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tom-tom
01-17-2005, 01:38 AM
Although this is a horror site and most of Quentin Tarantino's work is not horror, i'm interested to know what you guys think is his best work...
For me, it is hard to pick the best in his work becuase they're all so fucking cool! If i had to choose i'd say Pulp Fiction - because of the way it is wrote ( similar to his style in Resivior Dogs )and just what a cool movie it is - and From Dusk Till Dawn - 'Come on pussy lovers'.
ShankS
01-17-2005, 01:47 AM
Resivior Dogs
have you watched the extras on the Dogs Special Edition DVD ...theres a great interview.
tom-tom
01-17-2005, 02:40 AM
Yeah, the interview was cool.
The_Return
01-17-2005, 03:03 AM
Ive only seen Kill Bill [Both Parts] and it was AMAZING I loved it.
I saw part of Pulp Fiction, but just couldnt get it to it. I might have to rent it again tho....
urgeok
01-17-2005, 04:34 AM
Res Dogs was my favorite with JAckie Brown as a close second .... until I saw Kill Bill (1 & 2)
They blew everything else out of the water.
I never cared for Pulp Fiction .. it was just a flashier Res Dogs to me...
ShankS
01-17-2005, 04:56 AM
Jackie Brown was a good film too. I was always meaning to watch it for about 5 or 6 years lol, never got round to it, until I bought the QT Special Edition boxset, came with Dogs, Jackie and Pulp Fiction.
anyone got any info on what he's upto, with regards to new films?
anything gona be released this year?
urgeok
01-17-2005, 05:02 AM
i read he's taking Kill Bill 1 and 2 and re-editing them into a new single movie.. with extra footage and stuff ... to make it a completely different film ..
I hope thats wrong ...
ShankS
01-17-2005, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
i read he's taking Kill Bill 1 and 2 and re-editing them into a new single movie.. with extra footage and stuff ... to make it a completely different film ..
I hope thats wrong ...
hmmm that'll be a bloody long film then 4 or 5 hours with extra footage, unless he edits out loads of the original stuff, which would be pointless as it would mess up the film.
urgeok
01-17-2005, 05:07 AM
thats what i'm sayin ..
best leave it alone and go on to exploit another era of filmmaking ..
he should do a legit Samurai pic ...
Vodstok
01-17-2005, 07:20 AM
I get labeled an evil person for this all the time, but i think ol Qt is overrated. Granted, Pulp Fiction was a eork of genius, and i really Like True Romance, but most of his stuff is just over the top to me, to the point that i dont find it enjoyable.
I knwo a lot of people place a great deal of value on the dialogue in his movies, and i think that is why i am at odds with everyone else so much. i think dialogue should do it's best to push the plot foward, with no frame or word wasted. Qt does what a lot of indie film makers do:
Tons of dialogue that is completely extraneous to the plot. Did the "Like a virgin" conversation have any bearing on the rest of the movie in resevoir dogs? if it did, i missed that part.
i do appreciate that his love of pulp culture and use of it in his movies has ironically placed him in the same position of the people he admires, but that just means im giving credit where it is due. im sntill not much of a fan.
Originally posted by Vodstok
Tons of dialogue that is completely extraneous to the plot. Did the "Like a virgin" conversation have any bearing on the rest of the movie in resevoir dogs? if it did, i missed that part.
I think his use of dialogue is what makes his movies stand out. Such as this now classic bit of conversation.
Vincent: Want some bacon?
Jules: No man, I don't eat pork.
Vincent: Are you Jewish?
Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's all.
Vincent: Why not?
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got enough sense enough to disregard its own faeces.
Vincent: How about a dog? Dogs eats its own feces.
Jules: I don't eat dog either.
Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules: Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charmin' motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?
urgeok
01-17-2005, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
I get labeled an evil person for this all the time, but i think ol Qt is overrated. Granted, Pulp Fiction was a eork of genius, and i really Like True Romance, but most of his stuff is just over the top to me, to the point that i dont find it enjoyable.
I knwo a lot of people place a great deal of value on the dialogue in his movies, and i think that is why i am at odds with everyone else so much. i think dialogue should do it's best to push the plot foward, with no frame or word wasted. Qt does what a lot of indie film makers do:
Tons of dialogue that is completely extraneous to the plot. Did the "Like a virgin" conversation have any bearing on the rest of the movie in resevoir dogs? if it did, i missed that part.
i do appreciate that his love of pulp culture and use of it in his movies has ironically placed him in the same position of the people he admires, but that just means im giving credit where it is due. im sntill not much of a fan.
I am all about the dialogue .. dialogue is the fastest way to build a character .. the more interesting the character, the more I care about them and that is my emotional buy in. Without it all you have is a dime a dozen action film.
Tarantino has a brilliant ear and knows how to duplicate the feel of dimestore novel cheezy dialogue and stand it on its ear.
My problem with Pulp fiction is that he did it too much too soon after Reseviour Dogs.
Thats what made Dogs brilliant ... the breakfast table meeting with gangsters discussing the credibility of Madonna ...
He used that same hook (gansters talking way above themselves)
with Pulp Fiction and it turned me off (the Mcdonalds in Paris conversation) - it seemed like he just wanted to repeat the formula. That bothered me plus I didnt like the choices in the actors at that time (Bruce Willis and the french girl) .
I got the feeling that he was aiming too high, too slick in that film.
He got back to basics with the solid JAckie Brown, then went completely balls out with the Kill Bills.
If anything, I think he's still underrated ... he's a very entheusiastic genius.
From what I've seen of him in interviews etc ... he'd drive me fucking nuts in person, but he's a brilliant craftsman with great vision
Vodstok
01-17-2005, 10:00 AM
Good points, guys. But i still dont like him. I RESPECT his work, but i dont care for most of it.
But then again, the only Japanese horro rmovie i like so far is Audition, and i dont like Italian horror. Thought Suspiria was a waste of time.
I dare to be different. i am different and it annoys people, as opposed to being different JUST to annoy people.
ShankS
01-17-2005, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by newb
I think his use of dialogue is what makes his movies stand out. Such as this now classic bit of conversation.
Vincent: Want some bacon?
Jules: No man, I don't eat pork.
Vincent: Are you Jewish?
Jules: Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's all.
Vincent: Why not?
Jules: Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood.
Jules: Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker. Pigs sleep and root in shit. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eat nothin' that ain't got enough sense enough to disregard its own faeces.
Vincent: How about a dog? Dogs eats its own feces.
Jules: I don't eat dog either.
Vincent: Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way.
Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules: Well we'd have to be talkin' about one charmin' motherfuckin' pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times more charmin' than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm sayin'?
that was an awesome convo... one day I'm gona get round to ripping the entire film on audio cd just for that sort of dialogue, just so I can listen to it in the car, on long journeys.
EXTR3MIST
01-17-2005, 01:20 PM
You know what's on my mind right now?
It ain't the coffee in my kitchen.
It's the dead nigger. In my garage.
last bad move
01-17-2005, 03:12 PM
its the one that says bad mother fucker
but my fav work by him has to be res dogs and True Romance
ShankS
01-17-2005, 03:17 PM
;)
The STE
01-17-2005, 03:24 PM
I haven't seen Jackie Brown, but everything else he's written/directed (and one movie he only wrote) made my top 100 list
EXTR3MIST
01-17-2005, 03:24 PM
Hmmm.
Suddenly my Bad Mother Fucker don't seem so cool.
Damn Viz.
My favorite would have to be From Dusk till Dawn. I hate to admit it, but I have yet to see Kill Bill Vol 1 or 2. I went to buy it Friday and it was out. I'll try again another time.
urgeok
01-17-2005, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Good points, guys. But i still dont like him. I RESPECT his work, but i dont care for most of it.
But then again, the only Japanese horro rmovie i like so far is Audition, and i dont like Italian horror. Thought Suspiria was a waste of time.
I dare to be different. i am different and it annoys people, as opposed to being different JUST to annoy people.
actually brother ... you are daring NOT to be different ! :)
sounds like you just want the straight and narrow !
DraculaInDallas
01-17-2005, 11:05 PM
1. Resevoir Dogs
2. Pulp Fiction
" Shiiiiiiiiiiiiit negro, that's all you had to say" ;)
ShankS
01-18-2005, 12:18 AM
"With the exception of Eddie and myself, whom you already know, we're going to be using aliases on this job. Under no circumstances do I want any one of you to relate to each other by your Christian names, and I don't want any talk about yourself personally. That includes where you been, your wife's name, where you might've done time, or maybe a bank you robbed in St. Petersburg. All I want you guys to talk about, if you have to, is what you're going to do. That should do it. Here are your names..."
"Mr. Brown, Mr. White, Mr. Blonde, Mr. Blue, Mr. Orange, and Mr. Pink."
".....................Why am I Mr. Pink?"
"Cause you're a faggot, ok?"
".....................How about if I'm Mr. Purple? That sounds good to me, I'll be Mr. Purple."
"You're not Mr. Purple. Some guy on some other job is Mr. Purple. You're Mr. Pink!"
"Who cares what your name is?"
".....................Yeah that's easy for you to say, you're Mr. White, you have a cool sounding name. Alright look if it's no big deal to be Mr. Pink, do you wanna trade?"
"Hardy fuckin' har."
Vodstok
01-18-2005, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
actually brother ... you are daring NOT to be different ! :)
sounds like you just want the straight and narrow !
Bah! i think Not. I dislike him for much different reasons from the masses....
urgeok
01-18-2005, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by Vodstok
Bah! i think Not. I dislike him for much different reasons from the masses....
i didnt mean just Tarantino .. but for the Italian/Japanese angle as well.
I'm thinking that you arent a great fan of style over substance .. which is cool.. to each his own ... I can enjoy both ... but i really dig stylish films.
I see you as a real Lucas fan ..cut and dried .. to the point ...very linear
I'm not saying thats a bad thing .. lots of different styles out there ...
(goddamn nerds .. cant appreciate art)
oops, did i say that out loud ??!!
:D :D
Vodstok
01-18-2005, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
i didnt mean just Tarantino .. but for the Italian/Japanese angle as well.
I'm thinking that you arent a great fan of style over substance .. which is cool.. to each his own ... I can enjoy both ... but i really dig stylish films.
I see you as a real Lucas fan ..cut and dried .. to the point ...very linear
I'm not saying thats a bad thing .. lots of different styles out there ...
(goddamn nerds .. cant appreciate art)
oops, did i say that out loud ??!!
:D :D Good call. i like the old star wars and indiana jones movies quite a bit.
I am a bigger Jim Cameron/Ridley Scott fan than anyone else, though.
Give me some credit, at least im not a Bruckheimer/Bay kind of guy. Oh wait, those are also style over substance. You hit the nail on the head with that one.
urgeok
01-18-2005, 05:06 AM
cameraon and scott make sense too (with the exception of scotts 'Legend') they are both very straight ahead filmmakers .. constant action - foreward movement.
(you probably like Friedkin as well ... as do I)
I like them as well, and can appreciate the pace no nonsense filmmaking ... but i really enjoy the flipside too.
I like a film that makes me sit up and go Woah ! at the action ... but i also like the trippy films that make me sit back and go woooooooooaaaaaahhhhhhh at the funkiness too.
Vodstok
01-18-2005, 05:23 AM
I like trippy, sometimes. I love a lot of terry gilliam's work, especially 12 monkeys. Time bandits messed with my head as a kid. And everything Monty Python did was genius. The Life of Brian and The Holy Grail have two of the best "what the fuck?" endings ever.
tje only thing that freidkin did that i am aware that i have seen was the exorcist, but his commentary kind of destroyed him as a person for me. he is as dry as burnt toast.
I also like the nifty, neato little twisters like Fight Club, The Usual Suspects...
I really wanted to lie Memento, but it tried way too hard and not enough happened. Plus, you find out at the end that the main character is an asshole who got mad at his partner and convinced himself that he was the bad guy so he could kill him without guilt....
Although, miss "Trinity" played an AWESOME bitch in it.
Originally posted by Vodstok
tje only thing that freidkin did that i am aware that i have seen was the exorcist, but his commentary kind of destroyed him as a person for me. he is as dry as burnt toast.
The French Connection
Sorcerer
To Live and Die in L.A.
Vodstok
01-18-2005, 05:34 AM
Oddly, i have never seen any of those. Weird.
urgeok
01-18-2005, 05:56 AM
To Live and Die in LA is definately your kind of film Vod ..
Vodstok
01-18-2005, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by urgeok
To Live and Die in LA is definately your kind of film Vod .. I looked it up on IMDB, sounds interesting. i will have to check it out.
Iniquity
01-18-2005, 06:14 AM
Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Natural Born Killers, Kill Bill 1&2
immortalem
01-18-2005, 10:34 AM
Resevoir Dogs, and Kill Bill 1 are my favorite Quentin Tarantino films.
bitch_of_d_west
01-18-2005, 10:45 AM
KILL BILL WAS D BEST TARTARINO FILM
advice for the girls
my prerogative - bRITNEY sPEARS
People can take everything away from you
But they can never take away your truth
But the question is..
Can you handle mine?
They say I'm crazy
I really don't care
That's my prerogative
They say I'm nasty
But I don't give a damn
Getting boys is how I live
Some ask me questions
Why am I so real?
But they don't understand me
I really don't know the deal
About my sister
Trying hard to make it right
Not long ago before I won this fight
Everybody's talkin' all this stuff about me
Why don't they just let me live? (tell me why)
I don't need permission
Make my own decisions (oh)
That's my prerogative
That's my prerogative
[It's my prerogative]
Its the way that I wanna live
[It's my prerogative]
They can't tell me what to do...
Don't get me wrong
I'm really not souped
Ego trips is not my thing
All these strange relationships
It really gets me down
See nothing wrong
Spread myself around
Everybody's talkin' all this stuff about me
Why don't they just let me live? (tell me why)
I don't need permission
Make my own decisions (oh)
That's my prerogative
That's my prerogative
Everybody's talkin' all this stuff about me
Why don't they just let me live? (tell me why)
I don't need permission
Make my own decisions (oh)
That's my prerogative
That's my prerogative
Its the way that I wanna live
[It's my prerogative]
They can't tell me what to do...
Why can't I live my life?
Without all of the things that people say?
Ohh...
[Shout]
Everybody's talkin' all this stuff about me
Why don't they just let me live? (tell me why)
I don't need permission
Make my own decisions (oh)
That's my prerogative
(They Say I'm crazy) Everybody's talkin' all this stuff about me
Why don't they just let me live? (tell me why)
(they say I'm nasty)I don't need permission
Make my own decisions
(ahhh)That's my prerogative
[That's my prerogative]
phantomstranger
01-18-2005, 01:11 PM
Kill Bill Vlms 1 and 2
From Dusk till dawn
Pulp Fiction
nine9
01-18-2005, 04:29 PM
I pretty much like anything he does. I think Resevoir Dogs was my favorite though. :)