Marijuana Legalization

[virus five]

I noticed that the legalization of marijuana was brought up in the thread entitled "Moving". Instead of being off-topic there, I thought that we could discuss it here.

I'm sure that a great lot of you will loudly proclaim that it should be legalized. I, too, believe that it should be.

I also don't use marijuana. I have in the past, but it's not my cup of tea, so to speak. However, I believe that its legalization will solve many problems. Deforestation would grind to a halt. It also has its obvious medicinal purposes.

However, I will also freely admit that its acceptance will pose some new problems. DUI laws would obviously change.

I do not believe that it could be commercialized and taxed, however. The fact is, any idiot with a lamp can grow a good plant. Or do you disagree?

There are many books regarding this topic, also. Has anyone read any? I, myself, do have Jello Biafra's "Grow More Pot" on audio mp3 if anyone is interested. Reach me via AIM if you want the data transfer.

[jay o2 waster]

Legalized, NO!!
Decriminlized, Yes.

The goverment would fuck it up if it was legalized, they'd add preservitives and shit to it and pure bud straight from a plant would would be a thing of the past. Decriminalize it so a kid can grow his own stash in his back yard.

[knife_fight]

I feel like I'm in high school

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by knife_fight
I feel like I'm in high school howso?

[knife_fight]

there's only so many times something can be debated before you're turned off to all sides of the argument

[mandolin_ava]

I said decriminalize in the other post before that one dude said it in this one!

NAH!


...because it'd go to the tobacco industries... and they can't handle TOBACCO!.

[barbra]

see the thing is is that its legal in some states of the u.s. to grow x number of plants. The laws state to state vary as well as far as what is considered a misdominor or felony. How strict the man is on you in your state is completly up to you. Choose who you vote for and remeber that the president doesn't call all the shots, you have to make changes on a state to state level. Pay attention to what being voted for, read the paper, get involved with your comunitys local goverment and eventually you will make a change. Until then you're all talk.

[mandolin_ava]

Originally posted by barbra
see the thing is is that its legal in some states of the u.s. to grow x number of plants. The laws state to state vary as well as far as what is considered a misdominor or felony. How strict the man is on you in your state is completly up to you. Choose who you vote for and remeber that the president doesn't call all the shots, you have to make changes on a state to state level. Pay attention to what being voted for, read the paper, get involved with your comunitys local goverment and eventually you will make a change. Until then you're all talk.

Until a couple of months ago, I wasn't legally old enough to vote. I do believe that in this country, you do not matter until old enough to vote or consume...

...which is probably a lot better than any other country.

I so want to pay attention. But then there's other stuff going on...

Do you have a web site that has information about states and the level of... strictness to marijuana plantage?

Because that would be super.

[barbra]

just listen to public radio, read the paper. If clear channel communications has anything to do with anything you hear, pay no attention.

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516

[ChEEbA]

I'm not familiar with any OTHER countries legal systems in regards to weed, othr than the fact it's usually not legal to carry over a certain amount of bud, and the amount of plants chages area to area, as far as I know.
I dont think legalisation would cause that many problems myself.
It could CLEARLY be used to raise revenue, but then again, there would be pricing issues too.
I dunno, I don't care...I don't really NEED it to be legal, it's not as though anyone's been sent to jail for smoking a blunt...well, sure as fuck not that I know of, however, it would be NICE if the system worked for those that preferred this as an alternative to alcohol.
As for chemically manufacured drugs...fuck 'em, fuck em all.

It's not exactly on the SAME topic, but there is some interesting reading to be had in THIS old thread:
http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=12198

I've cut down my useage significantly since the time this thread was originally posted, but my views are still largely the same.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by barbra
see the thing is is that its legal in some states of the u.s. to grow x number of plants.

Please, tell me where you can find this info. Could you give me a law site where it clearly states that

[barbra]

http://www.passyourdrugtest.com/mjlaws.htm

[barbra]

http://www.legaljoint.net/mmj/WALAW_content.asp?p=mmj&mmj=1&state=55

http://www.rand.org/publications/RB/RB6012/



more?

[barbra]

Originally posted by Deposable
Please, tell me where you can find this info. Could you give me a law site where it clearly states that http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4012.html

http://www.marijuananews.com/marijuananews/cowan/alaskan_medical_marijuana_law_we.htm

http://north.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=alaska-marijuana-10132004

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2004-10-28-marijuana-ballots_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA

http://www.compassionatecoalition.org/phpBB2/archive.php/o_t__t_3329__medical-marijuana-laws-in-various-states.html

[ChEEbA]

And again, if anybody missed it...

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=12198

Feel free to ressurect if need be.
NB: Good example of an "argument".

[Deposable]

Maybe I missed something but its only semi-legal in Alaska

[barbra]

you're alowed to grow up to six plants, you can not sell it, its for personal use only. You can't drive with it, if you do its the same as a dui

[ChEEbA]

Maybe I missed something but its only semi-legal in Alaska

HAha..."semi"

[bloodrayne]

I only have one opinion on this subject...


If Alcohol is legal...Marijuana should be too...

If Marijuana is illegal...Alcohol should be too...



Marijuana is certainly no worse than alcohol, and possibly not even as bad...

[barbra]

I wish my profession could be pot, growing pot, selling pot, marketing the shit. Its really not fare that that one thing Im REALLY good at that Im not burnt out on is illegal. Maybe I should become a lobiest?

[ChEEbA]

So you wanna catch some lobsters, huh?:D

[virus five]

Originally posted by knife_fight
I feel like I'm in high school

That's fine, but this IS a real debate, no matter how juvenile you happen to feel at the moment.

There are large lobby groups, such as NORML, that are devoted to the legalization of marijuana. I think I already clearly stated that I did not want the "yeah, I'm a stoner" replies. I think this forum (astoundingly enough) is discussing this topic very well.

If it makes you feel any better, I'm 27, have a decent occupation, am of sound and rational mind, and I don't use illicit drugs.

[Deposable]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
HAha..."semi"

HAha.... that was funny.

There isn't any law where it is legal in any U.S state. Its legal for Patients (or their primary caregivers) to legally possess up to 1 ounce of usable marijuana and may grow up to six plants. There is a confidential state-run patient registry.

So, no its not legal UNLESS you have a medical condition

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by barbra
see the thing is is that its legal in some states of the u.s. to grow x number of plants. The laws state to state vary as well as far as what is considered a misdominor or felony. How strict the man is on you in your state is completly up to you. Choose who you vote for and remeber that the president doesn't call all the shots, you have to make changes on a state to state level. Pay attention to what being voted for, read the paper, get involved with your comunitys local goverment and eventually you will make a change. Until then you're all talk. barbra youve out done youself:D

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by virus five


I do not believe that it could be commercialized and taxed, however.


this is the exact reason it will never be legalized.

[barbra]

Originally posted by jay o2 waster
barbra youve out done youself:D the u.s. goverment was set up so we could have non-violent revolutions. Lets have one already! Im a voter, how about you?

[jay o2 waster]

Originally posted by barbra
the u.s. goverment was set up so we could have non-violent revolutions. Lets have one already! Im a voter, how about you? sure am

[Hate_Breeder]

Marijuana=happy, happy=good

Therefore marijuana should be legalized, but not commercialized or taxed....fuck that shit

[Deposable]

Originally posted by hellboy
Why not legalize all illegal drugs?

Think before answering because there are pros and cons for ALL of them. Personally, weed does absolutely nothing for me. The first and last time I tried it, A friend said try this and you'll have the best sex. Well, I passed out. She was pissed, I was pissed. Then of course my year in jail for pot that wasnt mine. Nothing but bad expieriences surrounding pot. I wouldnt shed a single tear if the shit just stopped growing.

Maybe... you should just stay away from drugs

[Deposable]

Originally posted by hellboy
I do. Trust me. When ya have kids, there shouldnt be anything more important. I've done my share. I'm not knocking anyone who smokes pot, more power to them. I just cant see or understand the Massive attracting to that particular one. Is this a problem? I'm putting the drug down, not the people that smoke it.

Nah, I get what you mean. Weed is a drug and sometimes people don't act like its any big thing. Sure, its not crack or heroin. But you can still get hooked and you can still become a addict.

You should have never been in jail for a year. No matter what. Weed doesn't kill anyone. Unlike Alcohol. I hate when people act like Alcohol isn't a drug... They say they "drink"... I don't use drugs, I "drink"... Fuck we all drink! water.. Its not like your drinking beer to stay alive.

[Kemal]

Sure, legalize it, tax it and regulate it. It's not like it's some great social evil. Just remember that if we do, it's very likely that more people will use it.

[Hate_Breeder]

Originally posted by Kemal
Sure, legalize it, tax it and regulate it. It's not like it's some great social evil. Just remember that if we do, it's very likely that more people will use it.

Is that Cellski in your avatar?

[barbra]

people who put drugs on other people or have their prepubecent children help them out with the pot smoking ritual are trash. Plain and simple. I hope you distanced yourself from that so called friend hellboy because he wasn't a friend. He was a coward and a chump. If he can buy a pound and put it in your car then he can fess up to being the owner. It is federal law, however, in the u.s. that if you are the driver of a vehical then you are responsible for all the vehical's contents.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Kemal
Sure, legalize it, tax it and regulate it. It's not like it's some great social evil. Just remember that if we do, it's very likely that more people will use it.

if more people smoke it and less people drank .. i think the world would be a better place..

[ChEEbA]

...if more people smoke it and less people drank .. i think the world would be a better place..

Well, what are you waiting for?
Blaze up and start the revolution, baby

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by urgeok
if more people smoke it and less people drank .. i think the world would be a better place..

Yeah, but the Girls Gone Wild tapes would suck.

[barbra]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Yeah, but the Girls Gone Wild tapes would suck. or would they? you know they already suck anyhow. if you want girl on girl, rent lesbian lick o thon

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by barbra
or would they? you know they already suck anyhow. if you want girl on girl, rent lesbian lick o thon

I want drunk girls acting stupid. Yeah they suck, but it would suck even more to watch a bunch of stoned girls falling asleep.

[barbra]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I want drunk girls acting stupid. Yeah they suck, but it would suck even more to watch a bunch of stoned girls falling asleep. I can get that any time I go to a bar, You should move to a touristy beach town. Although they are all brainless sacks of soft, yet firm flesh. They go crazy and give sloppy head, but if you like compairing areolas then its the place for you ;)

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by barbra
if you like compairing areolas then its the place for you ;)

That I do.

[barbra]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
That I do. see how easy it is to combine boobs and pot, you should really rethink your previous statement ;)

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by barbra
see how easy it is to combine boobs and pot, you should really rethink your previous statement ;)

I don't rethink anything. Whatever I think the first time is the right thing... that's why everybody calls me self-righteous.

[barbra]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I don't rethink anything. Whatever I think the first time is the right thing... that's why everybody calls me self-righteous. you're gonna have a hard time in life

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by barbra
you're gonna have a hard time in life

No I won't, I'm gonna have a great time where nothing bad ever happens.

[ChEEbA]

I'd simply prefer
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/629/

[barbra]

Originally posted by ChEEbA
I'd simply prefer
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/629/ that was taking my poor puter way too long, could you give me a summary?

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by barbra
that was taking my poor puter way too long, could you give me a summary?

2 gals slap each other for 5 grand

[barbra]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
2 gals slap each other for 5 grand on the ass in a thong or what?

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by barbra
on the ass in a thong or what?

In the face... over and over and over

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by hellboy
GODDAMN!!!!!!! Queens took that one with every smack!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She made me proud to be a New Yorker!!!![/SIZE]

So... all it takes to make you proud of your home town is a chickfight?