin Robert Nash

It was a pleasure to hear from you.
Mistaking me for the character I have
created is a pleasure that I did not anticipate.

As for my verbal formulation; it isn't
revelant to a discussion of the subject matter at hand. I am born and bred
in Mississippi; so being annoyed by my
use of the English language as resembling Mark Twain simply has no bearing upon the issue of the discussion.

As for the character of a Slave Lord in
Mississippi; I rather consider it to be a
compliment that reaction should be so
emotional.

This is, horror.com; where we enjoy the
horror concept; and I know that we both
are like blood in this sense that a good story or movie of horror must really stir people.

Thank you again for your comments; and they are most certainly well received.

Cordially,
Samson

urgeok

06-27-2005, 07:55 AM

someone talking like colonel saunders and calling himself dixie.

this is a joke right ?

i sure hope so.

and - slave owners as demons ?
been done before.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070295/

newb

06-27-2005, 08:01 AM

Slave owners as demons.....yup...its been done before.

http://www.jfk-fr.com/images/dvd/B0000214GJ.jpg

filmmaker2

06-27-2005, 08:07 AM

Funny you should mention that film; I never saw it, but Manly Wade Wellman is a favorite horror writer of mine.

urgeok

06-27-2005, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Funny you should mention that film; I never saw it, but Manly Wade Wellman is a favorite horror writer of mine.

its a guilty pleasure of mine ..

i have it on laser - if you're interested i can burn a copy to DVD for you - as soon as i'm finished with Newb's stuff.

PM me if you're interested ..

Haunted

06-27-2005, 08:58 AM

Well, to demonize a character isn't necessarily to make that character an actual demon. It just means that you expose the darkness in that character for what it is. Also, you have to show that the author is not on the same side as the character. It's basically typecasting a character and making him or her evil.

Oh, and Samson, stop with the "cordial Southerner" posts. It's irritating. I'm a writer as well as Vodstok and many others, and we don't post like. It's silly, and it makes you look like a fag.

(If you're gay and post on this forum, please forgive my usage of that word).

meetthecreeper

06-27-2005, 09:08 AM

I only have one thing to say to yet ANOTHER horses ass that comes here to pimp their own shit.

FUCK OFF

I have been here for a LONG time and have been writing a book as well as several stories and not once have I ever pimped my own shit.

ASSHEAD

filmmaker2

06-27-2005, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by dixie

Remember, firstly that if you do not read what I have written about it; your remarks are without substance.

Second, if you decide not to read it;
and adhere to such breaches of logic;
by not seeing for yourself I must respectfully wonder how you can consider yourself civilized among those who desire to engage with me feedback and exchange that might improve various sections of the plot.

Now, either look over the links I've given you and find purity in the signature of
your self esteem as a Gentleman or
permit those who are interested to partake of the fine fruit of my unique insight, sir.

I dare say, sir, I must question your status as a Gentlemen by using such foul and uncivilized words as a reply to my sincere efforts.

Respectfully,
Samson Brooke IV

Wow.

dixie

06-27-2005, 10:56 AM

Greetings:
I would like to thank the lady from Georgia
for telling me how offensive and nasty it would be to bring romance into my story of the Mississippi Slave Lord. I agree completely and I have added an essay called "The romance of slavery", to enhance the evil and wickedness of my horror villian.

http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/alternateuniverse2/romance.html

Any further suggestions on how to make my horror villian even more wicked would be appreciated and I am enjoying the interest and emotion I'm creating in this unique, never before covered theme of horror.

Thank you,
Samson

barbra

06-27-2005, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by urgeok

and - slave owners as demons ?
been done before.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070295/

Originally posted by dixie
Greetings:
I'm creating in this unique, never before covered theme of horror.

Thank you,
Samson do you just pretend not to notice?

meetthecreeper

06-27-2005, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by dixie
Greetings:
I would like to thank the lady from Georgia
for telling me how offensive and nasty it would be to bring romance into my story of the Mississippi Slave Lord. I agree completely and I have added an essay called "The romance of slavery", to enhance the evil and wickedness of my horror villian.

http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/alternateuniverse2/romance.html

Any further suggestions on how to make my horror villian even more wicked would be appreciated and I am enjoying the interest and emotion I'm creating in this unique, never before covered theme of horror.

Thank you,
Samson

I have a suggestion, go fuck yourself with a blender.

Hows that for interest and emotion??

slasherman

06-27-2005, 12:27 PM

where is MisterSadistro when we need him ?

filmmaker2

06-27-2005, 12:59 PM

Thanks for the offer, Urge, but I know someone that has this, I just have to get around to watching it. It is loved my many fans of oddball films, I understand.

AUSTIN316426808

06-27-2005, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by dixie

Dracula and the Werewolves are fine;
but they must kindly step aside as I
present my evil villian, the Mississippi
Slave Lord.

Dracula has to step down for you and some unoriginal retard you made up?

who the fuck are you:rolleyes:

AUSTIN316426808

06-27-2005, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by dixie
Greetings:
I would like to thank the lady from Georgia
for telling me how offensive and nasty it would be to bring romance into my story of the Mississippi Slave Lord. I agree completely and I have added an essay called "The romance of slavery", to enhance the evil and wickedness of my horror villian.

You do realize that people saying something you did is nasty and offensive isn't a compliment, that is unless you're one of those talentless idiots that just make a film/book as controversial as possible just to get noticed.

If that is the case which it looks like it is then it's sad, trust me I'm not saying that you have any but why don't you use what you think is talent to make something that'll be noticed because it's good and not just because it's offensive and it'll be noticed for being controversial.

Sincerely,
Someone who hopes you fall off a cliff.

ItsAlive75

06-27-2005, 08:03 PM

Originally posted by dixie
Everyone's reaction is extremely emotional and in contradication to the slave lord that has been created as a fiction character. I am very pleased that it might be a best seller and one dandy of a horror movie.

Thanking everyone's reaction as proof of what a delightful venture in the imagination of horror it will be when completed.

Of course, I agree with everyone's opinion on the averse direction of the slave lord's tendency; and I hope to dream up even more wicked plots in the weeks to come.

By God, we'll make this character as
deadly than Hitler and as interesting
as any horror character.

Dracula and the Werewolves are fine;
but they must kindly step aside as I
present my evil villian, the Mississippi
Slave Lord.

Hi my name is Dixie and I write in prose poetry
and elevated, eloquent speech which makes it
seem as though my intellect is that above
the rest of you. Now let's all read my story
entitled "Aren't Slaveowners Awesome?"

filmmaker2

06-27-2005, 08:12 PM

Everyone listen up: This thread is now going to be used for GUM CARD and BRONZE-AGE COMIC BOOK TRADING AND DISCUSSION. So spread the word to everyone! BRING YOUR GUM CARDS AND COMIC BOOKS TO THIS THREAD--thank you--

ItsAlive75

06-27-2005, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Everyone listen up: This thread is now going to be used for GUM CARD and BRONZE-AGE COMIC BOOK TRADING AND DISCUSSION. So spread the word to everyone! BRING YOUR GUM CARDS AND COMIC BOOKS TO THIS THREAD--thank you--

Yeah, I had to get one in before this thread died...

urgeok

06-28-2005, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Hi my name is Dixie and I write in prose poetry
and elevated, eloquent speech which makes it
seem as though my intellect is that above
the rest of you. Now let's all read my story
entitled "Aren't Slaveowners Awesome?"

calling it elequent is being pretty generous.

newb

06-28-2005, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Everyone listen up: This thread is now going to be used for GUM CARD and BRONZE-AGE COMIC BOOK TRADING AND DISCUSSION. So spread the word to everyone! BRING YOUR GUM CARDS AND COMIC BOOKS TO THIS THREAD--thank you--

Cool....here's my Partridge Family cards.

http://www.shirleyjones.com/Archive/cards1.jpg

newb

06-28-2005, 08:31 AM

http://www.mayberry.com/interactive/BarnsTradingCards/cards041-060/card055.JPG

newb

06-28-2005, 08:32 AM

http://www.legendlore.com/dart/munsters/mun_30a.jpg

newb

06-28-2005, 08:33 AM

http://www.non-sports.com/Metalic-alic.jpg

ItsAlive75

06-28-2005, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by urgeok
calling it elequent is being pretty generous.

Yeah, but I'm a generous guy.:D

urgeok

06-28-2005, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by newb
Cool....here's my Partridge Family cards.

i always wanted to bang the partridge family mom - like nobodys business.

bloodrayne

06-28-2005, 10:22 AM

In all honesty...If you're truly serious about this...I believe it's gonna fail...This is why:

1) It shouldn't be considered a 'horror' movie...The evils of slave owners have already been WELL expressed in the movie 'Roots'...There was also an EXCELLENT movie on this subject that was called 'Good Night...something'...Well, I forgot the name of it, but it was awesome...I used it as a teaching tool to teach my daughter about slavery

2) You have presented this to horror fans (here) and it doesn't seem to be 'very well received'

3) This would be similar to creating something about what Hitler did, and calling it a 'horror' movie...It's true that it IS 'horrifying' BUT, it isn't 'entertaining', it's simply history...Hitler could never be viewed along the same lines as Freddy, Jason, Michael, vampires, werewolves, monsters, etcetera...And I don't believe that YOUR character could/would ever be seen that way either

4) This would potentially be considered more of a 'documentary'...In my opinion...

5) What would your 'fan base' truly be?...What is your 'target audience'?...Not horror buffs, obviously...Historians perhaps?

6) While you seem impressed and encouraged with the idea that your story is 'stirring emotion'...It is true that a good film will often cause people to feel and to think...HOWEVER...If it causes people to 'feel' pissed off, and makes people 'think' that you're coming off as a racist, glorifying slave "lords", and quite possibly that you must be an idiot......Wellllllll...That's probably NOT a good thing...

This is one project that I simply could not stand behind...Sorry...