Asian Horror Movies Remade Into American Films

[Shade]

Anyone as sick as I am of American remakes of old of foreign horror films? Can we not think of a decent plot for ourselves -.-. If I see another Japanese horror cinema rip off I'll scream. Don't get me wrong, some of the remakes are good...but have we no pride...?

[urgeok]

the beverly hillbillies, starsky and hutch, the flinstones, the dukes of hazard, ... oh shit i could go on for hours .....

these films are made or are being made and you're upset about american film versions of japanese horror movies ..

of course there is no pride in the US popular film industry .. just big $$$ in the eyes.

by the way .. its not like its a new tradition .. foreign films have been a source of inspiration for as long as i can remember ...
So now the horror films are being mined ..

oh well, how else are the lowest common denominator sad sacks going to get exposure to the foreign films anyway when they wont watch anything with subtitles - let alone letterboxed or black and white.

[zwoti]

guess you're looking forward to the "dark water" remake then......

[urgeok]

no, i'm waiting for Troublesome Night 1 through 47 to be remade :)


actually i do have Dark Water but havent been able to see it yet ..
is it really getting the USA treatment ?

how about The Eye or The Occupant

[The_Return]

Originally posted by urgeok

how about The Eye

It damn well better not!!!

Only Jap. movie Ive seen, and I gauntee it would be totally ruined



Btw.... Beverly Hillbilies? Ive heared of/seen the others....but not this...this...Sacrilage!!!

[Shade]

When I mean remakes I mean everything, old and or foreign movies and shows included. It all pisses me off. And last I heard Tom Cruise's production company or whoever the hell works over or under him bought the rights to the Eye. As for Dark Water...-.-...please say it ain't so T-T.

[urgeok]

in many cases i dont feel too bad about it ..
I usually know when its a horror ... we usually ferret out horrors from all over the world because we dont have much to pick from compared to the other genres.

What i like about remakes as far as drama, etc goes is that once i find out its a remake i usually hunt down the origional .. a film i otherwise may have not known existed.

[feral cat]

Originally posted by The_Return
It damn well better not!!!

Only Jap. movie Ive seen, and I gauntee it would be totally ruined
... I take it you have seen no Jap movies then as The Eye is not a Japanese movie!

Tom Cruises Production Company holds the rights to The Eye.

Dark water has already been remade and should be released in 2005

Dark Water Remake (http://www.shadowfaxmedia.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1098)

[Shade]

When they remake Ichi the Killer I'm gonna take a cue from Boiling Point and driving a tanker into the production company. You can take away my Ring, you can ruin my Dark Water, but you can never take my Takashi Miike!...at least I hope they can't...

[feral cat]

Miike would most probably not transfer well at all ... I was watching Gozu just the other day, great movie, Visitor Q is still my favourite though!

[Death By Jell-O]

There seems to be a shortage of good Horror movies since the 70's and early 80's.....Think about it....How many sequels are there? Sure, there's something to be said about taking a good idea and running with it, but there comes a point where it's time for something new.......

[wufong]

the reason you don't see many new ideas is because the producers wont see anyone unless they have been through some sort of film/film production school. where they are pumped so full of the same old ideas and formulas that all original thought that they once had is totaly squashed. sure its important for these people to get educated about the film industry. but there are so many schools an so many people trying to get into these schools that they have turned into nothing more than a money making production line. where some failed hack pumps their student heads full of his ideas of what a good movie is about.

[The STE]

Ichi the Killer wouldn't translate. Period. Not saying it wouldn't translate well, it would not translate at all. Even the name wouldn't work.
A lot of Miike just wouldn't work. Audition wouldn't work because one of the biggest things was the contrast in the girl between the first 90-ish minutes and the last 30. The girl would NOT be that meek if the movie were American. The movie would pretty much fall apart. Hippie censorship groups aside, Visitor Q MIGHT could work, but it would be toned down anyways, and then the point of the movie is gone.

So no. Miike won't be remade, mostly because most of his stuff can't be remade.

[GorePhobia]

i have some sweet ideas for movies but havent been to a film school YET.....August baby i hope to get on that shit lol

[gren]

just dont forget us little people ;) esp ME!! :D lol

[GorePhobia]

trust me baby as soon as i get to Cali we are going out to eat lol....and BTW thanks for not answering last night I told you i'd call back

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by Shade
When they remake Ichi the Killer I'm gonna take a cue from Boiling Point and driving a tanker into the production company. You can take away my Ring, you can ruin my Dark Water, but you can never take my Takashi Miike!...at least I hope they can't...
Have nt you heard about the american remake of Takashi miikes AUDITION? At the end of the film they fall in love & live happily ever after.

[ichi the killer]

Following on from what SHADE started. Is it any different now to what it was like in the 80's. There were some great films made in the 80's in Italy & America but the ideas soon ran dry & all we got were slasher films & a lot of poor zombie & cannibal films ( hell of the living dead/ zombie creeping flesh anyone?)
Anyway WORST REMAKE: it's not horror but the film was fucking horrible.
SYLVESTER STALLONE in GET CARTER.
Just loved that happy ending guys.

[urgeok]

i did like to see Mickey Rourke getting work though ..

i thought (speaking of michael caine) that The italian Job remake was a piece of shit too

[Shade]

An Audition remake? Agh. I honestly hope you're wrong though I'm afraid you might not be -.-. If you're going to make a remake at least give do the original story justice and follow the story. Don't try to make the movie better only to come up short instead.

[gren]

Originally posted by GorePhobia
trust me baby as soon as i get to Cali we are going out to eat lol....and BTW thanks for not answering last night I told you i'd call back

shut up. i was doing somethin.. or something?

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by Shade
Anyone as sick as I am of American remakes of old of foreign horror films? Can we not think of a decent plot for ourselves -.-. If I see another Japanese horror cinema rip off I'll scream. Don't get me wrong, some of the remakes are good...but have we no pride...? i tend to ignore what i don't like, it is an effective tactic

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
i tend to ignore what i don't like, it is an effective tactic
But, whining is easier :D

hey, if my shit ever gets published or made into movies, you will see a ton of original shit.


Okay, well, Father Dillon's Funeral was a NOTLD remake, btu cmon, every horror author has to do at least 1 zombie survival story.

[urgeok]

there arent enough zombie survival movies !
I'd like to see one come out a week.
of course I'd have to build another wall unit in the house somewhere ...

[Vodstok]

I'll get to work. :D

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by urgeok
there arent enough zombie survival movies !
I'd like to see one come out a week.
of course I'd have to build another wall unit in the house somewhere ...
I love zombie movies but do we need another House of the dead or that resident evil shite?

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by Shade
An Audition remake? Agh. I honestly hope you're wrong though I'm afraid you might not be -.-. If you're going to make a remake at least give do the original story justice and follow the story. Don't try to make the movie better only to come up short instead.
Saw it on the net. It 's going to star Brad pitt & Catherine Zeta Jones, but this time they just fall in love & live happily ever after. ( the dog still gets fucked though )

[urgeok]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
I love zombie movies but do we need another House of the dead or that resident evil shite?


well, i guess its me but i refuse to consider either of those vile mounds of puke to be zombie movies.

I was hoping for films from people who love the genre, not the ones who draw inspiration from video games ... and dumb down their films to appeal to the little basement dwellers that play them 18 hours a day ...

God dont get me started on House of the Dead .. shit ! piss !

[ichi the killer]

Unfortunately i actually bought it. Any one want a copy?

[Vodstok]

RE (the first) wasnt TOO terrible.... It is a guilty pleasure of mine... But it could be so much better.


I derive a great deal of inspiration from video games, but i have some talent and insight to back it up. Read what i have so far of Gloom (http://scaredyet.net/gloom), it was inspired by Quake, with some Doom in there.

[zwoti]

one day i'll watch it....just not in a rush

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
RE (the first) wasnt TOO terrible.... It is a guilty pleasure of mine... But it could be so much better.


I derive a great deal of inspiration from video games, but i have some talent and insight to back it up. Read what i have so far of Gloom (http://scaredyet.net/gloom), it was inspired by Quake, with some Doom in there.

I will admit .. the 1st RE wasnt as bad as the 2nd...

But dont video games draw their inspiration from movies ?

[Vodstok]

It's a vicious cycle. You can tell which ones inspire which ones.

[ichi the killer]

Originally posted by urgeok
I will admit .. the 1st RE wasnt as bad as the 2nd...

But dont video games draw their inspiration from movies ?
I hated the fact that there was so little gore in both films, Milla jolovich kick boxing zombies, no bite scenes either i admit you don t need gore to make a good film but in a zombie film the glop should run in rivers

[Vodstok]

I have never played any of the RE games, but i have seen enough that the major disappointment in the first movie was that it had zombies, zombie dogs, and the licker, that is it. If you are going to make a movie out of a video game, use more than 2% of the monsters.....

[urgeok]

Originally posted by ichi the killer
I hated the fact that there was so little gore in both films, Milla jolovich kick boxing zombies, no bite scenes either i admit you don t need gore to make a good film but in a zombie film the glop should run in rivers

i couldnt agree more.

[Shade]

I have to give the RE movies credit. I like them more than the games. The games fail to keep my attention >.>;;. Now Silent Hill on the other hand...not hoping it will become a movie...but should it become a bad one I might have something to bitch about then.

[Heretic_Ideals]

hmmm silent hill scared the piss out of me it was just creepy

[dio]

What's your opinion on asian horror? And Hollywood remake's?
I prefere the original

[ChEEbA]

I think you're gonna get largely the same response across the board here, man...most people are very much behind the originals...I assume you're referring mainly about the "ghost" kinda films that have been under remake mania, as opposed to all kinds of asian horror, so, lets talk about how I feel about those thus far.

The ring for example...a lot of people actually liked the US remake...but when compared, I found that while the USA version had more mood enducing music, and gorier effects...the "silence" of the original, the minimalist use of "gore" by comparison (eg - the bodies just looked more terrified than fucked up) worked to excellent effect for me. The asian version felt more tense all the way through, not to mention, explained the story a lot better.
I haven't seen the original ju-on myself, but apart from some interesting effects, and the fact that it got quite good about 5 minutes before it just ended....I didn't think all that much good about....but, I cannot speak comparatively in this case, so I'll leave it alone.
I think the US film makers rely on different methods to establish atmosphere...and, unfortunately when remaking these asian films, they have not really thus far captured what's made them the weird-out unnerving creepfests that they are.
Closest I've EVER seen to the "feel" of an asian horror would be Lynch's Eraserhead...maybe he should work on one of these remakes, eh?

I don't hate US remakes or anything...however, I've yet to find one that has outdone it's asian predecessor.
Dark water looks promising, however, I've not seen the original.

While talking asian films, here's a few I like -
Uzumaki
Battle Royale
Mister Vampire
Tales of the unusual
Versus
The Returner
...Not all horror, but all worth checking out if you've not yet.

Oh yeah, hi, welcome...all that shit.

[ItsAlive75]

Cheeba touched on it, but remaking asian horror is hard because you're basically remaking a culture. It's hard to remake the feel of those movies because they're made in accordance to the ideals of that culture. Ju-On deals with the problems with family and the definition of "home" in Japanese culture. In comparison, "The Grudge" is about ghosts.

American audiences don't rely on that as much, most US audiences just want scares to jump out and punch us in the face. That's why its always weird to transfer... except The Ring (I felt) made a great transition to American audiences.

[dio]

Goog answers! I see we agree on many things. By the way, thanks for the warm welcome

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by dio
Goog answers! I see we agree on many things. By the way, thanks for the warm welcome

It's "good", not "goog" you jerkoff.

Everyone hates you and they talk ill-will about you behind your back.

:D

[TheOmen]

A Tale Of Two Sisters leads the pack for me. Give it a whirl.

And I'm against any remakes, no matter where they're from....

[WaitxUntilxDark]

let's just hope they don't mess with Audition. You know they would tone down the last 15 minutes.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by WaitxUntilxDark
let's just hope they don't mess with Audition. You know they would tone down the last 15 minutes. No way...Not in THIS day and age..if ANYTHING...they'd catch up the REST of the movie to go along with the last 15 minutes, which in my opinion, was the best part of the entire movie...Well, that thing in the bag was pretty cool, too ;)

[bloodrayne]

OOH...And I just noticed that the picture you posted would make a great avatar...Especially since the ones that are available on this site are TERRIBLY played out...

So...If ya want it...This will fit:

[WaitxUntilxDark]

wtf that wouldn't be better. if they did that you wouldn't have the shock of the nice girl suddenly showing her true form. the rest of the film might be a little boring but that's what makes it a brilliant film.

[bloodrayne]

LMAO...Looks like you were one step ahead of me ;)

[WaitxUntilxDark]

thx for the pic i like it better than my version because this way she's pointing to the message :)

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by WaitxUntilxDark
wtf that wouldn't be better. if they did that you wouldn't have the shock of the nice girl suddenly showing her true form. the rest of the film might be a little boring but that's what makes it a brilliant film. No No...I didn't mean about HER specifically...I meant the whole film in general...Liven it up a little bit...Make more things happen...Add a few suspicions that make you wonder about her a little BEFORE the end...Well, we actually do get ideas along the way...Just give it a little more life (so that people like me don't start falling asleep in the middle of it)...:)

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by WaitxUntilxDark
thx for the pic i like it better than my version because this way she's pointing to the message :) Heh...That was exactly why I flipped it...It's cool that you picked up on that :cool:

[WaitxUntilxDark]

oh yah i understand. it took me two days to watch it. i only heard of it through bravo's 100 scariest movie moments (it got numer 11, but it should have got the number two moment just behind ,my name.) so i recorded from sundance film channel(i got it from ebay, but it came from a girl in hong kong so i couldn't watch it because of the region difference.) and i started watching at night for effect. But i waited forever and just decided to go to sleep since i got bored so i see what you mean. oh yeah and if you recomend it to anyone make sure they don't skip to the torture scene because it did that and it didn't get scared then i watched the whole thing and i had to close my eyes at parts that i originally yawned at.
A few good horror sites.
http://www.bravotv.com/The_100_Scariest_Movie_Moments/
http://www.retrocrush.com/scary/
www.houseofhorrors.com

[WaitxUntilxDark]

are you still there?

[WaitxUntilxDark]

umm....you've already said that

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by WaitxUntilxDark
umm....you've already said that Dammit...This stupid slow comp is causing double posts...I'll fix it...

[WaitxUntilxDark]

ohh ok for i thought i smelled to many permanent markers for a minute there
won't you take me to funky town

[zwoti]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Dammit...This stupid slow comp is causing double posts...I'll fix it...

get a faster one

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by WaitxUntilxDark
oh yah i understand. it took me two days to watch it. i only heard of it through bravo's 100 scariest movie moments (it got numer 11, but it should have got the number two moment just behind ,my name.) so i recorded from sundance film channel(i got it from ebay, but it came from a girl in hong kong so i couldn't watch it because of the region difference.) and i started watching at night for effect. But i waited forever and just decided to go to sleep since i got bored so i see what you mean. oh yeah and if you recomend it to anyone make sure they don't skip to the torture scene because it did that and it didn't get scared then i watched the whole thing and i had to close my eyes at parts that i originally yawned at.
A few good horror sites.
http://www.bravotv.com/The_100_Scariest_Movie_Moments/
http://www.retrocrush.com/scary/
www.houseofhorrors.com Recommend it?..haha...I actually gave mine away to one of the members here at this forum...It was just too slow for me...

It was really nice 'meeting' you...I must say that you seem very mature for your age, and you should make a fine addition to this forum...As long as you can 'take the heat'...These guys get a little psycho sometimes, but it's all in fun...usually..heh

I gotta go make dinner for my Sweetie now...I'll catch ya later:)

[WaitxUntilxDark]

have fun with your whore. just kidding :)

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by zwoti
get a faster one Wouldn't do any good...This one WAS a faster one...But, Seri keeps filling it full of crap...She'd do the same thing with a new one...I just gotta deal with it...OR...Maybe I could just get a new Seri :D

[WaitxUntilxDark]

well that rminds me
Elen Degeneres was talking about how people say bad things then say just kidding like it erases it.she said that "when someone says that she says oh really then your not very good at kidding because we should both be laughing."
haha i scare little kids.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by WaitxUntilxDark
have fun with your whore. just kidding :) Just kidding, huh?...Well...Actually...He IS a whore...But, only MY whore...So...You pretty much had it right :D :p



OH...But now I REALLY gotta go...



Later

[WaitxUntilxDark]

i know it's slow but i would never trade it because it is the only movie that makes me scared as if i was 5 years old. i haven't seen a movie that has done that to me. that doesn't mean i haven't been scared. the scene from wait until dark had me jumping 5 feet in the air. my friend shemica had to cover her mouth because she had just drank pop and the scene happened and the pop came out of her mouth. oh and two scarey video games that genuinly scared me were Resident Evil 4 and Clock Tower 3. The problem with clocktower 3 was it got repetitve fast and having to collect items while being chased was too hard.

[WaitxUntilxDark]

watch these they're very funny.
http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html

[ChEEbA]

The problem with clocktower 3 was it got repetitve fast and having to collect items while being chased was too hard.
Yeah, that's the part where youve gotta not SUCK at games...
!BURN!

[WaitxUntilxDark]

i do agree about adding a little more to keep interest but i don't think they should add to much because then you would be used to the scares and by the time the ending happened you would be like "so what" but yes they should have added maybe a few dream sequences of foreshadowing or a jump scene or two just to add something to keep your attention but other than that it's still a brilliant film.

[WaitxUntilxDark]

oh you biotch. i don't suck at games i would wup your ass at halo 2.

[WaitxUntilxDark]

since few people are posting messages on my thread i mention them here. my scariest moments are:
ok now to save this thread you can say your top ten scariest moments or scariest movies.
My scariest movies are:
1. Audition
2. Wait Until Dark
3. Texas Chainsaw massacre
4. The Shining
5. Psycho
6. Misery
7. Cujo
8. When a Stranger Calls
9. Suspiria
10. Halloween

and my moments are:
1: Wait Until Dark: When the movie is almost over and audery hepburn has stabbed alan arkin an can't open the door so she mutters "the window" so you think she's safe and the movie is about to be over, then out of nowhere alan arkin jumps out from a darkened room and leaps onto her. i went six feet in the air and my friend shemica covered her mouth as she spat out pop.

2: Audition: the reason it's lower this time is because it doesn't have a certain scene that's scarier than wait until dark but the whole movie is scarier. The scene i would pick is her vomiting into a bowl and feeding in to the guy she has dismembered.

3: Carrie: i wasn't scared but, only because i listened to the comentary of another movie mention it. but from what i have heard i am putting it here.

4: Misery: she F#!%ing hit his foot with that hammer.

5: The shining: The "here's johhny" moment but only because shelly duvall portrayed fear that transended to the viewer.

6: Cujo: When cujo jumps on the screen on the opposite side you think he will. you think he'll go for the mother but he goes for the window.

7: When a Stranger Calls: When the police say "jill we've traced the call... it's coming from the upstairs phone, we need you to get out of the house as soon as possible." my eyes got as big as carrie's and i had to hold myself as she tried to get across the house unnoticed.

8: Halloween: i want to say two for this one. The moment at the end where you think everything is alright then you see him get straight up. it wouldn't be nearly as scary if he had his back a little arched, the fact that it was completely straight somehow made it creepier. but anyway as he gets up your like, "noooo.. look behind you run!!!!" The other moment is when michael is in the ghost sheet and the girl is like f@#$ you and makes a call and the chase scene music plays as he slowely comes toward her without her knowing scared me because it's kind of like those separation moments except she didn't know he was coming.

9: Freaks: the ending chase scene was one of the most suspenseful hollywood has ever produced.

10: Friday 13th: I hate to put this movie on my list but the opening scene is scary because you can see it through ms. voorhees's eyes and you see the fear of the girl just throwing those boxes trying to stay alive genuinly scared me.

[ChEEbA]

oh you biotch. i don't suck at games i would wup your ass at halo 2.

I think you DO suck at games...I hated Halo, why would I play #2?
Get into CS source, C.O.D, U.T, something along those lines, then we'll talk about ass kicking.
Anyways, I was just tryin' to get you riled up...never played clock tower 3 m'self, but the series DOES have a history of being very frustrating, I will give you that. I still say there's not MANY games I can't finish...
Nice to meet another game player anyway...check out the games area, post some new threads.

since few people are posting messages on my thread i mention them here. my scariest moments are:

You know, you CAN make another thread...:rolleyes:

[WaitxUntilxDark]

i ment i made the thread i mentioned but one person is talking and the only tough games i have found tough were devil may cry 3, ninja gaiden, and jade empire's battle system was so easy it didn't give you a lot of choice so battling people who had projectile weapons was hard.

[WaitxUntilxDark]

are you done with your whore. or is he whoring it up by dancing in front of you in a thong. you sicken me, you know. he will do just what asami yamazaki did.
oh and people say audition is the japanese equivolent(i think that's how you spell it) of fatal attraciton on steroids mixed with redbull.

[WaitxUntilxDark]

ahh id on't get to scare children anymore.
Question....does this place liven up later in teh day?

[ShankS]

Originally posted by WaitxUntilxDark
ahh id on't get to scare children anymore.
Question....does this place liven up later in teh day?

it's the weekend, people are off work, busy with DIY, kids, family, relatives, getting drunk, having a bbq, going shopping and everything else that's done on a weekend....

so yeah wait till later.

[WaitxUntilxDark]

good i need something to help me wait till Conker:Live and Reloaded.

[bloodrayne]

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