Last House On The Left

[rubenmania]

This is the 1st time I have seen this movie. Its about 2 girls going to a concert in New York, but before they make it their they try to score some weed. But they dont realize that the guy they are asking is the brother of one of the 2 escaped convicts who broke out of prison earlier that day. Well, anyways they go up to his apartment and the so called torture starts. I wont leak out anymore info just incase you want to view this movie.
Its kinda slow. Not much gore. Some blood here & their.
3/10 score
Worth a rental
I wouldnt watch it again
Remember what I like or dislike, you might or might not!

[Gore fest gerb]

Ispit on your grave was a lot better......

[MichaelMyers]

No way, classic movie. Revolutionary for its time.

[Sam The Egg]

not much gore? Yeah...you probably saw the edited version. Get the uncut theatrical release. Krug carves his name into that one chick's chest, and they disembowel the other one.

[SFF]

Originally posted by rubenmania
This is the 1st time I have seen this movie. Its about 2 girls going to a concert in New York, but before they make it their they try to score some weed. But they dont realize that the guy they are asking is the brother of one of the 2 escaped convicts who broke out of prison earlier that day. Well, anyways they go up to his apartment and the so called torture starts. I wont leak out anymore info just incase you want to view this movie.
Its kinda slow. Not much gore. Some blood here & their.
3/10 score
Worth a rental
I wouldnt watch it again
Remember what I like or dislike, you might or might not!

Uh, what I am trying to figure out is WHY you are describing a movie which almost EVERYONE has seen? You sound just like that one idiot who waltzed in here and started "informing" people what the motivation was behind The Exorcist. All I have to say is NO SHIT! It was made in 1972? REALLY? Ya' think? There was no remake, ya know. It was made over 30 years ago, everybody already fucking knows what it is, what it's about and when it was made!!! So STFU!!!!!! This is a fucking horror forum, for God's sake. It's not like your telling anybody anything that they don't already know. DUH FUCKING DUH!!!!!

Geeeeeez Where do these cocksuckers come from?

[Sam The Egg]

Portland, Oregon

[SFF]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Portland, Oregon

Well, remind me never to go on vacation there. LOL

[McDonnyDude666]

Originally posted by SFF
Uh, what I am trying to figure out is WHY you are describing a movie which almost EVERYONE has seen? You sound just like that one idiot who waltzed in here and started "informing" people what the motivation was behind The Exorcist. All I have to say is NO SHIT! It was made in 1972? REALLY? Ya' think? There was no remake, ya know. It was made over 30 years ago, everybody already fucking knows what it is, what it's about and when it was made!!! So STFU!!!!!! This is a fucking horror forum, for God's sake. It's not like your telling anybody anything that they don't already know. DUH FUCKING DUH!!!!!

Geeeeeez Where do these cocksuckers come from?

I havent seen it, and rubenmania was just reviewing the movie, when most people review movies they explain what happens.Look at http://www.houseofhorrors.com thats a great horror site with horror reviews and they tell you they basic story of the horror movies they review because that what alot of people like to know, what the movie is about to see if it would interest them.

[Gore fest gerb]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
not much gore? Yeah...you probably saw the edited version. Get the uncut theatrical release. Krug carves his name into that one chick's chest, and they disembowel the other one. I have the full version of the last house but I liked I spit better I'm not sayin the last house is crap but come on the dick was bad enought.....

[McDonnyDude666]

I havent seen Last House on the Left or I Spit on Your Grave,ARGH i want to see them.

[zwoti]

Originally posted by McDonnyDude666
I havent seen Last House on the Left or I Spit on Your Grave,ARGH i want to see them.

well don't watch the uk version, they are both cut.

[Vodstok]

I personally think they both sucked. They also lose their shock value after the first viewing.

Sleepaway camp, however, always freaks me out at the end.

[Gore fest gerb]

Originally posted by zwoti
well don't watch the uk version, they are both cut. Only get gore dvds on inport don't trust the bbfc thay suck

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by Gore fest gerb
I have the full version of the last house but I liked I spit better I'm not sayin the last house is crap but come on the dick was bad enought.....

The dick in which one?

[Gore fest gerb]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
The dick in which one? I spit on your grave

[massacre man]

it was ok


P.S i changed my signature that would be a funny movie

[KRUGERKID13]

I absoloutly loved last house. for the longest time i thought that tcm was the first to push the boundary but then i saw last house and i was shocked on how realistic it was it definetly gave me a new respect for craven

[Sam The Egg]

I was surprised that Ebert gave it a near perfect score (Btw, if anybody can find his review of it, you'll get 80 cookes). That's why I kinda tend to not take "OMG Ebert hates horror he sucks!" stuff seriously. I think he was the only one who gave it a good review period, too. I think they said there were like 2 good reviews of it.

[Ritualistic]

Krug and Co. is great... anyone who watches this movie needs to see the uncut version..

[SFF]

Well, I saw the uncut version and it is still a lame movie IMO. The corny music just ruined it for me, along with the "Mayberry-ish" policemen.

[Sam The Egg]

yeah, it would've been better without the comic relief. But no movie is perfect. (Except Memento, Godfather, 12 Angry Men, Casablanca and Taxi Driver of course)

[Gore fest gerb]

I wounder what happend to the mother and father when the copper walked in and found him with the chainsaw, did have the chair or did he turn a blind eye...

[troymello]

Overall, I think I like "I Spit..." much better. I can't put my finger on why exactly I think so. Perhaps it was the location and overall look of the film. Not sure.

However, "Last House..." had a better revenge (IMO, of course). Now, it was not as creative, but I think it was more satisfying. My guts were churning when the parents invited the killers into their house as GUESTS!!! It was soooo satisfying when they realized who the guests were and then they... well... you know!

[XFeaRX]

Originally posted by SFF
Uh, what I am trying to figure out is WHY you are describing a movie which almost EVERYONE has seen? You sound just like that one idiot who waltzed in here and started "informing" people what the motivation was behind The Exorcist. All I have to say is NO SHIT! It was made in 1972? REALLY? Ya' think? There was no remake, ya know. It was made over 30 years ago, everybody already fucking knows what it is, what it's about and when it was made!!! So STFU!!!!!! This is a fucking horror forum, for God's sake. It's not like your telling anybody anything that they don't already know. DUH FUCKING DUH!!!!!

Geeeeeez Where do these cocksuckers come from?

I was the one who talked about the Exorcist thing. ;)

Hey, you called me an idiot! :mad:

And you called me a cocksucker!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[SFF]

Originally posted by XFeaRX
I was the one who talked about the Exorcist thing. ;)

Hey, you called me an idiot! :mad:

And you called me a cocksucker!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


Oh, that was you? That was a really lame thread, by the way.


EDIT: That wasn't you. I just checked and it was created by some shithead named "boobmop." I was talking about The Exorcist thread in THIS forum, not the general area.

[Sam The Egg]

I think the revenge in Last House was earned more than in I Spit. Granted, whether or not it was earned is beside the point of the revenge horror genre entirely, but it's at least somewhat of a factor

[SFF]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
I think the revenge in Last House was earned more than in I Spit. Granted, whether or not it was earned is beside the point of the revenge horror genre entirely, but it's at least somewhat of a factor

I prefer Spit. I don't know, Last House just never appealed to me. I have tried many times, to watch it and understand why some people think it's so great. It was one of those movies that I had heard a whole lot about, especially from my Mother; she went to see it at the theater when it first came out. Anyhow, there was this huge buildup of how "awful" and "shocking" it was, but when I saw it, I had to do my best to keep from laughing at the general stupidity of the film. Bad acting and worse music. It just will never be my cup of tea. I think Spit was far more entertaining and, dare I say it, more realistic.

[HappyCamper]

I just watched 'Last House on the Left' for the first time. Now from what I've read this is the film, where you're supposedly telling yourself 'it's only a movie, it's only a movie'. WTF? Where's the gore? Where's the startling ending?

IMO this movie sucked

[Oats]

the movie was decent, why should there be a startling ending? and why does a horror flick necessarily have to have gore? as long as the story is well written and paced its good enough

[KRUGERKID13]

excellent movie and very underrated. Deserves far more credit then it receives.

[Oats]

i liked at the end this "horror" flick as the credits rolled they played this happy fun-time music, that amused me, im easily amused

[movieman64]

I think when you consider the time period, (early 70's) it was pretty gory. I read an interview with Wes Craven were he said they used pig intestines for the special effects. I also think the psychological aspect, (abduction,confinement,murder) was pretty relevant to society's fears at that time, Manson murders etc...

As far as good or bad. It was OK, if you are a Wes Craven fan you should make a point to see it.

[MichaelMyers]

I liked the Keystone-esque Cops.

[tachii]

i thought it was a fairly good movie although i spit on your grave was much harsh and better recieved than last house on the left

[Sam The Egg]

Well, if nothing else it's the only 70's revenge horror pic to actually be GOOD (you know, by movie standards instead of geek-show standards). Also, it depends on what cut you get. If you get the good one, then you get to see them disembowel Phyllis, and Krug carves his name into Mari's chest (Which, for some reason, is just so awesome. It's probably one of my favorite villainous acts ever. Another great one is him yelling at his kid until he killed himself. Briliant.). As far as shocking endings go, horror movies USUALLY had happier endings. And if they didn't, it was more "monster comes back and/or kills hero in the end" type unhappy. This was a whole new type of unhappy. The killers didn't come back to life or kill the girls then the parents. The parents went nuts and maimed, electricuted, slashed, fellated, shot at, and castrated them, and ends at the exact second the weight of what they did hits them. It's nothing new now, but give them some credit, at least, because they didn't do it because it was expected of the genre or anything.

[hellfire1]

i saw the movie not too long ago, and given all the hype around it, was expecting a whole lot. "i spit on your grave" was more in your face, gratuitous violence, really aiming at just shocking the hell out of people. with "last house on the left", it's a bit more subtle, for lack of another word, but a whole lot more perverse. that scene that sam mentioned with krug yelling at his son to kill himself is really intense, and when he orders the girl to piss oh herself... really quite twisted. and the cheery music throughput the film just makes it even more twisted. so imo, it's a must see. not great, but a good movie nonetheless.

[Sam The Egg]

Plus, Last House has something no other revenge movie has: Krug. Krug was the shit. From what I've seen of them, revenge movies usually concentrate on the person getting the revenge so the villain usually is pretty basic. Rape, beat, kill, immasculation, death, credits. Wes actually made Krug a GREAT movie villain, one that will unfortunately always be overlooked because of the nature of the movie

[Sam The Egg]

on the new site, Ebert has a great review of the movie.

LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT is a tough, bitter little sleeper of a movie that's about four times as good as you'd expect. There is a moment of such sheer and unexpected terror that it beats anything in the heart-in-the-mouth line since Alan Arkin jumped out of the darkness at Audrey Hepburn in WAIT UNTIL DARK.
I don't want to give the impression, however, that this is simply a good horror movie. It's horrifying, all right, but in ways that have nothing to do with the supernatural. It's the story of two suburban girls who go into the city for a rock concert, are kidnapped by a gang of sadistic escaped convicts and their sluttish girlfriend, and are raped and murdered. Then, in a coincidence even the killers find extreme, the gang ends up spending the night at the home of one of the girls' parents.
The parents accidentally find out the identities of the killers, because of a stolen locket and some blood-stained clothing in their baggage. Enraged, the father takes on the gang single-handedly and murders them. Does any of this sound familiar? Think for a moment. Setting aside the modern details, this is roughly the plot of Ingmar Bergman's THE VIRGIN SPRING.
The story is also based on a true incident, we're told at the beginning of the movie, but I have my doubts; I think the producers may simply be trying one of those "only the names have been changed" capers. What does come through in LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT is a powerful narrative, told so directly and strongly that the audience (mostly in the mood for just another good old exploitation film) was rocked back on its psychic heels.
Wes Craven's direction never lets us out from under almost unbearable dramatic tension (except in some silly scenes involving a couple of dumb cops, who overact and seriously affect the plot's credibility). The acting is unmannered and É natural, I guess. There's no posturing. There's a good ear for dialogue and nuance. And there is evil in this movie. Not bloody escapism, or a thrill a minute, but a fully developed sense of the vicious natures of the killers. There is no glory in this violence. And Craven has written in a young member of the gang (again borrowed on Bergman's story) who sees the horror as fully as the victims do. This movie covers the same philosophical territory as Sam Peckinpah's STRAW DOGS, and is more hard-nosed about it: Sure, a man's home is his castle, but who wants to be left with nothing but a castle and a lifetime memory of horror?

[IDrinkYourBlood]

i liked this movie, not as good as i spit on your grave which has to be the best exploitation movie ever

[FreddyC.Krueger]

Originally posted by KRUGERKID13
excellent movie and very underrated. Deserves far more credit then it receives. Agreed. Another good movie is The Hills Have Eyes. It was kinda stupid in the ending. But still a decent film. A real classic. Remember throught all the years of Horror.

[HappyCamper]

I guess, I was just expecting this movie to be super scary and super gorey, which was the primary reason, I didn't care for it. Mostly cause of the 'it's only a movie, it's only a movie!' But I'll definitely give it a second chance. Yeah I agree the scene with the guy yelling at his kid to kill himself that was pretty fucked up. nd it did have some good scenes.

I must have not watched the best version available either, cause I don't remember seeing the scene with the guy carving anything into the girls chest.

[thepsychicfetus]

Although i like my share of gore and "scary moments", i do like a good movie that will creep me out. a movie that isnt necessarily horrific, but just something thats pyschologically creepy. there was an old movie, i forget the name, but the woman is blind and alone and theres an intruder so she smashes all the lights in the house to be on the same terms with the guy. it was a really good "old" movie.

[IDrinkYourBlood]

Originally posted by thepsychicfetus
Although i like my share of gore and "scary moments", i do like a good movie that will creep me out. a movie that isnt necessarily horrific, but just something thats pyschologically creepy. there was an old movie, i forget the name, but the woman is blind and alone and theres an intruder so she smashes all the lights in the house to be on the same terms with the guy. it was a really good "old" movie.
i remeber this movie, it was awsome.

[thepsychicfetus]

ya, it was good, the only light she forgot about was the fridge light. i remember that too

[meetthecreeper]

I enjoyed the film, quite disturbing for the time period that it came out in. I dont necessarily think that gore has to be first on the list when it comes to horror. And the guy yelling at his brother until he kills himself was interesting. If you have ever been in an dysfunctional family you can almost relate to the insanity that was going on there.

[HappyCamper]

I basically was expecting it, to be 'scary' not just 'psychologically creepy'. But I'm definitely going to give it another chance.

[Sam The Egg]

Originally posted by thepsychicfetus
Although i like my share of gore and "scary moments", i do like a good movie that will creep me out. a movie that isnt necessarily horrific, but just something thats pyschologically creepy. there was an old movie, i forget the name, but the woman is blind and alone and theres an intruder so she smashes all the lights in the house to be on the same terms with the guy. it was a really good "old" movie.

Wait Until Dark

[The Mothman]

I just bought this film, and is was pretty disturbing. although I loved the ending with the chainsaw and all that.
waht r ur opinions on this film?

[lee challenger]

I managed to get an uncut copy of this movie back in the eighties just after the UK went barmy and started banning the so called "video nasties". You're right, it is pretty disturbing especially considering it was made in the early seventies and the subject matter was fairly taboo.
It has been re-released in the UK but I've read that it has been cut so I don't know how that has affected the strength of the film.
I have noticed the DVD packaging though and is very misleading to anyone who doesn't know about the film.
So basically if you don't like violence,degradation of women and low budget exploitation then you need to avoid this film.
For information this film was based on a 1950's Swedish production entitled The Virgin Spring set in medievel days and is a very good film,again considering the time it was made.

[Sedated_replica]

Wes's best film... he only has two good films. "Hills have eyes" And "Last House"

[ShankS]

I got the cut version ages ago, was cheap, about $7 and to be honest I wasn't all that impressed, I don't know why, just found it dragging on. I've watched it 2 or 3 times to see If I'd start to like it, but to no avail. Maybe the uncut version is the one I should see.... was it cut by much?

[IDrinkYourBlood]

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
Wes's best film... he only has two good films. "Hills have eyes" And "Last House" true that. everything else he does just sucks.

[EXTR3MIST]

There are several versions of this film knocking about worldwide - the old Japanese laser release was considered definitive (with more of the infamous disembowelment than any other release), but as far as I know the recent French and USA unrated DVDs are the full enchilada too.

The recent UK version is several minutes shorter than the definitive cut (or even the old, incomplete UK pre-VRA release) - tampered scenes include the aforementioned disembowelling and name-carving bits.

You might be able to work around this censorship while watching this version, but to me it seems akin to drinking Diet Coke or eating a Weight-Watchers' Chicken Korma ready-meal (which I have just finished, and was bloody disgusting).

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
Wes's best film... he only has two good films. "Hills have eyes" And "Last House"

You dont like Nightmare on Elm Street?

I have a very split opinion of ol' Wes...Ive seen two of his movies...one was great, the other was the biggest pile of rotton shit Ive ever seen. Nightmare on Elm Street [Great!] and Chiller [I really cant describe how bad this movie is...]

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by The_Return
You dont like Nightmare on Elm Street?

I have a very split opinion of ol' Wes...Ive seen two of his movies...one was great, the other was the biggest pile of rotton shit Ive ever seen. Nightmare on Elm Street [Great!] and Chiller [I really cant describe how bad this movie is...]

Nightmare on Elm Street was the start of his downfall. You can tell a Wes Craven film because it always contains the phrase "hip young cast"

[Sedated_replica]

Agreed. Elm Street is okay at best.

Its the start to his "Teen" horror movies. Just so he gets a good crowd to come see his movie.

Cursed looks awful. "They" was horrible. Scream was okay, Scream 2 or 3 were awful.

Last House was good which is rare for a Wes movie

[ItsAlive75]

I don't get why they call this guy the "Master of Horror". Is it because he did so many movies?

That's like if I eat four boxes of crackers, I'd be the "Master of Crackers".

[Sedated_replica]

No.... it just makes you a "Cracker"

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
No.... it just makes you a "Cracker"

Well I'm still callin' myself Master of Crackers

[Sedated_replica]

Hahaha, thats funny shit.

Well then I'm the master of Cheese Wiz!

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
Hahaha, thats funny shit.

Well then I'm the master of Cheese Wiz!

Does... does this mean we have to do battle or something?

[Sedated_replica]

Daniel Son.... You aren't ready for the battle of "Snacks" food.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
Daniel Son.... You aren't ready for the battle of "Snacks" food.

Maybe one day....





One day...

[The Mothman]

Originally posted by Sedated_replica
Wes's best film... he only has two good films. "Hills have eyes" And "Last House"
what is "The Hills Have Eyes" about?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I don't get why they call this guy the "Master of Horror". Is it because he did so many movies?

That's like if I eat four boxes of crackers, I'd be the "Master of Crackers".


King
Carpenter
Barker
Raimi

they've all been called ''Master of Horror'' at some point.

I think it's appropriate to call Wes the Master of modern horror which is what he's refered to as most of the time because whether you like it or not all the Nightmare on Elm Street and Scream films have done well.

[Tat2]

I first saw this movie when it was originally released at a drive in and it left a lasting impression on me! I was only 10 yrs. old and I have never forgotten it. Not that it scared me but it, for the time was very gory. I purchased it on VHS as soon as it came out on it, and I resently got it on DVD in a collection.

It is a must have movie for anyones collection!

[ownaGe]

A Nightmare On Elm St is an awesome movie, he also made the third movie of a series of 7.

All the rest were crap except the ones he had something to do with.

After the Scream series it went downhill, Scream gave the horror industry new life for fucks sake.

Yes I admit what he has been making the past few years is crap though.;)

[Sedated_replica]

Originally posted by ownaGe
After the Scream series it went downhill, Scream gave the horror industry new life for fucks sake.

I guess if you like teen horror movies

[excelsior]

Scream's reflexivity was surely a landmark for the genre. and revivifying... despite the fact that its injection of new life resulted in endlessly piss-poor derivative remakes... come to think of it Kevin Williamson has a lot to answer for... although I like The Faculty - The Faculty and Scream are very good at what they do...

but none of these films can hold a candle to the pure, visceral, adrenaline fuelled horror of films like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Last House on the Left... they were blazing a furious trail back then. the sheer horror has become diluted by postmodern irony to such an extent that a back to basics approach is now inescapably, itself an ironic statement.

wait, what am I saying? I don't know. seventies horror and exploitation is wonderful stuff and still very powerful. the current rash of remakes sickens me: it is patronising to assume that your audience is too stupid to get over its hang-ups with dated aesthetics and production-values. there is decent horror material coming out here and there though, of course. Funny Games and Audition are to exemplary movies, but I suppose they are quite old school now... Come to think of it FG is a film that is deeply reflexive, yet this doesn't mitigate its power in any way whatsoever...

[movieman64]

Originally posted by The Mothman
what is "The Hills Have Eyes" about?

A family is stranded in the desert, when their vehicle towing a camper breaks down. That night a family of cannibalistic inbreeds who live in the surrounding foothills attacks them.

Last House, is great, IMHO. You need to consider the period, early 70’s and what the film dealt with. Craven says he wanted it to reflect what was happening in Society at the time, Vietnam, Manson Murders, etc. The way he portrayed cruelty and indifference for human life is what makes the movie most disturbing for me. Remember, keep telling yourself, “it’s only a movie”, “it’s only a movie”!

[Tat2]

Even by todays standards, there are very few movies that take a chance with the things and being "hit" by the audience like Craven done with LHOTL, I mean, how many movies...both before and after this was made has a guy getting his Wang bit off? That still makes me wince! :D

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ownaGe


Yes I admit what he has been making the past few years is crap though.;)


actually I'd rather watch Music of the Heart than Scream. In case you don't know that's another Craven film.

[movieman64]

Originally posted by Tat2
Even by todays standards, there are very few movies that take a chance with the things and being "hit" by the audience like Craven done with LHOTL, I mean, how many movies...both before and after this was made has a guy getting his Wang bit off? That still makes me wince! :D

I agree that LHOTL broke a lot of ground, and is still in a class with very few players. There is the bathtub scene in I Spit on Your Grave too!

[BH14]

What was so great about LHOTL?? Rape scenes? awesome plot?? great characters?? Tell me please!!

[movieman64]

Originally posted by BH14
What was so great about LHOTL?? Rape scenes? awesome plot?? great characters?? Tell me please!!

Like I said in an earlier post, the way Craven portrayed cruelty and indifference for human life is what made it so disturbing for me. It is not a glossy, big name actors, and movie by today's or even the 1970's standards. The plot/storyline is bathed in realism, and you really feel like in certain scenes that you are there on the sidelines watching the story unfold. Some of the music and acting are campy, but it is a great film, and I agree probably Craven's best.

[Sedated_replica]

Originally posted by movieman64
Like I said in an earlier post, the way Craven portrayed cruelty and indifference for human life is what made it so disturbing for me. It is not a glossy, big name actors, and movie by today's or even the 1970's standards. The plot/storyline is bathed in realism, and you really feel like in certain scenes that you are there on the sidelines watching the story unfold. Some of the music and acting are campy, but it is a great film, and I agree probably Craven's best.

Movieman69 is correct

[barbra]

Originally posted by The Mothman
I just bought this film, and is was pretty disturbing. although I loved the ending with the chainsaw and all that.
waht r ur opinions on this film? the mom was pretty hard core

[bwind22]

Last House on the Left was great. Very few movies can be that unsettling.

As for LHOTL and Hills Have Eyes being his only 2 good movies... Well, that's just wiggity-whack, yall.

Last House on the Left
The Hills Have Eyes
People Under the Stairs
The Serpent and the Rainbow
Nightmare on Elm St.
Scream (Like it or not, it reinvented the genre.)
Swamp Thing (Okay, it's not great, but it has it's moments.)
Shocker
New Nightmare
Nightmare on Elm St. 3
Dracula 2000 (Producer)

Okay so some people might not like them all, but there is a lot more than 2 good movies in that bunch.

[MichaelMyers]

It was better than "Shocker".

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by MichaelMyers
It was better than "Shocker".

everything's better than Shocker

[Wickerman]

Last House on the Left is the sickest horror movie of all times no doubt. I mean to make a movie like that you really must have a fucked up mind! I loved it!

[Tat2]

Originally posted by movieman64
Like I said in an earlier post, the way Craven portrayed cruelty and indifference for human life is what made it so disturbing for me. It is not a glossy, big name actors, and movie by today's or even the 1970's standards. The plot/storyline is bathed in realism, and you really feel like in certain scenes that you are there on the sidelines watching the story unfold. Some of the music and acting are campy, but it is a great film, and I agree probably Craven's best.


Well put!:)
Couldn't have said it better myself!

[Tat2]

Originally posted by bwind22
Last House on the Left was great. Very few movies can be that unsettling.

As for LHOTL and Hills Have Eyes being his only 2 good movies... Well, that's just wiggity-whack, yall.

Last House on the Left
The Hills Have Eyes
People Under the Stairs
The Serpent and the Rainbow
Nightmare on Elm St.
Scream (Like it or not, it reinvented the genre.)
Swamp Thing (Okay, it's not great, but it has it's moments.)
Shocker
New Nightmare
Nightmare on Elm St. 3
Dracula 2000 (Producer)

Okay so some people might not like them all, but there is a lot more than 2 good movies in that bunch.

Lets look at this list. Hmmmmmm. Yep, mostly all good films. The Serpent and the Rainbow was very good and based on a true story and while Swamp Thing was a bit on the juvinile side, it dis have Adriene Barbeau in a wet T-shirt! You can't argue with that!
As for the rest of the list, all are good in their own right and some can be considered very original. The films above are all worthy.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Wickerman
I mean to make a movie like that you really must have a fucked up mind!


Creative not fucked up.

[MidgardDragon]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Creative not fucked up.

Aren't they often the same thing? ;)

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by MidgardDragon
Aren't they often the same thing? ;)


not all the time.

[bwind22]

If you thought LHOTL was disturbing, go rent (or buy) Cannibal Holocaust. You will never look at LOTL as anything but tame again.



And yeah... Shocker is probably one of Wes Craven's worst.

[Distorty]

To say that Craven is just plain "crap" is insane, think about the films he has made and how many of those films have been landmark genre bending films, Last house on the left made Exploitation film solid, A nightmare on elm street pretty much started the idea of franchise horror movie characters and spawned countless sequels some of which are fantastic, mainly number 3 and a new nightmare, serpant and the rainbow was incredibly intelligent and well made, and to get stuck into Swamp thing is very unfair considering the circumstances Wes faced when making this film, the thing that really bothers me about people attacking wes' directing ability is that people always seem to attack Scream, but also people tend to forget that once again Wes created a new change for the genre, and sure Wes has made some bad movies, but havent most directors done that? Lucio fulci made countless crap films but his good ones are EXCELLENT, Dario argento made the card player which is a prime example of a steller director fucking up. I could go on but i wont bother, i think people need to open their eyes a little and look at what Wes has done for the genre as a whole, and also his ability to create trends in the genre, i havent ever seen another director set trends in this genre like Wes ever.

[zwoti]

Originally posted by bwind22
And yeah... Shocker is probably one of Wes Craven's worst.

cough* hills have eyes part 2 *cough

[urgeok]

Originally posted by Tat2
and while Swamp Thing was a bit on the juvinile side, it dis have Adriene Barbeau in a wet T-shirt! You can't argue with that!


if you're lucky enough to have found the uncut origional release ...

she doesnt have a tshirt at all :D

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Distorty
A nightmare on elm street pretty much started the idea of franchise horror movie characters


I believe that was Halloween.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by urgeok
if you're lucky enough to have found the uncut origional release ...

she doesnt have a tshirt at all :D


I've gotta find that one:D

[urgeok]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I've gotta find that one:D

its rare .. i found it in my 'used place' for like 10$
it goes for about $40 on ebay.

some times i'm lucky :)

[Tat2]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I believe that was Halloween.

Actually, Universal started the whole frachise thing way back in the 30's and 40's with the Frankenstein, Dracula and Wolfman films. Movies like Friday the 13th, Holloween and Nightmare on Elm Street just gave it a needed booster shot.

[EXTR3MIST]

people tend to forget that once again Wes created a new change for the genre

That's right: the Smug, Knowing Horror Film (wink wink!).

He even nicked his Elm Street premise from The Slayer.

Bearded git.

[Palmer]

I dont even think scream should be classified as a horror flick ...it sucked ...Last house on the left was deff. his best...but I am also a big freddy fan.....the whole dream thing was brilliant...

[kung-fu-jesus]

scream should be a modern classic cause it was absolutly original at its time. also freddy was cool, 1 was great,2 no, 3 great, 4 ok, 5 ok, 6 ok, 7 terrible.

[Palmer]

Originally posted by kung-fu-jesus
scream should be a modern classic cause it was absolutly original at its time. also freddy was cool, 1 was great,2 no, 3 great, 4 ok, 5 ok, 6 ok, 7 terrible. Ya I feel the same about the nightmare series....nightmare 2 only thing it had was freddy was still scarry not funny, and part 6 they didnt even show how the hell he was resserected??

[kung-fu-jesus]

yeah. they didnt show how he was resurected part 6 but the story and ideas were cool. i loved when spencer was trippen and the game part.

[Palmer]

WoW.....Great graphics....

[kung-fu-jesus]

" wait, you forgot the pwer glove"

[FangoFan]

I first heard of this film but was clueless as to what it's content was. Everyone told me it was not anything someone should watch.

So you know, that means I had to see it eventually.

When I this I was thinking to myself, " This my be a good movie but it certainly doesn't look anything bad".

I thought that only within the first 10 minutes of the film.

When this movie was finished I thought I was not going to be able to sleep that night.

There are many things that I can't stomach from this film.

It sort of looks like a snuff film in how the camera invades the scenes with horrible realism.

I found this movie so disturbing. I honestly had much more respect for women after watching this.

And the time my girlfriend wanted to watch this with me because of the same reasons I wanted to see it. I felt like a piece of shit 'cuz I knew she would get really freaked out.

[kung-fu-jesus]

what movie are you talking about?

henry: portrit of a serial killer?

[bwind22]

Originally posted by Palmer
I dont even think scream should be classified as a horror flick ...it sucked

How else would you classify it?

Whether you thought it sucked or not isnt really relevant to what genre it would be placed in so where would you put it, if not in horror?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bwind22
How else would you classify it?

Whether you thought it sucked or not isnt really relevant to what genre it would be placed in so where would you put it, if not in horror?


same thing I was thinking, I think Jason X sucked but it's still horror.

[The STE]

Jason X was satirical, in the same vein as Bride of Chuckey.


As for Wes, am I the only one who thought People Under the Stairs kicked ass?

[zwoti]

Originally posted by The STE
As for Wes, am I the only one who thought People Under the Stairs kicked ass?

no

[urgeok]

Originally posted by The STE
Jason X was satirical, in the same vein as Bride of Chuckey.


As for Wes, am I the only one who thought People Under the Stairs kicked ass?

thats some extremely weak satire ..(Jason X)
it didnt work for me on any level at all.
The only thing that i thought was remotely amusing was the guy who was run through with Jasons machette while jason was still frozen (even in suspended animation - he still kills)
but the rest was deplorable ..

Seed of Chucky is supposed to be extremely satirical ...lots of hollywood in jokes , etc ..


i thought that the people under the stairs was pretty decent..

[bwind22]

Originally posted by The STE
Jason X was satirical, in the same vein as Bride of Chuckey.


As for Wes, am I the only one who thought People Under the Stairs kicked ass?

Nope. I did too. I like a lot of Wes Craven movies. (Although I just saw Cursed and that wasn't much more than American Ginger Snaps with the hip young cast.)

Hills Have Eyes, Last House..., NOES, People Under the Stairs are all extremely good. Wes reinvented/redefined the genre on the first three and People Under the Stairs is one of the most underrated movies I can think of.

When you throw his next tier of movies in (Scream, Serpent and the Rainbow, Swamp Thing, NOES3, and New Nightmare.) there really shouldn't even be any debate about whether or not he is one of the top horror film makers of all time.

Of course, like all directors, he's done some less than stellar films as well, (Scream 2, Scream 3, Shocker, Vampire in Brooklyn or Hills Have Eyes 2), but by and large, he is one of the best horror directors working in Hollywood right now.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by urgeok
thats some extremely weak satire ..(Jason X)
it didnt work for me on any level at all.
The only thing that i thought was remotely amusing was the guy who was run through with Jasons machette while jason was still frozen (even in suspended animation - he still kills)
but the rest was deplorable ..



That part was great, but the best pat was at the very end when Jason is floating through space back towards the ship and then that black guy comes out of no where and space tackles him into the abyss. I laughed so hard I almost cried.

[kung-fu-jesus]

i liked all of wes cravens films with the exception of shocker.

i dont get why people give scream 2 or 3 so much shit. they werent that bad, and as for sequels they are some of the best in the last 20 years.

in my opinion craven is the master of horror. yeah on acasion he fucks up, but even with his fuck ups his goodies make him the master of horror.

[Palmer]

Ya its horror ill give it that...but its the kind of horror my ol lady likes to watch more of a mystery type thing..

[FangoFan]

Originally posted by kung-fu-jesus
what movie are you talking about?

henry: portrit of a serial killer?

I was talking about the topical film, Last House on the Left

[The STE]

Best part = Cyber Crystal Lake.


"We love premarital sex!"

*beats them to death with each other in sleeping bags*

[crazy raplh]

I liked that movie and all of wes's movies something about 70's and rape sorta tied it all together.

[borndead]

I just finished watching the 100 greatest moments in horror movies. 2 I truly have to get me hands on. The last house on the left and Children shouldn't play with dead things.

[bwind22]

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[MichaelMyers]

I've heard of it. :)

[zwoti]

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