Hitchcock

[alkytrio666]

What's your favorite Hitchcock film? (Doesn't have to be a horror movie.)

Mine's a tie: Rear Window and Psycho

(I liked Rope a lot too, though...)

[zwoti]

north by northwest

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by zwoti
north by northwest

Great movie...

[jenna26]

The only Hitchcock movie that I don't like is The Birds.

But my favorite is Frenzy. I also love Rope, Psycho and Vertigo (which is about as perfect a movie ever made, in my opinion).

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by jenna26
The only Hitchcock movie that I don't like is The Birds.

But my favorite is Frenzy. I also love Rope, Psycho and Vertigo (which is about as perfect a movie ever made, in my opinion).

I don't see why everyone hates The Birds. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

[phantomstranger]

Psycho
The Birds (I love this movie)
North By Northwest
The Man Who Knew Too Much (Jimmy Stewart version)
Dial M For Murder
Vertigo

[The_Return]

Ive only seen Psycho....damn good movie. I own The Lady Vanishes, but havnt got around to watching it

[zwoti]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
I don't see why everyone hates The Birds. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

nothing wrong with the birds

[zwoti]

Originally posted by The_Return
Ive only seen Psycho....damn good movie. I own The Lady Vanishes, but havnt got around to watching it

the lady vanishes is very enjoyable, especially as a black comedy

we'll forget about the 70's remake :mad:

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by The_Return
Ive only seen Psycho....damn good movie. I own The Lady Vanishes, but havnt got around to watching it

The Lady Vanishes is a very good one...one of those really "fun" movies, sit down one sunday with a lot of food and just relax and watch that shit. :)

[The_Return]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
The Lady Vanishes is a very good one...one of those really "fun" movies, sit down one sunday with a lot of food and just relax and watch that shit. :)

Goin away for the weekend, Ill probably bring the good ol' portable DVD player, and watch this:)

[jenna26]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
I don't see why everyone hates The Birds. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

I didn't know everyone did. :confused: I just don't care for the storyline all that much. And I don't hate it exactly, I just don't like it. It is impossible for me to hate a Hitchcock film.

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by jenna26
I didn't know everyone did. :confused: I just don't care for the storyline all that much. And I don't hate it exactly, I just don't like it. It is impossible for me to hate a Hitchcock film.

I just remember in The Birds remake thread everyone was saying how it wasn't very good so it was ok to remake it...I still don't believe someone could dare think of remaking a Hitchcock film. For Christ's sake, think of some original damn ideas.

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by The_Return
Goin away for the weekend, Ill probably bring the good ol' portable DVD player, and watch this:)

Do it. Satisfaction guaranteed.

[urgeok]

the man who knew too much. (2nd version)

great joke at the end..

[jenna26]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
I just remember in The Birds remake thread everyone was saying how it wasn't very good so it was ok to remake it...I still don't believe someone could dare think of remaking a Hitchcock film. For Christ's sake, think of some original damn ideas.

Ah, I don't think I read any of that thread. Anyway, I agree. At the very least, Hitchcock's films should just be left alone. The Psycho remake was so unnecessary. And I would hate to have a complete hack come in and just completely miss the point. I can just feel a remake of one of Hitchcock's classics with a bunch of pointless gore and bad dialogue coming up.

And though there are probably no truly original ideas, I believe that there are probably some really smart scripts floating around that have at least some originality that are being pushed aside while the people that are financing these films are throwing money at a "sure thing".

[urgeok]

there is something to take into consideration -
that with each new generation - they become further and further from the origional sources.

most young people today dont know that these films are remakes until they hear it mentioned.

A remake can ge good - it can be bad ... in either case it might compell people to seek out the origionals ...

i've also said something that i'll repeat again .. remaking movies isnt new to our generation.

people have been remaking films since moving pictures were invented for the same reasons they are being done now.

nothing is untouchable ... no one is forcing anyone to see them.
if they arent any good then the pictures wont make money and the trend will stop.

if they make money then someone is doing something right - catering to the appropriate audiences.

complaining about it or being indignant about it is futile and a waste of energy ...

[surfnazi]

All this talk of remakes make me feel sad. The Psycho remake was terrible, which really surprised the hell out of me considering they had such a brilliant director helming it in Gus Van Sant(Good Will Hunting, Drugstore Cowboy). But I think that its pretty biased to assume that every remake thats going to be coming out is going to be godawful. I mean there have been many fantastic remakes, some that even surpassed the originals (The Thing, The Fly)! I can definately see that with the right writer and a good director a Hitchcock remake could be done well. It would have to be one of his less famous(but still astounding) films such as Rear Window or Vertigo, but I believe it can be done.

However I don't think any remake could ever surpass Hitchcock's work, as he is THE greatest horror filmmaker of the 20th century, aside from George A. Romero(in my opinion).

I've seen Psycho, I've seen Vertigo, I've seen Rear Window, I've seen The Birds, and even The Man Who Knew Too Much, what other Hitchcock films would you guys reccommend? I'm looking for something more along the lines of his best horror work like Psycho and The Birds, any suggestions?

[zwoti]

wouldn't call him a horror director

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by surfnazi
All this talk of remakes make me feel sad. The Psycho remake was terrible, which really surprised the hell out of me considering they had such a brilliant director helming it in Gus Van Sant(Good Will Hunting, Drugstore Cowboy). But I think that its pretty biased to assume that every remake thats going to be coming out is going to be godawful. I mean there have been many fantastic remakes, some that even surpassed the originals (The Thing, The Fly)! I can definately see that with the right writer and a good director a Hitchcock remake could be done well. It would have to be one of his less famous(but still astounding) films such as Rear Window or Vertigo, but I believe it can be done.

However I don't think any remake could ever surpass Hitchcock's work, as he is THE greatest horror filmmaker of the 20th century, aside from George A. Romero(in my opinion).

I've seen Psycho, I've seen Vertigo, I've seen Rear Window, I've seen The Birds, and even The Man Who Knew Too Much, what other Hitchcock films would you guys reccommend? I'm looking for something more along the lines of his best horror work like Psycho and The Birds, any suggestions?

To you and Urge:

I agree with you guys, because that's not really my point. I don't always mind remakes...hell I absolutely LOVED The Amityville Horror and Dawn of the Dead remakes. What I'm saying is that hollywood ij just getting dumber, because there just isn't any creativity anymore. No fresh ideas. What the hell are they gonna remake in 20 years?! THE REMAKES?!?! It just pisses me off how they can't leave movies alone, pretty much every single movie soming out will either be remade or will have a sequel, prequel, etc...

I'm even thinking about checking Madagascar out because it's a fresh original idea...I mean, is there anyone out there besides Jenna who agrees with me on this?

[surfnazi]

I totally understand what you're saying man but thats not entirely true at all. Sure not many original HORROR films have come out in a while but there have been a ton of amazing films that were just totally original and fresh and mind blowing in the last five years. Here are some examples.

Adaptation
Almost Famous
A Beautiful Mind
Closer
The Motorcycle Diaries
Donnie Darko
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Garden State
Ghost World
Kill Bill Vol. 1 & 2
The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou
Lost in Translation
Moulin Rouge
Punch-Drunk Love
Requiem For a Dream
Traffic
Training Day
Vanilla Sky

And those are just off the top of my head. All fantastic films that came out in only the last five years.

Basically just don't see anything that's advertised on TV more than 10 times a day, because that means its a big studio production and probably completely unoriginal(not always the case). Check out indie films and Sundance films and artistic ones, those are the ones still going strong and great.

And to someone earlier, you don't have to consider Hitchcock a horror director because he is one, he came out with several horror movies but I'm not saying he's EXCLUSIVELY a horror director, you know?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by alkytrio666

I'm even thinking about checking Madagascar out because it's a fresh original idea...I mean, is there anyone out there besides Jenna who agrees with me on this?

i absolutely hated Madagascar .. so did my wife and another parent i know ...

[jenna26]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
To you and Urge:

I agree with you guys, because that's not really my point. I don't always mind remakes...hell I absolutely LOVED The Amityville Horror and Dawn of the Dead remakes. What I'm saying is that hollywood ij just getting dumber, because there just isn't any creativity anymore. No fresh ideas. What the hell are they gonna remake in 20 years?! THE REMAKES?!?! It just pisses me off how they can't leave movies alone, pretty much every single movie soming out will either be remade or will have a sequel, prequel, etc...


See that is always my point. I don't really have a problem with remakes. There are several remakes that I really like; I also loved the Dawn of the Dead remake even though it doesn't touch the original. The Fly was much better than the original in my opinion. One of my favorite movies, Freaks was technically a remake. I just believe there are way too many remakes these days. No it isn't a new thing, but there was a time when there were more original films than remakes being released. Now it doesn't seem like they even try to put anything new out there. Like you say, it feels like ever other movie released is a remake. No effort is made to put anything new out there. And usually when they do these "reimaginings", they don't pay proper respect to the material it was based upon.

And I am mainly talking about horror films here.

[jenna26]

Originally posted by surfnazi
I totally understand what you're saying man but thats not entirely true at all. Sure not many original HORROR films have come out in a while but there have been a ton of amazing films that were just totally original and fresh and mind blowing in the last five years. Here are some examples.

Vanilla Sky



Um, Vanilla Sky is a remake...LOL....sorry I couldn't resist. You really should see the original, I personally believe it is the better film. But the experience is kind of ruined if you see Vanilla Sky first.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0125659/

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by urgeok
i absolutely hated Madagascar .. so did my wife and another parent i know ...

Haha ok, nevermind. Thanks Urge, ya' saved me 7 bucks...but what should I see now?!

[surfnazi]

Originally posted by jenna26
Um, Vanilla Sky is a remake...LOL....sorry I couldn't resist. You really should see the original, I personally believe it is the better film. But the experience is kind of ruined if you see Vanilla Sky first.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0125659/

lol yeah I know I just remembered after posting it. I wrote it down cause I was just going down my "My Movies" section at IMDB and adding all my favorite films from the last five years, and that was one of em. Guess I should have looked that over.

However that doesn't mean Vanilla Sky isn't a great movie cause it's one if not my all time favorite film. It's much better than the original in my opinion, and everything from Tom Cruise's performance to the music to the insane imagery just makes this an awesome movie. I guess thats what I considered original about it.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
Haha ok, nevermind. Thanks Urge, ya' saved me 7 bucks...but what should I see now?!


dont take my word for it - a lot of people liked it.

the guy behind me laughed all the way through it.

goddamn idiot ..

[jenna26]

Originally posted by surfnazi

However that doesn't mean Vanilla Sky isn't a great movie cause it's one if not my all time favorite film. It's much better than the original in my opinion, and everything from Tom Cruise's performance to the music to the insane imagery just makes this an awesome movie. I guess thats what I considered original about it.

I am a huge Crowe fan, but I am not crazy about Vanilla Sky. I guess, because I had seen the original and loved it. And I just didn't buy Tom Cruise in the role. But I do think that as remakes go, it is a fairly good one. Just not a favorite of mine. I was expecting too much from it I think, because I am such a Crowe fan (Almost Famous and Say Anything....are two of my favorite non-horror films :D ) so I went in expecting to be blown away. And I just wasn't.

[The_Return]

Watched The Lady Vaoshes a couple days ago...very good movie! Check for my post in the last seen movie thread, it's more indepth.

[Kubrick]

Originally posted by zwoti
north by northwest

Same here. North By Northwest is one of my favorite films ever. I also enjoy Rear Window, Vertigo and Notorious, amoung others.

[zwoti]

Originally posted by Kubrick
Same here. North By Northwest is one of my favorite films ever. I also enjoy Rear Window, Vertigo and Notorious, amoung others.

there are so many to enjoy

[jenna26]

Originally posted by zwoti
there are so many to enjoy

There really is. I forgot to mention Spellbound, which is another of my favorites.

[tom-tom]

Originally posted by jenna26
The only Hitchcock movie that I don't like is The Birds.

But my favorite is Frenzy. I also love Rope, Psycho and Vertigo (which is about as perfect a movie ever made, in my opinion).


Yeah, The Birds - it's one of those movies where you appreciate it the more you watch.

[tom-tom]

Personally, i've loved all the Hitchcock movies i've seen so far. That includes:

Psycho (1960)

The Birds (1963)

North by Northwest (1959)

Rear Window (1954)

Vertigo (1958)

[jenna26]

Originally posted by hellboy
My favorites:

Spellbound
The Birds
North By Northwest
The Man Who Knew Too Much
Vertigo
Psycho

Great list. Except for The Birds :p Just kidding. I can understand why people like that movie, I just don't. And I have watched it several times, it just bothers me....LOL....

Anyway doesn't anyone love Frenzy as much as I do? Geez.....;)

[urgeok]

Originally posted by jenna26
Great list. Except for The Birds :p Just kidding. I can understand why people like that movie, I just don't. And I have watched it several times, it just bothers me....LOL....

Anyway doesn't anyone love Frenzy as much as I do? Geez.....;)


i liked frenzy - havent seen it for years -

the strangulation scene was one of the early scenes that freaked me out as a kid ..

[jenna26]

Originally posted by urgeok
i liked frenzy - havent seen it for years -

the strangulation scene was one of the early scenes that freaked me out as a kid ..

What I love about this movie is it starts out with this character that is so unlikeable in so many ways. And then it just builds up and every single thing goes wrong for this guy. It is morbidly funny but at the same time you have to feel sorry for him.

But that scene is intense, I didn't see this movie until I was eighteen I think and it still made me uncomfortable.

[Tat2]

The Birds. Absolute favorite A.H. film. Psycho would be my 2nd. favorite.

[alkytrio666]

I just went into downtown Chicago yesterday where they're having a Hitchcock film festivel at "The Musicbox Theater". I got to see Vertigo on the big screen in 70mm. It was pretty awesome. If anyone cares...

[Elvis_Christ]

Pyscho and Vertigo.... very twisted films.

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
Pyscho and Vertigo.... very twisted films.

Yah, the twists in Vertigo are just crazy, over and over again.

Psycho also has a very excelent twist, if you don't already know it.

Both amazing films, but my favorite remains Rear Window.

[Pennywise8]

I've only seen the remake of Psycho. But my uncle saw the original, and said the remake was almost exactly like the original. Vince Vaughn did good as Norman Bates.

[alkytrio666]

No offense, but how would you know Vince Vaugn made a good Norman Bates if you haven't seen the original? Vince Vaugn made a terrible Norman Bates in a horrible remake of a classic.

[jenna26]

Originally posted by Pennywise8
I've only seen the remake of Psycho. But my uncle saw the original, and said the remake was almost exactly like the original. Vince Vaughn did good as Norman Bates.

It was an almost identical shot for shot remake, which made it absurd. What was the point? There was absolutely no attempt at original direction; it took the story absolutely nowhere new and the original simply could not be duplicated (and it really shouldn't have been attempted, I expect more from Van Sant). The original is a much better film. The remake was completely pointless, just ridiculous when compared to the original and the acting is mediocre at best (sadly, Vaughn was the best thing about the film). Such a disappointment when you consider the sheer amount of talent involved in the movie.

But that is just one opinion.....:D

[Pennywise8]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
No offense, but how would you know Vince Vaugn made a good Norman Bates if you haven't seen the original? Vince Vaugn made a terrible Norman Bates in a horrible remake of a classic.


I meant he did a good job being all paranoid and stuff.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
No offense, but how would you know Vince Vaugn made a good Norman Bates if you haven't seen the original? Vince Vaugn made a terrible Norman Bates in a horrible remake of a classic.

i thought Vince Vaughn did just fine ..

[The_Return]

I need to see that remake...

For the life of me I can see V V playing that role

[scoville]

Strangers On A Train
Notorious
Vertigo
Rope
North By Northwest

not necessarily in that order.

[RoLLiNLiGhTs]

No doubt, Rear window...and North by northwest...

[Blues Singer]

Alfred Hitchcock is the greatest director of all time. Fact!

My fave Hitch film - Rear Window

But also consider,

Psycho
North By Northwest
Suspicion
The Lodger
Frenzy

I really didn't like The Trouble With Harry much. That's the only Hitchcock film I've never watched to the end. There's a few I haven't seen but I've seen 28 of his films.

[jenna26]

Hey, someone else finally mentioned Frenzy on a list of favorites. You have great taste....lol....I have never seen The Lodger. I need to add that one to my must-see list, I suppose. One of the very few Hitchcock films I haven't seen. The Trouble With Harry is another I haven't seen (well, I have seen parts of it on TCM, but never sat down and watched it through to the end).

[AUSTIN316426808]

North by Northwest


Hitchcock is definately one of the top 5 directors ever(imo)

[Blues Singer]

Originally posted by jenna26
Hey, someone else finally mentioned Frenzy on a list of favorites. You have great taste....lol....I have never seen The Lodger. I need to add that one to my must-see list, I suppose. One of the very few Hitchcock films I haven't seen. The Trouble With Harry is another I haven't seen (well, I have seen parts of it on TCM, but never sat down and watched it through to the end).


Yes the Lodger is ace. Depends if you like silents. End of the day a great film is a great film, I know some people are funny about silent or subtitled films like that.

Frenzy is brilliant too. To be honest though I was a little shocked with Hitch showing not one, but two naked women!! The old spunker! It just feels different to his other films. Maybe it's because it's his first movie filmed in England for a long time I don't know. It just feels a lot more modern than the others.

[ClassicHorror]

The Lodger, Vertigo, The Birds.

Of Course Psycho original over new one, never liked the remake.

[jenna26]

Originally posted by Blues Singer
Yes the Lodger is ace. Depends if you like silents. End of the day a great film is a great film, I know some people are funny about silent or subtitled films like that.

Frenzy is brilliant too. To be honest though I was a little shocked with Hitch showing not one, but two naked women!! The old spunker! It just feels different to his other films. Maybe it's because it's his first movie filmed in England for a long time I don't know. It just feels a lot more modern than the others.

I love classics, so I don't mind silent films. In fact, I just love movies period.....like you said, a great film is a great film.

I think Frenzy is fairly brutal and graphic in a lot of ways (not to mention brutally funny) and it is one of my favorite films of all time. It is certainly unique among Hitchcock's work.

[immortalem]

Psycho
Shadow of a Doubt
Rear Window
North by Northwest
Strangers on a train

I think Hitchcock is a great director and his movies are great.

[gordytheghoul]

Frenzy is my all-time fav, but Shadow of a Doubt is great, and seems to be mentioned very little here, and it was as legend has it, Hitch's favorite film of his. :cool:

Family Plot, the only one of Hitch's films that was a total waste. :eek:

[alkytrio666]

Originally posted by gordytheghoul
Family Plot, the only one of Hitch's films that was a total waste. :eek:

Haven't seen that one! It always looked kinda' dumb to me, and it looked so new and unlike Hitchcock. Is it so bad that it's not worth a free viewing on TV?

[pinkfloyd45769]

Psycho:) One of the best ever made!

[The_Return]

Frenzy, Psycho, and Lady Vanishes

[gordytheghoul]

Originally posted by alkytrio666
Haven't seen that one! It always looked kinda' dumb to me, and it looked so new and unlike Hitchcock. Is it so bad that it's not worth a free viewing on TV?

No, sadly it is not, those two hours of your life would be better spent watching something good, even if not Hitchcock.

[nine9]

Originally posted by hellboy
I'm watching The Birds right now on DVD. I cant get enough of this movie, lol.

That is one of my favorites too! Also Psycho of course and Rear Window.

[Festered]

I don't see why everyone hates The Birds. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Tippi Hedren.

She ranks very low on most Hitch ice queen polls at other film forums. Two factors: She was not an established(or even struggling) actress, but a model. Which kind of gives some the impression she had no talent. Number 2: She rejected the sexual advances of Sir H(who fantasized about having an affair with her), which many other Hwood starlets would have jumped at for a part in one of his films.

As far as my personal opinion, I thought she was quite good, and would put her in the top 10. She did follow some really tough acts- Grace Kelly, Eva Marie Saint, Ingrid Bergman, Janet Leigh and even Doris Day, but I think she held her own with those ladies.

And some of his silent era actresses were pretty abyssmal. So Hedren was far from the worst.