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filmmaker2
02-14-2005, 11:43 AM
Okay, here's the question. This is something I'm really curious about:

What would you all most like to see in horror films today?

I'm not talking about what your favorite movies ARE:

I'm asking, what is Hollywood NOT making that you would LIKE to see?

Your fondest wish!

Your happiest dream!

The most wonderful thing

That makes you SCREAM!

Tell me about it, I wanna know.

urgeok
02-14-2005, 11:46 AM
more gratuitous nudity (no joke)
and something fresh new and origional ...
something unusual

something with good acting ...


i want to see a horror film with excellent adult actors that know what the fuck they are doing.

(which pretty much eliminates DiNiro who hasnt been in a good horror film since angel heart)

Vodstok
02-14-2005, 11:48 AM
A game where people throw ducks at balloons, and nothing is as it seems....



Anyway, I would love to see a GOOD video game movie, that stays true to the plot of the game.

A GOOD movie based on Dungeons and Dragons (or any other RPG)

A complete year without a remake (nothign against them, i would just like to see 12 months fgo by with some original ideas)

Ben Affleck to trip and break his giant ass-crack chin.

The_Return
02-14-2005, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
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i want to see a horror film with excellent adult actors that know what the fuck they are doing.



I want to see Al Pacino do a horror movie. I think Devil's Advocate looks like steaming shit, but Im gonna see it sometime just because of Pacino. I think he'd make a great villan in a horror.

urgeok
02-14-2005, 12:04 PM
the best ones are the guys who you'd never suspect ..

like Gregory Peck in the Omen.
Or all of the old fellas (esp. Astair in Ghost Story - although that movie could have been so much more)


One notable exception was Phantoms - even Peter O'toole coulnt lend credibility to that mess.

still , gimme a Gene HAckman, someone like that ..

Vodstok
02-14-2005, 12:10 PM
I agree with oyu on phantoms. i kept thinking "Pleas elet peter otoole be in somehting else so he doesnt die with THIS as his last movie...."

And my prayers were answered, he was in Out To Sea.

GorePhobia
02-14-2005, 12:15 PM
i want the unthinkable to be thinkable....

I want to say holy shit thats disgusting and have to turn away...

I want to be stuck to my seat and not wanna move...(never happened b4)

I want to be able to see a girl go without falling and think she is away but then die when we least supspect it :)

urgeok
02-14-2005, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Vodstok
I agree with oyu on phantoms. i kept thinking "Pleas elet peter otoole be in somehting else so he doesnt die with THIS as his last movie...."

And my prayers were answered, he was in Out To Sea.


didnt you make fun of my typing once :D


yeah i was thinking the same thing .. dear god - this cant be his last film...

Iniquity
02-14-2005, 01:18 PM
more cannibalism

graphic torture *not oh thats gotta hurt, but GAWD DAMN I CAN DAMN NEAR FEEL THAT FROM HERE*

kill the drama queen pretty bitches *prom queen's suck unless its carrie* and let the least likely person live, or just kill them ALL!

Have a movie with no weapons involved *at least on the killers part*, let him do the deeds with animalistic rage, either beating, biting, tearing, etc.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
02-14-2005, 01:23 PM
Gore, gore, gore...



of the al variety.

http://www.jsonline.com/election2000/image/110700/1gore110700.jpg

horrifying. Oh and cannibalism.

Iniquity
02-14-2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Gore, gore, gore...



of the al variety.

http://www.jsonline.com/election2000/image/110700/1gore110700.jpg

horrifying. Oh and cannibalism.

MUCH horrifying

AUSTIN316426808
02-14-2005, 01:34 PM
I wanna see more psychological stuff like Se7en,Silence of the Lambs and the Shinning, three of the five best horror films ever made (IMO)

X¤MurderDoll¤X
02-14-2005, 01:36 PM
It's too bad Brad Pitt is above horror now.

Gren the cake
02-14-2005, 01:51 PM
i had a totally kick ass idea for a horror movie, an idea that i shared with my israeli friend and i cant fuckin remember

ugh

AUSTIN316426808
02-14-2005, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
It's too bad Brad Pitt is above horror now.

I thought he was great in Se7en, the '96 oscars should have been at the very least loaded with nominees for Se7en.

Woody Harelson could've been bumped for Brad Pitt, Armen Mulluer-Stahl could've been bumped for either Morgan Freeman or Kevin Spacey, Secrets and Lies could've been bumped from the best picture category and last but definately not least Andrew Kevin Walker should've been nominated for best screenplay.

jedicow
02-14-2005, 02:06 PM
i want to see a good zombie movie starring robert de niro, brad pitt, keira knightly, laurence fishburn, harrison ford, bruce willis, monica potter, glenn close, jeff goldblum, and eric bana.

AUSTIN316426808
02-14-2005, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by jedicow
i want to see a good zombie movie starring robert de niro, brad pitt, keira knightly, laurence fishburn, harrison ford, bruce willis, monica potter, glenn close, jeff goldblum, and eric bana.

don't hold your breathe. that's about a hundred-sixty million dollar cast.

Death By Jell-O
02-14-2005, 02:30 PM
Something Original. Not Even Entirely Original, (Like House of 1000 Corpses. Yes, It was heavily influenced by TCSM, but it is still one of my all time fave horror flicks. It had good atmosphere and a decent story line as far as horror goes. It wasn't completely original, but it was very entertaining)

We are in dire need of a new horror icon, someone worthy of spawning a mass of sequels (good sequels at that). Use of unknown actors in a movie in hopes of actually having some good actors/actresses. Hollywood is too wrapped up in getting the big names to appear in hopes of upping the monetary gross of shitty movies, but in the end, they ALL fail to deliver. The influx of new horror movies and remakes is getting sad. They're all rated PG-13 now which equates into a whole lotta made for TV crap. I want to see something rated R or NC-17 or something. That way we know we're getting quality horror entertainment rather than some crappy, we're trying so hard to be scary shit.

I just want good horror I guess. Something that reminds me of the days when horror movies were actually worth watching.

majorbludd
02-14-2005, 07:55 PM
more established actors in independent horror films....ie... pleasance in halloween

Hate_Breeder
02-14-2005, 08:25 PM
I would like to see a good horror movie thats not a remake for once.....that would be a surprise..

GorePhobia
02-14-2005, 08:30 PM
i would deff rather have no names...maybe 1 other somebody there too and just have the no names make a name for themselves...it would be alot better IMO

majorbludd
02-14-2005, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by GorePhobia
i would deff rather have no names...maybe 1 other somebody there too and just have the no names make a name for themselves...it would be alot better IMO

the no name thing only works if the script is worthwhile and the people making the movie give a shit....a fresh face is great....but theres a million faces that are attractive that bring nothing to the table...and for obvious reasons these are the grills hollywood wants us to see...for every steve buscemi...and john c reilly....theres a hundred ryan goslings...

GorePhobia
02-14-2005, 08:48 PM
yeah u have a major point...I just want an amazing director and script to where they can make these new actors look amazing

ChEEbA
02-14-2005, 09:47 PM
I'd like to see a one eyed guy cut his penis off with scissors, and wear the severed unit inside his empty eye socket, then dipping the stump in sand, and melting into glass with a souldering iron.

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 04:09 AM
Ew.


I would like to see the Napolean Dynamite of horror films.

One Somebody who isnt really a big somebody (Diedrich Bader in ND)

Consistently entertaining, without ever being particularly over the top

Satisfying ending.

A dance number to Jamiroquai (What? a guy can dream cant he?)

urgeok
02-15-2005, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Ew.


I would like to see the Napolean Dynamite of horror films.

One Somebody who isnt really a big somebody (Diedrich Bader in ND)

Consistently entertaining, without ever being particularly over the top

Satisfying ending.

A dance number to Jamiroquai (What? a guy can dream cant he?)

check out the new Zatoichi for a weird dance number

ShankS
02-15-2005, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by ChEEbA
I'd like to see a one eyed guy cut his penis off with scissors, and wear the severed unit inside his empty eye socket, then dipping the stump in sand, and melting into glass with a souldering iron.

do you reckon that would hurt?

Wendigo
02-15-2005, 04:57 AM
I would really like to see a good movie based on a short story by H.P. Lovecraft
:cool: . Many directors tried, but, in my view, no one succeded in re-creating that unique atmosphere which makes each Lovecraft's work a materpiece. It should be weird and old-fashioned, fantastic but also scary and overwheliming... it should be Lovecraft. Am I asking too much ;) ?

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 04:58 AM
I would be willing to bet it stopped hurting once the penis was gone

urgeok
02-15-2005, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by ChEEbA
I'd like to see a one eyed guy cut his penis off with scissors, and wear the severed unit inside his empty eye socket, then dipping the stump in sand, and melting into glass with a souldering iron.

thats near the end of my list of things i want to see.

right before michael bolton singing in person, and after Elvis's autopsy video.

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by Wendigo
I would really like to see a good movie based on a short story by H.P. Lovecraft
:cool: . Many directors tried, but, in my view, no one succeded in re-creating that unique atmosphere which makes each Lovecraft's work a materpiece. It should be weird and old-fashioned, fantastic but also scary and overwheliming... it should be Lovecraft. Am I asking too much ;) ? You are my new freind. i have been begging for this exact thing for years. Is it so hard?


And can we NOT have Stuart (Reanimator, Dagon) Gordon involved? AT All?

Maybe he can rent it on VHS when its released on it....

urgeok
02-15-2005, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
You are my new freind. i have been begging for this exact thing for years. Is it so hard?


And can we NOT have Stuart (Reanimator, Dagon) Gordon involved? AT All?

Maybe he can rent it on VHS when its released on it....


you know .. i thought Dagon was pretty ok ...

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 05:16 AM
I know a lot of HP Lovecraft fans that liked it too. I am just continually disappointed by the movies made from his stories. Dagon (the story) had NOTHING to do with the story of the movie. The movie was a bastardised version of "The Shadow Over Innsmouth". Dagon was a suicide note.

Im just tired of them being made with enthusiasm but with no real talent or story-telling ability

newb
02-15-2005, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
I know a lot of HP Lovecraft fans that liked it too. I am just continually disappointed by the movies made from his stories. Dagon (the story) had NOTHING to do with the story of the movie. The movie was a bastardised version of "The Shadow Over Innsmouth". Dagon was a suicide note.

Im just tired of them being made with enthusiasm but with no real talent or story-telling ability

Have you still not seen Re-Animator?

filmmaker2
02-15-2005, 06:52 AM
Very interesting answers from everybody....taking a step back, I notice a lot of people seem to think that modern horror movies aren't very good, on average, and would like to see them better made...

And a lot of people seem insulted by the trend of stupid "victim" characters--righty so, IMO, because if the majority of the "good guys" are idiots, then the characters the AUDIENCE is supposed to "identify" with are idiots. That of course means that there is a tendency on the part of horror filmmakers (or the studios that fund them) to talk down to, or insult their audience. In other words, many people seem to sense that their favorite genre has a disdain for the very audience that ponies up for the box office. "These people are idiots, let's make some more crap for them so they can buy us swimming pools."

So...smarter movies, smarter characters.

As for myself, I want to see:

"LEPRECHOSITY"

A leprechaun that is a computer-composite of 33 of the most dangerous leprechauns breaks free from the Matrix to seek his pot o' gold. Me pot o' gold, Missssster Anderson, I WANTS ME POT O' GOLD!

Wendigo
02-15-2005, 06:56 AM
Dagon is a movie u can watch, but totally misses the atmosphere of "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" :(, one of Lovecraft's masterpieces. It's hard to explain, but HPL works such as "The Shadow..." or the "Colour out of space", or "The Dunwich Horror", has something unique which makes them great! I can't find the same quality in a movie like Dagon.

Re-animator... I can't shoot on this movie, but it's based on a short story that Lovecraft himself didn't like very much, written strictly under commission, episode after episode. I mean... the story isn't bad, but definitely it's not HPL at his best. And so the movie :p ...

There's nothing to do... I'm not satisfied with Gordon's attempts. I agree with Vodstok: he worked with enthusiasm, but something is missing and I'll be waiting 'till someone else "will find it", cause I'm not sure Gordon is fit to direct the movie I've got in mind.
Glad to know I'm not alone in this wait, couse I fear it will be a long, long one ;)

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 07:03 AM
Hey, Wendigo. Here is a site you may enjoy (if you havent seen it alread)

http://www.templeofdagon.com/

great Lovecraft Gallery, and the guy who owns the site is very freindly and hands on.

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Death By Jell-O
We are in dire need of a new horror icon, someone worthy of spawning a mass of sequels (good sequels at that)

I think I've done this. I've never heard of anything else like what I came up with but of course I could always be wrong.

urgeok
02-15-2005, 07:16 AM
they should do the Night Stalker - as series of movies.
with a crusty old guy - not some young punk ass pretty boy.

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
they should do the Night Stalker - as series of movies.
with a crusty old guy - not some young punk ass pretty boy.

what makes you think you're a better actor than Ben Affleck.:D

urgeok
02-15-2005, 07:25 AM
a different crusty old guy !!

i couldnt remember 2 lines if they were 'Hi' and 'Hello'

i cant think of who should play the guy .. but if done right it would make a sweet series

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
what makes you think you're a better actor than Ben Affleck.:D You think Ben is pretty?!

*walks away whistling with hands in pockets*

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
You think Ben is pretty?!

*walks away whistling with hands in pockets*

just a joke!!!!!!, I had to come up with somebody.

newb
02-15-2005, 07:32 AM
I'm comfortable enough in my own sexuality to admit if a guy is good looking or not.

Ben's aight .....but Brad.............now your talking.

urgeok
02-15-2005, 07:34 AM
i seriously think Vods been trying to come to grasp with something all morning ..
maybe a guy grabbed his ass in a bar and its given him some disturbing mixed feelings :D

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 07:36 AM
nope. Im certain im straight. Banged the wife last night. i liked it.

Saw myself in the mirror. Looked back at my wife.

urgeok
02-15-2005, 07:38 AM
i think we need some pictures as proof ...

i'm starting to wonder ... we keep seeing that same pic all the time .. how do we know its not a random chickie off of 'rate my pic' ?

hmmmmmmm i wonder ....

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by newb
I'm comfortable enough in my own sexuality to admit if a guy is good looking or not.



I don't know if you're joking or not but I feel that way.

X¤MurderDoll¤X
02-15-2005, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by newb
I'm comfortable enough in my own sexuality to admit if a guy is good looking or not.

Ben's aight .....but Brad.............now your talking.

no, now we're talking:
*edit fuck you no hotlinking



Ben's too much of a doofus.

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
i think we need some pictures as proof ...

i'm starting to wonder ... we keep seeing that same pic all the time .. how do we know its not a random chickie off of 'rate my pic' ?

hmmmmmmm i wonder ....
http://scaredyet.net/pics/wedding/wed1.jpg
http://scaredyet.net/pics/wedding/wed2.jpg


Photographic evidence that i am married to the hot chick in those pictures.

urgeok
02-15-2005, 08:17 AM
pretty girl ..


do you know that you look like stan laurel ?

newb
02-15-2005, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
pretty girl ..


do you know that you look like stan laurel ?

His lineage has already been done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/limpet.jpg

The Mothman
02-15-2005, 08:19 AM
What would you all most like to see in horror films today?

i wanna see Motley Crue overedose

thepsychicfetus
02-15-2005, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by newb
His lineage has already been done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/limpet.jpg

is that k.d. lang and the guy from the andy griffith?

newb
02-15-2005, 08:23 AM
correct

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 08:35 AM
it has long been established that goofy men get hot women.

Tom Green and Drew Barrymore
Joe Dimaggio and Marilyn Monroe
Arthur Miller and Marilyn Monroe
Rose MCGowan and MArilyn Manson

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
it has long been established that goofy men get hot women.

Tom Green and Drew Barrymore
Joe Dimaggio and Marilyn Monroe
Arthur Miller and Marilyn Monroe
Rose MCGowan and MArilyn Manson

Have you seen Kevin Smith's wife?

urgeok
02-15-2005, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Have you seen Kevin Smith's wife?

yeah she's hot

urgeok
02-15-2005, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by newb
His lineage has already been done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/limpet.jpg

i'm sorry but thats all crap - the guy looks like stan laurel !!!!

man you need to get a bowler hat, take it off and scratch your head ....

get a pic of that would u ? :)

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
yeah she's hot

have you ever seen that commercial where he's advertising one of his film(can't remember which one)

and he says ''come on buy the movie help the fat guy keep the hot chick''

I laughed my ass off at that.

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 08:51 AM
For you bubby?






Not a chance in hell :)

urgeok
02-15-2005, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
For you bubby?


Not a chance in hell :)


how about one of the wife in the shower then ?

urgeok
02-15-2005, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
have you ever seen that commercial where he's advertising one of his film(can't remember which one)

and he says ''come on buy the movie help the fat guy keep the hot chick''

I laughed my ass off at that.

no i didnt, but thats pretty funny ... they're both good sports :)

filmmaker2
02-15-2005, 09:21 AM
Seriously, though....

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Very interesting answers from everybody....taking a step back, I notice a lot of people seem to think that modern horror movies aren't very good, on average, and would like to see them better made...

And a lot of people seem insulted by the trend of stupid "victim" characters--righty so, IMO, because if the majority of the "good guys" are idiots, then the characters the AUDIENCE is supposed to "identify" with are idiots. That of course means that there is a tendency on the part of horror filmmakers (or the studios that fund them) to talk down to, or insult their audience. In other words, many people seem to sense that their favorite genre has a disdain for the very audience that ponies up for the box office. "These people are idiots, let's make some more crap for them so they can buy us swimming pools."

So...smarter movies, smarter characters.

As for myself, I want to see:

"LEPRECHOSITY"

A leprechaun that is a computer-composite of 33 of the most dangerous leprechauns breaks free from the Matrix to seek his pot o' gold. Me pot o' gold, Missssster Anderson, I WANTS ME POT O' GOLD!

newb
02-15-2005, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
i'm sorry but thats all crap - the guy looks like stan laurel !!!!

man you need to get a bowler hat, take it off and scratch your head ....

get a pic of that would u ? :)
I'll agree in the new wedding pics, there is a bit of Stan Laurel....but in the pic I had to work with, I got Don Knots.

Vod would rather me use this one.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/rockinmule/newvod.jpg

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 09:36 AM
Yes, I would.




I want to be pretty!

urgeok
02-15-2005, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Yes, I would.




I want to be pretty!


i dont even have a reply for that .. i'm too creeped out

yikes !

Wendigo
02-15-2005, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by filmmaker2
[...]
And a lot of people seem insulted by the trend of stupid "victim" characters
[...]
So...smarter movies, smarter characters.
[...]


I can't say I feel insulted by "the trend of stupid victim characters" ... maybe because I tend to identify with the killer and not with the victim (LOL, joking :D). Anyway, having smarter victims and, as a consequence, smarter killers and movies would be great sometimes. Even in "Saw", which I consider pretty smart among recent movies, the policemen act like perfet idiots in the moment they could arrest the "killer" :mad: . I found that sequence rather disappointing, even if I liked the film ;).

P.s. Thanks for the link Vodstok ;)

traxfork
02-15-2005, 12:07 PM
I would like to see a horror based on an angry badger. Ovbiously it would be freakishly large and could talk

Mybe when it talks it's in a posh english accent

fantastic

Vodstok
02-15-2005, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by traxfork
I would like to see a horror based on an angry badger. Ovbiously it would be freakishly large and could talk

Mybe when it talks it's in a posh english accent

fantastic Good first post :)


Could it wear a cartigan and carry a pipe?

urgeok
02-15-2005, 12:14 PM
you know what i'd really like to see ?

beautiful naked women pressed against the windows of my house - 24/7

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
you know what i'd really like to see ?

beautiful naked women pressed against the windows of my house - 24/7

might as well close the subject now.

can't get better than that.

well I could think of a few ways to make it better:D

urgeok
02-15-2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
might as well close the subject now.

can't get better than that.

well I could think of a few ways to make it better:D


opening the windows so everyones naughty bits can be exchanged ?

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
opening the windows so everyones naughty bits can be exchanged ?

that's just one idea:D

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
opening the windows so everyones naughty bits can be exchanged ?

I like hockey and Wayne Greztky was my favorite player, I was just wondering if it's true that he's God in Canada.

urgeok
02-15-2005, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I like hockey and Wayne Greztky was my favorite player, I was just wondering if it's true that he's God in Canada.

to some - certainly .. so is Don Cherry.

not everyone is that rabid about hockey though ....
i couldn't even care about the strike this year ... i'm kind of fed up with hockey ..

filmmaker2
02-15-2005, 12:37 PM
How about a movie about an island of puppets? That would be scary.

urgeok
02-15-2005, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by filmmaker2
How about a movie about an island of puppets? That would be scary.

does it have to be an island ?

what about a nice penninsula ?

or a fenced in area of a state park where they speak in goofy old fashion english and avoid the colour red ?

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
to some - certainly .. so is Don Cherry.

not everyone is that rabid about hockey though ....
i couldn't even care about the strike this year ... i'm kind of fed up with hockey ..

I stopped being a big fan when he left, now I just watch it whenever I catch it on while channel surfing, I watch the playoffs regularly though but that obviously wont be happening this year.

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by urgeok


or a fenced in area of a state park where they speak in goofy old fashion english and avoid the colour red ?

you said avoid the color red.

I haven't seen the Village yet but tell me whatever the hell those things are that they don't talk.

immortalem
02-15-2005, 12:57 PM
I would like to see an original, thought provoking story line. I would like to see great acting and more psychological suspense. I would also like to see a movie that makes me squirm in my seat because it is actually scary and mind blowing.

AUSTIN316426808
02-15-2005, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by immortalem
I would like to see an original, thought provoking story line. I would like to see great acting and more psychological suspense. I would also like to see a movie that makes me squirm in my seat because it is actually scary and mind blowing.

I feel the exact same way