Dahmer

[Pennywise8]

What are your thoughts on him? I think he was one of the best serial killers ever.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Ramirez > Dahmer

[Chainsaw Guy]

theres people much better than Dahmer

[aborted]

he must be good, hes got an album:p

[aborted]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Ramirez > Dahmer

the zodiac > ramirez

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

Originally posted by aborted
the zodiac > ramirez

no way, the zodiak killer had no style. :p

[aborted]

killing multiple people then teasing the police isnt style? and he wasent a wuss, killing only women....but he did use a gun so whatever...lol at least he didnt rape old women:D . but ramirez does have a way of pissing people i.e. marring in prison.

[bloody_ribcut]

my thoughts on dahmer,......hmm. Well he was a well mannered student at west virginia university, he understood what are the qualities of a man's life and i felt with one more year of schooling he could have been the next doctor henderson.

[Chainsaw Guy]

The zodiac killer kicks ass

[aborted]

Originally posted by Chainsaw Guy
The zodiac killer kicks ass

yep gotta love the ones that dont get caught.

[Vodstok]

"Best Serial Killer ever"?

No offense, but that is easily one of the most retarded things i have ever read. What makes a "good" serial killer?

Serial killers are evil sociopaths. Are you trying to say which one had the most kills?

Pedro Lopez, over 300.


The most gruesome?
Albert Fish, he ate kids.

Richard Ramirez was an evil person. He doesnt deserve to be glorified in any way.

[aborted]

Originally posted by Vodstok
"Best Serial Killer ever"?
Richard Ramirez was an evil person. He doesnt deserve to be glorified in any way.

sure he does. he is a Celebrity just like tom hanks or hally berry the only difference is he achieved his fame in a different way.

[The Mothman]

screw him, Jack The Ripper will always remain the best

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by aborted
sure he does. he is a Celebrity just like tom hanks or hally berry the only difference is he achieved his fame in a different way. People who glorify real serial killers are generally emotionally retarded. What he did made him interesting, not admirable.

he should be treated like an insect: Studied and kept in a jar.

He isnt a celebrity, he is a criminal. Learn the differance. And grow up.

[aborted]

ce·leb·ri·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-lbr-t)
n. pl. ce·leb·ri·ties
1. A famous person.
2. Renown; fame.

he is famous for the fact the we are talking about him and when someone says the night stalker you will know exactly who they are talking about. people may say that he is a bad person and they are probably right but he is famous and i doubt that everyone who admires richard ramirez or any other serial killer/mass murderers is "emotionally retarded". he deserves everything he got including world wide popularity, jail time (death row unless im mistaken), a nice god fearing virgin wife, and a huge fan base.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

true

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by aborted
ce·leb·ri·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-lbr-t)
n. pl. ce·leb·ri·ties
1. A famous person.
2. Renown; fame.

he is famous for the fact the we are talking about him and when someone says the night stalker you will know exactly who they are talking about. people may say that he is a bad person and they are probably right but he is famous and i doubt that everyone who admires richard ramirez or any other serial killer/mass murderers is "emotionally retarded". he deserves everything he got including world wide popularity, jail time (death row unless im mistaken), a nice god fearing virgin wife, and a huge fan base. "Celebrity" is like "Exploit", there is a connotation with it that trascends the actual dictionary definition of it. And yes they are all emotionally retarded for admiring somone for commiting abject evil. This isnt a fantasy like Michael Myers or Freddy, this is actual death. people's lives weere ruined and ended by him and others like him. That is something that should be remembered, but not glorified and raised to the level of pop-culture.

Of course, judging by your avatar, i can see why you have taken the stance you have. You missed the message of the movie though, raising serial killers to iconic status is destructive, not "all in good fun".

[aborted]

Originally posted by Vodstok
"Celebrity" is like "Exploit", there is a connotation with it that trascends the actual dictionary definition of it. And yes they are all emotionally retarded for admiring somone for commiting abject evil. This isnt a fantasy like Michael Myers or Freddy, this is actual death. people's lives weere ruined and ended by him and others like him. That is something that should be remembered, but not glorified and raised to the level of pop-culture.

Of course, judging by your avatar, i can see why you have taken the stance you have. You missed the message of the movie though, raising serial killers to iconic status is destructive, not "all in good fun".

saying everyone who admires these people are emotionally retarded is a very stupid thing to say. murder, if thought of as sport, would be much more challenging and entertaing then other sports like hunting that are on the same level so fans of any kind of hunting including fishing or their participants are emotionally retarded and if they are thats probably the population of the world with a few exceptions.

as for my choise of avatar i took it for what it was, a movie. i didnt miss the point nor do i agree with it to a tee. its just a movie that i enjoy.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

My favorite movie btw.

[Chainsaw Guy]

Originally posted by The Mothman
screw him, Jack The Ripper will always remain the best


thats very true

[The_Return]

Dahmers was the best character in The Frighteners!


Whoops...wrong one:p

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by aborted
saying everyone who admires these people are emotionally retarded is a very stupid thing to say. murder, if thought of as sport, would be much more challenging and entertaing then other sports like hunting that are on the same level so fans of any kind of hunting including fishing or their participants are emotionally retarded and if they are thats probably the population of the world with a few exceptions.

as for my choise of avatar i took it for what it was, a movie. i didnt miss the point nor do i agree with it to a tee. its just a movie that i enjoy. It isnt stupid. Likening murder to sports is. What exactly is admirable about killing and raping? Does it require some useful skill? Does it contribute in some meaningful way to society?

No, it ruins lives and demeans everyone involved. There is a big difference between hunting for an animal and a human. In a certyain way, there is a huge problem with hunting and fishing, in that it screws up the natural order because people want to get the biggest best trophy, which means the strong die and the weak survive, but that isnt the point here, and aside from that, i have no problem with either hunting or fishing. Both actually serve a very useful purpose.

Don't try to give me any bullshit that murder is necesarry, either. I believe overpopulation is a problem, and the increase of serial killing is a direct result of the species trying to even out it''s numbers, but the answer to that is prevention, not culling the herd.

Yiour parallels are absurd. Comparing murder to hunting and sport in general is saying Hitler was like Mr Rogers because they both tried to teach people an ideology.

I would not be arguing with you if i thought you actually 100% believed what you are saying, because if you are, you are a sociopath anyway. You come off as someone trying to be a badass, and have managed to convince yourself that serial killers have attained some sort of well-deserved celebrity status because they were pathetic shut-ins with a broken moral compass and tenuous (at best) grip on reality.


Actually do some research on some of these people:
http://crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/index.html

there is hours of reading there. Get a real education on the subject, and if your views stay the same, then you are exactly what i said, emaotionally retarded, not to mention morally retarded.

Try developing some empathy for other human beings. it takes the fun out of this shit. And if you thinik by admitting that you will lose your "badass" status, then you are a sad little nerd that could use some counseling.

[aborted]

im not trying to be anything im not and there a many prople like me im sure. people like you have been trying to say what kind of murder is ok. like the guy who dropped the atomic bomb he was a hero but then you hear about ottis toole what a monster. compare the hundreds of thousands of lives vs. one (+more mabey) and lets not froget the middle ground, al capone everyone loves a mobster its a guilty pleasure of many people mabey even you.

and i prefer http://www.mayhem.net/Crime/serial.html its much better.

[Vodstok]

The atomi9c bomb was an atrocity, nuclear weapons are as well. It ended the war, so more lives were saved, but that still doesnt make it right.


No, i dont particularly care for Al Capone. I have always taken great satisfaction from the fact he died from syphillis, that was justice.

Check out the crimelibrary link. the site you referred to is actually the kind i was talking about, giving only a few paragraphs about each killer. Crimelibrary articles usually run 6-14 pages and are much more interesting.

Read the one on Henry Lee Lucas. It pretty much kills the movie "Henry: Portrait of a serial killer", but it is a good read.

I have a feeling we will have to agree to disagree on this, seeing as how neither of us will be letting up our posiiton anytime soon.


If you want to discuss them objectively, hit me up. it is a very interesting subject.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Why would you want to glorify or admire a serial killer? I just don't get actually admiring someone who's mentally ill(in most cases) and ends the lives of people in a gruesome fashion.

What's admirable about that? most serial killers are insane and kill of uncontrolable impulses so what is there to admire, you said it's a sport, lets make an example out of football. Terrell Owens is a wide reciever who has athletic ability and knowing uses it on the field to make great plays to help his team win that is admirable but someone who simply cannot control himself has nothing to admire.

If you're talking about movies that's one thing, to say who's your favorite villan and have people answer freddy,michael,jason ect. that's all fun because it's not real and used for entertainment but when you start talking about real people who take real lives away from families a son from his mother,husband from his wife,father from his children ect. that's nothing to glorify. Take American Psycho for example the scene Bateman chased the girl through the apartment building and drops the chainsaw on her I thought that was kinda cool, but when I heard that Derek Todd Lee had killed another woman I didn't say ''that guys good'' I said ''That fucker should be thrown into a rattlesnake pit''

I agree on the fact that it's interesting, everytime I see something on tv about serial killers I watch it I don't sit there admiring the bastards but I do find it interesting.

[Vodstok]

From what i have read, i think many of them dont even qualify as insane. That is giving them too much credit, and shifts the blame. They are sociopaths, and they are just evil.


One killer (from germany i think, maybe england) said "You dont have tio be crazy to be evil".

They know right from wrong, that is why they try to keep hidden. They just dont care. They give in to impulses that many normal people have but ignore or supress.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Vodstok
From what i have read, i think many of them dont even qualify as insane. That is giving them too much credit, and shifts the blame. They are sociopaths, and they are just evil.


One killer (from germany i think, maybe england) said "You dont have tio be crazy to be evil".

They know right from wrong, that is why they try to keep hidden. They just dont care. They give in to impulses that many normal people have but ignore or supress.

you're probably right about that but I still can't find a reason why they should be admired, covered in zebra blood and thrown into a Lion's den yes but admired no.

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
you're probably right about that but I still can't find a reason why they should be admired, covered in zebra blood and thrown into a Lion's den yes but admired no. I am in complete agreeance with you. Study them like animals and then chuckle slightly when they complain that they arent being treated like a person.

[aborted]

Originally posted by Vodstok
The atomi9c bomb was an atrocity, nuclear weapons are as well. It ended the war, so more lives were saved, but that still doesnt make it right.


Read the one on Henry Lee Lucas. It pretty much kills the movie "Henry: Portrait of a serial killer", but it is a good read.

I have a feeling we will have to agree to disagree on this, seeing as how neither of us will be letting up our posiiton anytime soon.


ilove henry portrait of a serial killer and yeah h.l.l does ruin it. yes we will probably agree on disagreeing. p.s. i love you vod *kisses

[Blade]

I love Jeff with all my heart and will always.

Jeffrey i mourn your murder and yes Christopher Scaver must die!!!!!!!!!!!

[AUSTIN316426808]

:rolleyes:

[bloody_ribcut]

that hedgestone was gangsta, thats what i want.

[texaschainSAW17]

i like dahmer, he's my fav searil killer

[NirvanaNole]

Some of you people should be reported to the FBI. It is one thing to study serial killers and try to understand them, it is another thing to admire them and their work. Canada may need to watch "aborted." I have a feeling he's probably some little kid that has had his ass kicked growing up, but there is no excuse to admire a serial killer.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by texaschainSAW17
i like dahmer, he's my fav searil killer



another genius

[Sadistic_Rozez]

I Agree with Blade


:D

[scottingraham]

Peter Sutcliffe terrorized prostitues in N England with a hammer and other torture devices from 1975-84! Claims God ordered him to murder hookers.

[Sadistic_Rozez]

LMFAO

but you would have to admit that this picture is adorable
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