Things that bug you the most in a Horror movie..

[allmykids]

For me It's when they run upstairs. And when they scream or cry loud when there hiding. Why don't they just say here I am Kill me!! God Just shut the fuck up!!

[ShankS]

yep, loads of em....

-screaming out loud
-going out front and leaving door wide open
-walking about in the woods in underwear...not that I complain :p,
-leaving kitchen knives in the most prominent position for a burgler.
-being chased and get in the car, realising they aint got any keys.
-walk about in the dark trying to hide, whilst shining a torch as bright as a fucking light house.

there's more...




btw amk how you been? glad and is nice to see you posting :)

[allmykids]

Originally posted by ShankS
yep, loads of em....

-screaming out loud
-going out front and leaving door wide open
-walking about in the woods in underwear...not that I complain :p,
-leaving kitchen knives in the most prominent position for a burgler.
-being chased and get in the car, realising they aint got any keys.
-walk about in the dark trying to hide, whilst shining a torch as bright as a fucking light house.

there's more...




btw amk how you been? glad and is nice to see you posting :)

I'm doing alot better. I'm on Zoloft For my Bi-Poler. It looks like it's helping!! I will be posting everyday now. Thanks for asking!! ;)

[Vodstok]

Yay! She's back :)

what i hate:

Tking down the badguy with a half-assed attempt at injuring/killing them (usually something that wouldnt incapacitate a normal person...) and the Turning their fucking back on them, assuming they are dead.

In my horror movie, when Michael Meyers gets knocked down and lays there, Jamie Lee Curtis cuts his fucking head off and tosses it out the window. No sitting up menacingly at the end and disappearing.

[allmykids]

Oh there's another one I hate............. When they try to fit through something that's to small. Like in SCREAM when she gets stuck half way through the doggy door in the garage!! LOL DUMB ASS!!

[allmykids]

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[Preacher]

I hate it in hollywood horrors when the bloody makers decide that they have to explain every fuckin thing about the bad guy / monster to the point that it isn't scary any more.

Why cant somethin exist just because it does??

[Vodstok]

Because they take film critics to heart rather than the viewing public, and a great number of critics want to know why.

I try very hard to only explain things that need explaining in the stories i write. Maybe i'll get to make movies someday....

I agree with you 100% on this... Part of the beauty of Alien and Predator were that you dont know where they are from or what they want, they are just there and people die.

Oddly enough, Scream said it best when Skeet Ulrich mentions that its scarier when you dont know why.

Fear of the Unknown, the oldest and most powerful fear there is.

Something else i hate: When atmosphere and story take the back seat to gore. Gore isnt scary, its gross. Its only acceptable when it's obvious that scary wasnt the goal, IE, Dead alive(aka Braindead)

[Preacher]

Damn right.

One of my fave films, The Thing is cool cos its just there. They dont even know why or how. It just is.

[urgeok]

i hate all of the cliches where people do crap and things dont work as they would in normal life situations because they are needed to build up 'suspense'

it's just lazy cheap ass filmmaking. a talented writer/filmmaker knows how to build up suspense by keeping things believable and tense .. without resorting to worn old cliches.

unfortunately in the genre of horror ..there are very few decent filmmakers - most of them are pathetic hacks.

[Vodstok]

Exactly why i cant watch a lot of them, also why i dont bother watching sitcoms.... What is the point of watching something when you can accurately predict the entire plot, ending and all, in the first 5 minutes?

Incidentally, if anyone wants to comment on the predictability/use of old conventions in my stuff, there ar elinks in my sig. i would appreciate the feedback.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
Exactly why i cant watch a lot of them, also why i dont bother watching sitcoms.... What is the point of watching something when you can accurately predict the entire plot, ending and all, in the first 5 minutes?

Incidentally, if anyone wants to comment on the predictability/use of old conventions in my stuff, there ar elinks in my sig. i would appreciate the feedback.


fuck ! dont even get me started on sitcoms.
they are the reason why i stopped watching TV over 20 years ago.
garbage shit TV - an insult to the intelligence (if you have any)

the little i've been exposed to lately is even worse ..
why is it that people find sexual innuento so risque when they hear far worse at work every day. I wonder all the time how unfunny and unimaginative someone would have to be to thing ANYTHING in a sitcom is even remotely funny.

i love clever, origional, well made comedies ...
you wont find that in a sitcom (unless you consider Fawlty Towers a sitcom - i dont)

sorry if i stepped on any toes but thats exactly how i feel.

i hate that shit ..

[Vodstok]

There is the occasional sitcom that breaks the mold. Married with Children was one. It was horribly predictable, things were going to end up shit, you knew that every time. it was how they did it that was great.

News radio was just odd, in a good way. Jimmy James is my hero, and since he played Milton in Office Space also, Stephen Root is a god to me. Patrick Warburton was also great as Johnny Johnson... Freindly, charaismatic, loveable and thoroughly evil :)



Back, on subject...

"Too Creative" Kills. Probably why I am not a huge slasher fan. I cant stand situations where some completely off the wall rube goldberg machine is necessary for the kill. Final Destination was the only movie i haev seen so far where this one was actualy done well, and as it turns out, necessary. I absolutely loved it when the teacher got killed.... Thatw as the most incredible coincidence i have ever seen.

Another one: The movie establishes a theme, then deviates from it regularly. Example: Urban Legend....

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
"Too Creative" Kills.


there's a difference between being Too creative - and simply being full of shit..

i dont like them either .. the complicated serial killer with superhuman timing.

when i mean creative i mean someone clever enough to make suspennse out of sensible and real circumstances..

its hard to do - but it's not impossible ..

[filmmaker2]

He wears glasses--so I must strangle him with his glasses! He has a bottle of wine, so I must strangle him with his bottle of wine!

I kicked him in the kneecap and poured a glass of water on him, so now it's safe to turn my back! Oh thank goodness.

[sandy_x]

i hate bimbos in horror movies wen they run back in the house to save their hamster ye the killer wants your pet ffs or they hear a noise wen loads of ppl have been killed and they dont run out the house they go to see wat the noise was.

[bloodrayne]

Nudity...Honestly...It really gets on my nerves...It isn't scary, in ANY way, and it's a pain in the ass when you have to 'edit' everything for the kids...

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Nudity...Honestly...It really gets on my nerves...It isn't scary, in ANY way, and it's a pain in the ass when you have to 'edit' everything for the kids...



i have to say that this bugs the hell out of me ..

violence is ok, but nudity isnt ?

WTF ??!!

[jay o2 waster]

plot holes

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
i have to say that this bugs the hell out of me ..

violence is ok, but nudity isnt ?

WTF ??!! Yup...It's apparently an American thing...Actually...The kids know that the 'violence' is all fake...But, the nudity is TOO real...I wouldn't let them see REAL blood, guts, gore and violence either...

And, like I've said a million times...When I watch a horror movie, I wanna see HORROR...If I wanna see nudity and sex, I'll watch a porno..

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Yup...It's apparently an American thing...Actually...The kids know that the 'violence' is all fake...But, the nudity is TOO real...I wouldn't let them see REAL blood, guts, gore and violence either...

so what if nudity is real ?
we all have bodies ...

what message are you sending ?

impaling a woman with a knife is ok, but impaling her with a penis is evil ?

and .. we arent even talking sex here - just nudity

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
And, like I've said a million times...When I watch a horror movie, I wanna see HORROR...If I wanna see nudity and sex, I'll watch a porno..


horror movies are about people .. people are sometimes naked .. doesnt matter what genre of film ...

why does nudity = porno to you ?

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
so what if nudity is real ?
we all have bodies ...

what message are you sending ?

impaling a woman with a knife is ok, but impaling her with a penis is evil ?

and .. we arent even talking sex here - just nudity They know that no one is REALLY getting impaled with a knife...And 10 year olds don't need to see T&A...

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
why does nudity = porno to you ? No idea...Maybe I'm just a prude...

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
They know that no one is REALLY getting impaled with a knife...And 10 year olds don't need to see T&A...

but they need to see violence ?

have you really thought this through ?

not trying to be confrontational - i just need this explained to me because i cant get my head around it

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
but they need to see violence ?

have you really thought this through ?

not trying to be confrontational - i just need this explained to me because i cant get my head around it They know it's not REAL...Therefore they are NOT looking at any violence...Just people PRETENDING to be violent...

[jay o2 waster]

try getting your head around this you two:

violence and nudity, and both drive the story line.http://www.fatspy.dk/store/images/FatSpy_Screenshot_Cannibal_Holocaust3.jpg

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
try getting your head around this you two:

violence and nudity, and both drive the story line.AND...I haven't allowed my kids to see Cannibal Holocaust, OR Cannibal Ferox...

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
AND...I haven't allowed my kids to see Cannibal Holocaust, OR Cannibal Ferox... how old are your kids? I thought they were all grown up. If im not mistaken.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
They know it's not REAL...Therefore they are NOT looking at any violence...Just people PRETENDING to be violent...

apaprently i'll never understand it ...

it is very american and it horrifies me ..

you guys love to be tittilated ... innuendo, teasing, etc ..
i mean thats all you see on american TV ..


but one slipped nipple and the world comes crashing down ..

hangups being passed from generation to generation ...
making the most natural thing in the world (our bodies) completely unnatural and something to be ashamed of ...

no too cool :(

[newb]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Nudity...Honestly...It really gets on my nerves...It isn't scary, in ANY way,

Kathy Bates........nuff said

[jay o2 waster]

m confused....

where are you from rayne

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
how old are your kids? I thought they were all grown up. If im not mistaken. 16 and 10...Still minors...

Originally posted by urgeok
hangups being passed from generation to generation ...
making the most natural thing in the world (our bodies) completely unnatural and something to be ashamed of ...

no too cool :( They are completely unashamed of their bodies...But, they respect their bodies as something sacred to be shared with someone special, and not with the entire world...They believe in marriage before sex...And I think THAT's pretty cool ;)

Also, they have no desire to see strangers naked, and personally neither do I...Nor would they want strangers to see THEM naked, and I wouldn't either...

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by newb
Kathy Bates........nuff said amen to that shit

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
m confused....

where are you from rayne Northern Kentucky

[urgeok]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
try getting your head around this you two:

violence and nudity, and both drive the story line

yeah - thats something else but there are different reasons for it.

the more twisted horrors - violence = sex.

everytime michael puts the knife in - it's really his way of having sex ... the same as a lot of other horrors.

substitute the knife for a dick in a lot of films
(the same way songs about 'Rock and Roll' are really about fucking)


a couple of other reasons for nudity is to get people to see it ...people love horror movies and they love tits.
Look at the cover art on every single box - sex appeal is the draw.


the more valid reason for nudity is to build tension ..
when you are nude you are at your most vulnerable.
clothing is the 1st protective layer we hide in.

shower scenes are more frightning because we know how much more terrifying it would be to be stalked in the nude rather than in our covering ...

that of course goes back to years of conditioning to the point where we are now uncomfortable with our bodies ... the only thing that is truely ours .. weird.

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
16 and 10...Still minors...

They are completely unashamed of their bodies...But, they respect their bodies as something sacred to be shared with someone special, and not with the entire world...They believe in marriage before sex...And I think THAT's pretty cool ;)

Also, they have no desire to see strangers naked, and personally neither do I...Nor would they want strangers to see THEM naked, and I wouldn't either... 16 yo is wickid lady?

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Northern Kentucky where is urg from cause he was making it sound like you are from jolly ole england or something along those lines:D

[urgeok]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
where is urg from cause he was making it sound like you are from jolly ole england or something along those lines:D

huh ..

america = jolly old england ?

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
16 yo is wickid lady? Yup...Until September Originally posted by jay o2 waster
where is urg from cause he was making it sound like you are from jolly ole england or something along those lines:D LOL...He's in Canada

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
LOL...He's in Canada


bless our (more recent) european roots !

[newb]

I get where urge is coming from.You can watch one episode of C.S.I. and 5 people can get shot, but Janet Jackson flashes a tit and all hell breaks loose.

[tom-tom]

Originally posted by allmykids
For me It's when they run upstairs. And when they scream or cry loud when there hiding. Why don't they just say here I am Kill me!! God Just shut the fuck up!!



There is a simple answer to it: it is a horror movie. And it seems that that ususally happens in slasher movies. The victim of a killer doing completly idiotic things and making him/her so vunerable to attack is there also not to bore the auidence...i mean, think about it logically, must killers in movies are pretty stupid - though there are some exceptions - and it would be very boring if the victim was out smarting the killer all the time.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by newb
I get where urge is coming from.You can watch one episode of C.S.I. and 5 people can get shot, but Janet Jackson flashes a tit and all hell breaks loose. BUT...If Janet Jackson got shot at the superbowl, people would freak out about THAT even more...CSI is NOT real.....No one gets shot...No one bleeds...No one dies...

[newb]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
BUT...If Janet Jackson got shot at the superbowl, people would freak out about THAT even more...CSI is NOT real.....No one gets shot...No one bleeds...No one dies...

Not to sure if Janet Jackson's tit is real.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
BUT...If Janet Jackson got shot at the superbowl, people would freak out about THAT even more...CSI is NOT real.....No one gets shot...No one bleeds...No one dies...

then lets get back to the origional topic .. horror movies.
people get stabbed mutilated decapitated ..etc ..

i dont care if its real or not ... its still not the message i want my kid getting from a movie.

i was reluctant to let him see jurassic park - but i did because he loves dinosaurs.
but - i fast forward through the violence (which means i have to sit there and watch it every goddamn time)

if there was nudity - i couldnt care less ..
he sees us coming and going from the shower .. he runs around naked in the house ... its not a big deal to him ..

i dont want him seeing sex because he's too young to understand it even if explained properly.

but nudity - big deal ..
if we didnt make such a childish big deal out of it - the world would be a better place for it

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
but nudity - big deal ..
if we didnt make such a childish big deal out of it - the world would be a better place for it And that's the way you feel about it, there's nothing wrong with that...But, we see our bodies as 'special', 'sacred', and a gift to share with the right person...That's the complete opposite of being ashamed, or uncomfortable about our bodies...

And my kids don't really take messages from movies...they are intelligent enough to see it for what it is...And they honestly spend MOST of their time critiquing the quality of the special effects, and making suggestions about how THEY could have 'done it better'...It's ALL fake to them...No nightmares, no induction of homicidal tendencies, no confusion...Nada...

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
And that's the way you feel about it, there's nothing wrong with that...But, we see our bodies as 'special', 'sacred', and a gift to share with the right person...That's the complete opposite of being ashamed, or uncomfortable about our bodies...

well intimate contact with your bodies .. sure i can understand that being special ..

what do you think of people who wear bathing suits ?

i know you think cleavage is ok ... so does it come down to the actual nipple that is sacred ?

this is impossible for me to understand

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
i know you think cleavage is ok ... so does it come down to the actual nipple that is sacred ?

this is impossible for me to understand Well, that's a good question because it CAN be a matter of opinion...The Amish consider bare legs to be nudity, and some Muslims consider bare ankles to be nudity...For us, I suppose it's pretty much whatever is covered by a bikini...Just like, cleavage wouldn't be considered porn, but nipples and genitals would be...It's actually a pretty common consensus...

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by urgeok
this is impossible for me to understand Oh wait!...I just had an idea...How about if you and your wife go out in public, and she shows a little cleavage, and you go totally naked?...See which one of you gets arrested...Then maybe someone else can explain it to you better than I can...lol

[Vodstok]

What it comes down to is that America was started by Puritans, people so anal that 15th Century English people thought they were tight-asses.

a lot of that mentality has trickled down through the generations. I lived in europe a third of my life, so i dont really see nudity as a big deal either, but Bree is from Missouri originally and has some very strong opinions about it.

Understanding it wont really help, it is more of an emotional thing than anything. You see, Canada doesnt have a bible belt, we do. And I'm not saying you have to be religious to feel that nudity is inappropriate. Americans as a country are more predisposed to think nudity is unnecesary and/or bad. it's a product of being from this country. Hell, i remember German shampoo commercials with bare tits, during primetime (and we didnt even have cable). Europe and many other countries just dont consider it a big deal.

Trainspotting and 28 Days Later both have bare penis, which is almost unheard of in America. Dicks are dirty (well, many of them are....)

It comes down to mentality and use. if the audience doesnt like nudity, then any is inappropriate. If it is just there to sell tickets, i tend to think it is lame. pLus, they never had any women i was interested in naked anyway :p

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
For us, I suppose it's pretty much whatever is covered by a bikini...Just like, cleavage wouldn't be considered porn, but nipples and genitals would be...It's actually a pretty common consensus...

its the common consensus i have a problem with !

[jay o2 waster]

god blessed canada cause usa got out of hand

[newb]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Oh wait!...I just had an idea...How about if you and your wife go out in public, and she shows a little cleavage, and you go totally naked?...See which one of you gets arrested...Then maybe someone else can explain it to you better than I can...lol

The police would have to actually be able to see his penis.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by newb
The police would have to actually be able to see his penis.


my belly doesnt totally obscure it .,,,, yet :D

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
If it is just there to sell tickets, i tend to think it is lame,

what's lame - the nudity or the people it draws ?

again .. paying money for the chance to see a pair of naked breasts .. is that a reflection on the filmmakers or society ?

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by urgeok
what's lame - the nudity or the people it draws ?

again .. paying money for the chance to see a pair of naked breasts .. is that a reflection on the filmmakers or society ? sounds like prostitution

[Vodstok]

I think with me it usually comes down to this:

The actres sherself. IF she shows her tits tio get attention to help her carreer, fine (shannon elizabeth did it, and is cool with it)

Its the shee rnumber who do it repeadtedly, then whine that all they are is a pair of tits.

To be honest, im pretty apathetic about the whole thing. i get to see all the tits i want at home. Daily.

:)

[urgeok]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Well, that's a good question because it CAN be a matter of opinion...The Amish consider bare legs to be nudity, and some Muslims consider bare ankles to be nudity...

there are places in the middle east where the women cover their hair but their breasts are barely concealed - because breasts are for feeding babies and hair is considered sensual.


WE make things dirty..us - we do.
the human body is no big deal - we all have one ..
but now that we've made sucha big deal about it - we have a million problems that go along with it ..

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Vodstok
I think with me it usually comes down to this:

The actres sherself. IF she shows her tits tio get attention to help her carreer, fine (shannon elizabeth did it, and is cool with it)

Its the shee rnumber who do it repeadtedly, then whine that all they are is a pair of tits.

To be honest, im pretty apathetic about the whole thing. i get to see all the tits i want at home. Daily.

:)

oh lord you have a selective memory ...
of course you dig your wife's boobs .. but there are a lot of actresses you'd be awfully happy to see unclothed ..
you've mentioned a number of them in the past ..

there's nothing wrong with that ... but dont pretend that seeing a gorgeous woman naked isnt a turn on..


and why is it - because we made the body such a secretive mysterious thing ...

i grew up in the same culture/society .. i love lovely naked women (or clothed) but my intuectual side can still see how rediculous it all is ..

[Vodstok]

i actually have a shaved ape body. ive kept it a secret for so long, it feels good to come out about it, here, today.



Dont ask, i have no idea what is up with me today.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
sounds like prostitution

so does dressing 'hot' as a waitress to get more tips ...
or doing the same in the office for attention ...
or modelling ...


its all about using your natural assets for gain and profit.

can you blame them ? they cant sell if no one's buying.

[filmmaker2]

Originally posted by Vodstok
i actually have a shaved ape body. ive kept it a secret for so long, it feels good to come out about it, here, today.


So where do you keep it? Do you have like a walk-in freezer or something?