Stupid nazi friends...

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Is it true? Did Hitler pervert national socialism (nazism) to his own personal views? Is there a difference between Hitler nazism and non-Hitler nazism?

I don't know much about pre-Hitler nazism, and I figured we have some smarties in here that might be able to shed some light on this for me.

So what do ya know about National Socialism?

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Here is some info I gathered:


Hitler's National Socialism was founded on Austrian DNSAP(Deutsche Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei)

The National Socialist Program, also referred to as the 25-point program, was developed to formulate the party policies of, first, the Austrian German Workers Party (or DAP) and was copied later by Adolf Hitler's Nazi party. It is an amalgamation of demands that would be typically associated with various different (and antagonistic) political trends. It was first developed in Vienna, at a German Workers Party congress, and was brought to Munich by Rudolf Jung, who was expelled from Czechoslovakia. (1) Josef Pfitzner, a Sudetenland German Nazi author, wrote that "the synthesis of the two great dynamic powers of the century, of the socialist and national idea, had been perfected in the German borderlands [i.e. Sudetenland] which thus were far ahead of their motherland." (2) The National Socialist program also contained a number of points that supported democracy and even called for wider democratic rights. These, like much of the program, lost their importance as the Party evolved, and were ignored by the Nazis after they rose to power.

THE 25 POINT PROGRAM OF
THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKERS' PARTY
(Munich, February 24, 1920)

The program of the German Workers' party is a fixed one. The leaders reject the idea of setting new goals once the initial aims laid down in the program have been achieved, simply in order to prolong the life of the Party by artificially creating unrest among the masses.

1. On the basis of a people's right to self-determination we demand the uniting of the Germans within a Greater Germany.

2. We demand equal status for Germany, vis-a-vis other nations, and the annulling of the Peace Treaties drawn up in Versailles and St. Germain.

3. We demand land and property (colonies) to provide food for our nation and settlement areas for our surplus population.

4. Only a German can have the right of citizenship. A Volksgenosse can only be a person who has German parents, irrespective of religion.

5. Those people who have no citizenship rights can only be considered as guests in Germany and must be subject to laws concerning foreigners.

6. Only citizens should have the right to decide the leadership and laws of the state. Therefore, we demand that only those with citizenship rights should be eligible to serve in a public office, whether this be at national, Länder or local level. We oppose the corrupt parliamentary system in which people are employed only on the basis of the political party to which they belong and not according to their character or ability.

7. We demand that the first priority of the state should be to ensure that its citizens have work and decent living conditions. Where it is not possible to feed all the citizens of the state, foreign nationals (who have no citizenship rights) should be repatriated.

8. Further immigration of non-Germans must be halted. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered the Reich since 2 August 1914, be forced to leave the country immediately.

9. All citizens must have the same rights and obligations.

10. The first duty of all Volksgenossen must be to work, either manually or with the mind. The actions of an individual must not be against the general good but must be in accord with it.

THEREFORE, WE DEMAND

11. The abolition of unearned income.

THE DESTRUCTION OF THE DOMINANCE OF INVESTED CAPITAL

12. Because wars demand of the people great physical and personal sacrifice, any personal gain through war must be considered as a crime against the nation.

WE DEMAND, THEREFORE, THE CONFISCATION OF ALL WAR PROFITS.

13. We demand the nationalization of all publicly owned companies (Trusts).

14. We demand profit sharing by all large companies.

15. We demand that generous improvements be made in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the setting up and maintenance of a healthy middle class. The large department stores should be placed immediately under the control of local authorities and should be leased out to small businesses at low rents. Small businesses must have the keenest regard in the matter of deliveries to the state, the Länder or the local authorities.

17. We demand property reform in line with our national requirements and legislation permitting compulsory purchase of property if this is in the national interest. We demand the abolition of ground rents and the banning of property speculation.

18. We demand a ruthless battle against those whose actions damage the national interest. Common criminals, profiteers, racketeers, etc., should suffer capital punishment without distinction of race or religion.

19. We demand the replacement of Roman law, which serves the interests of a material world order, by German Common law.

20. There must be a thorough overhaul of the state education system in order that every capable and diligent German receives a good education, enabling them to obtain leading positions of employment. The curricula of all educational establishments must adapt to practical requirements. We must seek to instill national ideas from the earliest school age (lessons in citizenship). We demand that talented children of poor parents should receive state support irrespective of class or employment.

21. The state must ensure the general good health of its citizens by providing for mothers and children, by banning child labor, by ensuring physical fitness through a legal obligation to participate in sport or gymnastics and by giving support to associations involved in those fields.

22. We demand the abolition of the mercenary army and its replacement by a national army of the people.

23. We demand legal action against public political slander and libel in the Press. In order to establish a German press we demand, that:

(a) Newspaper editors and employees whose work appears in German must be Volksgenossen.

(b) Non-German newspapers must be authorized by the state before they can appear in Germany. They must not be in the German language.

(c) Foreign finance to subsidize German newspapers and foreign influence must be forbidden by law. Contravention

of the above should lead to the closing of the newspaper in question and together with the immediate expulsion from the Reich of those non-Germans involved.

(d) Newspapers which are deemed to be against the common good should be banned. We demand legal action against any art and literature which exerts a harmful influence on public life and demand the closing of all institutions which contravene the above named standards.

24. We demand religious freedom throughout the Reich so long as it does not endanger the position of the state or adversely affect the moral standards of the German race. As such the Party represents a positively Christian position without binding itself to one particular Faith. The Party opposes the materialistic, Jewish spirit within and beyond us and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our people can only be achieved on the basis of:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE PERSONAL GAIN

25. In order to achieve this we demand the setting up of a strong, central administration for the Reich.We demand unlimited authority for a central, national parliament and its organizations. We demand the establishment of
professional and industrial bodies to assist in implementing national laws throughout the Länder (states).

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

In the beginning of 1918, a party called the Freier Ausschuss für einen deutschen Arbeiterfrieden (Free Committee for a German Workers' Peace) was created in Bremen, Germany. In 1919, they changed its name to the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (German Workers' Party). This party is the formal forerunner of the NSDAP, and became one of many völkisch movements that existed in Germany after its defeat in World War I. In order to investigate the DAP, German army intelligence sent a young corporal, Adolf Hitler, to monitor party activities. However, he was impressed by what he saw, and he joined as Member Number 555 (although Hitler later claimed to be "Party Member number 7" to make it look like he was a founder). He in fact was the 7th member of the DAP's central committee. At this early stage, Hitler brought up the idea of renaming the party, and he proposed the name "Social Revolutionary Party" (4). However, Rudolf Jung insisted that the party should follow the pattern of Austria's Deutsche Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei. As a consequence, the DAP was shortly renamed the NSDAP on February 24, 1920.Adolf Hitler became Nazi Party chairman on July 29, 1921 and at once began a program where the Nazi Party became a radical and revolutionary organization. The Sturmabteilung (storm troopers) was founded that same year and began a policy of expanding the Nazi Party by way of fear, intimidation, and violent attacks on other political parties.

In these early years, the Nazi Party was confined mainly to Bavaria in the city of Munich. Splinter Nazi groups did exist elsewhere in Germany, however the programs and agendas were such that, even among the Nazis, such extra-Bavarian

Nazi groups were considered separate from the main Nazi Party as a whole.Disaster presented itself in 1923 when the Nazi Party attempted to seize control of the Bavarian government in the so

called "Beer Hall Putsch". The two day revolution was crushed by Munich authorities and several Nazis were killed in the process. Hitler and his top Nazi advisors were tried and convicted of treason. Sentences ranged from 12-18 months with Hitler serving his term at Landsberg prison. During this period, from 1923 to 1925, the Nazi Party ceased to exist. However, Hitler would spent the time writing Mein Kampf, detailing how he would accomplish a political comeback
once he was released from prison.
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Upon Adolf Hitler's release from prison in 1925, the NSDAP was refounded with Hitler taking Party membership number 1. That same year, the Schutzstaffel (SS) was founded. The evolution of the party, during this era, is an integral part of the decline of the Weimar State.

The second Nazi Party saw Gottfried Feder as economic theoretician and Rudolf Jung supplied the reborn Nazi Party with a ready-made ideology that he carried with him from Czechoslovakia. It was the 25-point program. Hitler added his ideas about foreign policy and Julius Streicher added his more virulent anti-Semitic views.

Between 1925 and 1929, the Nazis competed poorly in elections. In the election of 1930, however, the Nazis (propelled by Germany's economic problems in the incipient Great Depression) increased their vote dramatically, becoming the second largest party in the Reichstag. The NSDAP continued to improve its position in the years thereafter, despite a brief ban in 1932 of the SA (the party's private army), and in the elections of 1932 the party reached a total of 13.75 million votes and became the largest voting bloc in the Reichstag.

[The STE]

I think we're all pretty much tired of any nazi shit around here

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

The amount of words intimidate ya huh? I don't agree with nationalism anyway, I just would like to know more about it pre- jew burning.

[ItsAlive75]

hahaha

You researched nazis.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

I have a speech to do for class and I want it to be interesting... ;)

Maybe I should just do the nazi salute and shout seig heil until I get thrown out of class.

I'm convinced we have some smart people that actually went to school in here.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
I have a speech to do for class and I want it to be interesting... ;)

Do it with a fake Hitler moustache in magic marker...


Then at the end, just punch some kid in the face.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Do it with a fake Hitler moustache in magic marker...


Then at the end, just punch some kid in the face.

haha or the swastika on my forehead Charles Manson style maybe?

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
haha or the swastika on my forehead Charles Manson style maybe?


....and then punch some kid in the face.


Basically I'm lookin' for child-punching here.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
....and then punch some kid in the face.


Basically I'm lookin' for child-punching here.

Oh yeah. I know just the one, she doesn't shut up ever. :cool: and she's black so it goes with the whole racist thang. ;)

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Oh yeah. I know just the one, she doesn't shut up ever. :cool: and she's black so it goes with the whole racist thang. ;)

YES!!!!! hahahaha

WOW that was racist but I'm lettin' it slide cuz the Cubs won today.

If it's a girl you have to open hand slap em' by the way.

[HappyCamper]

I've done some research into my family ancenstry, and apparently one of my great great uncles was a high ranking SS Officer.

[virus five]

Interesting reading.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

is that the new version of tl;dr or are you being serious? :p

[HappyCamper]

i'm dead serious

[Hate_Breeder]

Originally posted by virus five
Interesting reading.

What the fuck?

[virus five]

Originally posted by Hate_Breeder
What the fuck?

I meant that it was informative and kept me interested.

If you construed my statement to mean that I condone Nazi belief, fascism, or racism, I apologize. I tolerate none of the aforementioned ideologies and/or behaviors.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally posted by virus five
I meant that it was informative and kept me interested.

If you construed my statement to mean that I condone Nazi belief, fascism, or racism, I apologize. I tolerate none of the aforementioned ideologies and/or behaviors.

I think it's interesting that originally nazism didn't involve racism. Atleast that's what I got from it.

Fun Fact: Hitler's mother wanted to have an abortion, but her jewish doctor convinced her not to. Oh, the delicious ironing...

[wufong]

if the nazis weren't so racist and weren't so intent on ruling the world...they would have been quiet benifical for germany..
but hitler was a retarded speed freak, who thought that keeping gold fish in a small round fish tank was so cruel he out lawed it.. but on the other hand thought there was nothing bad about killing a child and making a book cover out of its skin just because it was'nt the same race as him. they were all just inbred idiots. im glad russia kicked their arse's.

[virus five]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
I think it's interesting that originally nazism didn't involve racism. Atleast that's what I got from it.


I dunno.

The Party opposes the materialistic, Jewish spirit within and beyond us and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our people can only be achieved on the basis of:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE PERSONAL GAIN

[ShankS]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
I have a speech to do for class and I want it to be interesting... ;)

Maybe I should just do the nazi salute and shout seig heil until I get thrown out of class.

I'm convinced we have some smart people that actually went to school in here.

this kid'll help you with your speech...

[zwoti]

but he knew how to dance

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/zwoti/avatar/rave-hitler3.gif

[Sedated_replica]

I'll make this quick and simple.

Fuck Nazi's. They're not cool. Fuck Nationalism, its horrible

I fucking hate Nazi's. Its sick. Anyone that believes in the nazi's, doesn't know anyone other than white.

I'll wanna spit in the face of any stupid skin head.

[Rufus]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Oh, the delicious ironing...



That Hitler could iron like a mother fucker.

[urgeok]

Its like communism ... a great idea in part .. but something that got twisted in the hands of the people who imposed it.
Like most religions, like major companies, like anything.

Power corrupts - always will.

[The STE]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
The amount of words intimidate ya huh?

You clearly weren't here during the bulk of the Darth Bane fiasco

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by urgeok
Its like communism ... a great idea in part .. but something that got twisted in the hands of the people who imposed it.
Like most religions, like major companies, like anything.

Power corrupts - always will.

The old saying, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" wasn't just said for the hell of it.

[ThisThreadSucks]

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[8-Bit BlackMage]

Originally posted by wufong
if the nazis weren't so racist and weren't so intent on ruling the world...they would have been quiet benifical for germany..
but hitler was a retarded speed freak, who thought that keeping gold fish in a small round fish tank was so cruel he out lawed it.. but on the other hand thought there was nothing bad about killing a child and making a book cover out of its skin just because it was'nt the same race as him. they were all just inbred idiots. im glad russia kicked their arse's.


You forget that the Nazis were beneficial for Germany. Nevermind the recognition Germany got, and the fact that Hitler nearly led the fatherland to world domination. Spare that.

Hitler wasn't just racist, he was under the impression that Aryans were the perfect race. He was more hostile than most believers. Yeah, that's pretty fuckin' true. It's not just because they weren't the same race as him... it's because they weren't of the chosen race. Small difference, a little subtle but it's still there. It's evil in the sense from public perspective, but Hell, from the new bloodline Aryans, it's all peppermints and pussy.

And I'm sure Germany's glad they kicked most of Europe's arse, sans Western shore and Russia.

[EXTR3MIST]

Right now, The Pope is giving Hitler a right dressing down (if The Pope went to heaven, or Hitler went to hell that is).

[I,ZOMBIE]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Do it with a fake Hitler moustache in magic marker...


Then at the end, just punch some kid in the face.
oh man, that reminds me of this one time me and my ex got ahold of some old ww2 clothes and had a closed set porn in my bedroom. she was hitler and i was a soldier. hahahahahaha! theres something too funny about a tiny little 5 foot tall girl in a uniform and hitler mustache all doggy styled. hahaha! i wish i had that on tape.

oh and she did punch me in the head. and i had an old ww2 tank commander helmet on and she busted her hand up on it (they're like sandpaper).

good times good times.

[ShankS]

Originally posted by I,ZOMBIE
oh man, that reminds me of this one time me and my ex got ahold of some old ww2 clothes and had a closed set porn in my bedroom. she was hitler and i was a soldier. hahahahahaha! theres something too funny about a tiny little 5 foot tall girl in a uniform and hitler mustache all doggy styled. hahaha! i wish i had that on tape.

oh and she did punch me in the head. and i had an old ww2 tank commander helmet on and she busted her hand up on it (they're like sandpaper).

good times good times.

that sounds homo erotic, getting your girl to dress up all manly.

[urgeok]

dear penthouse ..

you probably wont believe this but me and my two buddies were lounging in the hottub when these 3 beautiful babes came to the door ......

[ShankS]

dirty old bugger subscribes to penthouse :p

[I,ZOMBIE]

Originally posted by ShankS
that sounds homo erotic, getting your girl to dress up all manly.

i don't know... if you saw this girl you know it was not homo erotic. just like some thing i always wanted to do was bang a girl dressed up as hitler. i'm not racist or anything, its just some weird thing i guess. i don't think i have a "normal" sexual relationship in years. they've all been like "choke me, spank me, cut me drink my blood" haha so for me to be like. "hey heres a nazi uniform and i am in an american uniform, lets shag, its all sort of like some big play on history. like if i were to get dressed up as a roman, go vomit at the vomitorium and hit her up with some ggreek, something would be funny about that as well. but as far as the homo erotic... nah man, not this guy.

[sweet4dnb]

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