Phobia

[Elvis_Christ]

I've really been getting into this album (& punked out grindcore in general). I wanna start playing some grindcore style stuff. Anyone else into Phobia?

http://www.profaneexistence.com/black/Covers5/PhobiaGrindLPL.jpg

[moonsorrow]

not realy... but thats great cover art

[Deposable]

What the fuck is Grindcore? and why do I think it is just death metal with a different name?

Listen too "The Germs". They are a real band. Darby Crash bitch!

[Fate Kills]

The Germs were great... a very important hardcore band. Pat Smear went on from The Germs and eventually joined Foo Fighters for a while, and everyone knows Foo Fighters are the greatest. Dave Grohl is true hardcore...

[Elvis_Christ]

Originally posted by Deposable
What the fuck is Grindcore? and why do I think it is just death metal with a different name?

Listen too "The Germs". They are a real band. Darby Crash bitch!

Grindcore is a offshoot of Death Metal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindcore

Phobia are a real band. Don't dis what you haven't heard.
I do listen to The Germs (one of my favorite patches too - What god means to me). But this is relevant punk for the time, the old stuff like The Germs is great but I like to listen to as much stuff dealing with todays issues as possible..... don't be stuck in the past with punk there's some great bands out there.

Brutal Truth (another Grindcore band) did a really good version of Media Blitz.

[Deposable]

All the social issues from the past haven't changed much since the germs, the clash, Minor Threat have been around. All the songs still apply today.

I really hate Death Metal... I hate Metal. I am a Punk Puritist.

And about "Dave Grohl is true hardcore..." are you smoking crack? Grohl has lost all his balls... he has gone soft. Kurt Cobain is probably turning over in his grave in ashame because of the Foo Fighers...

[Elvis_Christ]

Oh well your loss there a fucking great band. What punk bands are you into?

[Fate Kills]

Originally posted by Deposable
And about "Dave Grohl is true hardcore..." are you smoking crack? Grohl has lost all his balls... he has gone soft. Kurt Cobain is probably turning over in his grave in ashame because of the Foo Fighers...

Just because he moved on from doing punk music (and Dave Grohl was in a hardcore band), doesn't mean hes not punk. Former Dead Kennedys singer, Jello Biafra went on to do lots of great industrial music. And as far as Grohl going soft, that doesn't even make sense. Have you heard Probot? Probably not because you're so against metal, but Dave Grohl gathered some of the greatest metal musicians of all time, such as CRONOS and Lemmy, for that project.

[Elvis_Christ]

Probot has some awesome stuff on it. I really like the song with Max Cavelera and the King Diamond one. I like the drumming D.G did on Songs For The Deaf, too.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
Oh well your loss there a fucking great band. What punk bands are you into?

Are you asking me or Fate Kills?

[Elvis_Christ]

^^ You.

[Deposable]

The Ramones, The Clash, Minor Threat, Fugazi, The Evens, The Bad Brains, The Germs, Refused, Television, The Misfits (old), Sex Pistols... I am forgetting some... and also some bands are punk but have more rock n roll sounding music.

[Elvis_Christ]

Originally posted by Deposable
... and also some bands are punk but have more rock n roll sounding music.

Dead Boys, Stooges, Rocket From The Tombs, Dictators, MC5, Radio Birdman kinda thing......?

One of my favorites in that kinda vein:

http://images.windowsmedia.com/img/prov_s/300_80/00000000000000010572-800x800_72dpi_RGB.jpg

[Deposable]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
Dead Boys, Stooges, Rocket From The Tombs, Dictators, MC5, Radio Birdman kinda thing......?

One of my favorites in that kinda vein:


How could I forget the Stooges or MC5... god dammit.

I never heard the Dictators... I should really give them a try

[Elvis_Christ]

Its a good cheesed out (in a good way) rock n' roll. The Next Big Thing and Two Tub Man are real kickass songs you should download to see if you're into them. Do you get into the New York Dolls?

[Deposable]

I heard one song by the New York Dolls on the Radio. I really dug it. I am willing too hear more, seeing as how they were one of the original punk bands. I think the most original was The Ramones or The Sex Pistols because the dolls were just doing Twisted Rock N Roll.

[Elvis_Christ]

The Dolls have two great albums and are really worth your time. The Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers album L.A.M.F is good also (it has some great songs especially Pirate Love, Get off the Phone and One Track Mind). Sleazy junkie rock. Heard much of The Cramps?

Punks more a attitude than a style of music. The Pistols and Ramones are more rn'r bands than punk bands (as were Dead Boys, The Germs, Crime, ect). The first notable "punk" band was Crass in my opinon. They started punk as we know it today.... very influential on the whole scene.

http://www.punkstuff.com/done/crass.gif

"You said that we were trash... well the name's Crass not Clash. You can stuff your punk credentials cause it's you who take the cash"

[Deposable]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
The Dolls have two great albums and are really worth your time. The Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers album L.A.M.F is good also (it has some great songs especially Pirate Love, Get off the Phone and One Track Mind). Sleazy junkie rock. Heard much of The Cramps?

Punks more a attitude than a style of music. The Pistols and Ramones are more rn'r bands than punk bands (as were Dead Boys, The Germs, Crime, ect). The first notable "punk" band was Crass in my opinon. They started punk as we know it today.... very influential on the whole scene.

http://www.punkstuff.com/done/crass.gif

"You said that we were trash... well the name's Crass not Clash. You can stuff your punk credentials cause it's you who take the cash"

I understand what you mean about style, understood. but now a days, punk is more seen as what you wear. Back then, Punk is only about music and social meaning, which all the bands I named have.

What I don't understand is how you can say The Germs, Pistols, The ramones were more Rock N' Roll than Punk. You can't get any more attitude than Darby Crash.

I've heard of the Cramps, never really heard they're music. I am just not too into goths.

I disagree, The Velvet Understand and the Stooges were the first punk bands.

[Elvis_Christ]

The Cramps aren't goths. The Velvets and Stooges fit into the whole proto-punk thing for sure.... I was talking about what the scene has become. Theres always been bands that have been called punk for what they wore ever since people adopted the mohawk, spikes and leather jacket uniform. But it definatley is more noticable these days because of the bullshit "Fashioncore" bands like Good Charlotte, AFI, ect, ect..... so many bands that are all style and no substance. I think thats why I like the early American Hardcore scene (Circle Jerks, Minor Threat, Black Flag, Angry Samoans, Reagan Youth ect.) because it was just jeans and T-Shirts not the cliched uniform and it made the scene real again and it let to some great early 80s alternative music.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
The Cramps aren't goths. The Velvets and Stooges fit into the whole proto-punk thing for sure.... I was talking about what the scene has become. Theres always been bands that have been called punk for what they wore ever since people adopted the mohawk, spikes and leather jacket uniform. But it definatley is more noticable these days because of the bullshit "Fashioncore" bands like Good Charlotte, AFI, ect, ect..... so many bands that are all style and no substance. I think thats why I like the early American Hardcore scene (Circle Jerks, Minor Threat, Black Flag, Angry Samoans, Reagan Youth ect.) because it was just jeans and T-Shirts not the cliched uniform and it made the scene real again and it let to some great early 80s alternative music.

Me and you would make a bad ass band. I couldn't agree with you more.

I love all punk but you seem too like the "Hardcore" scene from the D.C area/West Coast... they didn't even call it "punk".

I totally agree with you, Minor Threat was one of my first punk bands and it changed my life...

[Elvis_Christ]

Yeh Minor Threat were a great band. I don't dig on the whole straigh-edge thing and it gets kinda preachy but they had some awesome songs like Filler, I Don't Wanna Hear It and In My Eyes.
The 80s Hardcore scene was really important to me a couple of years ago now I'm all about some of the more modern bands like Aus-Rotten, Provoked, Tragedy and the late 80s English scene with bands like Axegrinder and Amebix.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
Yeh Minor Threat were a great band. I don't dig on the whole straigh-edge thing and it gets kinda preachy but they had some awesome songs like Filler, I Don't Wanna Hear It and In My Eyes.
The 80s Hardcore scene was really important to me a couple of years ago now I'm all about some of the more modern bands like Aus-Rotten, Provoked, Tragedy and the late 80s English scene with bands like Axegrinder and Amebix.

<---- Punk Purist. :cool: I met Ian Mackaye, that means my life is almost complete. I'm not into Striaght edge at all, I am far from being striaght edge but too each their own

[Elvis_Christ]

Yeh "each to their own" definatley. Did you meet him at a Fugazi concert or something? A punk purist, huh so you only like the old shit?

[Deposable]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
Yeh "each to their own" definatley. Did you meet him at a Fugazi concert or something? A punk purist, huh so you only like the old shit?

I met him at The Even's Concert in Sacramento. Its his new band. Very cool. I only really like old punk... very few recent bands I can get into... because well... Punk is dead and has been dead.

[Elvis_Christ]

Nah... that shit will never die.