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The Mothman
01-31-2005, 12:07 PM
well according to me, the scariest movie I have ever seen was the mothman prophecies. every single time I watch it, it manages to scare the pants off'a me. wat movie scare u guys the most?
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taylorsmommy
01-31-2005, 12:13 PM
The Exorcist. I saw it in the theater when it came out (I was around the same age as Linda Blair), couldn't watch the whole thing, left, and to this day cannot watch that movie!
phantomstranger
01-31-2005, 12:20 PM
1. The Exorcist
2. Night Of The Living Dead
3 The Omen
4 Alien
5. Jaws
Angra
01-31-2005, 01:01 PM
"Salems Lot" and "Ju-on".
Uuuuuuuuuhhh, Mufasa!!
:cool:
IDrinkYourBlood
01-31-2005, 01:53 PM
I'd go with TCM and Halloween. Those scared me the most I think.
42ndStreetFreak
01-31-2005, 01:58 PM
The original "The Haunting".
filmmaker2
01-31-2005, 08:34 PM
I'll put in my vote again for "Lemora" (1975)
Scariest freaking thing I ever saw. Seriously messed up! You'll love it.
Sedated_replica
01-31-2005, 08:38 PM
I thought "Last House on the Left" was the scariest for me. I might get bashed. But something is fucked up about watching girls get raped. The acting in that scene was alittle too real
slasherman
02-01-2005, 01:44 AM
When I was "little" I found "The Changeling" pretty scary...but I guess "RIngu" have to be the most scary of all time...
AUSTIN316426808
02-01-2005, 02:14 AM
I'm changing my answer to Jurassic Park because I saw it when I was 8 or 9 something like that and it's the only movie that really scared me.
gnarly
02-01-2005, 02:48 AM
The Exorcist is so not scary ...its just some wak demon bitch in a bed,
do you u.s.a guys think its scary coz yaz have god over there or some thing.
i recon the ring is sorta scary but i still hated it
AUSTIN316426808
02-01-2005, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by gnarly
The Exorcist is so not scary ...its just some wak demon bitch in a bed,
do you u.s.a guys think its scary coz yaz have god over there or some thing.
i recon the ring is sorta scary but i still hated it
I don't think it's scary it just spooks me a little.
Australians don't believe in God? not that you're suppose to or anything.
urgeok
02-01-2005, 03:14 AM
when i was a kid, Tales from the Crypt made me walk out of the theatre i was so scared shitless. (this is the old UK movie .. not the TV show or movies spawned by it)
I cant say i've found anything scary since ..
Actially ...there was a made for TV movie called the Norliss Tapes .. that scared me too ..probably around the same time as Crypt.
The Mothman
02-01-2005, 05:16 AM
does anyone remember that old show "Tales From The Dark Side"? that used to scare me alot. when I was little.
Hate_Breeder
02-01-2005, 06:31 AM
The Mothman Prophecies wasnt even a real "horror" movie was it? :confused:
The Mothman
02-01-2005, 07:20 AM
technically it was. It wasn't bloody or like any other typical horror film, but it was scary as hell.
Angra
02-01-2005, 07:46 AM
I didnīt find "Mothman prophecies" scary at all?:confused:
I must be a hard ass...:cool:
taylorsmommy
02-01-2005, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by Angra
I didnīt find "Mothman prophecies" scary at all?:confused:
I must be a hard ass...:cool:
I didn't find it scary either, Angra.
Angra
02-01-2005, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by taylorsmommy
I didn't find it scary either, Angra.
Then you must be a hard ass too.
So.....How does it feel? :cool: L
Vodstok
02-01-2005, 08:26 AM
go here:
http://scaredyet.net/movies/exorc.aspx
It explains why you dont have to be religious to find the exorcist scary. i am an athiest, i have never been at all religious, and the movie scares the shit out of me.
Exorcist, night of the living dead, and alien all tie for me.
taylorsmommy
02-01-2005, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Angra
Then you must be a hard ass too.
So.....How does it feel? :cool: L
There's still only one movie that absolutely scares the shit out of me. When I watch the new horror movies coming out, I don't get scared at all. Not even a little adrenalin rush. It's pretty disappointing, actually. I keep waiting for that movie that'll come along and make me feel like The Exorcist did, like turning every light in the house on, sleeping with the lights on, etc.
Angra
02-01-2005, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by taylorsmommy
There's still only one movie that absolutely scares the shit out of me. When I watch the new horror movies coming out, I don't get scared at all. Not even a little adrenalin rush. It's pretty disappointing, actually. I keep waiting for that movie that'll come along and make me feel like The Exorcist did, like turning every light in the house on, sleeping with the lights on, etc.
That will probably never happen... :( WUAAAAAAAAAH!!!:(
Iīm setteling with movies that can make the hair on my neck to rise. Those are hard enough to find. Looking for movies that will freak me out is a total waste of time. Iīm too old and hardened. :(
Vodstok
02-01-2005, 08:45 AM
These days i settle for those that have good elements, or can at least make me cringe.
Audition made me cringe. I can take a decent amount of pain, but it think i draw the line WAY the fuck before getting my foot cut off with wire.
I would rather not lap up someone else's puke either.
Angra
02-01-2005, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
These days i settle for those that have good elements, or can at least make me cringe.
Audition made me cringe. I can take a decent amount of pain, but it think i draw the line WAY the fuck before getting my foot cut off with wire.
LMAO.
No, she wasnīt even THAT good looking.
:cool:
taylorsmommy
02-01-2005, 08:52 AM
I haven't even seen any lately that make the hair on my neck rise or made me cringe!! Geez, maybe I have become a hard-ass!!:D
Angra
02-01-2005, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by taylorsmommy
I haven't even seen any lately that make the hair on my neck rise or made me cringe!! Geez, maybe I have become a hard-ass!!:D
Only Japanese movies has done that to me lately...... But just a few out of around 30. :( :mad:
urgeok
02-01-2005, 10:15 AM
i thought The Eye and Ju-on had creepy moments .. but not scary
Angra
02-01-2005, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
i thought The Eye and Ju-on had creepy moments .. but not scary
Thatīs exactly what iīm talking about. Creepy moments.
thatīs what you hope to get out of a horror movie when you get older.... Itīs kinda sad, isnīt it? :(
When you finaly get old enough to enjoy horror movies, you canīt get scared anymore...... And then you die..:rolleyes:
Vodstok
02-01-2005, 11:17 AM
They need to start wiring chairs in movie theaters again. if i had 100 volts burst into my ass every time the dead chick in the grduge started making that burping noise, im pretty sure i would have been scared.
Angra
02-01-2005, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
They need to start wiring chairs in movie theaters again. if i had 100 volts burst into my ass every time the dead chick in the grduge started making that burping noise, im pretty sure i would have been scared.
Okay. I actually thought that was pretty creepy in the original Ju-on movies.
But then let me ask you this. Wich scene in a movie has given you the creeps? What do you find Creepy?
It obviously isnīt the same as me. :)
Letīs hear!
I too thought Ju-On was very good. creepy lady, spooky boy and awesome sound effects can give me more chills than a slasher film with a bunch of predictable pop outs. i also was more interested in the ju-on plot as well. Seeing Ju-On made me want to see the Grudge now.
urgeok
02-01-2005, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Angra
Thatīs exactly what iīm talking about. Creepy moments.
thatīs what you hope to get out of a horror movie when you get older.... Itīs kinda sad, isnīt it? :(
When you finaly get old enough to enjoy horror movies, you canīt get scared anymore...... And then you die..:rolleyes:
getting scared never was neccessary for me to enjoy a horror movie ... i like a creepy atmosphere and things that suprise me ..
and gratuitous nudity.
Vodstok
02-01-2005, 12:05 PM
Eventually it was just another fun movie for me, but the new Dawn of the Dead had me sweating the first time i saw it in the theater.
When it comes to zombies, i have had enough freaky-ass dreams that i expect to walk out of the theater and see people running screaming from them, so that helps the movie have a lot of impact.
Angra
02-01-2005, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by urgeok
getting scared never was neccessary for me to enjoy a horror movie ... i like a creepy atmosphere and things that suprise me ..
and gratuitous nudity.
Creepy atmosphere, HELL YES!!! But for me, a creepy atmosphere isnīt enough to hold up a horror movie ("Session 9" is a perfect example of that). Itīs like a bass in a song. Without it the rest will be shit.
But what will you call the scene in Ju-on where the ghost comes crawling down the stairs? Itīs not just creepy atmosphere itīs..... Just plain creepy, i think. And stuff like that also has to be there for it to be a good creepy horror movie. Without it i will be dissapointed no matter what happens. Thatīs for sure.
I know it sounds kinda harsh, but i really love to be creeped out! ;)
bwind22
02-01-2005, 12:52 PM
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (original)
As for the newer stuff, I liked the new DotD, it was pretty intese all the way through. (Especially the first part where suburbia is in shambles.)
The first part of Jeepers Creepers was headed in the right direction.
I liked the scene where the guy in 28 Days Later walks out of the hospital into the deserted streets and city. That was pretty eerie.
TCM takes the cake though with its gritty realism and brutal nature. Last House on the Left isnt far behind... Very disturbing.
Angra
02-01-2005, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Eventually it was just another fun movie for me, but the new Dawn of the Dead had me sweating the first time i saw it in the theater.
When it comes to zombies, i have had enough freaky-ass dreams that i expect to walk out of the theater and see people running screaming from them, so that helps the movie have a lot of impact.
I must admit that was exciting. But i didnīt find it as exciting as "Saw". But non of those two movies creeped me out...:rolleyes:
EXTR3MIST
02-01-2005, 01:14 PM
The Blair Witch Project.
Come on then, you bastards.
Angra
02-01-2005, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
The Blair Witch Project.
Come on then, you bastards.
Yes, yes, YES!!! That snotty nose will haunt me forever in my dreams. :D LOL
EXTR3MIST
02-01-2005, 01:25 PM
Good point - that scene is now a classic: who would have thought a simple straight-to-camera desperate, doomed outpouring of terror would have proved so effective?
The Mothman
02-02-2005, 05:26 AM
I dunno guys. I didnt find halloween or the excorcist that scary either, but something about it being a true story and all scared the shit out of me. plus there was something about the music that just got to me.
The Mothman
02-02-2005, 05:28 AM
however dawn of the dead was EXCELLENT as well. i liked it when they cut the zombies legs off with the chainsaw lol. the end pissed me off tho.
The_Return
02-02-2005, 03:54 PM
The first time I saw it, Mothman left me fairly creeped out, I must admit. Now, I dont find it scary...but it is a great movie!
Im ot sure if he was serious, but I must agree with Extr3mist, Blair Witch is the only movie that ever scared me. Just the tension near the end, most of the movie was dull as a rock, but the last 15-20 minutes scared me shitless.
Angra
02-02-2005, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by The_Return
The first time I saw it, Mothman left me fairly creeped out, I must admit. Now, I dont find it scary...but it is a great movie!
Im ot sure if he was serious, but I must agree with Extr3mist, Blair Witch is the only movie that ever scared me. Just the tension near the end, most of the movie was dull as a rock, but the last 15-20 minutes scared me shitless.
Crybaby.....;)
:rolleyes:
:cool:
The_Return
02-02-2005, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Angra
Crybaby.....;)
:rolleyes:
:cool:
Ive yet to see Ju-On, so I cant comment on that....but you found Salem's Lot scary, and you call me a crybaby? It was a pretty kool movie, but scary? Lololol. Unless you mean the remake, I havnt seen it yet, but I cant imagine it'd be any more scary:rolleyes:
:D
Angra
02-02-2005, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by The_Return
Ive yet to see Ju-On, so I cant comment on that....but you found Salem's Lot scary, and you call me a crybaby? It was a pretty kool movie, but scary? Lololol. Unless you mean the remake, I havnt seen it yet, but I cant imagine it'd be any more scary:rolleyes:
:D
Hmmm......
The remake of "Salems Lot" is just awfull. :mad:
But can you honestly say that you didnīt find the window scenes in "Salems Lot" creepy????:confused:
The_Return
02-02-2005, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Angra
Hmmm......
The remake of "Salems Lot" is just awfull. :mad:
But can you honestly say that you didnīt find the window scenes in "Salems Lot" creepy????:confused:
I can honestly say I chuckled at them.
Angra
02-02-2005, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by The_Return
I can honestly say I chuckled at them.
Well, FUCK YOU THEN!!
That movie haunted me for years...:mad:
The_Return
02-02-2005, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Angra
Well, FUCK YOU THEN!!
That movie haunted me for years...:mad:
How old were you 1st saw it? I saw it this summer, so that would make me either 13 or 14, not sure when I saw it...
Angra
02-02-2005, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by The_Return
How old were you 1st saw it? I saw it this summer, so that would make me either 13 or 14, not sure when I saw it...
I was 13. Uuuuuhh, Mufasa!!! :)
The_Return
02-02-2005, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Angra
I was 13. Uuuuuhh, Mufasa!!! :)
Wimp;)
The Mothman
02-03-2005, 06:38 AM
believe it or not, blaur witch 2 was actually not such a bad movie. It wasnt like the first one, you know, black and white and raw footage, but it was kinda creepy,.
Angra
02-03-2005, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by The Mothman
believe it or not, blaur witch 2 was actually not such a bad movie. It wasnt like the first one, you know, black and white and raw footage, but it was kinda creepy,.
Yeah, that movie was ok. Good thing they didnīt try to make it exactly like the first one. :cool:
MrShape
02-03-2005, 10:02 AM
I've said this before, but the scariest movie I've ever seen was that Trekkies documentary. Absolutely horrifying,:eek:
Vodstok
02-03-2005, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by MrShape
I've said this before, but the scariest movie I've ever seen was that Trekkies documentary. Absolutely horrifying,:eek: I have seen that kind of thing up close... there was a congregation of trekkies at the local mall about 9 years ago. Fat nerds in klingon outfits. Skinny nerds in Vulcan outfits... And the dork i went to the mall with staring at them dreamily and asking how he could join starfleet academy.
I swear, if i hadnt met the girl who actually claimed to have fucked him, i would have bet money he would have died a 72 year old virgin....
urgeok
02-03-2005, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
I have seen that kind of thing up close... there was a congregation of trekkies at the local mall about 9 years ago. Fat nerds in klingon outfits. Skinny nerds in Vulcan outfits... And the dork i went to the mall with staring at them dreamily and asking how he could join starfleet academy.
I swear, if i hadnt met the girl who actually claimed to have fucked him, i would have bet money he would have died a 72 year old virgin....
sounds like he got fucked before she came along ...
the day his brain was wired for business...
Vodstok
02-03-2005, 10:32 AM
Oh god, he was easily the most pathetic loser i have met. Total momma's boy. He actually believed her when she explained to him that the silicone bra inserts she had (obviously to make her b-cups look like c-cups) were "for a medical reason"......
Boy did he get upset and flustered when i suggested that maybe she just wants to make her tits look bigger and didnt want to tell him.... Pretty sad reaction for a 19 year old....
urgeok
02-03-2005, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Oh god, he was easily the most pathetic loser i have met. Total momma's boy. He actually believed her when she explained to him that the silicone bra inserts she had (obviously to make her b-cups look like c-cups) were "for a medical reason"......
Boy did he get upset and flustered when i suggested that maybe she just wants to make her tits look bigger and didnt want to tell him.... Pretty sad reaction for a 19 year old....
no where near as sad as wanting to join starfleet
EXTR3MIST
02-03-2005, 01:15 PM
Blair Witch is the only movie that ever scared me. Just the tension near the end, most of the movie was dull as a rock, but the last 15-20 minutes scared me shitless.
I can't agree about most of it being dull (if it was peppered with the usual action bits, the movie would be totally different and not built up to such a shattering ending - remember, this is a project and not an adventure), but yes the final scenes with Josh gone and the discovery of the old house are terrifying.
urgeok
02-03-2005, 01:42 PM
the house is exactly where the film failed for me (with the exception of the final seconds in the cellar which were effective)
all i could think of when they were running up and down the stairs .. is that they (as filmmakers) found an old house .. so they decided to use it as a cool place to film ..and just shot footage of the kids running around in it.
It took me right out of the movie.
EXTR3MIST
02-03-2005, 01:48 PM
Sounds like you took yourself out of it - the house discovery was a new element to the proceedings (most of the scary bits being centred around the tent), and those fleeting glimpses of (childrens?) handprints were rather unnerving.
Also, it was a claustrophobic scene - we briefly saw the dimly-lit exterior, but those running-up-and-down-stairs sequences (shifting between the two cameras) didn't give much away as to what was that house and what was in it...
urgeok
02-03-2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
Sounds like you took yourself out of it -
nope !
MrShape
02-04-2005, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Vodstok
I have seen that kind of thing up close... there was a congregation of trekkies at the local mall about 9 years ago. Fat nerds in klingon outfits. Skinny nerds in Vulcan outfits... And the dork i went to the mall with staring at them dreamily and asking how he could join starfleet academy.
I swear, if i hadnt met the girl who actually claimed to have fucked him, i would have bet money he would have died a 72 year old virgin....
I saw Star Trek: Genreations at the theater and there were a bunch of Trekkies wandering around in full ST garb scanning people with their fake tricorders. I mean, I like ST myself, but it's just a show, ferfucksake. I've been to one ST convention,and some of these people have not seen the sun since that show premired in the 1960s.
And you don't know horror until you've heard the love song from Titanic sung in Klingon.
The Mothman
02-05-2005, 08:17 AM
please tell me ju-on is dubbed? I cant possibly be scared while reading subtitles.
I got evil-dead II yesterday:D
ClassicHorror
02-06-2005, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
I can't agree about most of it being dull (if it was peppered with the usual action bits, the movie would be totally different and not built up to such a shattering ending - remember, this is a project and not an adventure), but yes the final scenes with Josh gone and the discovery of the old house are terrifying.
I hate it when people say Blair Witch 2 is a sequel to Blair Witch Project...BWP doesn't have a sequel!!!! Blair Witch on the other hand does....two separate movies. Also BWP is one of the most original films, I say suck my balls to those who say CGI is awesome, and films that have subtitles or are black and white suck. Sorry I was rambling again.
Blair Witch Project is a great film, and this is coming from someone who owns over 5,000 horror films...but then again different strokes for different folks....
P.S. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything.
Angra
02-06-2005, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by ClassicHorror
I hate it when people say Blair Witch 2 is a sequel to Blair Witch Project...BWP doesn't have a sequel!!!! Blair Witch on the other hand does....two separate movies. Also BWP is one of the most original films, I say suck my balls to those who say CGI is awesome, and films that have subtitles or are black and white suck. Sorry I was rambling again.
Blair Witch Project is a great film, and this is coming from someone who owns over 5,000 horror films...but then again different strokes for different folks....
P.S. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything.
As far as i can see on IMDB there is no movie named just "Blair witch"? So if it isnīt "Blair witch project" wich movie is it then?:confused:
Angra
02-06-2005, 11:17 AM
By the way, has anybody seen the short movie called
"The Blair Bitch Project starring Linda Blair"?
Is it funny?
The Mothman
02-06-2005, 11:34 AM
hate it when people say Blair Witch 2 is a sequel to Blair Witch Project...BWP doesn't have a sequel!!!!
then why can you by the blair witch project and blair witch two together in a pack?
ItsAlive75
02-06-2005, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by The Mothman
then why can you by the blair witch project and blair witch two together in a pack?
Because people wanna make money.
Blair Witch Project can't have a sequel because it's a totally different kind of hooror movie then Book of Shadows. It was a fake documentary, BOS was a bullshit movie that tried to play off the original by inserting the name and plot into it so people would go see it and ultimately go home disappointed (or laughing their asses off).
knife_fight
02-06-2005, 02:08 PM
I think people who watch the dubbed version of foreign movies (like Ju-On) should be shot. Once you start a movie with subtitles, and you start reading it, you get used to it and it gets to the point where you don't even notice it anymore. But to me, you could probly watch Ju-On without the dubs or the subs and still be creeped out by it (and be able to follow the plot, kinda). There's not a lot of excessive dialogue.
Ju-On is great. It honestly made me uncomfortable. But the Exorcist is the scariest movie ever made, to me.
ItsAlive75
02-06-2005, 02:31 PM
Yeah, first time I saw The Exorcist I had nightmares for a couple days. Then I saw the newer version with the staircase scene and had nightmares for a couple more days.
Tough times...
ClassicHorror
02-06-2005, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Because people wanna make money.
Blair Witch Project can't have a sequel because it's a totally different kind of hooror movie then Book of Shadows. It was a fake documentary, BOS was a bullshit movie that tried to play off the original by inserting the name and plot into it so people would go see it and ultimately go home disappointed (or laughing their asses off).
In uncontrollable rage I said things that I didn't mean to say. I say Blair Witch 2 isn't a sequel because they are two extremely different films....thinking them as films of the same series really pisses me off.
slasherman
02-07-2005, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by ClassicHorror
I hate it when people say Blair Witch 2 is a sequel to Blair Witch Project...BWP doesn't have a sequel!!!! .
sorry but it is..! !!!
ClassicHorror
02-07-2005, 04:05 AM
Yes but I don't consider them as one.
slasherman
02-07-2005, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by ClassicHorror
Yes but I don't consider them as one.
hmmm wonder if there will be a number 3 ?
Angra
02-07-2005, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by slasherman
hmmm wonder if there will be a number 3 ?
Who gives a rats ass?:confused: :mad:
slasherman
02-08-2005, 03:49 AM
Originally posted by Angra
Who gives a rats ass?:confused: :mad:
I :D
EXTR3MIST
02-08-2005, 12:35 PM
Hopefully no more BWP sequels, though no amount would cheapen the impact of the original.
ItsAlive75
02-08-2005, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
Hopefully no more BWP sequels, though no amount would cheapen the impact of the original.
Unless they did it in space...
Or they made a versus movie, like Blair Witch vs The Critters
or Blair Witch vs Leprechaun
Angra
02-08-2005, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Unless they did it in space...
Or they made a versus movie, like Blair Witch vs The Critters
or Blair Witch vs Leprechaun
LMAO.:p
Good one!
But how about something even more extreme such as:
Blair witch vs Bambi
Blair witch vs Linda Blair
Etc.
:cool:
slasherman
02-09-2005, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Leprechaun
:mad: pure shit !
the meat wagon
02-09-2005, 09:54 AM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0783227507.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
The Mothman
02-09-2005, 12:30 PM
please tell me thats the name of the movie that scared you the most, otherwise its pointless, off topic, SPAM!
I only had one movie scare me and that was when I was 5 or 6 years old and that was Frankenstein. Unfortunately, after my Mom explained the whole make-up and mask thing to me, I haven't been able to find a movie that scared me in the least. I honestly wish I could. I saw The Exorcist when it was originally released at the age of (thinking, thinking) 10 and it didn't scare me then, although it scared the living shit out of my Mom and my friends that went with me.
IMO, the movies that had the biggest/greatest impact on audiences when ORIGINALLY released, would be The Exorcist (Still listed as the scariest horror movie of all time) and Jaws. The Exorcist had one hell of an impact on audiences the globe over. People that never jumped at horror films were scared shitless by this movie... running out of theaters, puking, freaking out in the theaters, etc... Also, when Jaws was released, and while not a full blown horror movie, turned thousands of beach combers and swimmers into chickenshits that wouldn't go into the ocean for a million bucks! I know several people that wouldn't go into a swimming pool at night or even go near a pond because of the mind-fuck the movie gave them.