View Full Version : Suspending your disbelief
urgeok
05-02-2005, 04:58 AM
There are very few horror movies that would work if people behaved normally, and the laws of nature weren't blatantly ignored.
Where i can appreciate these re. understanding why they are
neccessary it still makes me appreciate the movies that pay a bit of attention to reality. Most of these movies would end in the 1st 10 minutes because they just arent smart enough to survive without liberal amounts of bullshit.
vampires are a pretty good example of what i mean.
1) they are super strong. So what makes them strong ?
there are law of physics and anatomy that determine strength.
They are still flesh and blood .. the same tissues, muscles, etc.
(they bleed when they get cut - you kill them with wood through the heart).
You can make someone appear stronger by cutting off their pain sensors .. but all they are doing is ignoring the body's natural alarm system for impending damage. Sooner or later things break.
2) they can fly ... how ? they get super light ? how do they aim themselves ? How do theyt stop ??
3) they can shape shift. A 150 lb man into a litle bat ?
You cant change density ... if you could it would be a 150 lb bat.
I'be already mentioned a couple of other pet peeves in different threads ...
1) slashers ... the killer that can shuffle faster than a running youth.
2) thrillers ... the evil genious carries out a cat and mouse plan with the police so dependant on the perfection of timing .. and someone smart enought to recognize and solve clues.
In the real world these things wouldn't work.
Here's another ... there is a killer on the loose .. 10 school friends have been slaughtered ... the girl hears a noise outside in the middle of the night but she puts on a robe lying on the bed (who does that ??) and goes out on the porch to look around, leaving the door wide open with plenty of room for a marching brass band to sneak into the house behind her.
I'm probably the only person who thinks about this ever ...
most times i can just sit back and enjoy - but other times i just shake my head wishing for a little common sense .. which to me causes me to buy into the film more .. become more immersed ... therefore its more enjoyable for me
X¤MurderDoll¤X
05-02-2005, 06:12 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
There are very few horror movies that would work if people behaved normally, and the laws of nature weren't blatantly ignored.
Where i can appreciate these re. understanding why they are
neccessary it still makes me appreciate the movies that pay a bit of attention to reality. Most of these movies would end in the 1st 10 minutes because they just arent smart enough to survive without liberal amounts of bullshit.
vampires are a pretty good example of what i mean.
1) they are super strong. So what makes them strong ?
there are law of physics and anatomy that determine strength.
They are still flesh and blood .. the same tissues, muscles, etc.
(they bleed when they get cut - you kill them with wood through the heart).
You can make someone appear stronger by cutting off their pain sensors .. but all they are doing is gnoring the body's natural alarm system for impending damage. Sooner or later things break.
2) they can fly ... how ? they get super light ? how do they aim themselves ? How do theyt stop ??
3) they can shape shift. A 150 lb man into a litle bat ?
You cant change density ... if you could it would be a 150 lb bat.
There are a lot of things in real-life that just don't make sense. If vampires existed, I don't see why they couldn't go against these laws (I mean they're already the freakin undead bam there's one law down...). I have no trouble suspending my disbelief.
urgeok
05-02-2005, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
There are a lot of things in real-life that just don't make sense. If vampires existed, I don't see why they couldn't go against these laws (I mean they're already the freakin undead bam there's one law down...). I have no trouble suspending my disbelief.
re real life .. yeah ,, but i'm talking laws of nature here ..
and yes .. i realize the back from the dead thing ... same as zombies .... i was reserving that one as a given...
but after that there are still thing that 'just happen' that bug me sometimes - not all the time .. depends on my mood and how many dumb things i've seen in a row ..
X¤MurderDoll¤X
05-02-2005, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
re real life .. yeah ,, but i'm talking laws of nature here ..
and yes .. i realize the back from the dead thing ... same as zombies .... i was reserving that one as a given...
but after that there are still thing that 'just happen' that bug me sometimes - not all the time .. depends on my mood and how many dumb things i've seen in a row ..
We don't know whether or not there was a beginning to the universe. How does that make sense? How could there have been a time without it, and if it always existed... There will always be things that don't make sense, not everything fits perfectly into place.
"Monsters" are freaks of nature, an unnatural thing or person that is extremely unusual and not like any other of its type. There's really no reason why they couldn't fly, teleport etc. A Vampires very existence goes against nature.
I usually just go with the flow.Especially concerning horror or sci-fi movies.Crime or thrillers, on the other hand, can be a bit unbelievable.Certain plot devices are a bit more far-fetched.
urgeok
05-02-2005, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
We don't know whether or not there was a beginning to the universe. How does that make sense? How could there have been a time without it, and if it always existed... There will always be things that don't make sense, not everything fits perfectly into place.
"Monsters" are freaks of nature, an unnatural thing or person that is extremely unusual and not like any other of its type. There's really no reason why they couldn't fly, teleport etc. A Vampires very existence goes against nature.
hard to argue that logic ..
i guess its just a goofy thing on my part ..
ok .. forget vampires then and tell me this ..
why do cars never start when you're being chased by a killer ..
and HOW does Jason keep catching up to people who run ??
Originally posted by urgeok
and HOW does Jason keep catching up to people who run ??
http://www.calskatesacramento.com/malibu.jpg
urgeok
05-02-2005, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by newb
[B]
blading in the woods ?
then he truely does have superpowers !!
Originally posted by urgeok
blading in the woods ?
then he truely does have superpowers !!
How about
http://www.kbtoys.com/g/toys/big/119072a.jpg
urgeok
05-02-2005, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by newb
How about
problematic on soft ground - plus it requires 2 hands.
where is he going to put his machette.,
plus with the bouncing up and down his mask will fall over his eyes and he wont see where he's going.
PLUS the motion is more up and down .. not forward - at least not with any speed.
this wont work at all.
you really didnt think this through did you ...
you were going for a cheap laugh ... well let me tell you mister .. it doesn't work.
now answer the god damn question properly before i loose my temper !!!
SHIT ! you dont see me highjacking other peoples threads with foolish nonsense do you ??
DO YOU ???
I got it
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/TECH/ptech/08/20/segway.arrest/story.segway.cnn.jpg
urgeok
05-02-2005, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by newb
I got it
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/TECH/ptech/08/20/segway.arrest/story.segway.cnn.jpg
NOW yer talkin !
zwoti
05-02-2005, 07:46 AM
http://www.scootersunlimited.us/images/nomad1.jpg
even got a basket to hold his machete
ShankS
05-02-2005, 07:48 AM
...and a trolley for his shopping... or cut off limbs.
X¤MurderDoll¤X
05-02-2005, 07:49 AM
All of you are unoffically banned from my threads. :D
urgeok
05-02-2005, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
http://www.scootersunlimited.us/images/nomad1.jpg
even got a basket to hold his machete
he'll have to wear an old faded baseball cap with a fishing rod company logo on it .. to drive that thing :)
ShankS
05-02-2005, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
All of you are unoffically banned from my threads. :D
zwoti
05-02-2005, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
he'll have to wear an old faded baseball cap with a fishing rod company logo on it .. to drive that thing :)
he won't need to slice anybody up with his machete.......just run them over (if it turns up in jason XX i'm gonna sue)
X¤MurderDoll¤X
05-02-2005, 08:03 AM
I'm still waiting for Jason XxX
http://www.banane.be/pics/news/vin-diesel.jpg
It only makes sense, Vin Diesel is the only person who can physically kill Jason.
urgeok
05-02-2005, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
he won't need to slice anybody up with his machete.......just run them over (if it turns up in jason XX i'm gonna sue)
in jason XX you just see him on the porch sitting on a swing chair - threatening kids who walk on his lawn by waving his machette around weakly ..
urgeok
05-02-2005, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
I'm still waiting for Jason XxX
http://www.banane.be/pics/news/vin-diesel.jpg
It only makes sense, Vin Diesel is the only person who can physically kill Jason.
you're still mad about that Vin Deisel thread of yours arent you ? :p
ShankS
05-02-2005, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
I'm still waiting for Jason XxX
http://www.banane.be/pics/news/vin-diesel.jpg
It only makes sense, Vin Diesel is the only person who can physically kill Jason.
jason has more social skills and sence than Vin :p
urgeok
05-02-2005, 08:11 AM
chicks like guys with skills.
zwoti
05-02-2005, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
chicks like guys with skills.
DAMN IT :p
http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodmag/119/images/drills.jpg
ShankS
05-02-2005, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
chicks like guys with skills.
thats why jason wins every time.
urgeok
05-02-2005, 08:31 AM
the skills to kill for thrills :)
zwoti
05-02-2005, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
the skills to kill for thrills :)
hdc has a new poet laureate
Originally posted by zwoti
hdc has a new poet laureate
Teacher: What have we here, laddie? Mysterious scribblings? A secret code? No! Poems, no less! Poems, everybody!
[class laughs]
Teacher: The laddie reckons himself a poet!
[reads poem]
Teacher: "Money get back / I'm all right, Jack / Keep your hands off my stack / New car / Caviar / Four star daydream / Think I'll buy me a football team." Absolute rubbish, laddie.
[whacks him with a ruler, growls at Pink]
Teacher: Get on with your work.
10 points for the movie.
urgeok
05-02-2005, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by newb
Teacher: What have we here, laddie? Mysterious scribblings? A secret code? No! Poems, no less! Poems, everybody!
[class laughs]
Teacher: The laddie reckons himself a poet!
[reads poem]
Teacher: "Money get back / I'm all right, Jack / Keep your hands off my stack / New car / Caviar / Four star daydream / Think I'll buy me a football team." Absolute rubbish, laddie.
[whacks him with a ruler, growls at Pink]
Teacher: Get on with your work.
10 points for the movie.
duh the wall !
urgeok
05-02-2005, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
hdc has a new poet laureate
well, he is kind of a 'beastie'
Originally posted by urgeok
duh the wall !
NO....its just "The Wall"....no duh....you lose.
urgeok
05-02-2005, 08:50 AM
son of a ................. !!!
zwoti
05-02-2005, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
son of a ................. !!!
talk about being (http://www.answers.com/pedantic&r=67)
http://www.oregoncommentator.com/pedantic.png
ShankS
05-02-2005, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by zwoti
hdc has a new poet laureate
bloodraynes ode's to the n00bs, has some competition now :p
urgeok
05-02-2005, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by ShankS
bloodraynes ode's to the n00bs, has some competition now :p
sure, dont you remember my lovely christmas po-em ? :)
i wonder if i can find it again
urgeok
05-02-2005, 09:26 AM
i found it ! god love ya, search function ...
'twas the night before Christmas,
and all through the forum,
The members were bickering,
As is the decorum.
Pictures were posted
all over the place
of MD's wee head
Adorned with Kpro's wee face
Some members were nestled
all snug in their beds,
With visions of monsters
with multiple heads.
And Rayne in her goth gear
and me in my sweater
sat down to write poems
- the longer the better.
When out on the lawn
there arose such a clatter
I shit in my pants
there was a great splatter!
away through the window
went my head with a crash
I tore open my veins
on a long piece of glass
the moon on the breast
of the newfallen snow
gave the luster of red
from my bleeding, below
when what to my bloodshot
eyes should appear,
but a miniature coffin
and 8 zombie reindeer
there's a creepy old driver
with one hand on his dick
it was a fake vampire
some goth wannabe prick.
more vapid than beagles
his corsette off it came
and he farted and stuttered
and called them by name
Now, Fulchi!, Now Miner,
Now, Soavi! and Argento!
On, Bava!, On,Raimi!
On,Chrononberg and Romero!
From the tips of their toes
To the top of the head
Slice away, Dice away
Make them all dead !
As dry heaves as before
the main vomit fly
When they meet with a chicken bone
mount to the sky.
So up on the housetop
the zombie deer flew
with a coffin full of bodyparts
and that goth poser too
and then in a twinkling
i heard on the roof
the sounds of the zombies
and that 'dressed in black' goof.
As i drew in my head
the glass cutting my feet
down the chimney he came
after beating his meat
he all dressed in retro
from some ancient year
from his doc martin boots
to his fake vampire gear
a pair of glass fangs
he had put in his mouth
he was over compensating
for what he was lacking, down south
His eyes were lacklustre
his pockmarks were many,
he looked haggard and tired,
From not 'getting any'
His narrow little mouth
was drawn up in a sneer
"I'm here for your blood"
I said "how 'bout a beer'?"
His nails were all pointy
and encrusted with grime
he looked like a bum
who had not a dime
A thin ugly pale face
and long stringy black hair
a tattered old cape
and stained underwear
he was sallow and ill
a right pathetic young vamp
i laughed when i saw him,
he looked like a tramp.
when he raised up his cape
and reared back his head
i immediately knew
i had nothing to dread
he looked a bit nervous
but still tried to attack
he got one step closer
before i kicked his nut-sack
he puked and he retched
some escaping his nose
he collapsed into the fireplace
and up the chimney he rose
he stumbled to his coffin
leaving barf in his path
the zombie deer caught a look
and started to laugh
but i heard him exclaim
as his 'sleigh' became free
"Merry Christmas you fucker"
and crashed into a tree.
happy holidays kids !
kind of appropriate today, as there was wet snow mixed in with rain just now :(
How soon we forget.....thats right...I ...newb...fancies himself a poet as well. Remember my reply to Bloodraynes poem.NO......well my fellow poets...your in for a treat.
Bloodrayne's the mother
she keeps us all in line
sometimes I'll act up on purpose
so she'll spank my behind
We've had Gore with his polio
and Evis with Aids
Turns out they both were mistaken
twas attention they craved.
Bodacious loves the big ones
Kpro loves nine9
Fluff used to love VonPokemon
at least when on-line.
Zwoti and Shanks
Are our brothers from the UK
One loves movies
the other drinks all day.
Vod is a site pimp
a better guy you've never met
Cheeba's got a split personality
are you Scared Yet
Urgeok is a noob
and a bit of a post whore
but he's wise and funny
and never a bore
Hatebreeder's a cool kid
as is massacreman and f13fan
Lucky likes her picture
someone please take away the vid-cam
Juanhacko is one of our elders
Drac-in-Dallas is old as hell
filmaker2 is catching up
to the geriatric crowd as well.
We have some real beautys
on this horror forum site
there's Rebel,Fairy,Bloodrayne
and try as I might
I can't fit them all in in one verse
so I'll continue over here
we have Angelkill,Gothic-chic
Orangestar and whats worse
this is the third verse of hot chicks
I know I'm leaving some out
Like Littlemiss,Fluff,Wickedlady and Tachi
Hey, has anybody seen Ginger about.
Haphazard is our HDC clown
Feral and Darkwing never stay
could someone get me an interpreter
what the fuck did Modestas just say
urgeok
05-02-2005, 09:44 AM
god .. Modestas ...
he turned nasty last time ..
Originally posted by urgeok
god .. Modestas ...
he turned nasty last time ..
I kinda allways thought Modesta was another poster using an alias.
urgeok
05-02-2005, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by newb
I kinda allways thought Modesta was another poster using an alias.
i did too at times ...
but if so .. they guy sure held character ... even when he was mad ..
i'm really not sure ..
i thought monster head and that horror webpage were as funny as hell..
X¤MurderDoll¤X
05-02-2005, 11:37 AM
to newb and urgeok
old bags who need to be chucked
you both forgot me
so you can both just get fucked
even though you both make this place worth coming to... ;)
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
to newb and urgeok
old bags who need to be chucked
you both forgot me
so you can both just get fucked
even though you both make this place worth coming to... ;)
These poems were written months before you arrived. We would never forget you.
Might have to revise mine.:)
urgeok
05-02-2005, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
to newb and urgeok
old bags who need to be chucked
you both forgot me
so you can both just get fucked
even though you both make this place worth coming to... ;)
dont diss my bag because its wrinkly
some day your ass will be old and crinkly !
its true right now you're young and hot,
but a day will come when you are not
but until that day could you do me a favour
and post pics of your belly for me to savour :D
hahahahaha,
like the man said .. that was months before you were here.
maybe i should do an ode to the beauties of horror.
massacre man
05-02-2005, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
where is he going to put his machette.,
http://www.ofb.net/~epstein/sl/0403/20040316-butt.jpg
the guy on the right has a pretty good idea
A bit of a revision
Bloodrayne's the mother
she keeps us all in line
sometimes I'll act up on purpose
so she'll spank my behind
We've had Gore with his polio
and Evis with Aids
Turns out they both were mistaken
twas attention they craved.
Zwoti and Shanks
Are our brothers from the UK
One loves movies while the other
keeps us laughing all day.
Vod is a site pimp
a better guy you've never met
AMK'S the moderator
are you Scared Yet
Urgeok was a noob
whos post count was very small
but now he has surpassed kpro
and post the most of all
Hatebreeder's a cool kid
as is massacreman and f13fan
Lucky likes her picture
someone please take away the vid-cam
Juanhacko is one of our elders
Drac-in-Dallas is old as hell
filmaker2 is catching up
to the geriatric crowd as well.
We have some real beautys
on this horror forum site
there's Rebel,Fairy,Bloodrayne
and try as I might
I can't fit them all in in one verse
so I'll continue over here
we have Angelkill,Gothic-chic
Orangestar and whats worse
this is the third verse of hot chicks
I know I'm leaving some out
Like Littlemiss,Fluff,Wickedlady and Tachi
Hey, has anybody seen Ginger about.
A fourth verse for the ladys was needed
to bring us up to date
There's Marroe,Taylorsmommy & Murderdoll
who make us salivate
Haphazard was our HDC clown
Feral and Darkwing never stay
could someone show me the ingnore button
what the fuck did barbra just say
taylorsmommy
05-02-2005, 12:31 PM
That was really good, newb!:D
urgeok
05-02-2005, 12:31 PM
you'll have to change the shanks line too .. he doesnt drink anymore !
urgeok
05-02-2005, 12:53 PM
.
Originally posted by urgeok
you'll have to change the shanks line too .. he doesnt drink anymore !
done
Originally posted by urgeok
.
LOL....thats pretty good...but I always thought of myself as a T-Rex kinda guy.
http://www.globi.ca/images/sc_t-rex.jpg
X¤MurderDoll¤X
05-02-2005, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
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LOL :D